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England Squad Announced for Tour to Japan and NZ - Fin or Marcus? 

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England Rugby Coach Steve Borthwick has picked his squad for the summer tour to Japan and New Zealand. Quick look through the squad and the fixtures for 2024
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@DanR-1994
@DanR-1994 18 дней назад
Slightholme vs Telea Feyi-Waboso vs Clark them 4 right there could make the tour worth while on its own. Think Razor is the answer for the AB's going back to the top. think it'll be 2-0 to the AB's but very very close games. one hell of a young squad going on tour for England and very promising times ahead. Kiwi's seem to be the only fans who can appreciate players regardless of their origin so very excited for to see the reactions towards, Dan, Martin, Cunningham South, Fin Smith, Slightholme and the potential world beater that is Feyi-Waboso.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah man I reckon it'll be the first look a lot of Kiwis get to some of the younger players in the squad. I reckon we'll fall in love with Feyi-Waboso - I still remember the first few games I saw him play for Exeter very clearly!
@lukeperks1915
@lukeperks1915 18 дней назад
Watson isn’t done yet just hasn’t really been fit since before the World Cup. He’s on one of the new RFU hybrid contracts I think so he’ll come straight back into the reckoning when fit.
@mattmasksforehead620
@mattmasksforehead620 18 дней назад
A lot of optimism about this squad up here in England. The feeling is that a lot of the older guys you mention - Vunipolas, Youngs, Daly etc - hadnt really been firing for a few years. But the English clubs did better than expected in the European Cup this year and played a lot of exciting rugby, largely off the back of young talent. Guys like Baxter, Cunningham-South, Fin Smith, Feyi-Waboso, Sleightholme are all tearing it up. That said, touring NZ is a big ask and you're right that a 1-1 series would be seen as a massive win for England. Can't wait!
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah man very exciting to see these youngsters coming though - and they're not even near the peak of their powers
@alexandervaneker1435
@alexandervaneker1435 18 дней назад
As a Bristol Bears fan I'm delighted for Gabriel Oghre & Harry Randall. They have had a fantastic season here in the Gallagher Premiership and hope they get some game time. Looking forward to the new All Blacks era too, can't wait to binge watch some International test rugby!!
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah man gonna be some cracking games to come!
@ChrisBrown-or8ky
@ChrisBrown-or8ky 19 дней назад
Lotsa talent. Just gotta get it right on the park and they're capable of beating anyone
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
100% man - loads of talent indeed, pretty young side too
@brucefale6132
@brucefale6132 18 дней назад
Just gotta get it right on the park.....wow how on earth did you figure that out.
@glennwoods2462
@glennwoods2462 18 дней назад
Meanwhile, Carter Gordon signed with the Gold Coast Titans for 2 years....😯😲
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Ah what!? I hadn't even seen that!
@kylewillis6810
@kylewillis6810 18 дней назад
​@TwoCentsRugby yes it been on the news
@stephenb7528
@stephenb7528 19 дней назад
Would've liked to have seen Ted Hill involved. Think Tom Curry may start at 6, but SB likes Roots.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 19 дней назад
Yeah Ted Hill feels unlucky. I'm not 100% sold on Roots yet but yeah we'll see aye
@stephenb7528
@stephenb7528 18 дней назад
@@TwoCentsRugby agreed on Roots, think we have better options. Exciting squad all the same. Looking forward to the tour
@turnerjc11
@turnerjc11 18 дней назад
Ted hill should play. I don’t get Roots inclusion. And hes not English..
@mikehosken4328
@mikehosken4328 19 дней назад
Looking forward to it
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 19 дней назад
Yeah man gonna be some good tests
@s.j.a486
@s.j.a486 18 дней назад
I’m genuinely excited about the English national team,it’s been a while since I’ve felt like this.The summer tour will be very very interesting,can’t wait to see how we fare against the AB’s 🙂
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah man a lot of young gun players getting a crack at test level!
@tablatom
@tablatom 18 дней назад
Kiwi here living in the UK. It’s 10° right here right now, our summer LOL. Auckland weather for the next week, slightly warmer than London LOL
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Lol wtf 😂
@tablatom
@tablatom 18 дней назад
@@TwoCentsRugby like REALLY. Global warming? yer right. Love your channel bro.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Cheers man yeah but that's crazy - thanks for the update though 😁
@rhysjones9870
@rhysjones9870 18 дней назад
More excited for this tour than i am our own (Welshman) 😂 really like the look at the England backs should be some great head to heads vs the all blacks
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
It will hopefully be a cracking one mate! I'll still be following your boys though!
@charlottescott7150
@charlottescott7150 18 дней назад
Looking forward to it and hope England beat EJs Japan!
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah I like the Japanese rugby team but not a fan of Eddie since that debacle
@Canvashed
@Canvashed 18 дней назад
Not expecting England to win the series but just be competitive. Last time NZ put England to the sword was in Hamilton going back some years otherwise its been close games between the 2 sides, at least England have some pace in their backline now.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah exactly - they can't be blown out aye. But it'll be interesting with NZ having a new coach and all!
@Canvashed
@Canvashed 18 дней назад
@@TwoCentsRugby are these games played later than usual? I'm sure last England toured NZ it was June, because they headed straight down there literally after premiership final was played.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah they used to be in June - wee while ago though that!
@-NemoMeImpuneLacessit
@-NemoMeImpuneLacessit 18 дней назад
Looking forward to see how the young lads go against the All Black team . The 'summer ' has not arrived yet in England, its around 10C and windy/rainy so maybe it has? Finn Smith is an interesting lad and he might flourish in the heat of a test match . Should be informative. Cheers mark!
@Coverdrive50
@Coverdrive50 18 дней назад
The best 28/29 players in that squad are of a very good standard. Borthwick is definitely guilty of selecting some “tourists” who won’t disrupt the apple cart too much if they don’t play and will be positive around camp. There’s quite a few guys outside of the squad that, on merit, should really be there (guys like Langdon, Hill, Pearson, Murley)
@axisfolate4300
@axisfolate4300 18 дней назад
I don't know that "guilty" is quite the right word. Good tourists are essential - contrast Jason Leonard in 1997 vs SA and Matt Dawson in 2001 vs Aus.
@Coverdrive50
@Coverdrive50 18 дней назад
@@axisfolate4300 I'd argue comparing Jason Leonard and Matt Dawson to some of the guys in this squad is a false equivalence. Borthwick should have picked the last few spots in his squad on merit and backed his man management to have them be good tourists. I used the word "tourist" because I didn't want to be rude and say "bin juice".
@axisfolate4300
@axisfolate4300 18 дней назад
"Bin juice"! 😀 Yeah, I'm not sure who you're talking about (I live a long way away and don't get to watch any premiership rugby). I think Langdon is injured, but from all accounts, it does seem that Ted Hill is very unlucky not to be going. Any danger that he could be this generation's Tom Croft - a freak athlete whom you'd need to build your whole back row around - or does he do the dark arts better than Croft?
@axisfolate4300
@axisfolate4300 18 дней назад
My point about Leonard and Dawson was about how Leonard worked tirelessly with Smith and Wallace (I think McGeechan said he "made the tour") even though he was benched because of them. Dawson OTOH, put his name to a grumpy and sulky journo piece about Graham Henry while the tour was still going on.
@amcarthur5003
@amcarthur5003 18 дней назад
Which are the 8 players you're talking about being tourists?
@j.k.jerome2093
@j.k.jerome2093 18 дней назад
'Twinderloo' coming at you Kiwis!
@user-nm3pr9zz1k
@user-nm3pr9zz1k 15 дней назад
Wallace Sititi to debut for NZ and scored 3 tries in the first test.My predictions.
@kylewillis6810
@kylewillis6810 18 дней назад
Where can we see this match
@thecuttingsark5094
@thecuttingsark5094 18 дней назад
I hope Sleightholme has a good showing. I still think this tour could be too much for the England squad, given the annual commitments. But I’ve been a big fan of Borthwick since he took over.
@patrickthomas8101
@patrickthomas8101 17 дней назад
Just curious of how England would play? will they play their new Attack style out of the passed two games or the Territorial kicking game that hey usually do? Thing is the new system i think they will use on Japan but in the 1st test i think they will go old school. mainly because New Zealand will thrive off of newer open play style, catch a few interceptions or force England to make mistakes. but they struggle with the set piece game which England is one of the stronger teams. Like in 03 New Zealand were force to play England's game in Auckland. or more recently with France and South Africa.
@murraysmith595
@murraysmith595 18 дней назад
This will be a tough ask for the ABs. How long will Robertson get first time with his squad pre first test? I expect a few hiccups first year, but in the long run Razors tenure being highly successful.
@jeffdutton2374
@jeffdutton2374 18 дней назад
correction on the weather. It's unusually cold in England at the moment, warmer in NZ.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah I've just checked the weather reports - only a few degrees warmer in London than Dunedin, crazy!
@tallshort1849
@tallshort1849 19 дней назад
Summer in the UK?! 😂😂😂😂😂
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Lol right yes, you can tell I've never been there 😂
@tallshort1849
@tallshort1849 18 дней назад
​@@TwoCentsRugbymate it's been raining non stop here since 2022
@clemfandango619
@clemfandango619 18 дней назад
​@TwoCentsRugby you've never done a Haka in Trafalgar Square? You can't be a kiwi.
@ProfessionalBob
@ProfessionalBob 17 дней назад
Yeah this June has been shit so far. I've been considering it lucky if it gets as high as 15°C lately. We are not gonna have acclimatised enough to be prepared for our inevitable one week long heatwave.
@EdLo3
@EdLo3 18 дней назад
England will miss Genge, no genuine carriers in the front row apart from Dan. NZ have a very mobile, threatening front row, especially if Asafo Aumua gets picked - could cause havoc! Ted Hill is a big omission, would have preferred him to Ben Curry. Although would be great to see twins on the pitch together 🙂 Should be a great series.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah man at least Dan gets more than a couple of minutes in more recent times. But yeah Hill seems like one of the biggest omissions aye
@EdLo3
@EdLo3 18 дней назад
@@TwoCentsRugby absolutely, although would be good to see what Oghre has to offer off the bench against Japan (he's a live wire). George is obviously captain but he offers very little around the park. Although I sense that if Owen Farrell doesn't make the RWC, Borthwick will pray that at 36 (at the time of the tournament), Jamie will continue as captain. When is the ABs squad released? You've got some great talent coming through. Although who backs up D-Mack in your opinion?
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah we've still got a wee while - 24th June. Next cab of the rank will be interesting. Fergus Burke is going overseas, Brett Cameron is playing well for the Canes. Even the Blues Harry Plummer has been talked about, which I would have called ridiculous 12 months ago, but he's going well
@EdLo3
@EdLo3 18 дней назад
@@TwoCentsRugby yes that must have ruffled a few feathers with Burke going to Sarries unless you change the eligibility rules in the next year or so. Who would be your pick at 10? Plummer looks pretty solid.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah Plummer if I had to pick - but who knows with Razor aye. He might even go with David Havili to cover from the bench or something
@somersetfan1
@somersetfan1 18 дней назад
England hasn't had a summer yet. Dunedin will be fine....
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Right yeah I forgot how it works up there 😅 Apparently Dunedin today is only 4 degrees or so different from London
@martinluke9470
@martinluke9470 17 дней назад
@@TwoCentsRugby Are NZ in winter though?
@andrews1289
@andrews1289 18 дней назад
Following some more positive performances in the latter stages of the 6N there's some positivity around a single win in NZ would be massive. In the squad there's only really the omission of Ted Hill that I'd argue with. Kiwi born Roots is a good honest player but reckon he's not got much of a point of difference and not showing he's international standard IMO. All Blacks post RWC bit of an unknown quantity with the amount of retirements and those taking time overseas. I think the relative weakness of your domestic comp may prove to hurt the AB's long term. England lacking depth and experience at 12 and both props.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 18 дней назад
Yeah Ted Hill can feel hard done by for sure. Dingwall at 12 you reckon?
@murraysmith595
@murraysmith595 18 дней назад
How do you conclude our domestic Rugby is weak?
@andrews1289
@andrews1289 18 дней назад
@TwoCentsRugby He's the only natural 12. He was dropped once Lawrence was fit again in the 6N, but didn't get to play once they switched tactically. There are worse ideas than playing a club 9,10,12 combo.
@andrews1289
@andrews1289 18 дней назад
@murraysmith595 'Relatively' or do you think the competition is stronger for the SA clubs leaving?
@clemfandango619
@clemfandango619 18 дней назад
Fin to start, Marcus off the bench.
@khankake9576
@khankake9576 19 дней назад
No Owen Farrell?
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 19 дней назад
Nah he's heading off to France
@corriedebeer799
@corriedebeer799 18 дней назад
​@@TwoCentsRugbyprobably still salty about having the captaincy taken from him.
@charlottescott7150
@charlottescott7150 18 дней назад
​@@corriedebeer799It wasn't removed. He stopped being available for international rugby so Jamie George was given the captaincy
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