@@newguy1122 8 us references the thumbnail/description/stuff he said in the video, I'm also pretty sure you mean 77 microseconds (not .77 microseconds), anyways what "official testing" are you talking about?
born too late to explore the earth.. born too early to explore the galaxy.. born just in time for the 2024 renaissance of WIRED gaming mice (truly shocking)
Ordered this based on this video. EDIT: Mine just got here today. Took less than a week from amazon. Software is straight forward. Got it set up and tuned in about 3.
Hope they refresh the xm1r, also hopefully other companies start doing dav3 and op1 8k style releases. The 4k wireless/8k wired gimmick is really dumb when the whole point of using wired is you get less weight and its cheaper, so buying an expensive and heavier wireless mouse with the option to use 8k wired makes no sense lol if I buy a wireless mouse I'm going to use it wireless
This mouse is my endgame. Idk if it’s placebo but the 8k makes me feel like I can’t miss at all. Thanks for convincing me. This mouse is amazing so far!
@@Mikesusendsadasdc I don't think these LEDs consume enough to be even notable on the electric bills, but they do look ugly as hell! 😂 I have an all black PC, also on the inside. Only two LEDs that can be seen from the outside are the power and SSD activity LEDs. The NZXT motherboard inside of it is VERY neatly designed, both in looks and build quality.
You are so right Boardzy. I'm going back to my Zowie S1-c WIRED cuz Zowie refuses to release the wireless version. Thank you for letting me see the light. Wire + Bungee feels almost like my GPX 2
I purchased this mouse recently because of this and similar reviews. It really is quality and even though it has a wire I don't feel it when playing Kovaaks and such.
I bought the Lamzu Maya and this, I had never used a an endgame gear mouse and after trying out both I returned the Maya, mostly due to the coating, I think the Maya shape is great and felt comfy but the more I used it. I never felt "locked in" don't know if its because it felt more like a light toy. But the op1 coating just made it feel super premium and my aim felt a lot more stable even with my hands being 19x10 the op1 is amazing and its a tank.
@@tryfergoodra552 relaxed claw mostly but I’ve also done a more tense claw. Both worked fine. I don’t have a lot of discipline for holding one grip. I’m still using it by the way
This will very likely be my next mouse simply due to the fact that it's wired. 0 latency, 0 charging hassle and pretty much perfect size and shape for my grip, pretty much the best mouse for me under 100$.
How are the default switches vs a razer omron optical? As mice get lighter I appreciate light clicks more, literally shelved my atlantis mini because the force needed to click was throwing my aim on a skypad. Ik the switches are swappable but I want that there microsecond latency. THANKS BOARDZY
To anyone hesitant about buying the mouse because its wired, I recommend if you have a bungee to try using your wireless mouse while its plugged in. In my opinion there isn't any difference and wired mice are still very useable.
@@aapa_ohno I will say that shouldn’t be a problem I did it a while back. I just hated the lack of transparency and the toxic behavior by the employees in the discord. I had a really favorable opinion of EGG before all of this.
finally a seal of aprooval worthy of a mouse after who knows how many fails. as a wired mouse user myself it's great to see something like this on the market. def cope.
Good shit, would be nice if they released more of a universal shape in addition to “claw-only” mouses. It is nice to have an ultimate high-tech Zowie ZA but damn it's claw-limited xD
As someone who likes custom keyboards, I really like the idea of swappable switches on mice! I'm currently using a Razer Viper 8K wired mouse, but this could be a great successor: more of the same, but better. What I also like about this Endgame mouse: IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT TACKY RGB CRAP! 😁 Btw, How is the construction? No cheap creaking plastic like Logitech mice have?
I think gamers are silly thinking this shit matters when you're trash at a game. The space of you winning or losing a gunfight in even the most crazy fast and precision game is 10s of millis in terms of you noticing and failing to react properly. Your own dexterity and imperfect biology and mental functioning, or energy is why you don't play perfectly. Stuff like this is a vanity for sure; if your mouse was changed out from under you while you were playing, you would not notice the difference. Is there one? Yes, but that you don't notice it means your limit isn't the hardware.
My Dareu 950 pro arrived it has 4k, and waht i can tell you about this 2k, 4k, 8k that its literally the same shit with minus a fuck ton fps... its such a scam... ima stay on 1k from now on for decades.
@@boardzy all of them are same, logitech overpriced, razer overpriced, lamzu overpriced, bruh lamzu, hati and many more are chinese as well, where do you think evey mouse company gets their compopnents... CHINA... 4k is overrated.
i feel like this is the reason why the xm2w wasn't released at all. they were trying to get the lowest click latency but couldn't do it with wireless? idk I'm rambling.
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I play a lot cs2 and used a lot gpro wireless and ec1 -c , I have big hands (20,5cm x 10cm) relax claw grip! I decides to give a shot on OP1 8k cause of many reviews and curiosity with small mices! The mouse is perfect, so precise , click buttons is perfect, and I performed much better of my old mices! But Im with a big problem! I let my ring finger relaxed close my middle finger , after 10 minutes, starts to hurt my ring finger, like a burning friction on skin and bone pain, even with the grip tape thats come with the mice! Im Very desapointed because is so perfect but this is killing me! Some ideias? A thicker and more slippery grip tape could solve this? Im think on return It and sooo Lost to get other mouse !
Ive noticed that since ive switched to wireless from my zowie fk2 way back in the day i havent been able to build muscle memory like i used to have. Im hoping a wired mouse again will help me feel more consistent.
Got this mouse since 2 weeks now and it did replace my Sora4k and Razer Signature immediately. Not feeling like a wired mouse and Sensor performance(using 4k) and clicks are perfect. Did play like 40hrs of CS and had 2 times issues with Mouse1 click jamming causing rapid fire.It was like switch did stuck. Need to play around with those trigger settings to find the perfect one for me. Now looking for a bungee to make the setup complete. 8K testing once my Dell aw2725dw will arrive :)
fuck hyperX pulsefire haste 2 wired for its crazy clicking lag issue that occurs randomly at times fuck razer viper 8khz for holding a brick while gaming and the sensor issue where the mouse pointer moves randomly about its place too (both mouse mentioned above are set to 8khz polling rate so i'm not sure if these problems happen due to the high polling rate?) Update 1: 4khz on the Endgame Gear Op1 8k in BF5 with no issues so far, still getting the same issues on 4khz polling rate with the haste 2 wired. this is truly my Endgame Gear, I need no other mouse in my life forever 😂
I have the xm2we and really enjoy the shape and all, is there any of the newer EGG mice I should try thats "better"? Otherwise ill just stay with the xm2we
Boardzy just a small question, I recently just got the Artisan Hien. Is it normally supposed to be rough and a little bit stiff compared to the Saturn pro?
@boardzy I was hoping to get your feedback on my issue with the op18k. I have a email in to the support staff of end game gear. I have had to stop using the op18k when playing Fortnite. For about a week I am getting major fps drops and stutters when using the op18k on Fortnite. Previous to this I was able to play without fps drops or stutters at 8k polling. I tried changing to a lower polling to no avail. I have re downloaded the software that didn't help my issue.
So on 1k you’re getting fps drops and stutters? That is super weird I would guess system instability but that usually only causes issues on high polling rates
@@boardzy Yes at the moment I switched back to a Lamzu Atlantis mini 4k polling rate no stutters or drops. Only tested on Fortnite as that is all I play. Waiting on response from end game gear support. What is really weird is I set up OP18k using reviews from yourself and aimadapt. For the first month of ownership op18k was flawless at 8k polling on Fortnite. This issue started about a week ago.
Just to remind, there is a less than 2ms difference in click latency between the wired and wireless gpx. That is 0.002 seconds and completely imperceptible by any human.
@@anglchnn I don’t think wireless implementation means what you think it means. Click and sensor latency testing is a measure of wireless implementation, and is within 2ms of wired on almost all modern wireless gaming mice. Again, imperceptible. Interference exists, but is almost a non issue at this point with modern wireless 2.4 ghz receivers unless you have a router like 3ft from your mouse.
Hey Boardzy how did you get it stable on 4K? Do you use windows 10 or 11?Im on windows 10. i have a 7800x3d cpu and 3080 GPU. The mouse is godly though even on 2K..
I can definitely tell, and the main benefit is consistency. When doing reaction time tests on my 4kDav3wired my scores are very close together from 140-150ms very consistently hitting 145ms. When using one of my 1kwireless mice that has 4ms click latency my scores slip dramatically and become very unpredictable ranging from 150ms-180ms. Being able to trust that your clicks will always register at the same time is huge for aiming as your brain doesn’t need to waste resources trying to predict where the target is going, and if your cursor will get there on time. So my brain has moved aiming into my subconscious. I don’t think about aiming, I don’t look at my crosshair it just moves on its own and if the crosshair is on something when I click I get the kill everytime. I don’t whiff anymore. Trust me I wish this wasn’t true. I only bought this Dav3 because it was a cheap way to try the new deathadder shape, I’d rather use a more comfortable mouse shape for my grip but the latency improvement was very noticeable in game. I own a number of wireless 1k mice, a wired 1k mouse and a badly implemented corsair 8k wired mouse (performance on this mouse is terrible and inconsistent). The one thing I haven’t tried are the wireless 4k/8k mice because they are too expensive, so I can’t really tell if the latency is a noticeable improvement going from wireless to wired.
@@WARnTEADepends on the mice you are comparing to the dav3 wired but I’m betting that increased delay in your response time has more to do with switch actuation force and you yourself than any perceived sensor latency variation. Most decent 1k wireless mice have measured latency variations of less than 5ms, so it is quite literally not possible for them to be adding 20-30ms to your times.
In regard to the wire I am not saying it is deal breaking but you can certainly feel it especially if it is dragging on the pad like it is in the review. For some it’s not a big deal for others it is. I think that is more noticeable than if you compared the GPX 2 on 2K polling vs 8K on the Endgame.
There is one way to have absolutely zero wire feel. It's by fixing it to your wrist. You can achieve this by running the cable through a gaming sleeve or through a wrist band of some sorts. I run the OP18k wire through the band of my carpio g2.0 and even on the widest flicks possible I cannot feel the wire on the mouse.
i apologize for maybe dumb question, but can anyone tell me what usb port i must use for this mouse to run at 2-4-8k? usb 2.0 or 3.0-3.1... thank you very much help, cuz cant find official info
