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ENCOR - LISP and VXLAN 

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In this video, we explore LISP and VXLAN, two protocols that are at the core of SD Fabric operation!
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@mistereman345
@mistereman345 Год назад
Thank you for this video. It's one of the simplest and clearest explanations of LISP that I've been able to find.
@techevangelist8373
@techevangelist8373 3 года назад
Man you are amazing...good content..i follow you in CBT for SDWaN..Sorry I missed to join live. I will target next week..I feel that a you got a Jeremy inside...BTW, you sounds like one of my colleagues from PA lol
@jazzit1137
@jazzit1137 3 года назад
Earlier jeremy was my favourite then i saw Jeffa videos this man is just from another dimension
@rudyjelen1534
@rudyjelen1534 Год назад
Thank you very much for this really great explanation. I have a question: what if our LISP domain is very large and is connected via different routers to other various non-LISP domains thru different routers ? This would mean that we essentialy would end with a lot of "defaoult" routes. MS/MR servers should help here I guess.
@nonsense6791
@nonsense6791 3 года назад
this one hour content is pretty much equivalent to one week training class, as long as you know the basic concept.
@melvinoxl3589
@melvinoxl3589 2 года назад
I haven't found any video on RU-vid that best explains LISP than this. Thanks so much
@brandonunger1689
@brandonunger1689 Год назад
agreed
@316nawaz
@316nawaz 3 года назад
Such a complex topic summarized and explained in very easy way. Thanks a lot.
@leniotsiou
@leniotsiou 4 месяца назад
This is great material, thank you! Studying for DCID/ DCCOR and there are very few videos out there designed for DCID/ DCCOR. Any ideas of a free platform for more vids on those exams? I know CBT Nuggets is top of the top, but was wondering if there is anything freely accessible you may know about? Cheers :)
@1manairband
@1manairband 16 дней назад
What if the provider has multiple PETR connections to service providers?
@rohannandargi2703
@rohannandargi2703 6 месяцев назад
LISP reduces routing table size in ISP field by searching R10 ( in our example) not subnet A attached to it. but to reach R10 loopback or /30 prefixes all in-path routers must know the path thus routes. how LISP reduce routing table size?
@dmitry3876
@dmitry3876 8 месяцев назад
What the router would do if there are many PxTRs and it gets a negative reply from MS/MR? Which PxTR he would choose to send a packet? It could be a lot of them, and they could lead to different AS, which leads to suboptimal routing. What's the trick?
@alejandrosisco2100
@alejandrosisco2100 3 года назад
Hello Jeff, thank you for this amazing vídeos, you really helped me out
@areebabbas2633
@areebabbas2633 10 месяцев назад
So we need tunnel to every ETR/ITR ? If MS don't have route then the router will sent packet to PETR, but how router get to know about appropriate PXTR??
@koptos
@koptos 3 года назад
Hi Kish, thank you for the great explanation. I was just wondering that LISP was created so Core routers could be a bit cheaper, as they do not need full routing table. But would MPLS do the same? Meaning if the Core router will only switch label it didn't have to have the full routing table. So I do not understand what is the advantage of LISP vs MPLS in this case.
@mmmm-gs4mc
@mmmm-gs4mc 2 года назад
no the Site to Site(VPN Tunnels) replaced the MPLS old day internet was not fast enough they have to use MPLS
@hafidd3
@hafidd3 2 года назад
I like when you see your notes from time to time .. that what real life is .. we're not machines ... and we shall not hide that ..👍👍👏👏
@dgilvani
@dgilvani 3 года назад
800,000 routes around there somewhere
@ssse3123
@ssse3123 3 года назад
yes. close to million, not billion
@roybrooks2684
@roybrooks2684 Год назад
Kish. You have so much deep understanding regarding how overlay and underlay technology works. I believe this is what SD in about
@angelofarina8356
@angelofarina8356 3 года назад
Thank you so much! This video is super clear and very detailed! Cheers!
@Shivamkhandelwal
@Shivamkhandelwal 3 года назад
Very well explained..such a great flow to explain such a complex concept. Thank you.
@kabazulkifil158
@kabazulkifil158 3 года назад
Amazing content. Thanks Jeff for this. :)
@jcoeder
@jcoeder 3 года назад
What application and hardware do you use for your drawings?
@KishSquared
@KishSquared 3 года назад
I use Corel Painter for the chalkboard, but any art program would work fine. I have a Wacom tablet for my hardware, and I record with OBS and/or Streamlabs depending on whether it's a live stream or not. Thanks!
@GoonCity777
@GoonCity777 3 года назад
Amazing how this is like dmvpn with its registering/reply for different mappings. Same for MS which is configured statically like NHS & RP
@shmulick14
@shmulick14 3 года назад
Amazing explanations. Keep it up!
@alexchamorro1884
@alexchamorro1884 3 года назад
gracias por el video , excelente explicación , saludos de Perú
@yamanjnade6073
@yamanjnade6073 2 года назад
Did anyone notice the camera not turning off every 30 min 😀
@gagandeepepsingh6976
@gagandeepepsingh6976 Год назад
Suppose i have 10 vlans on legacy switch and they want to communicate fabric envorinment where VM host are depolyed in one of vlans how this communication works ?
@KishSquared
@KishSquared Год назад
Each legacy VLAN will need to tie into a VXLAN ID. The VXLAN will carry that L2 traffic through the fabric to wherever it needs to go. We can think of VXLAN as a 'glue' that connects legacy VLANs to one another through the L3 domain. HTH!
@pakodasingh
@pakodasingh 3 года назад
Kish U are always the best
@zmikund865
@zmikund865 3 года назад
Wow, this is really cool!
@niatpacm.sacras9
@niatpacm.sacras9 2 года назад
Good tunneling mtu discussion as well.
@AbinMathewAbraham
@AbinMathewAbraham 3 года назад
Awesome content. One question: How does Lisp solve the traffic engineering requirements, which made ISPs to dis-aggregate the prefixes and thus resulted in larger routing tables?
@KishSquared
@KishSquared 3 года назад
LISP doesn't directly influence the global Internet routing table. Instead, it makes it so only certain SP routers need to store the entire table. By leveraging LISP, the edge SP routers will encapsulate traffic such that the core routers can have a much smaller routing table, only focusing on how to get to the other side of the domain. I hope that helps!
@AbinMathewAbraham
@AbinMathewAbraham 3 года назад
@@KishSquared ❤️❤️❤️
@llt86
@llt86 3 года назад
Amazing explanations! Many Thanks !!
@claudiuargeseanu1952
@claudiuargeseanu1952 11 месяцев назад
Hi, Kish, really good videos. I was wondering if you could help me with this: In Ciscopress' ENCOR guide, LISP routing architecture is explained as follows: "In traditional routing architectures, an endpoint IP address represents the endpoint’s identity and location. If the location of the endpoint changes, its IP address also changes. LISP separates IP addresses into endpoint identifiers (EIDs) and routing locators (RLOCs). This way, endpoints can roam from site to site, and the only thing that changes is their RLOC; the EID remains the same." I don't understand this. Assuming that in this context EID = Endpoint IP Address, how can the EID not change if the client roams from one RLOC to another? How can I client keep its IP if it moves from one subnet to another?
@nicktucker3437
@nicktucker3437 2 месяца назад
12:38 DMVPN was the ideal practical use case for tunnels prior to SDN I thought
@KishSquared
@KishSquared 2 месяца назад
@@nicktucker3437 I've only seen DMVPN used across WANs, not on campuses. Mostly in this context I was referring to PtP tunnels as well. SDNs make the quick creation and teardown of tunnels a trivial task.
@nicktucker3437
@nicktucker3437 2 месяца назад
@@KishSquared makes sense..haven't seen many campus networks bur Id preume they are more flat than WAN stuff, other times I've seen DMVPN is trying to replicate Frame Relay type stuff in labbing(not even sure we can still use ODR for such for autoconfig)
@piotrwikarski9401
@piotrwikarski9401 3 года назад
Thank you! Amazing content.
@brianschlener4066
@brianschlener4066 3 года назад
You mentioned misinformation regarding tunneling and MTU size. VTEPs can not fragment packets, that's explicit in the RFC and we've had issues with applications not working because the MTU wasn't adjusted. Yeah the tunnel comes up fine, but high level applications have issues. Otherwise great video, liked the LISP explanation
@KishSquared
@KishSquared 3 года назад
Thanks for the correction! Guess we should just set the MTU and be done with it, then. Will save everyone headaches that way.
@morganscott5588
@morganscott5588 2 года назад
​@@KishSquared Near as I can tell in my labbing thus far, if the packet is less than the set MTU on the tunnel, but greater than what the physical egress interface can accommodate with the additional headers, the egress interface will fragment even if the df-bit is set in the original ip header, because it's not set in the gre outer ip header. But I might be a little unclear what it all means in the big picture. Unless the df-bit is set, and unless I am misunderstanding, the packet is going to arrive at the destination fragmented in both cases, that is, if the packet is larger than the tunnel mtu the tunnel interface performs the fragmentation, and if it's smaller than the tunnel mtu but too big for the physical interface, the physical interface fragments, but in both cases, it's up to the receiving host to put it back together? and notify the sender to reduce packet size? So if I am drawing the correct conclusion, setting the tunnel MTU correctly is all about respecting the df-bit? Your challenge did lead to some insights not previously considered by me, thank you!!
@DillyDogSays
@DillyDogSays 2 года назад
Which Cisco node does LISP reside?
@patrickvanbennekom469
@patrickvanbennekom469 3 года назад
Thanks for this topic. What i was wondering, what is the "chalk-board program" called you are using? Looks nice ... :-)
@KishSquared
@KishSquared 3 года назад
Thanks for the comment! I use Corel Painter for the background, but any art program would suffice. I'm using OBS to record the screen while I write.
@patrickvanbennekom469
@patrickvanbennekom469 3 года назад
@@KishSquared Thanks for your reply. The chalk-board look and feel within the Corel Painter gives a nice old school touch. Very nice!! Can be that I like this, since I am also little bit begin to be older :-) Keep up this nice detailed video's. Like that very much!!
@musik847.1
@musik847.1 2 года назад
If a router already has the route does it still reach out to the MS/MR to verify it? If it doesn't I don't fully understand the benefit of LISP. What I am really asking is does it force essentially centralized routing by forcing all routers in the "LISP domain" to verify routes? I understand that it is used to not drop routes if the router doesn't know the route, but I thought the point of it with SD-Access is to be a more efficient form of routing.
@christopherdekonstrukt444
@christopherdekonstrukt444 Год назад
Had an overview studying for the 301 exam which I passed Friday. Moving onto 350-401 Encore exam. Creates a mapping between VXLAN and underlay IP addresses.
@nileshthombre6253
@nileshthombre6253 Год назад
finally LISP is easy !
@jonathanmoore8886
@jonathanmoore8886 3 года назад
How long is the Eid stored in an rloc cache before it's removed?
@KishSquared
@KishSquared 3 года назад
Good question! Entries are cleared after 24 hours of inactivity.
@ipstacks11
@ipstacks11 3 года назад
You talk as if LISP isn't designed to be Internet scalable. LISP is not only designed exactly for that, it adds features like active / active multi-homing, network virtualization and address mobility.
@arkadyka6777
@arkadyka6777 3 года назад
Thank you! You are awesome!
@croonos23
@croonos23 3 года назад
thanks Jeff for your help
@larryjeffryes6168
@larryjeffryes6168 3 года назад
We need a LISP plug-in living resident within an office suite (like the one in a common CAD program). Then LISP will take off from problem solvers everywhere.
@grabsomecoffee
@grabsomecoffee 3 года назад
Cool, thanks man
@homeslacks
@homeslacks 3 года назад
Hey Jeff, been trying to track you down for a quick bit of guidance regarding one of your UCS courses where i'm sort of stuck. Super lame detail...As you start using USCPE you start in a semi clean slate where it only shows the two FI's etc....The Emulator even the same version you're using out the gate comes with a ton of pre-configured hardware and connections etc. I started to try to guess if you deleted what, or disconnect (learned how) virtual devices to get to what state it was in to then follow your course, but its a mess. Can you sort me out with either how to get it to the slicked state you start your demo's in, and or maybe you can link for me a backup of that config i can import to be in lock step? It would just be so much cleaner to have it the same to follow alone without all that noise and or guess how to set it up similar etc. Let me know man. ;)
@BuzzNation69
@BuzzNation69 Год назад
Google said something around 915k at the time i viewed this video! thanks for the video as well :)
@lauhakming
@lauhakming Год назад
Man, this is so great. The best explanation of something that’s I think is so difficult but think maybe I can have a go after watching
@jorgepingitore5024
@jorgepingitore5024 3 года назад
Nice Video. Quick question, What routes the PxTR send to non LISP Domain. This router needs to send all customer subnets to the non Lisp domain to make sure there is connectivity outside LISP domain. Maybe the PxTR requests the entire map information to MRs and then convert it to standard route info and send it via EBGP using the local IP as next-hop? Thanks!
@KishSquared
@KishSquared 3 года назад
Yes that's correct, the PxTR is going to take routes from the LISP domain and advertise them to the non-LISP domain, via BGP or even EIGRP/OSPF. Gotta let the rest of the world know where the LISP routes are!
@jnslzr
@jnslzr 2 года назад
thanks for sharing this more than an intro video; wondering what chalkboard software is that?
@niatpacm.sacras9
@niatpacm.sacras9 2 года назад
Right! And the duplication of terms and ideas also leads to confusion. Lisp and vxlan are pete and re-pete. I can see now the pieces that led to my confusion in the first place.
@niatpacm.sacras9
@niatpacm.sacras9 2 года назад
Or maybe lisp and vxlan are PETR and re-PETR. lol
@eltraveluis
@eltraveluis 3 года назад
Awesome lecture- Thanks
@4epa1012
@4epa1012 2 года назад
Good stuff! Subscribed!
@OProjeto14
@OProjeto14 3 года назад
Great content, Thanks Jeff
@niatpacm.sacras9
@niatpacm.sacras9 2 года назад
Great stuff. Learned this once when it first came out. And somehow technical trainers tend to try and talk to technically and not juat break it down and expkain in plain english for us visual thinkers. Feel I am finally able to piece all the technology features together how they interconnect.
@arsengambaryan3561
@arsengambaryan3561 3 года назад
Great video, thank you!
@MuhammadAbdullah-lu2eh
@MuhammadAbdullah-lu2eh 2 года назад
thank you sir !! you are the boss
@celestinopaulo3217
@celestinopaulo3217 Год назад
Well done, well explained.
@benjaminmusasizi3777
@benjaminmusasizi3777 8 месяцев назад
Thanks Kish
@ZVLOG28
@ZVLOG28 2 года назад
thank you!!!
@anshul161987
@anshul161987 3 года назад
This is great session man.. its very simple and useful.
@habeebayesh3754
@habeebayesh3754 3 года назад
Hi Jeff thank you for your great explanation I see LISP and MPLS looks the same ? what is the referent ?
@KishSquared
@KishSquared 3 года назад
They are very different, actually! MPLS reduces multiple VRF/routing domains to a common method of quickly switching via labels. LISP reduces the routing table sizes within a domain and thereby reduces lookup latency. They work great together!
@koptos
@koptos 3 года назад
@@KishSquared but if the edge routers need to have the full routing table to register to MS/MR and the Core switch MPLS labels, what is the advantage of having them together?
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