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End of Year Melt Up w/ David Hunter | The Outlier Podcast Ep70 

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@mariogotze2082
@mariogotze2082 3 месяца назад
❤ your interview style Eric with going back and forth with follow up questions. A real conversation instead of just pre scripted questions.
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
I enjoying exploring the nuances of a thought process :) I think that can reveal really useful information for listeners.
@euanstewart70
@euanstewart70 3 месяца назад
@@OutlierTrading That really was one of the best DH interviews. Lots of probing questions to get in depth explanations. Well done!
@asudbury817
@asudbury817 3 месяца назад
​@esInvests I know this channel isn't political, but I can't help but wonder with Trump seeking Jamie Dimon (CEO JP Morgan) as Treasury Secretary, eerily similar to George Ws' Hank Paulson appointment (former CEO of Goldman Sachs) that was in place during 2007-2008 financial collapse. Starting to make sense that they want Dimon in place next year as Treasury Secretary when crash happens so can do TARP 2.0 with the big banks getting bailed out and absorbing 100s of small banks. The template is just last year with silicon valley bank....this scenario kind of tracks perfectly with David's thesis. Would love to hear from someone who could compare/contrast 2024-2025 to 2007-2008 who knows a lot about TARP, and banking system to see if same kind of policy response is possible.
@OldTraffordNorway
@OldTraffordNorway 3 месяца назад
David Hunter is the best. We get his knowledge for free. Incredible.
@_JimmyBeGood
@_JimmyBeGood 3 месяца назад
Yea he’s the best at making outlandish predictions that never happen 😂😂😂
@colemant6845
@colemant6845 3 месяца назад
@@_JimmyBeGood Granted ... Hunter has missed the "Timing Target" a LOT over the last 6 years. His "Melt Up" timing has been adjusted 4+ times over the last 6 years. He claims the Post Covid market counts as a "Melt Up"... But never really hit is targets AND was more of a Black Swan... NOT a CYCLE climb like he predicted. His last chance to "Look Credible" will happen in the next 6 months. 7000 S&P ??? Then a 80% Crash?? we will see. Hunter will have to GO AWAY permanently if this does not happen.
@mooretim27
@mooretim27 3 месяца назад
He loves to talk to whoever will let him.
@josephspurgeon3668
@josephspurgeon3668 2 месяца назад
@@OldTraffordNorway where is Dave today? 🤣
@asudbury817
@asudbury817 3 месяца назад
Thanks for having David Hunter on! I re-watched his interview with David Lin yesterday coincidentally from 2-3 months ago, and everything he has been saying is spot on. Brilliant man! The clown car of perma-bears on RU-vid is insane... we all know there's going to be a currency crisis/credit event in future (bust) but if had listened to them last year, it would have cost me huge gains I've realized during this melt up in market this year. This guy is real deal and his calls are on track to be absolutely legendary. Thank you!
@jvaldez1896
@jvaldez1896 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately, he has been right about everything! And if he's right about 2025 through 2030, then we're in big trouble.
@paullilliott7565
@paullilliott7565 3 месяца назад
Excellent - a far more rational and useful layout of the future than most. Time to make money on the up - and the down - AND get used to the possibility of future extreme materials/energy scarcity - learn to grow food, get some off- grid solar, build a solar cooker and get a good electric bike (ideally w covered top). That all takes time to learn. Valuable information!
@jaygreenakajackstax9345
@jaygreenakajackstax9345 3 месяца назад
Hi Eric, i drew lines in on the S&P500 March due to Davids analysis. And the S&P is following the lines i drew nearly to the T. Thank you for your interviews they are great ❤
@TIMMIE1919
@TIMMIE1919 3 месяца назад
When everyone gets in that is the top and they pull the rug.
@antiv
@antiv 3 месяца назад
This channel always has the best interview with David. 👍🏾
@lwang5534
@lwang5534 3 месяца назад
Great interview ❤! Lots of good questions during the interview. Appreciate David’s insights. Thanks!
@GTStuning-
@GTStuning- 3 месяца назад
The Fed driving via the rear view mirror, was a great analogy.
@mktwatcher
@mktwatcher 3 месяца назад
Great Analogy David, comparing Fed's Retro Data Decision Process being compared to Using Your Rear View Mirror to Drive Down a Curvy Road. That's the First I've Heard That One.
@rickvisser1986
@rickvisser1986 3 месяца назад
Great podcast from both of you guys. Thank you from the Netherlands🎉
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@dave8212
@dave8212 3 месяца назад
Thanks Eric, great to hear from Dave again 👍🏻💛
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
Our pleasure!
@JeffJonesJr
@JeffJonesJr 3 месяца назад
I agree a July rate cut surprise seems possible, especially if the Fed weighs the negligible impact of cutting a little earlier, against the benefit of forgoing drama/controversy of cutting at the meeting closest to the election.
@JeffJonesJr
@JeffJonesJr 3 месяца назад
In fact, the more I think about this, it actually seems like the RIGHT approach.
@Cywerker
@Cywerker 3 месяца назад
You are asking the best Questions 👌🏼
@nickastone6158
@nickastone6158 3 месяца назад
Need to ask Dave how to invest in the bust. While commodities price will escalate, so will the costs of the producers - so their margins and valuations will be under pressure. Would suggest small investors will need exposure to commodity price and not commodity businesses through futures ETFs or holding precious metals them selves? Would like to hear Dave's opinion on this?
@TonyBaloz00123
@TonyBaloz00123 3 месяца назад
Great discussion, David at his unpredictable best. Well done to both !!
@AZsTopConnection
@AZsTopConnection 2 месяца назад
David hunter is the man! Good interview, Subscribed
@marcelbiesinger5283
@marcelbiesinger5283 3 месяца назад
Thank you both for the interesting interview. Greetings from Bavaria.
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jesse5909
@jesse5909 3 месяца назад
Great info
@lwang5534
@lwang5534 3 месяца назад
Please have David on often.
@vinims5
@vinims5 3 месяца назад
great convo, love dave's work
@josephspurgeon3668
@josephspurgeon3668 2 месяца назад
@@vinims5 love what work? His record is terrible
@gomba
@gomba 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the video, it would be helpful if you could have the video time stamped. 👍👍
@quadspeak
@quadspeak 3 месяца назад
What’s puzzling is this guy is a cordial perfect gentleman (old school that I can relate to) on his you tube videos , yet turns into a nasty high school professor on X. He does have endless patience with some of the idiots but also is unapproachable for fear of harsh reprisals.
@Mustang360NZ
@Mustang360NZ 3 месяца назад
Hahahaha bang on
@debbiepark5917
@debbiepark5917 2 месяца назад
I have read his things on X that's not angry..he's just letting us no..straight up guy..maybe it's u taking him the wrong way..
@pmcllc1
@pmcllc1 2 месяца назад
Very good conversations thank you!
@user-mi4ys1ux4t
@user-mi4ys1ux4t 3 месяца назад
Sir Michael Oliver as a guest as often as possible would be great also
@gipsytree
@gipsytree 3 месяца назад
"watch & learn" 😂 guys an effing 🤡 BLOCKED!
@Kassaflyt
@Kassaflyt 3 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing the interview! Interesting topics and views :) However something that ruined it a little bit for me since i don't have time to listen to the full hour is that the chapters in the video is not correct. I assume AI or something has been used to generate them? It happened several times and a concrete example is that i wanted to listen to 44:51 - Performance of Metals and Commodities However the question does not being until ~49:30
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
Yeah it's done by AI so not perfect
@graceamsterdam5404
@graceamsterdam5404 3 месяца назад
Thanks a bunch 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 I very much appreciated this interview!
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@harpoen7358
@harpoen7358 3 месяца назад
According to Danielle diMartino Booth the US is since oktober 2023 already in recession.great interview with David Hunter.
@johnwyzz
@johnwyzz 2 месяца назад
Dude have you got another previous 80 year cycle to compare this assumption to?? How old is the stock market?
@Paul-sb3jg
@Paul-sb3jg 3 месяца назад
Jeremy Grantham was talking about a melt-up over 6 years ago!
@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 3 месяца назад
I mean, he was kinda right...
@HC-iu1vs
@HC-iu1vs 3 месяца назад
John Hussman has been calling market over valued since 2013
@Paul-sb3jg
@Paul-sb3jg 3 месяца назад
When he is wrong for 11 years, why would anyone listen to him? A broken clock is still right twice a day. Eventually, he will be right.
@HC-iu1vs
@HC-iu1vs 3 месяца назад
@@Paul-sb3jg Hussman main fund started in 2000 with crash in market he did great and amassed $6B AUM. Since then the return has been less than 1% annually . No family office, institution or individual would put up with that performance. His AUM is now about $300M and that is probably HIS investment. He could mail his annual report to shareholders with half a book of stamps. What is amazing is he gets interviews ,like this one, where he gets praised for what he SAYS but not his terrible record. Hunter is an experienced investor but he started his melt up scenario in 2020. How long should a call take to be considered valid?
@rodneydias9586
@rodneydias9586 3 месяца назад
Excellent interviewer
@markz.5891
@markz.5891 3 месяца назад
grest interview. thank you both
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
of course!
@m1lspec
@m1lspec 3 месяца назад
Thank you, gentlemen, for the insights.
@LuxeonIII
@LuxeonIII 3 месяца назад
David, you mentioned corporations will increase earnings expectations for next year when Fed starts cutting. Yet you expect a major stock market decline. Are you saying these projections would be wrong if market crashes in 2025. Or do you think market crashes because they don’t increase projections or decrease projected profits?
@LuxeonIII
@LuxeonIII 3 месяца назад
If it’s both we don’t really have any market projection we can put money on if it’s 50/50 crash no crash.
@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 3 месяца назад
Thanks. Subscribed. 👍🏻
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
Welcome!
@josephspurgeon3668
@josephspurgeon3668 3 месяца назад
He’s been calling this for 2 years..”is the melt up in the room with us now?”
@paulcoenen7918
@paulcoenen7918 3 месяца назад
Um, have you seen the markets ? The DOW hit a new all time high just last week.
@josephspurgeon3668
@josephspurgeon3668 2 месяца назад
@@paulcoenen7918 where is Dave today 🤣
@calebhendrickson7191
@calebhendrickson7191 3 месяца назад
What was the date of this interview?
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
yesterday
@edpalmieri8647
@edpalmieri8647 3 месяца назад
History has it that once the Fed eases the markets have always turned negative and eventually crash. Don’t think this time will any different.
@andrewincavo3893
@andrewincavo3893 3 месяца назад
Great guest
@rslattery4740
@rslattery4740 3 месяца назад
Watch and learn, brah
@patriciomora9663
@patriciomora9663 3 месяца назад
Time stamps please!!
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
your wish is my command! added via GPT so can't confirm accuracy lol
@timkrouse345
@timkrouse345 3 месяца назад
1:06:30 - Yeah... Tom Lee already calling for 15,000 SPX.
@jtcouch45t
@jtcouch45t 3 месяца назад
I recently sold some of my stocks positions, but I'm retaining a portion for the long term, I want to diversify my $400K portfolio to new gen stocks with masive potential, but I'm uncertain about risks. kinda confused here.
@jamesvr3527
@jamesvr3527 3 месяца назад
David H. The most broken clock on Wall Street. Predicting a crash since 2021, without DD.
@traveler8880
@traveler8880 3 месяца назад
Pls bring him back so you continue where this was left off.
@wissiwizard4536
@wissiwizard4536 3 месяца назад
David is the best
@dgiedt
@dgiedt 3 месяца назад
so the best investment strategy sounds like s=buying silver and silver miners.
@Bprice1000123
@Bprice1000123 3 месяца назад
Great talk.
@lornehouston
@lornehouston 3 месяца назад
Excellent. Thankyou
@traveler8880
@traveler8880 3 месяца назад
Great questions
@joakimgasslander3622
@joakimgasslander3622 3 месяца назад
Thanks
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
You're welcome!
@johnwyzz
@johnwyzz 2 месяца назад
This guy should be talking about eliminating the overshorting of small cap stocks creating a hesitating mentality towards investing
@debbiepark5917
@debbiepark5917 2 месяца назад
Erik like ur questions but the lack of u listening and getting distracted with looking out the window or away or reading something..from focusing on David makes u look like ur not really listening.. 😅😂
@matteotortorici
@matteotortorici 3 месяца назад
He's predicting a road warrior scenario for the 2030s. I hope this doesn't happen. It's not a world anyone wants to live in, no matter how prepared one thinks they are.
@marcelbiesinger5283
@marcelbiesinger5283 3 месяца назад
Eventually, if you are prepared, you might help those that need help. If this is coming
@paulcoenen7918
@paulcoenen7918 3 месяца назад
I think we are pretty much there now, it's just that if mainstream media doesn't show you what is happening in the here and now most people don't think it's really happening
@docdoc4526
@docdoc4526 3 месяца назад
Best of the best 👌🙏
@randymartin9876
@randymartin9876 3 месяца назад
Smolenski, you would be more savvy if you understood that the Fed does not set interest rates. For its entirely history, it has simply followed the 90 day Tbill rate. Talking about when and how much the Fed might cut rates does nothing.
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
Sort of. I agree with the general sentiment but its nuanced. We've seen a significant divergence in bonds and what the fed has maintained rates at for the last two years. If your prose was correct, we wouldn't have rates where they are today.
@cjswa6473
@cjswa6473 3 месяца назад
Figures lie and liars figure. How can you really base any move on numbers that are basically false
@juliandiaz9367
@juliandiaz9367 3 месяца назад
I don't get it, how is he forecasting a hard landing but a massive bull run before it? what is the timeline for the bull run? before rate cuts start or after?
@thethinkingman9338
@thethinkingman9338 3 месяца назад
He is forecasting a “ Melt up” of historic proportions between Now & 1st Q 2025, followed by a Crash up 80% that will bring about a depressionary economic environment lasting max 12 months followed by a commodities Bull cycle, during this cycle he sees gold reaching 15-20k and Silver $300+
@mcfrog
@mcfrog 3 месяца назад
The fart at 34:34
@wissiwizard4536
@wissiwizard4536 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@ScottPerkinsLCMT
@ScottPerkinsLCMT 2 месяца назад
His 50 years "on wall street" he doesnt tell you he was a hot dog vender with a stall on wall street
@marciaherzog7921
@marciaherzog7921 3 месяца назад
Sail can a zombie X V
@mikesmevog7146
@mikesmevog7146 3 месяца назад
Uh, except for the fact that he has been calling for this for years now lol
@justinbartley5245
@justinbartley5245 3 месяца назад
Cant go wrong with mr hunter🎯💯
@mooretim27
@mooretim27 3 месяца назад
He’s not really saying ANYTHING. It’s just a PREDICTION.
@martinithechobit
@martinithechobit 3 месяца назад
Everyone and me gotta apologize to Mr David hunter.
@paulcoenen7918
@paulcoenen7918 3 месяца назад
Why?
@kenskaer4311
@kenskaer4311 3 месяца назад
Yep. Everyone and I mean everyone was all beared up and he still said we are going way up. Hats off to Mr. Hunter.
@KryptoLink
@KryptoLink 3 месяца назад
This old man should buy himself a mic.
@resonance83
@resonance83 3 месяца назад
Waiting meltup since 2008😂 nothing happened
@Christopher.Jackson
@Christopher.Jackson 3 месяца назад
The blowoff top is here.
@seventh7orbit
@seventh7orbit 3 месяца назад
Again ; 15 minutes of info stretched to over one hour. 👎
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
welcome, i'd like to introduce you to the concept of long-form podcasts... for short attention spans, check out tiktok!
@colemant6845
@colemant6845 2 месяца назад
Be careful who you interview... Protect your Credibility.
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 2 месяца назад
Appreciate the notion! His calls are not mine so I've no skin in what he discusses may or may not happen. As I always remind people, the main idea is to pay attention to the concepts and connections he makes. Take what you like, leave what you don't and continue growing. That's the model! Take care!
@rrrfamily565
@rrrfamily565 3 месяца назад
David is one of the biggest clown of wall street haha. He's been consistently wrong on nearly everything he said for past 10+ years. His clownery always amazes me 😂😂😂
@mktwatcher
@mktwatcher 3 месяца назад
Man, you really lose your marbles at about the 54:00 min. mark.
@dht084
@dht084 3 месяца назад
"melt up" is a made up term which means absolutely nothing. Sound like financial illiteracy
@merrittlawrence9647
@merrittlawrence9647 3 месяца назад
This guy is smart… the perma bears have gotten smoked. He can message a click bait forecast while holding out for more gainz…LOL a real “pro”
@CliftonHicksbanjo
@CliftonHicksbanjo 3 месяца назад
😅
@r.s.334
@r.s.334 3 месяца назад
This guy is a bullshitter.
@BatmanBoss
@BatmanBoss 3 месяца назад
Thanks
@OutlierTrading
@OutlierTrading 3 месяца назад
Welcome!
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