[ENG CC] Toyota vs. Honda - Integra R, Civic R, S2000, Celica, Altezza Ebisu 1999 

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Remember when Toyota and Honda made exciting cars? Peppridge farm remembers.

That EK9 is a really nice looking hatch.

Scotty Kilmer needs to see this

Watching this makes me want an Integra DC2 so much more.

In the end their all winners. Over 20 years later, you still see each of these model of cars on the street till this day!

This video actually showed me that Celica's are good cars. Keeping up with Type R's in the corner speaks volumes about Toyota's engineering.

Pretty cool race, impressed the celica did as well as it did. looks like they could have shifted the celica a few hundred rpm higher tho

すげぇVTEC積んだホンダ3車がトップ3独占、、 インテグラ速すぎる…

I would have liked to see a SW20 MR2 and maybe even a Prelude in this racce

Of course it's Tsuchiya on the track, so the S2000 is going to do well. But, man.... that is the spirit of the S2000. 7th to 2nd, and fastest overall lap time. Lovely.

i like honda and toyota! my last car was a 93 DA integra that i loved and now i have a 2000 celica gts which is even more fun. but i love pretty much all japanese cars i mean. look at nissan. well, i like their 90s and early 2000s more than their current cars but they are incredible

respecting Toyota and everything, but this battles shows who's the boss. even if the DC2 or the EK9 or the AP1 were slower, just LISTEN to that SOUND. Damn, Honda knows how to make people drool over engines.

インテR速すぎました。ガンさんもうますぎでした。

love these videos!! i watch every single one

Would be nice to see a modern take. To see where the new cars stack.

I love my DB7 Integra. I knew the B18C was a good engine but I wasn't expecting the Type R to do as good as it did. Awesome video.

Man, 3rd gear really screwed those Celicas over. If they had a shorter ratio 3rd gear, the drivers would stay with the bigger cam profile from 6k to redline while going uphill. Might have changed the outcome of the race

hey I watched this as a kid :3 still have the DVD

Should've went all out toyota vs honda since they brought the S2000 too. Bring the Celica GT-4 and Supra for toyota and the NSX for Honda also.

シビックの登りが気持ちいい

この頃のホンダは熱かった…

セリカは今でもたまに見かけますが、アルテッツァはめったに見なくなりましたね。昔はあんなに走ってたのに・・・

I think an mr2 body with a k series engine is an absolute beauty and beast. These two should make a car one day.

しかし，いい時代だった

In terms of FF cars, nobody makes better handling cars that honda. Mini Cooper, peugeot, alfa romeo, renault, and vw gti can be there but competition after competition the R's come on top and have been described as the best.

Wouldn’t expect anything less from a integra R great car great engineering

Thats one thing I always tell People about my celica, what I lacks in grunt it makes up for in cornering. Especially in the real world driving on public roads. On twisty roads there's not many similar level cars that can keep up.

The integ R is always leading in the race in every miroshis's video

i work in motorcycles 20 years, europeans and japanishes bikes. Honda is just the leader....i realy dont know how they make it to build so reliable engines!

these are awesome !

i cant believe miroshi has tons of these street cars races * o * ihuuuuuu

wow it's so beautiful to see these cars together racing reminds me of gran turismo psone :D

Unfortunately for this circuit the gearing on the Celica throws it right into the flat spot of the 2ZZ powerband (5000-6000rpm) in 3rd gear on the big uphill. It doesn't even accelerate on the uphill, just barely hanging on around 5200-5400 rpm.

For your info. During the launching of honda DC2. It rated as the fastest FF car in the world.. however now the title being replaced by Renault Megane RS

The thumbnail is just pure gold.

これはいい！

Love this "gran turismo" replay :D

Love both that's why I have a 2000 Celica GTS and an AP1 s2000

I believe RU-vid recommend this because I own nothing but 90's era Honda's! And I can confirm the hills in a Honda is where u pull away!

I may get flamed but i really think that gen celica shouldve got a gt-four option or have been used in rally. A H22a swap would be nice in that gen celica with better gear ratios

That shift at 10:22 !

Honda makes a better engine assembly but also seems to have a better understanding of suspension set ups. Both Brands i say are very close.

Awesome Video

この時代に生まれたかった...。

If the silver celica driver shifted at 8400 going uphill instead of 8k.. He would have landed in lift instead of 5700rpm

ITR win again :) i have done a good choice ^^ love you my car

I like these translation videos!!

HONDA ❤️

HONDA the best

Gan-San and the DC2 are a perfect match.

Keeping the 2zz in optimum power is tricky in those cars, hats off to the drivers tho!

As a Matrix XRS owner, I do see how the GTS will lose uphill.. My gear ratios are HUGE on the Matrix since its on 17's stock.. 1st gear is 40mph, 2nd is 65mph and 3rd gear is good for 90mph+. Great for highway cruising and pulls, but on a race track it involves a lot of shifting between 2nd and 3rd gear to keep it in lift.

Celica shifts at 7900 and hondas be revving out to 9k. Man, rev that celica to redline! Lift didn't seem to be engaging, either.

Integra Civic And S2000 are just in a league of their own. My goodness!

I have the integra dc civic ek and the is3000 also looking for the 97 celica love honda toyota cars amazing cars!!

I used to have one of these celicas. The ratios are stuffed, it is difficult to consistently stay in Lift(Vtec), especially on an incline, so you bog badly into 3rd because you land outside that power band. Shame because it was a brillant car. My very good friend who had a Type R would always get me buy half a car because it just wouldn't shift like the R. I'd land 3rd at about 5500 which is useless.

最後で黒澤琢弥さんが言う通り、Rでないインテグラとシビックを持ってきてたら、もっと競っていたでしょうね。

Love all these cars, cool race

ショートストローク高回転型エンジンの魅力❤︎

Great battle! Gan-San is like 30 car lengths lead and still running it to the limiter in each gear, Altezza's did pretty well I think considering the weight disadvantage, shame the Celica 3rd gear upshift wasn't in the Big Cam or they'd have been right there with the civic and integra I think

Honda killin it =P

those type r Honda's are amazing .

How steep is that hill that the celicas can't accelerate on? I have a celica and while it's main downfall is definitely the longer gearing, high lift engagement and narrow powerband, IDK how they are getting the car to just straight up bog like that at 5500rpm in 3rd unless that hill is near vertical...

Who's from 2020??

インテグラ速すぎだろｗｗｗｗｗ

Both are good brand. Both produce good automotive.

Glad the Hondas all did the best.

I love Dc2♡♡♡

エンジンの差がはっきり出てますね。セリカのエンジンも悪くないんだけどね。これだけはコンセプトの違いだから仕方がない。

WOW I WAS SUPER IMPRESSED!!!!!!

Are you working on more translated videos to upload? I really hope so

8 years later they partner up with Subaru and give us a new car enthusiast vehicle

i really feel ashamed as s honda guy to read all this hate against toyota. 😅

i've always wondering did they turn on the a/c while racing?

The Celica SS-IIs come with a 2ZZ-ge or did they have a different engine?

Celica gear ratios are killing it. Rpms dropping too much each shift

Gan-san's driving is so beast. anyone know his real name?

Why 2 celicas and altezza though? I think it would be nice for an mr2 to be there instead

Would liked to have seen Tsuchiya driving one of the Celica’s instead of the S2000! Nakaya should have had the FTO!

Honda will and always be the Boss. Honda is the way to go

The extra weight of the Altezza really shows. Same hp as the Type R but an extra 400lbs

Oh hell yeah, at the beginning i bet for the Integra and the EK9 and they really finished on the top. The S2000 passed the EK9 and finished 2nd, but at least the Civic finished 3th with is also the top. Right? ...Right?

S 20000 ❤️❤️🥰😍

I can see why Integras were stolen so often.

This video makes me miss my Integra 😥🏎💨

are these standard road cars or have they got some mods done to go on track? if standard then thats amazing.

全部高回転型エンジンの車なだけにスタート加速の音の響きパネェ・・・ｗ

1:56 its teh drift king

I love the Celica SS, just hope that Toyota could give it a more powerful engine or fit a turbocharger...

The GT-S has 180hp in the US and 190hp overseas. Mine is a 2000 year model and fuel cut off is at about 8400 rpms. If you rev to about 8200, you stay in the power band with no issues or dead spots. I've never raced a Type R, but I think it would be closer than this. The 2zz is dead at lower rpms. Not much there. It's happy above 6000 rpms and rewards you if you drive it right. Also has a very restrictive exhaust from the factory which doesn't help. Mine is at 240,000 miles on original engine with nothing but suspension, intake, and exhaust. Burns no oil and has no issues at all. VVTLI still pulls hard and it corners well.

VTEC Revs the heart :) Honda All the way

simple toyota makes people movers and honda makes race cars for road

problem is that the celicas need to clutch kick a couple times to keep the revs up in the next gear. thats why revs drop. or keep your foot on the gas double clutch quick. clutch in. to nuetral. the clutch again. gear in. with gas still to the floor. requires quickness and precise shifting or your grinding gears...

I love both my Honda’s and Toyota’s but I think Honda has more experience and dedication to performance driving. Now off roading, Toyota all day

I know these guys are pro's and I love BMi videos have been watching them since I found out about them in the early 2000's. But Akihiko didn't know how to drive that celica. On these engine's you must kiss the rev limiter at around 8300 rpm's for a fraction of a second so the next gear stays above 6000 rpm's where the "Lift" point is at or the small to large cam lobe change over is. (This is toyota's "v-tec") @ 7:20 you can see he doesn't even rev it to 8,000 rpm's and the next shift drops below 6000, you can even hear the engines tone change when it switches back to the small cam. So if he was changing gear like this every time of course he was going to have cars creep by him throughout the race. But in his defense its known to be pretty difficult to stay in the 2zz's sweet spot above 6000 rpm's at all times. If you shift too late your bouncing of the limiter and loose speed if you shift too early you fall out of the big cam lobe and loose speed. But if you get it right you get a strong pull in the next gear. It's fun when you get it right.

Honda

This video shows why I bough a DC-2 GSR in '96 - VTEC's rule!

the Integra jump ahead soon fast and S2000 and Civic have lost time with the Celicas, Altezzas have no chances... Nice to see that's stuff, reminds me old time of Gran Turismo 2 in PS1 PS: I love JDM cars!! respect from Brazil

poor gearing kills the celicas. though in a straight line they are better than non-type R vtec engines. They should have compared these celicas to Si's its a much better comparison.