Its also funny that appalachia and northern england have comparable social problems now, and they are geologically the same. The mountains, the coal etc are the same. Really speaks to the importance of material conditions.
*Geographically And I'd argue against that. It's always a mix of geography, culture, and circumstance. Japan has even worse geography (mountainous, and yes they had coal, they didn't industrialize through magic) yet they've created a society that has markedly better material conditions for the vast majority of its people.
@@crazyfutureradio Why are you laughing at me?? I didn't claim that, the guy above me did. All I said was "it's not just geography, Japan has mountains too and look at them"
What op talking about is the fact that Appalachian mountain range and Scottish Highlands are part of a Pangea mountain range. And how geology (natural resources) could effect our society (part of material conditions that made us).
Lmao Hassan is a streamer she’s used to it I think she just thinks daddy is working, oompa had newish dogs when his girlfriend moved in with him and it was soooo hilarious any time he would get remotely animated when recording videos the like 2 - 3 Dogs would start yapping with excitement or maybe concern but they would do it all at once 😅😂
Nothing, shes a dog. Youre anthropomorphizing human sentience in a dog. If you said a cat, I might agree, but everyone including my dog knows theres nothing but raw instinct going on in their walnut brain.😂
The diversity take is a bit naive, London is diverse, but places like Birmingham, Manchester, Bradford, Leeds, Liverpool, they're all very diverse cities. Just saying north south doesn't make sense.
I live in one of the most diverse cities in England. It’s in the midlands. Hasan really doesn’t know enough about the rest of England except London and finance/ politics bros. That’s why ppl were offended. Material conditions for even poor families are mostly ok, clean water, we pay for, schools, hospitals etc. what’s missing is the debt factor, a lot of people are in debt, a lot of people live beyond their means, a lot of people struggle at the end of the month, most families have less than £1k in savings so if something unexpected happens they need to borrow more. As a low income family we have a nice home, food and pay bills, it’s not that bad. I think it might be for those Islamophobic rioting thugs though. Some people’s material conditions are much worse than others. Poverty is expensive and so stressful they can’t even think well.
In general I agree that the UK is getting much poorer outside of London but Hasan makes us out to be 3rd world and dismisses anyone (even people that live here) that says otherwise. I am a poor musician living in one of the most deprived areas of the UK and everyone here has running water that is drinkable straight from the tap, central heating in winter, fibre optic internet to the majority of houses and all most households have cars that are
Chatter is right, the North is more diverse than the South if you exclude London. I think the terminology gets a bit messy - "The Greater London Area" accounts for a decent part of 'The South', but the upper-middle classes live is outside of London because the city is dirty and they like their quiet, leafy, English towns which are very white and very middle class. We call that bit "Middle England" and it's where the people live who went to private school, made a fat buck in their 20's in the city and then semi retired as a self employed professional in a quiet area by the time they hit 40 - think "Greenwich, Conneticut" in American terms. We don't have cities the size of US cities, so while we do *have* suburbs which are kinda middle class, the upper-middle classes migrate out to small towns with a good transport links to a major city- counties like East Sussex, Buckinghamshire, Surrey, Hertfordshire. They like to drive Land Rovers and pretend they are lords of the manor because they live surrounded by farm land and forest. Also, the rest of the South is like old Victorian era (pre flight) holiday destination towns which basically went broke once cheap flights became a thing in the 80's and 90's. The North is very diverse because the industry attracted a lot of immigration all the way through the 20th century and in large waves, Italians, Poles, Caribbean (the Windrush generation in the 50's) and there was also alot of ship building and dock work in the North - these days the UK's busiest dockland is just outside of London. Again, the changing infrastructure, moving away from mass transit by river or rail moving to trucks re-shaped the country. London does have a very diverse population, but just outside of London, it gets very, very white again until you get to Birmingham or Bradford in the North where the diversity comes back in areas where there used to be jobs and industry.
As an American of English parents, who has spent about a quarter of my life in the UK, I can honestly say that the class divide there is the real problem, it is truly disturbing.
@@e-naa4118 I think we’re just more honest about class, it is a problem, but Americans get very idealistic about being the only free country in the world, but the uk doesn’t allow so many people to get so extremely rich or so extremely poor as America does, in fact I think because Americans act like they’re all equal they really delude themselves about how nepotistic and elitist their upper class is, posh Americans are definitely a thing, they certainly have their own special accents
@@kxngseaan9978 i mean you can look at the demographics from the census, the south is the whitest place in the country, the wealthiest and the highest proportion of tory voters
i live in the uk and honestly the vast vast majority of people are against these riots obviously a lot of people are rioting but its a small minority of the country i think
Same I am from up north and I’m white and have Muslim friends and work colleagues and attended the anti far right marches with them and it’s a shame that the horrible minority of far right thugs have made the rest of the world think our country is ! And only trough unity and anti far right peaceful protest can we show them we are not !!!
The vast majority keep quiet and ignored the problem. See where that got you? If you have a problem with the far right riots now, y’all should have stood up to the bullies long ago. Remember this next time you or anyone else you see try to lecture us on civility politics and “free speech”. People have been assaulted thanks to that “free speech”
You're not wrong, but think of the following. What these rioters are saying is the exact same rhetoric as Reform UK. The party that got 14.3% of the electorate just now. A big chunk of your country has the exact same views as the rioters. Ideology wise, it's not a small minority at all.
I find it so abrasive to listen to a monologue with stitched together gaps when he swears.. I'd rather hear a beep rather than thinking my brain just glitched forward every 2 minutes
"The UK is a poor country, it's GDP per capita is lower than Canada" is a strange argument for me. Is Canada the cutoff or something? Can anyone explain?
Bro, as a londoner, no disrespect and I am largely in agreement with your general views, but just know that you sound really ignorant to anyone from the uk when when you discuss the uk
He is ignorant. The ignorance is exaggerated because he hates the UK because of history. So any chance he can make fun of it he will. But also remember his ignorance comes from not really knowing alot. He never fact checks, he gets all his "facts" from a couple websites and just runs with it and he's been caught out MULTIPLE times based on actual REAL journalism that he has bad and false takes.
Yeah saying that the UK is poorer than some areas of Italy is wild, he doesn't have a clear idea, but he's still more knowledgeable than most Americans I'd say (maybe it has do with the fact that he's Turkish and not american lol)
Hasan that was a terrible attempt at a Geordie accent lool, saddest part about all this is, its more normal than you think. Americans think all of the UK is London & now the world got to see the true face of England. A lot of cities in Northern England are not just neglected, not just abandoned , but targeted because we dont vote conservative, targeted by Austerity and this is the result. When ever Conservatives get in power they do the same thing, sell off assets held by the country for an under valued price, (The Royal Mail, The Train Lines, The Minning Industry, The Shipping & Docking industry which was sold off by Thatcher and now they want to sell the NHS) they also have turned Apprenticeship schemes into cheap labour programmes & making people work for their welfare and every time the Conservatives get in power the Economy shrinks. btw The North of the UK is very Diverse but there are non diverse area's (they marginalise people to "Ethnic Enclaves") ..... its not that the Conservatives dont value a social safety net, its more that they are anti social safety net (btw im from Liverpool)
Hassan is 100% right. But this has been an ongoing issue in Western Europe for as long as I can remember. I grew up in Amsterdam, I'm a white Dutch guy. My neighborhood was mostly Turkish, Marrocan and people from former colonies. Despite all the issues that came with the poverty in my neighbouhood, I always voted for a social Liberal politician and most people in the cities vote left and center parties. Our far right antiislamic party is very big though and a lot of their voters are people from poorer towns around the country who never met the people they're so scared off. These parties and "influencers" literally create enemies and give the poorly educated something to blame their shitty conditions on. Of course their solution is "de-islamization of society", which is an insane impossible project and unconstitutional. This hateful rethoric also creates more extremism and isolation with 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants. It's scary how even the people from an otherwise rather prosperous country are so easy to influence.
Patriotism is a quiet thing in the UK. You see it when we sing our anthems. You see it in the pride and understanding of our history. You see it on the streets and in communities after civil unrest or terrorist attacks. So when I see those far right nazi thugs fly the Cross of Saint George, a flag that has represented the Kingdom of England for over 800 years, it fills me with such disgust.
Same ,its so easy to stir up hatered in England when we have brown politacians calling peace marches hate marches..Cruella and Sunak started all this .
"Kingdom of England" ... bruh, the Kingdom of England hasn't existed since before the USA has existed, when the acts of the union were passed in 1706 and United Kingdom of Great Britain superceded it. The St Georges cross was bought by The City of London in 1190 to allow safe passage of their merchant vessels through the Mediterranean. Like, I understand the semiotics that underly these symbols of nationalism and patriotism but... the St Georges Cross is the flag of a man born in Turkey, who was ethnic Greek, fought for the Italians, venerated by the Vatican, purchased from the Genoese for the direct financial benefit of the mercantile class. It's such an odd thing to venerate, except to say that it's pretty old
@@MexicanSoapOperasI’d say fighting fascists which ultimately lead to the bankruptcy of the empire is a pretty huge thing to be proud of.. but that’s just me I guess
@@jackdonnelly4166or ending slavery as an open, acceptable thing that nations just did but hey sure why should I feel good about my nations 1000 years of history because absolutely none of it can be good at all, totally.
@@SixOneNiner23 Sure, I'm not blaming the migrants for what's happening- they left (for the most part) because their home countries where bombed by the very countries they're fleeing to. That being said, I sympathize with the locals, as regressive as their views may be, because that same powerful + wealthy class benefits from an influx of migrants, and it's making the locals' material conditions worsen. Their anger isn't born out of literally nothing, there's a kernel of truth. And it should be addressed.
@@LancesArmorStriking the problem is AI and robotics is coming for those jobs, it’s the reason behind most the chaos and the real reason Twitter was used to set many people up. Funny Muskrat has a hand in all of it.
yeah, nobody is saying that here. stop being a condescending prick and acting like every other western country doesn't have this kind of white supremacy problem too
so the other day, I gave him really GOOD links to Muslims organizing & Muslim channels who were reporting at the scenes instead he ignorings them or refuse to watch them, it's crazy, this vid was terrible coverage.
As someone who lives in Ireland and where the same issue is unfolding, the situation is complex but mostly people are pissed because governments are letting "asylum seekers" enter the country, and get free housing, free money and even though they are not supposed to work while they get those benefits, they do so and there are not enough homes for all of us sadly. many homeless both national and not, quite sad and then add the recent event of the little girls , so horrific, of course people would say dumb stuff but in the core people want solutions and order from the government I think( of course some idiots will sum up to the group)
You know that's disinformation. People seeking asylum as housed and that's . Rather than criticise them, why aren't you questioning why hospitals are not staffed, why were houses not built and why classes sizes are too big?
This is the main argument but it gets lost due to a small minority going to the extreme and making it racial. News media isn’t helping with some government officials egging the violence on by mis informing the public about the background of the murderer of the 3 girls.
I live in the North Pennines in a tiny remote village, my home town is a fifteen minute drive. There is literally no crime or identity politics where I live, why would I want to leave?
We need far more solidarity then we currently have but I do not think we can find it without a very clear plan which explains what we can accomplish once we come together in solidarity. Once people see a plan which leads to results which will improve their lives tremendously, they can see why we need to come together.
@@Mooray27in the southern US. Pregnancy at 16-17 is super common. Our highschools always have 10 pregnant teenagers running around. 28 is insanely old from our perspective here. Not to say underage is girls being pregnant is not horrible… That’s a whole other conversation. But across the whole US kids at 28 would be seen as late in the game.
@@randymarsh8974 the average woman is the USA has her first baby at 27 and a half, so there’s that. More importantly your point was the opposite of what the comment I replied to said and was, unfortunately, totally irrelevant.
What is with this take some of you have? Do you really think that the people affected by mass immigration are the ones who were colonising hundreds of years ago? 😂
Only half way through but yet to hear mention of English exceptionism. Britain had a huge empire, we sailed everywhere subjugating brown and black people. This has lead to generations of English people thinking they are better than everyone else- a delusion that persists among many today.
Is England poor? Lets compare England to London. England: population 57.11 million, GDP £2,162 billion, GDP per capita £37,852, median full time salary £34,963. London: population 8.87 million, GDP £562 billion, GDP per capita £63,407, median full time salary £44,370. England excluding London: population 48.24 million, GDP £1,600 billion, GDP per capita £33,167. Source: Wikipedia for population and GDP (2022), Statista for median salary (2023). As you can see, the difference in GDP is quite large, but the difference in salary is more moderate. Considering that living expenses are probably higher in London, I expect the difference in living standards to be fairly small. The unemployment rate in the UK is only about 4%, so that's not an issue either. If anyone can figure out the median salary of England without London, I'd be happy to hear it.
as a brit, yea its true, we have an underclass of total silly people here. i think movies have made people think everyone here is intelligent...but nope
British is still an ethnic state of their own but politician of leftist Zionist liberals allowed way to many immigrants creating this as they don’t know the difference of mass immigration vs immigration. Mass migration is unstable will create chaos.
I mainly watch Vaush for politics, I do love Hasan though, they tend to have similar positions… WHERES THE DAWGY there no doggy on cam 😭😭 She was such a cutie puppy EDIT 3: 52:00 yeah 3/8 of our major press outlets are murdoch owned, along with all news outlets. Murdoch owns FOX news among others in America. EDIT 2: 45:00 we should take a hint from the dems and call these guys weird EDIT: Anyways as a britbonger, can confirm culturally these people have no wider influence over our country’s people. The average person on the street is usually left leaning socially AND economically. Two of the London riots by the counter protesters are 20 minute tfl bus journeys from my family. home, I’m away studying physics at university. Man I miss under 18 free bus travel as teenagers, g we did whatever we wanted! Caught out, age 16 at 3AM after an illegal rave, on god knows what drugs on the other end of the massive city? 6 free buses home sparing me a 6 hour walk. The average britbonger has socially democratic positions on policy. This is why we are all irked by current labour, as they are neoliberals, not soc dems. There’s also loads of conspiracist sentiment surrounding them. Like all reform UK voters believe in the WEF elites (of a particular faith) controlling the world But then the greens in comparison, has so much propaganda against them, they get treated like ML vegan communists. I voted green. Tbf I’m a Marxist anarchist so… not beating the allegations. I do hate vegans though. It’s an English leftist joke, that we all hate the greens, but we read their policies and think “damn this is 🔥, why does no-one vote for them!?” Then proceed to NOT vote for them because “they couldn’t possibly win” All self-respecting English people hate vegANS. And drink builder’s tea. This is a fact.
18:23 I remember about a year ago I was reading an article from The Economist about the UK economy. It's not good. The London stock exchange is not doing very well. The majority of the companies that are doing well are basically holdover mining companies from their imperial days. Also, there are so few startups that are being formed there, that they have lost the ability to accurately price them if they want to go public in the UK. To price them accurately, you need to hire a person full time to do that. But there are so few startup there that its just not worth it to hire a person. And so, if a startup did want to go public in the UK, it would be under priced because no one there can price it accurately. Also, a huge proportion of the nation's net worth is in real estate and the land it sits on specifically. These buildings don't change very much. It's not like a new business where someone's trying to build something new. It's just a building that doesn't change. Also, during COVID things got so bad that some retail staff were wearing body cams. Thats how bad the population got. Albeit, they usually kept them off most of the time. But they could threaten to turn them on. And there are a lot of other big problems I could talk about. The decline in the UK has been real. According to the news it sounds like they are in worse shape than the US is right now.
The populism surge in recent history is mainly due to the post pandemic migration backlog in which way more people per year came in (but same level it would have been at from 2019 until now had no pandemic happened), same with the sudden per year growth in money supply at the time which had to work it's way through. I do think the spike in housing costs will level out in the coming few years but until then populists go brrr unfortunately.
Hey, they left the EU so its all good. The island is contained, but we should build a big wall so the infection doesnt spread. The problem is that its memetically spread :(
The Hunger Games is anti-capitalist Star Wars is Anti-Imperialist Divergent is a mix of both and it's slightly about autism😂 and I haven't f****** watched V for Vendetta
The message of illegal immigrants I can get by but the stuff they say afterwards makes zero sense. Another funny thing about the whole situation is, wasn’t brexits main point that they don’t want to take more asylum seekers? Seems like England as a whole is falling apart.
Your interpretation is all wrong. When the brexit referendum happened it was presented as just information gathering. Most people didn't even bother to vote in it. Brexit is massively unpopular here. And these edl types are a tiny tiny minority. And that's why they are acting up, because the right just had a catestrophic and historic loss in the last election.
literally separating themselves from the immigrants is what got them into this situation. Leaving the EU not only left the trade markets but also the labour force.
Idk how you vould possibly be racist against muslims in England seeing as its one of the only good foods you can get almost snywhere there hahaha. Imagrants are single handedly carrying that whole countries cuisine.
Definitely! I have been out today in Newcastle and people of all ethnicities have been out enjoying the nice weather! And the small % of far right have gone back to there holes like rats !!!
You do realise that the far right make up a % of our country ! And if Hassan showed an equal amount of footage of the anti far right marches from the last 2 days you would see a Dident type of person !!!
They’ve been in for like 2 month, but yeah it’s totally labours fault and not the absolute failure of the Tory party for last 5 years demonising asylum seekers. Totally.
@@Zetejone I mean I've actually interacted with Muslims and they're chill af. Although I'll admit that they are radical people who ruin the vibes man and I live in Nigeria and we have the boko Haram who are terrorists but even in that there's a lot of nuance to rhy they were formed and the political agenda of those who funded them.
@@Zetejone tell me you never talked to muslims without telling me. I didn't see muslims destroying or looting stores during pro palestine protests. I didn't see muslims setting hotels on fire with people in it, nor did I see muslims during protests attacking pedestrians that look like a certain race or belong to a certain religion. Every accusation is a confession
@user-qb2ze8pn9c disagree with what?? That we don't find it ok you going around attacking pedestrians that are black or "look muslim"?? The black boy that got killed by a white man in London this year disagrees with you
@@JamesDimond-l7u yes I do, the truth is the person that killed those 3 girls was not a muslim, yet nazis go around attacking muslims and mosques and break into stores to loot stuff, apparently this is all to "protect children"
