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Tuned EK Civic's ultimate battle. N/A All motor vs. Turbo in a race at Tsukuba.
Starting grid:
1. Phase Civic EK (Takeshi Tsuchiya) N/A
2. Spoon Civic EK (Keiichi Tsuchiya) N/A
3. SS Works CRX (Kawasaki Shuhei) N/A
4. Esprit Civic EK (Akira Ida)
5. Top Fuel Civic EK (Orido Manabu)

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@miroshi
@miroshi 6 лет назад
Hondash - the ultimate tool to monitor your Honda www.hondash.net facebook.com/hondashapp/
@OneDaymien
@OneDaymien 4 года назад
Unless you have a chipped ecu then it wont work realy silly actualy
@cvgbcs
@cvgbcs 9 лет назад
that vtec sound on the spoon.. Hnnnnnng
@akumaz78
@akumaz78 7 лет назад
This is merely toys for them and god level of controlling that lost control Spoon EK is freaking insane!....bow down to the Drift King!
@mittiusschmittius1327
@mittiusschmittius1327 5 лет назад
"Tire wear is bad" "is this the weakness of turbo powered cars??" Nah I think its that -6 degrees camber lmao
@bones6978
@bones6978 3 года назад
Camber doesn't kill tyres, toe does.
@MiikeyLawless
@MiikeyLawless 3 года назад
@@bones6978 excessive camber will wear tires faster.
@AdmiralStickney
@AdmiralStickney 3 года назад
@@bones6978 Camber will kill tires if its excessive, it'll reduce the grip and make the inside take the brunt of the wear even through corners which is not what you want.
@halolime117
@halolime117 2 года назад
@@bones6978 camber kills a lot of tires lol I work at a tire center 😂
@charleywaynehinkle6358
@charleywaynehinkle6358 7 лет назад
looks like crx would have won if it didnt start breaking down
@moali2531
@moali2531 4 года назад
Yeah, them breaks were fucking scary
@3clubforever
@3clubforever 4 года назад
I love how the carbed 2.0 liter took off on the others. It takes a lot of skill to tune carbs that well
@SpaceMissile
@SpaceMissile 5 лет назад
the shifting on those foot cams. amazing.
@gustavedorantejr4372
@gustavedorantejr4372 6 лет назад
Best channel to watch some good old Honda's race
@Cobourn003
@Cobourn003 9 лет назад
its looks like the top fuel civic had a massive amount of negative camber in the front, i wonder if that was contributing to the tire wear , or even if that was causing the car to lose grip instead of the tires wearing out.. it looked like the espirit civic also had a high amount of negative camber but not as much as the top fuel. the n/a cars didnt have near as much camber up front. btw thankyou very much for all these videos miroshi!!! very glad i found your channel!
@angelohaka5322
@angelohaka5322 8 лет назад
N/A all day every day!
@mushy18100
@mushy18100 7 лет назад
angelo haka maximizing the full potential of an engine 👍🏼🏁
@chadw4638
@chadw4638 7 лет назад
How is naturally aspirated maximizing the engine when a turbo can add power and be more efficient?
@krocialblack
@krocialblack 7 лет назад
Chad W it's universally known that an N/A motor has access to it's rpm all the time, while turbos have to spool up to a certain rpm and boost sweet spot. On top of that,N/A motors are less likely to fail than a turbocharged motor, you can run all motor cars all day without a problem. Sure the turbo gets more power, but in the long run N/A is the more efficient and reliable circuit racing choice.
@chadw4638
@chadw4638 7 лет назад
Na is more reliable at times cause they produce less power. And a turbo engine when tuned the same is more efficient
@tanker9987
@tanker9987 7 лет назад
How are they more efficient? They usually lave a lower compression ratio, added weight, long intake piping if they use an inter-cooler and a big exhaust restriction. The only way cars can become more efficient with a turbo is by downsizing the engine or it's diesel.
@merits89
@merits89 9 лет назад
Greatly appreciate it miroshi!!! Cant wait for the next video!! Thanks!
@derekpokphan8518
@derekpokphan8518 5 лет назад
3 honda civics with spoon engines lol
@josearteaga9667
@josearteaga9667 4 года назад
Dont forget the motech exhaust and sumi tires lol
@akihiko4036
@akihiko4036 4 года назад
and the T66 turbos
@rickym.9648
@rickym.9648 3 года назад
All that before it was cool!
@Pharaoh_The_Great
@Pharaoh_The_Great 3 года назад
And NOS
@macnchillidogs1601
@macnchillidogs1601 3 года назад
Lol
@mechanicandi1064
@mechanicandi1064 8 лет назад
Top fuel always on point with there tuning
@kenpachizaraki8015
@kenpachizaraki8015 6 лет назад
The funny thing about this race is the SS Work CRX only use a FCR Carburetor and still can compete with Turbo and ITB Civic lol..Hail to the Carby!
@ridinggravity703
@ridinggravity703 9 лет назад
always wanted to see a comparison like this
@manfromnantucket9544
@manfromnantucket9544 7 лет назад
Pushed the CRX too hard, driver was faster than the car
@MrWil7pr
@MrWil7pr 9 лет назад
Thanks miroshi awesome video keep doing a great job
@fabrb26
@fabrb26 9 лет назад
2:27 spot the drift king... lol
@Gordon4Games
@Gordon4Games 7 лет назад
it's actaully a powerslide but whatever
@Flowermouth
@Flowermouth 7 лет назад
Clippy He's saying that because the driver is Keiichi Tsuchiya. Also you can't powerslide an FF car lmao
@wombatonsteroids
@wombatonsteroids 7 лет назад
Yes you can, he just did. Hell, a select few number of people have even managed to drift FWD cars. By no means are they good for, or designed for either of those two things, but if you have enough forward movement and drive and manage to throw the weight transfer and inertia, it's inevitable that the car will go sideways.
@SpaceMissile
@SpaceMissile 5 лет назад
"Scandinavian Flick!"
@MFUnicornBey
@MFUnicornBey 5 лет назад
Why are people so fed up with the specifics, powerslide or not who cares, he tapped the brake to move weight forward, the rear went off and the car went into oversteer. Everything else is useless chat.
@user-ke3lm4jx6r
@user-ke3lm4jx6r Месяц назад
Как же хорош этот Сивик! Великолепен хоть в стоке, хоть в любом тюнинге!
@behopp
@behopp 9 лет назад
SS works FTW
@21band
@21band 8 лет назад
I love this auto... Miroshi... Is my dream auto
@JohanSalvattore
@JohanSalvattore 8 лет назад
That -camber on the top fuel civic though! Who says crazy -camber is only for silly stance lol
@fukkinkana
@fukkinkana 8 лет назад
I'm not seeing any car here with ridiculous camber like how most Honda drivers have now days.
@JohanSalvattore
@JohanSalvattore 8 лет назад
***** I was being sarcastic
@ancientapparition1638
@ancientapparition1638 5 лет назад
whenever I see insane camber on a car I immediately die inside
@pavlolowry5441
@pavlolowry5441 5 лет назад
Anyway its a Track car so if its efective i may let it pass, you see on driftcars but on a daily car ..
@thefuzzypickle8277
@thefuzzypickle8277 4 года назад
Pretty sure he was complaining about tire wear lol
@shaunkellister6597
@shaunkellister6597 9 лет назад
Lovin these vidz
@mitchislam578
@mitchislam578 5 лет назад
That was amazing. Intense.
@Pythonassum
@Pythonassum 4 года назад
now this is way more interesting than nascar
@abdullahamad7545
@abdullahamad7545 9 лет назад
Great video
@power_of_r6033
@power_of_r6033 8 лет назад
ah the infamous n1 crank pulley on the 1.8l spoon civic spotted @0:28 nice
@duanebailey6253
@duanebailey6253 6 лет назад
For a Honda made products nothing is shittty on there n1 parts. What n1 pump are you reffering to I didnt think Honda made a n1 pump for the b-series. The n1 crank pulley is lighter helping the crank spin freely while still providing dampening.
@sbfhawk4343
@sbfhawk4343 5 лет назад
CRX had them all the way until the brakes begin to fade away. If his brakes were bigger those turbos would had no chance
@Saugusari11
@Saugusari11 7 лет назад
aahhahahaha aaaa-aaaaa chappy at the end xD these are so good, they are just so natural and into it!
@TheMatsushitaMan
@TheMatsushitaMan 6 лет назад
#1 is crazy fast. I'd be hardcore racing this everywhere. #2 is LOUD and nice!!! #3 sounds crazy. I love #3!!! #4 is a bit quieter. I would be having this as a daily car if I could.
@nahrafe
@nahrafe 6 лет назад
Blue crx, love it!
@bernardovti
@bernardovti 9 лет назад
Good video
@oscarzt1652
@oscarzt1652 6 лет назад
5:49 it sounded like the VTEC went back to the small cam lobe for a second.
@bobbobertson8410
@bobbobertson8410 3 года назад
My mates EP3 used to flick off vtec occasionally on hard cornering no idea why as I have never seen another EP3 do this... Then again never seen anyone who has the balls to drive ther EP3 like my mate did. Scary a hell 😰😰
@miralemnermina142
@miralemnermina142 3 года назад
@@bobbobertson8410 oil starvation ;)
@danialroxx
@danialroxx 5 лет назад
Wow what a race
@DreamsOfGaruda
@DreamsOfGaruda 9 лет назад
Great video, thank you!
@asapbrazyssjblood1110
@asapbrazyssjblood1110 5 лет назад
The Civic DoriDori was driving is sick doing 3 wheelies turns
@guigao28
@guigao28 6 лет назад
Spoon for me... the coolest
@jehdbrbjeirodofjdjebeebbsnaka
I love how the carbureted CRX dusts them all at the beginning lol
@traderryan713
@traderryan713 Год назад
Tsukuba looks perfect for these cars. Just did a bunch of laps in GT6 w/ ek9. Same wheels i think. lol.
@thappruchyarammabut9777
@thappruchyarammabut9777 4 года назад
ปี2019 ผมก็ยังดูอยู่ครับ
@tommy2059
@tommy2059 7 лет назад
the naturally aspirated didn't have his brake bled probably because he kept locking up the left front wheel even when turning right.
@billypoe3703
@billypoe3703 4 года назад
My dream car is: a Civic EK with 1.8 Turbo, stripped interior, with Spoon everything.
@macnchillidogs1601
@macnchillidogs1601 3 года назад
This pleases my VTEC
@napalmman8292
@napalmman8292 5 лет назад
That gear ratio on the spoon civic
@eludethis
@eludethis Год назад
That was entertaining!😂
@ricardovilla7676
@ricardovilla7676 4 года назад
SPOON!!!!!!!!!!
@francescorovegno4529
@francescorovegno4529 Год назад
Fucking amazing race!!!!
@godzilla12325
@godzilla12325 11 месяцев назад
3:04 holy shit look at the camber on the front wheel 😂 i thought it was broken for a second lol mental
@reycuerdos
@reycuerdos 4 года назад
Sounds better than F1 today.
@vitalioz
@vitalioz 9 лет назад
CRX!
@godemperormeow8591
@godemperormeow8591 4 года назад
Aerodynamics for the win.
@Sub___Zero
@Sub___Zero 8 лет назад
Turbo 4ever. In this or after life !
@SHIBATANTYUSU
@SHIBATANTYUSU 7 месяцев назад
VTECは上まで回すときの音がたまんないよな〜☺
@inaamaltaf9471
@inaamaltaf9471 5 лет назад
to all the amaricans out there who say "fwd dont need rear wing" look at the crx, the only car with a wing also the only car that doesn't swing its ass like a happy dog.
@fresh0678
@fresh0678 2 года назад
Homeboy saved it fucking amazingly.
@Datboi-qq4de
@Datboi-qq4de 2 года назад
These guys are just having fun lol
@EJ2BSeries
@EJ2BSeries 5 лет назад
Why did they put a thick cylinder plate between the headgasket? This is oldschool and 90' ...today stock b16 and b18 with stock headgasket + can handle over 400whp. Are they not up to date in japan?
@ExciteLetsPlay
@ExciteLetsPlay 4 года назад
This is a 90s video lol
@michaelgrandmaison1923
@michaelgrandmaison1923 4 года назад
EF? vs EK? Where's the EG? Even video games forget the eg hatch and how legendary the car is... 😪
@mikeswanson7029
@mikeswanson7029 4 года назад
In Japan they didnt have the eg hatch. Only the coupe and they 4 dr
@quirble
@quirble 4 года назад
? the japanese had the EG6. you can find videos of tuned EG6 on this channel, spoon has covered them before.
@jeanlessage7560
@jeanlessage7560 4 года назад
Mike Swanson eg6 is jdm Civic sir II hatchback
@michaeldavidmontalvo2402
@michaeldavidmontalvo2402 4 года назад
@@mikeswanson7029 you got it way wrong friend
@oliviersavard8676
@oliviersavard8676 4 года назад
EG is older and I believe a bit lighter but not as rigid as the EK
@iainchan
@iainchan 6 лет назад
3:33 dori dori on 3 wheels hahaha
@oliviersavard8676
@oliviersavard8676 4 года назад
Noticed that too, the swaybar seems pretty stiff
@iainchan
@iainchan 4 года назад
@@oliviersavard8676 I might be wrong but these stiffer setups work quite well on track
@louieanderson2847
@louieanderson2847 7 лет назад
They use 330 mm steering wheels?
@dkvperformance
@dkvperformance 2 года назад
+1
@k24hybrid
@k24hybrid 4 года назад
This HV seems more exciting than normal heheh do you think the footage is slightly accelerated (Fast Forward)?
@ej22_gc86
@ej22_gc86 4 года назад
k24hybrid clearly not, it would shake a whole lot more and it would be obvious
@k24hybrid
@k24hybrid 4 года назад
@@ej22_gc86 nice! 😉
@majjegaming5927
@majjegaming5927 11 месяцев назад
Crx is a weapon
@Mr.Takahash1
@Mr.Takahash1 4 года назад
That CR-X would have won if it had some racing stripes on.
@Tombrosapien
@Tombrosapien 4 года назад
EK’s are so cute looking
@Nobody7720
@Nobody7720 3 года назад
8:36 Me every time with a girl. Can never get the stick in gear before the motor blows.
@shombiedixon7017
@shombiedixon7017 9 лет назад
Time attack crx don't f off. Type R civic came for em tho. Raw azz race.
@cincysilvia8807
@cincysilvia8807 2 года назад
not surprised with the turbo complaining of tires. with the fronts doing all the work it makes sense loads going to be worse
@tr6864
@tr6864 5 лет назад
Why they change it to carburetor system ? Any advantages ?
@illewmenadeh722
@illewmenadeh722 5 лет назад
Same question here
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 4 года назад
NA for life
@chrisperrish9535
@chrisperrish9535 3 года назад
N/A.... all day.... 👍
@equill5697
@equill5697 4 года назад
Like:civic type r Comment:civic cr-x :) Edit: 6:22 NANI!?
@0371998
@0371998 6 лет назад
Someone know why the new type of Honda " 2017 " are made with Turbo and not with Turbo + vtec ? An Ingenior problem ?
@gurjindersingh199
@gurjindersingh199 6 лет назад
Mithra Charon only the new type r is a good Honda the 1.5T is rubbish
@skippy2987
@skippy2987 5 лет назад
It's only vtec in the exhaust side anyway. Might as well have a D16 :p
@illewmenadeh722
@illewmenadeh722 5 лет назад
They are made with VTEC but they use reverse VTEC to help the turbo with spooling up
@skippy2987
@skippy2987 5 лет назад
But really it's just for cost reasons. If you can get the required emissions and performance without vtec there's no point having it.
@motol1993
@motol1993 8 лет назад
can't you just apply full throttle to fling the fwd car back in a straight line when its oversteering?
@yaushaas
@yaushaas 8 лет назад
i'm guessing you never tried lol. i've done it yes, it will correct you but being that far sideways and full throttle it will fling you so hard idk if human hands/arms are even fast enough to straighten the wheel back. When I tried, I was like a loose skateboard going crazy down hill.
@Igor56322
@Igor56322 7 лет назад
yes, the motor makes the car go straight back
@Bethhh420
@Bethhh420 7 лет назад
yeah if you have a 140 HP car, if you floor it while losing control when you have a turbo you'll lose traction
@kevysrandomstuff5835
@kevysrandomstuff5835 Год назад
yeah but to much and if wheel spin, this will make the car still go in the direction of its current inertia
@WipeoutXXXX
@WipeoutXXXX 9 лет назад
+Gabriel Lopez N/A stands for naturally aspirated, which means the car isnt booted by a turbo, turbos generate more tire wear, more potential failures and with that a huge loss of power, this means N/A engines are mostly more reliable and economic/cheaper aswell. If you put in a turbo you need to adjust many things or the turbo is worthless under the hood, its more pricier aswell. The Power a N/A Engine creates is constantly and more balanced at lower, mid and High rpms, the turbo gives the most Power in the higher segment of rpms and is lass balanced, hope that helped.
@Cricis11700
@Cricis11700 7 лет назад
twin sequential turbos is the answer to your argument.
@duncan7610
@duncan7610 Год назад
What shows is this ??
@TheShamiester
@TheShamiester 2 года назад
Turbo cars when they see a straight “I am speed” xD
@Pro60modman
@Pro60modman 2 года назад
I now understand why that chinese turbo company called themselves SSworks in the beginning.
@equill5697
@equill5697 3 года назад
6:25 Vtec:hello da Vtec Turbo:nani?! Vtec:bye :D
@timothyrinaldi6609
@timothyrinaldi6609 6 лет назад
Crx definitely need better short shifter
@jasonswanson8885
@jasonswanson8885 5 лет назад
True Japanese videos...reminds me of the old karate movies...lol
@denis_vr6
@denis_vr6 8 лет назад
turbo
@nikolayvorobyev1697
@nikolayvorobyev1697 9 лет назад
ах какой звук
@christopherlopez6668
@christopherlopez6668 4 года назад
No entiendo nada lo q dice pero q buenas naves
@khairilrosmi4981
@khairilrosmi4981 4 года назад
+1 shingo points
@imcnblu
@imcnblu 4 года назад
"Tire wear is severe." Maybe if more than 1/8 of it was in contact with the road, you'd get more than two miles out of them. _THAT_ much camber is _NOT_ beneficial in any way. No car with a half decent suspension is going to transfer that much weight to the point that the contact patch is level. Under no circumstances does even a track prepped road car need to run more than 2.5-to-3° of negative camber. _ESPECIALLY_ up front in a FRONT WHEEL DRIVE car!
@bertoj82
@bertoj82 6 лет назад
Dam that sucks, he went from 1st to 4th at the last minute
@twincammike8329
@twincammike8329 5 лет назад
If the race was any longer the the turbo would start to over heat and lose power...then the NA would of taken them....
@spikespiegel4835
@spikespiegel4835 7 лет назад
on 7:08 was he double shifting??
@HS-zm4ow
@HS-zm4ow 6 лет назад
He was having trouble getting into gears
@ericdrisgula3879
@ericdrisgula3879 4 года назад
Looks like the crx woulda won if he didn't have a failing left rear brake line in the car.
@St1m0rroL
@St1m0rroL 7 лет назад
N/A = atmo?
@laclede1355
@laclede1355 4 года назад
means for Naturally Aspirated yes Ca sent le français XD
@terryloweh
@terryloweh 9 лет назад
what on earth is an FCR carb?
@power_of_r6033
@power_of_r6033 8 лет назад
+Terry Low individual throttle body (itb) made by FCR is what i believe they are referring to @1:12
@lutherblissett9070
@lutherblissett9070 8 лет назад
+Terry Low Keihin bike carbs
@devereux6083
@devereux6083 4 года назад
Tsukimonogatari
@Dany2001bro
@Dany2001bro 4 года назад
Who said front wheel can't drift 🚗💨 2:30
@TURE1215
@TURE1215 4 года назад
That was snap oversteer, a drift is when power is sent to the rear wheels, this was a slide
@guillaumechauvet
@guillaumechauvet 8 лет назад
are they saying the crx has a b16b bored or stroked to 2000cc or are they saying it has 2000cc injectors?
@hondahillracing
@hondahillracing 8 лет назад
+redshift_QCrx7 bored or stroked to 2000cc
@mohdshukor9642
@mohdshukor9642 8 лет назад
use fcr carburetor..
@TURE1215
@TURE1215 6 лет назад
CRX would have Won if not miss the shift soo thats the best civic to me ;)
@KBoogiie
@KBoogiie 5 лет назад
Darko Hugo not that, the crx was having brake issues which contributed way more than the shifting issues it was having
@TURE1215
@TURE1215 4 года назад
@@KBoogiie 1 year later, now i got CRX Vtec and Dc2 Type R
@kevysrandomstuff5835
@kevysrandomstuff5835 Год назад
Awaits silly comment that v8s would win in this
@gabelopez5774
@gabelopez5774 9 лет назад
What's n/a?
@cherokn2523
@cherokn2523 8 лет назад
+Gabriel Lopez Naturally Aspirated. No turbo.
@mushy18100
@mushy18100 7 лет назад
Shimmering Death NA means Naturally Aspirated or All Motor (Non Turbo) all bolt ons just fine tuned
@octavioavellaneda4105
@octavioavellaneda4105 Год назад
La mayor ofensa que le podes hacer a un Honda es ponerle un turbo
@fart_cannon
@fart_cannon 3 года назад
chappy lol
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