Great point from tasteless about getting dark archons to maelstrom the mutalisks. I've only seen it done a couple times but each time I've seen it it annihilates an entire control group of mutalisks within seconds. Zerg looks a bit overpowered against protoss sometimes, but it seems like a lot of these protoss just don't use the tools available to them. Protoss players will consistently lose virtually every single high Templar they build to mutalisks and do absolutely nothing to counter it for an entire series. If they're going to make HT the entire game, it seems stupid and stubborn to not to mix in a couple dark archons to shut down the mutalisk snipes; they can also feedback defilers. They aren't even all that expensive , the Maelstrom upgrade is 100/100, and a dark archon is only 50 more gas than a high Templar. The bullheadedness is right up there with only having one or two observers against a Zerg player with lurkers, and losing when they get sniped.
I completely agree. It works so well too that if it became the meta I would imagine Zergs wouldn't even bother making mutas. Just the threat alone of killing a control group of mutas virtually for free would be too much. Additionally they would have other uses too. As you said, they can snipe defilers with feedback (which seems even better than irradiate at that job) and I've been wondering if maelstrom would be worth it against mass hydra. It seems like it would but I could be wrong.
@@abstractdaddy1384 Maelstrom would indeed work well against Hydralisks. It's the same idea as against Mutalisks : Maelstrom into storm. I'm always surprised Protoss players don't use the Dark Archon more. It's a really strong unit. Perhaps it would be hard to use in reaction to Mutalisk because of the time it takes to research Maelstrom. You need anti-air now, when your templars are getting sniped, not one minute and a half later. But even then, the Dark Archon is good enough to fit in any PvZ scenario, so you could always build a couple of them as part of your standard army composition.
@@mattetis Well, why not? Some people are passionate about video games. Some are passionate about one specific game, like Starcraft. If this guy's passion is one specific Starcraft unit, you know, whatever floats his boat. ^^
28:45 soma vs Mini 55:37 Shuttle vs SoulKey 1:17:03 Winners' set 1 1:31:36 Winners' set 2 1:46:20 Winners' set 3 1:58:46 Losers' set 1 2:20:40 Losers' set 2 2:43:50 Losers' set 3 3:05:21 Final set 1 3:22:36 Final set 2 3:34:20 Final set 3
It's also a psychological thriller game about (spoiler alert!) an AI that saves the consciousness of the last dying person in a science facility to download them into robots and keep trying to save the facility, to give the AI a chance to 'live'.
That's actually the only reason I'd approve a patch for BW. Something like -50/50 cost, +3 damage ground, -4 damage air Well, that, and a Ghost update...
Tech into guardians to get the zealot out, hahaha :_D good one. Or, you're the ogre-zerg gamer, you build a few infested Terrans and hit that Zealot with 500 damage to get him out of the mineral line.
yeah SC2 was better when it first came out I think, can't stand how it plays anymore seems poorly balanced and too fast (some games end in 2-5 minutes lol)
It is impossible to find any ASL video where people are not praising tastosis' casting. I always think like "hey they are AMAZING, lets share that in the comments", but then I scroll down and find that hundreds of people already did it :D
Tasteless speaking truth: the defiler is only as good as it's support and it works against own units the same way as it does against the enemies. The defiler will never kill a unit on it's own. It's tier III and needs a ton of research. Vulture is a tier 1 unit basicly free, is the fastest unit in the game, does a ton of damage, does detection and damage pretty much anywhere on the map. High dps and speed. If u play terran units right you win 100%. Dark Templar has the highest ground unit DPS. It's DPS is equal to the Ultra on units without Armor. With armor the Dark Templars DPS is even higher.
@2:43:50 Wow they got a 1-minute break....after that huge epic game of 21 minutes. I cannot even imagine the clickpower needed for that game, and they only gave them a 1-minute break? I would need 5 or 10 minutes to rest my hands and maybe walk around some.
I look forward to this season's finals, I think that the protoss has a real shot at winning this year. I mean we have best and snow, they're both really good players, I think that the best shot we have though is with the greatest protoss of the tournament, Flash
Soma is the drug they take in a Brave New World. Soma is also a real drug, a muscle relaxant, a powerful one. They hardly prescribe it anymore. Soma means "body" i believe in greek.
Larva is so unlucky. He gets matched against a Zerg in ro8 again. Out of the 4 opponents he could have drawn, he would have been fine with any except for Soulkey. It was a 1/4 chance.
It seems like protoss kind of struggles against Zerg. But I also can't help but think protoss players could do a lot better if they built dark archons to counter mutas, reavers to counter hydralisks, and observers to counter lurkers. Every protoss just build dragoons, zealots, and High Templar, and then gets owned by some combination of hydra, muta, and lurker
**SPOILER ALERT** i really dont understand why protoss players don't use Dark Archons more. i know its micro heavy and quite expensive but watching game after game of mutas destroying HTs confounds me. theo ne time mini used it he closed the game against soulkey.
ikr, it costs 2HT in gas, including the upgrade plus the DA is not targeted by the AI, so it often survives the battles, and it's useful even against Hydras Best does use it a lot.
someone can give a link about the game where soma did something to bisu ? i hate when tastosis talking about a game but gives zero direction for finding it.
@@jacobunderwood4957 it was a joke man, I was taking the piss at how everyone whines about zerg being op in sc2, I don't think either game is particularly imbalanced for the record.
A few comments: You can't go just all hydra, because then protoss can supplyblock you for days. (In the context they were talking about. Yes, it's true you can go all hydra and defend that way, in some circumstances, but not when protoss has that quick corsairs) At that point there was no way Soulkey could have had the money to research overlord speed, drop and lurkers, while making that amount of mutas. You CAN put a spire under a cocoon, but it's so high, its top pokes out, so it's visible. Not big things, but I thought some might wonder.
Perhaps you should add timestamps to your text, so that we may have an idea what you are talking about. For example, when you say "at that point", no one is going to guess what point you are talking about.
@@GrandBenja Are you kidding me?! It makes total sense if you've watched the games! What do you want from me?! Go through the 4 hours of video again? Oh well, the things I do. XD Hydra: 2:25:45 Drop: 3:18:25 Spire: 3:29:15
@@csucskos 9 ZvP games were played in total today. Of course no one is going to guess what specific game you were talking about with a vague comment like "you can't go just all hydra". Good, thank you. :)
The problem with d-web is that you spend to much money to tech to it and research it, it takes too much energy to cast (and you need a lot of them for how many lurkers there were), and they also stiffle your own army so you can't take a good battle in that position. Mini wasn't doing too bad with the Reavers but the problem was that he had multiple Reaver drops fail, they didn't do enough damage and Soulkey had a better economy.
@@Galacsia Honestly, if you went Corsairs, they probably all have 200 energy banked, and the upgrade is only 200/200 IIRC. And you're pretty assured to break the siege. And if you only kill 2 lurkers thanks to it, it's already paid for itself. So I would tend to agree with HatchumoSC1.
If going heavy on corsairs it also enables +2 and +3 attack upgrades. +3 upgrade with web and energy upgrade makes them strong, most of them should also have 200 energy when disruption web comes available. The attack upgrade is especially strong as it upgrades splash damage with high rate of fire and low base damage. This depends do you intend having lots of them but making 2 starports is a heavy investment. All of the units and upgrades in this game have utility when used correctly and disruption web have indeed made by the developers to counter balance lurkers as both of them are brood war units that come with the add on. Having enough corsairs on upgrades, disabling spore colonies and hydras, shooting overlords within seconds (3 shot overlords, 2 shot mutas in area damage) how can zerg ever come out of supply block ? Having Devourers which is at disadvantage with no upgrades against +attack on corsairs.
He quit sc1 cause he doesnt have much profit or fun compared to get stressed when he loses the game. He is already a vip customer at the bank and has a lot of winning experience, so he doesnt seems like motivated to try hard anymore. Now he is basically a streamer, not a professional player, so he once said that the atmosphere of relying on fans' crowdfunding for his income is burdensome
@@ghtjdrla Thanks for the detailed info! Can you tell me what happened to Last? He used to be the second best Terran after Flash but then he just disappeared. Is he in the military??
@@CanariasCanariass He will be in military service, but that doesnt mean he wont be in asl. He still has wrist problem, making it difficult to join asl. He still streams sc1, but play with non-progamer for enjoys light games. And his dessert cafes are expanding its branches so there seems to be no reason to try hard anymore for money
Tasteless for the sake of god, stop saying that soulkey is going for 9 h/9p when he clearly isnt... Only because he did it last s 9 ASL on the canyon map, doesnt mean he is doing it right now on every f. map ...
Arty, I don't understand, in the first set.... Mini forgot sair against a noob wearing shit on his face. Why Mini throw game?? But then storm aoe and DT shows.... Soma n00b, probably trust government as well.... bad move.... lets see how that works out for the rest of the series.
toss is ahed wright now he got gas starport +1 running on this map hard to take 3th gas as toss however zerg doesnt have 3th gas as well good probe mikro as mini
I kinda hate the random matchmaking especially as they get deeper into the tournament. Just have some judges pick the matches so you don't end up with as many mirror and skill imbalance matches. Maybe it's not as "fair" but as a viewer some of these games are lightning in a bottle and some are meh. ZvZ is pretty meh honestly ... It's too bad these amazing Zergs gona cannablize
I wouldn't go as far as saying judges should pick the matches - the competition has to remain fair. But I would definitely agree with a "no mirror match in ro8" rule. If you get a mirror match, reroll.
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