As an adult I see the complexity of Beckett’s writing and how the metaphorical suffering is shown in many ways yet in such a simplistic manner. However when I originally learned of this piece’s existence I was 15yrs and was a freshman in AP World Lit. I did not understand ANYTHING no matter how hard I tried. The whole premise of this was far beyond my comprehension and it quite honestly scared me. I really hope kids learning about this find this explanation because you did a very good job and it is more clear than any text book can be. 😁👍🏼
Your 15 year old judgement was actually correct. Somehow or other you were conned into believing that this " play " actually held a deep meaning by the coterie of self appointed experts who invest academia .
Omg this was so insightful. So impressionistic. I needed help with this having only a limited idea of the text and this exceeded my expectations. Thank you.
okay so I saw this video yesterday, and watched and read loads of other stuff, to understand this masterpiece, and two of the girls from my class just said everything you said in class, and my teacher was like excellent. I mean c'mon, it's plagiarism, she didn't know, and I am still thinking, how can someone get the courage to not even rephrase. Okay just leaving it now..... :)
Thank you for watching the video first, and kudos to you for your intellectual integrity. I salute your genuine interest in the play. You don't have to worry. The way you proceeded will pay off. Intellectual honesty is central to academic and personal growth. I'm sure the hard work you put in understanding the play will benefit you. As Alfred Tennyson said in his poem Ulysses: "I am part of all that I have met." The more you read, the more things you meet. Knowledge is power. Be powerful.
wow thank u very much for this analysis ! schopenhauer brought me here and he were a "teacher" of beckett for what i heared i watched few scenes in german and english and did not quit get it but found it so fascinating and interisting after a while spending time with this pessimism literature i turned my back on it because i want to find a way out of this dark theorys but now i am back with more ability to stay strong and think about these topics in another sense i am a german and my english is not the best,so please excuse any mistakes
You're on point. There is a lot of Schopenhauer's philosophy in Beckett's texts. Beckett directly quotes schopenhauer in Proust. Beckett quotes Schopenhauer's definition of art as "the contemplation of the world independently of the principle of reason." The idea that humans are comparable to ill-treated prisoners permeates Beckett's stories, novels and plays. You can arguably trace this idea to Schopenhauer, particularly in On the Sufferings of the World where he writes: "If you want a safe compass to guide you through life, and to banish all doubt as to the right way of looking at it, you cannot do better than accustom yourself to regard this world as a penitentiary." I think Beckett's texts are philosophy magnets, some of the strongest. I find it very ingenious how he vehemently resisted confining his writings to an overall philosophical interpretation. He ketp them free. And they continue to offer wonderful contexts to a variety of philosophical concepts. You're right all those ideas: Schopenhauer's, Zapffe's, Maïnlander's, Benatar's to cite a few are very disturbing. But I think they might amount to something good. When we know that we're all on the same damaged boat regardless of how different we are, we have pity on each other. We know that the other is suffering just like we are. Allow me to cite Schopenhauer when he says: "In fact, the conviction that the world and man is something that had better not have been is of a kind to fill us with indulgence towards one another. Nay, from this point of view, we might well consider the proper way of address to be, not Monsieur, Sir, Mein Herr, but my fellow sufferer, soci malorum, compagnon de misère." We're all companions of misery, and I'm jealous you can speak German my fellow companion.
what a wonderfully clear presentation, thank you Leevark. I watched my friend's online production the production conveyed a lot of feeling, it made me want to understand the themes - and you explain them in such a clear way, congratulations to you.
Thank you very much 🙏 It's a wonderful play as are all of Beckett's works. The first Beckett's text I've read was the short story "The Expelled". It was a jaw-dropping experience.
Aaah that sounds very intersting. Semiotic analysis definitely allows the cultivation of more meaning than what is possible through the sheer analysis of words.
@@alizaid1429 The Elizabethan era is always interesting. Elizabethan theatre is central to understanding the Renaissance in England. There's the shift from the religious and preachy focus to secular and exploratory themes. I'd say go for it!
@@dreamer-tc3in Literature serves many purposes, and I definitely agree that contextualising, and isolating philosophical concepts is one of its most stately purposes.
Clov doesn't leave at the end. He changes his mind at the last moment and decides to stay. The last scene is very similar to the first scene. This reinforces the idea that pain is unending. As long as one is alive, one suffers.
Aaah thank you 🙏I learned English as a foreign language. Then, I've lived for some time in Dundee and Liverpool. I loved the way Dundonians and Scousers talk, and I started to incorporate some of their talking ways into my elocution. I ended up developing this hybrid.
There’s another layer of it The man in the wheels hair is a collective subconscious His son can be seen as our conscious mind The chatter they have can be seen as the chatter in our head that never ends it can be tormenting The trash cans and our parents is our past we can’t leave behind They are all inside the skull and the windows are our eyes that see the world. If you add this layer is even more terrifying that already is
