Engine That Is Better Than 2JZ ! 

.....M50. * Uses pic of M54*

More accurate would be german 1jz, both are 2.5 litre I6

M54b30 with a m50 intake manifold swap 🤌 you get your 3.0L and you get that *perfect* flow, toss bigger injectors and a good cam into the mix and your having fun N/A .. go boosted and add rods and pistons along with a standalone and ouuu buddeh!

Ever heard of the 4.0 turbo online 6 from Australia? The mighty Barra!

The M50 and M60 Both those are free insane and I've tested both to extreme limits and they just keep on going

I think you forgot to mention the BMW M5 E34 with a 1000 hp 💀💀💀

Maf sensor can be rebuilt, there's a company in Germany that does them. Saves a lot of headache.

NO NO NO, M104 and OM606 is the true German 2JZ engines 😎👌

Turkish people discovered this and it is estimated that M50 turbo has been used since 2000.

M54 bmw and M104 Mercedes haven't love, but are very good engines.

"The engine is better because it is cheaper", ok, great start guys ! The 2Jz strongpoint is it is strong. Thats basically a tractor engine. It is bulky, heavy, and it can take a beating. Thats about it. And by "beating", i mean getting over 2000hp out of it. Not in stock form of course, but it will easily take 600-700hp just adding more boost. and most importantly, the transmission will take it too.

JAPAN ❤all the way,if you want a nice life with no headaches

Cant you use the Block of M50 and the other Parts M52 with 2.8l?

The m104 is the actual German 2jz because toyota copied it to make the 2jz. Not this peace

M54👑

Great Video !

the only german inline 6 that can actually be called a "german 2jz" is the M104

Man i got a fuckin' m52b25 with double vanos and to soft boost it you are obligated to have forged bottom of the engine so i just preffer to just swap it to b28 and have factory 200hp then tune it into good spec

Bro about the make Supra kids cry

I got the n54 right now in my 335is. I'm definitely getting a b58 when the time is right

That's M54

M50b25

N54 owners crying in limp mode

I see the BMW guys are getting their daily recommended amount of copium lol

m104 is what the Japanese copied from the Germans

Why m50 and not m54?

The Australian 2jz is better 😉

Barra.

I need a trigger warning before you play the BMW gong

dude, is this narated by AI?

M54b30 turbo real german 2jz

Availability yeah 2024 not so much

just LS swap it

dog learn....m104 3.2 is the real german 2jz....

video without a clue.

you just prove it its just another fragille trash from BMW 😂🤣 you will be waste same money on it

BMW lol

just buy a K24A2 Honda motor and you can make 1000hp easy

first things first this channel knows nothing about bmws, your tank bursts you turn off the car and drive home slowly and stop for cooling down the engine, you can park the car and change the tank in the matter of minutes and put in new coolant and drive home, the engine it self cannot handle more then 280-340hp without blowing up when boosted unless rebuilt, for the price of parts and sending the m50 to a machine shop for rebuilding i have a 2jz already installed in the car for that money and even better for 1 quarter of that money you can have a LS swap 5.3 with 600hp like i have aswell.... lmfao , nothing about this engine is the same as 2jz i have several of both, oh and btw unplug your maf and drive home, been driving for 2 months now, and yes they available everywere including amazon, can i have your sources of information please ? and no the coilpacks are not frequent failure items and part of maintenance as would be in 99 percent of engines you would see, i have 6 M50s on the lot with stock coils from the factory still running fine. i got another one in the yard that is 350k km and hasnt had a oilchange since 250k km no maintainance what so ever we use it as the yard car again another bogus claim of yours.... you can have a stock 2jz without having to open it up that can handle more power for the price of a m50 rebuilt with similar parts that a 2jz already has from factory for the same price,

😂👎

this is worse than 2jz in every conceivable way except price

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2jz stock hold over 1000hp not like bmw's 600hp. btw good engine but not as toyota's dont tell bullshits plz

M104 its much better

just with german reliability ... so not really

what is this dribble... all your criticisms of the engine are due to poor maintenance. Now, everyone knows the australian ford barra is king.

B58 is the modern 2JZ.

It's funny how mecedes fanboys everywhere push the M104 which is simply inferior to the M50 or M54

N54 was the German 2jz , 700whp was achievable on stock internals

Proudly owner of 5x e34- three M50b25s, one b20 and diesel 525tds 😊 daily gonna get superchargered soon

The 2JZ is overrated as fuck anyway. It's a mediocre, heavy block that can be made to good power levels if you throw lots of money at it. It's only really popular because of the fast and furious.

ai voice over talking about car stuff is lowkey S tier

Dont you reveal our secrets man!

I had written a long ass post explaining the pros and cons of both motors but i decided to delete all that shit cause its mostly going to be clueless idiots that play Forza and watch Supra videos commenting on this anyway so why bother

I expected the B58...

If you want the diesel 2jz then theres the mercedes om606 and bmw m57. Both these engines rev as high as gasoline ones and theyre extremely reliable.

This edit is gold😂

M50, shows m54 Only 2.5 liters, then explain the m52b28 and m54b30

Thankyou for the content! Great video

dude cmon we could have gatekept it from all the 2j kids it could have been great

A lot of engines are better than 2jz

The Australian Barra is better t

Barra is better than all of them.

Are we forgetting the b58 now?

M54 3.0L with European Intake Manifold > M50 2.5L

It just isn't. It's a different option, and works for someone who can't afford or don't want a 2JZ, but it doesn't replace it nor is it better. I know this because I personally DD a car with an all forged 3.0 stroker turbo M50, which I did instead of a 2JZ swap because it was easier and cheaper to build my new forged M50 than buy a than a used 2JZ and rebuild it then fabricate the manifolds, mounts, and adapter plate to put it in my E34. Stock for stock, M50s are definitely weaker than a GTE and can't rev as high safely without oil pump shaft and chain tensioner. While an M50 is lighter, and you can build a new forged stroker M50 for the price of a used 2JZ, there are things in the 2JZ's favor. Believe it or nor, 2JZ aftermarket is cheaper in some cases. A set of Schrick 264/256 cams for an M50 are $1,400, a set of BC 264 cams for a 2JZ: $885. Used S52 cams cost as much as a set of new BC cams for a 2JZ, other cams like M54B30 and M50NV are cheaper but are only a mild upgrade. If you want to build a 3.0 or 3.2 M50 stroker to match 2JZ displacement and plan on revving high, plan on it being pretty damn expensive. 89.6mm M54/S52 cranks are pretty cheap and easy enough to find, but as the S52 and M54 guys found out a decade or more, it tends to have more torsional vibration issues than the 2.8 and 2.5 cranks. You're going to need to add the relatively cheap; an upgraded oil pump and oil pump chain tensioner, and the expensive; an ATI damper ($950 if you want to keep your AC pulley), and an upgraded valvetrain. Unlike a 2JZ which will do 7,500 fine with only springs an M50 needs retainers, keepers, springs, and should get lighter M54 lifters to rev that high reliably and take advantage of those cams. Certain stock keeper/retainer combos can't be trusted at sustained high revs. In addition, either way you're troubled by transmission choices. ZF310/320s are cheaper than supra 6 speeds, but they have a positively stupid 1:1 5th gear, and an awful gear split. If you have a big ol' turbo on a car with a ZF310, you're going to be disappointed to find that you drop below peak torque with every shift until you get to 4th or 5th. Additionally, M50 VANOS is a crude, on-off system unlike VVTI. And yes, you DO want VVT, especially on a laggy setup. It helps A LOT with the mid range. Additionally, M50 turbo manifolds leave something to be desired. Almost all options are not equal length which does hurt power a little and sounds kind of odd, and the leaned over M50 is harder to fit a big turbo (like my BW S366) next to than a vertical 2JZ. Also, if you want to add an oil cooler (you need one if you're tracking or drifting) it is a pain in the ass with an M50, requiring either the inconvenient and expensive oil filter housing cap adapter or an aftermarket filter housing, both of which add a nice few hundred dollars to what is cheaper to do to a 2JZ. Other more minor issues are that M50 valve covers are a pain in the ass to get to seal right and are magnesium so good luck getting one powder coated well, M50 ignition coils are more limited in capability and harder to upgrade, and OEM and aftermarket 2JZ intake manifolds are often superior and more compact vs M50 intake manifolds.

I had that in my 92 525i 5-speed manual. That car was incredible. I beat the living snot out of it. And you're right about the cooling system the only thing that ever left me stranded on it at only one time

Yes, got to replace those plastic parts; make sure head bolts do not loosen up as first repair! Just retorque and good to go! Also front fans have shrouds which blocks airflow when fan stops! Catalysts can get clogged and blow thru head gasket; soak overnight in solved and rinse! Coil packs go bad easily! Good luck, OMG!

Only problem is that m50 is smaller than 2jz, not comparing capacity but block size itself. Propably closest engine to 2jz would be bmw s30b36 or at least m30b30 from e34/e32 and mercedes m104

300hp with a 0.6bar turbo? 😂😂😂😂 On 1.8 2zz-fe that's 4-in line i get 271 on stock internals 😂😂😂😂 and at 1.2, with stock interlans cuz it's not a shitty bmw to blow up i get 360HP 😂 if we speak about forged internals, then we already go into another league, and not many that comments even know how hard is to rebuild an engine 😂

I'm a car fan and I've never dreamed of the 2JZ! Diesel engines is where it's at, these gasoline engines are laughable in comparison.

What do you think about 1.8 20v turbo? For example... AGU?

Ok cool, but I live in Australia, and own a turbo barra. We are putting 87 psi in to them and getting 3500 hp.

Been saying this for years hopefully no one catches on and prices stay low and examples stay a plenty. Hate the inflation of clout.

I prefer to have a non turbo for daily longterm use. I think an M54 3.0 with mods is capable of 250 bhp / 225 lb.ft. and average 25mpg. I think 500 bhp m54 is pointless as it will have frequent problems. My M54s are stock, perform well and are reliable.

you can get worse engine for lower price!? whaaat!? I couldn't figure that out by myself....😅

where do i start Engines that are as good or better than 2jz Barra Intech 4.0 All Performance versions of LS v8s RB26 and 25 1jz Multiple BMW 6 cylinders id also argue a k20 head on a k24 block with a big turbo is pretty close to I be there's more aswell if anyone else wants to state them

You forgot that after 1000hp you lose engine block like every 30th 1/4mile. 2JZ doesn't brake block.... bullshit video. Good engine, but not Godlike. Friend of mine broke like 6pcs 3.5L BMW engines blocks just cracked, bmw block should be changed after 900hp to billet if you want durable engine. Best BMW turbo engine is 2.8L it can handle like 700-800hp with long term. 2JZ can handle it up to 1500hp with stock block.

You gotta gatekeep 😮we need the m50 for low

600hp on stock internals? Where was that in the video?😅

German 2jz from m104 mercedes benz

Wouldn't it be more of a "German 1JZ" cause both have no turbo and are straight 6s

why you describing engine accessories that have nothing to do with the engine it self, you do realize other models of bmws have the same accessories mounted to different engines lol

om606 is diesel 2jz

I like how people just don't give any attention to the Volvo B6294T which is literally capable of 700whp bone stock, as well as having dual VVT and costing about as much as a couple drinks at the bar. Pretty easy to work on as well and the under-square layout (83x90 bore/stroke) and VVT gives it a nice and beefy low-end. If you want a bit more reliability, throw in Chinesium rods, shim the cylinders and chamfer the rod journals on the crank.

Bmw engines need meticulous care. Difficult to repair and oil eaters. Quite fun in pro hands though

Nowadays it is cheaper to buy a b58 instead of a 2jz.

Only i6 better than a 2jz in the tuner world in my opinion is a ford barra

Dont forget the s54

2JZ can spin very high for a Inline 6 because it got big diameter journals on the crankshaft. I am a BMW fan and it hurts me to say this.

M54b30 is more like the 2jz

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Them shits will blew up too im on my 3rd one 😭😭😭😭

S38b38 its german 2jz,m30b35 is 1jz

No....!!! 2.9 vr6 is a better option

Japanese Technology at its best ❤

M104 is the only true German 2JZ

VW wr6 it's much better

M50 is very unreliable

M113 better than 2jz gte