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@ZenCieh
@ZenCieh 3 года назад
こういう分析の動画あげるの初めてなので、なんか間違っているかもしれません。あとこの比較では納刀時のゲージ回復にかかる時間など色々考慮していないこともあるので、参考程度にお願いします。 It's the first time I did an analysis video like this, and there might be some mistakes. Also, as I mentioned in the description, this comparison does not take some things into account(e.g. Gauge regeneration while unsheathed, length of time you need to fill the gauge while sheathed, etc.). So don't take the result too serious.
@judaulul
@judaulul 3 года назад
You did great, this clears out my curiousity about frostcraft and fatalis set for SNS. But does the old Safi frostcraft can match the fatalis? Back then, when its still 3 velkhana + 2 raging brachy, if i remember correctly we have access to agitator 7 but not with attack boost 7, considering fatalis 2 piece (the chest and waist piece to be exact) give you more points in wex and crit eye, now it can utilize attack boost 7. I mean the weapon raw itself are far off though i think it can keep up with the extra attack boost 7. I dont know though, never tried to calculate it. Great vid anyway! Cheers!
@seanxi
@seanxi 3 года назад
@@judaulul I've been trying these 2 sets for a while now. FC fatalis is much stronger than FC safi, last hit on PR can go up tp 625-650 as compare to 525+_ HOWEVER from my experience it all comes down to can you always hit the weak spots, with safi FC you get 70% for hitting none tenderized spots but only 55% for Fatalis. As you know the strongest skill in this game is critical up, making our critical strike much stronger than regular ones. my friend had a damage calculation mod, when Im on fatalis FC, im very inconsistent, I can feel the 85% (thats 85 with wex). Even with Safi FC, I almost only lose to maxed out (full safi set n resentment) DB, bow, n near perfect LS (this guy foresight n iai spirit everything). Of course, if you can Walts around the monster's head like zen all the time, none of what I said matters. 85% is plenty, at most 1 hit on your PF won't crit. n u see BIG numbers.
@Ganondurk
@Ganondurk 3 года назад
You've filled the void that JiJinx & TunaTaco left in my heart. I can't ask for more than that.
@Drischa
@Drischa 3 года назад
Dude this video is really good! very informative yet really concise. You got the information across in a clear way. I'd love to see more like this. Oh and your voice is really nice!
@Drischa
@Drischa 3 года назад
By the way, it is possible to kill before escaton, see Hank who did it with old frostcraft set! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zIKw46qmcOM.html
@Obi_Dun
@Obi_Dun 3 года назад
Love the educational and informative format of these videos of yours, keep up the great work!
@Kumamorihato
@Kumamorihato 3 года назад
非常に参考になりました 冰気思ったより期待値高かったので知れてよかったです タイム狙うときの冰気、快適ドラゴンって感じで使い分けできていいですね
@MrCharly780
@MrCharly780 3 года назад
Zen coming here to spit out the math, very appreciated.
@user-xd2xz3fj7r
@user-xd2xz3fj7r 3 года назад
こういうのほんと助かります!さすがZen先生
@user-im7ii1hr4z
@user-im7ii1hr4z 3 года назад
分析お疲れ様です。参考になりました。 このラララドラ装備体力増強無いからマジでプロハン向けって感じがしますね。TAするならこのラララドラ、快適さを求めたりガチで集中してやらない時とかはドラゴン装備になるのかな🤔
@metallikalm4336
@metallikalm4336 3 года назад
どっちかと言うと、新冰気に匠紫ゲージと最大火力スキルが可能だよ、という動画でしょうか 期待値がまんま1.2倍ですし 逆に挑戦or火事場極意なし、生存なしで良いならどの武器も冰気可能では?、と言えるかもですね
@JaviviBass91
@JaviviBass91 3 года назад
Thank you very much for the explanation! ^^
@ChanceTheWind
@ChanceTheWind 3 года назад
Probably negligible using Fatalis SnS, but FS also comes with Crit Element! I'd imagine it to be really strong if you use an ice weapon (with the free 6 levels of Ice Attack).
@tsumiki0649
@tsumiki0649 3 года назад
冰気白ゲージとミラ紫ゲージを比較するなら、FC1-3の数値をそれぞれ1/1.05すればよいんですかね? 今回は物理部分のみにフォーカスされてますが、冰気が属性部分にも補正かかること考慮したらさらに冰気が優位性高いことになりますね。特にミラ相手ならさらに抜刀してから殴れる回数が増えそう。冰気つよい
@Ganondurk
@Ganondurk 3 года назад
Of course there is some consideration to be done regarding the length of time you spend sheathed, as frostcraft doesn't fill back up instantly. If you do 41 hits with your weapon unsheathed, and then sheathe only long enough to get back to level 2, then you wont be getting the same EFR with your next 41 hits.
@Kensuke0987
@Kensuke0987 3 года назад
I think for the scope of that table, it only considers the EFR for the time you have your weapon unsheathed and starting with your FC gauge at full. With 41 hits, it's safe to say that you could probably unsheathe into a PR, and then later slinger burst into another PR a moment later without sheathing, and still have a higher EFR. I think what needs to be really taken into consideration isn't FC itself but the conditional skills that the EFR value is based on. You probably can't have Coalescence activated all the time or at all against some monsters for example. You also have to give up Maximum Might. Another thing to consider is that you don't have True Razor Sharp and you might hit white sharpness sooner.
@conqproj
@conqproj 3 года назад
Fantastic as always Zen!
@user-yz2sq2xc4c
@user-yz2sq2xc4c 3 года назад
投稿お疲れ様です! こういう雑な体感ではない分析されたZenさんの動画いつも面白いです、! ラヴィγを用いると冰気錬成は3まで必ずついて、発動する場面が少ないモンスターだとEFRの通りにならない(まぁ攻撃力の差はたった6ですが)だとか、会心の発動するタイミングだとか、冰気錬成の3段階中にJRの最終段まで当てられる場面は多くはない、だとかありますけど、それを差し引いても火力は勝る場面が多そうですね、、!すごく試したくなりました(•᎑•) アルバに出てるダメージは昔の火事場+冰気に届きはしないものの近いようなダメージに見えて興奮しています!笑
@aldygunawan5905
@aldygunawan5905 3 года назад
Thanks so much Zen. Btw, I've recreated the build (with the latent power one) on honey hunter, but can't barely reach 100% affinity. What did I miss?
@anaara7866
@anaara7866 3 года назад
カブカカブの時点で火力面ではある程度天井だったので ドラゴン装備で劇的にあがりはしないですよね。 氷気は計算式的に基礎攻撃力やカスタム強化、挑戦者フルチャだけでなく回避の装衣やはげましホルンを 適用した後の数値に乗算の補正がかかるのが強みだと思います。
@nelldrakebane
@nelldrakebane 3 года назад
こういう詳細考察、大好きです、良いですね。 特に、Frost craftは動画内でも解説されている通り、切る度にゲージ減少するので、「初め強いけど、結局フェイタリス装備のMaintenance積んだ時との与ダメとか、どーなんだろ?」と疑問を持っていました。 私の疑問は晴れていないのですが、SnSで41 hitsくらいでフェイタリス装備のEfRとなるので、「ATKに関しては差は歴然だなあ」と思わされました。
@SimKadesh
@SimKadesh 3 года назад
Hi Zen, very nice video thank you. I would like your opinion about elemental Frostcraft SnS, now we have the Velkhana gamma armor. The taroth slicer "fire" for example can reach 1050 (1100) fire element now (without coalescence level 3). That is insane.
@user-rw1nr7ro3n
@user-rw1nr7ro3n 3 года назад
片手剣ぶっ壊れちまった でもアイスボーンもこれで見納めかなぁ。もうアプデないんだよな...
@Shykeful
@Shykeful 3 года назад
Appreciate the work! Arigatou!
@srn0ker251
@srn0ker251 3 года назад
ドラゴ装備で火力もりもりのほうが強いと思ってたけど、期待値だけなら冰気のほうが高いのか。チケット集めてきます。
@Fluffehbunnehh
@Fluffehbunnehh 3 года назад
Have you ever tried FC Longsword for the fun of it? Also, great vid.
@user-er4tx9fi5u
@user-er4tx9fi5u 3 года назад
片手剣で渾身の採用はどう思いますか?
@Kirokill1
@Kirokill1 3 года назад
Great vid bro. Does frostcraft ice beat full safi ice for Alatreon for example?
@MarineKingPride
@MarineKingPride 3 года назад
I am almost certain that it does. Elemental scales with frostcraft, moreover, you get free ice elements from the armor.
@FurtiveCutless
@FurtiveCutless 3 года назад
In terms of sheer damage you're still better off running the Fatalis SnS. If you want to also consistently get the elemental topple you're best off with Fatalis waist and Velkhana Y everywhere else. Use the Frostfang SnS for this setup and either run Protective Polish or Handicraft for sharpness management. Full Safi and Kjarr Stream doesn't come anywhere close to that setup, lacking in both efR and efE. And that's when running no health augment and full resentment. Even when the Frostcraft build doesn't have Coalescence active (which is really easy against Alatreon) it's just straight up stronger. Edit: This is for fire active Alatreon, of course.
@Kirokill1
@Kirokill1 3 года назад
@@FurtiveCutless Great news especially since Kulve’s rng doesn’t favour me. I know what stuff Im updating
@TOBI-vw5vc
@TOBI-vw5vc 3 года назад
Would it be better to run 3 piece velkhana gamma with a Safi SnS that has 1 velkhana essence? Or is 4pc Velk with fatalis much better? If 4pc Velk is better I gotta get farming again ;-;
@TataeRider
@TataeRider 3 года назад
fatalis has so much more raw so its better
@TOBI-vw5vc
@TOBI-vw5vc 3 года назад
@@TataeRider ah damn it. Thanks though
@Drischa
@Drischa 3 года назад
Fatalis has more raw than the safi sns, more than you can gain through swapping pieces. Fatalis also has purple sharpness, which you would have to drop damage awakens on safi to get
@TOBI-vw5vc
@TOBI-vw5vc 3 года назад
@@Drischa i see..... was just wondering since I already have an sns set with velk awakening on it and only 3 pieces of velk gamma armour atm
@ZenCieh
@ZenCieh 3 года назад
Yup fatalis weapon is better. Its raw is too strong and we can fully cap put damage skills even with 4pc Velk, so swapping 1 pieces won't affect that much.
@PhatRagnar
@PhatRagnar 3 года назад
Is elemental frostcraft effective for sns?
@aamaagii
@aamaagii 3 года назад
I think safi armor is better for elemental
@ponponponpon09
@ponponponpon09 3 года назад
冰気と継承発動させるために未だに覚醒武器使ってるわ
@user-xk4eo9vr3w
@user-xk4eo9vr3w 3 года назад
同じく笑 挑戦者の極意は欲しいですよね笑
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