Enneagram: The Difference Between 4w3 and 4w5 

4w3 24:33 4w5 28:45

I think it's interesting that all your videos on type 4 are the most popular. It's like those who identify as type 4s are more interested in searching for themselves like the ennegram suggests

For me it was my father’s problem of being a pedophile - I was his favorite - and my mother blamed me. My siblings were jealous of my good looks and courage. I left home at 18 and moved to the East Village. I was conveniently labeled “crazy” for “ making up” stories about my father. Luckily I’m brave and smart and did just fine without my toxic family with whom I no longer have ANY contact. Had it been easy? Absolutely not. But I’m my own person with lotsa friends, happily retired in Mexico 🇲🇽. Life is good!

4w5 checking in. The Garden of Eden analogy is spot-on. My friends often call me an "angel" and acquaintances often describe me or treat me as "otherworldly". It's not a conscious act, I truly, deeply feel lost in this world. Like it's not good enough. Because I'm so in tune with the energy of what was. Perhaps I feel it too literally. I'm still practical and do all the human things to sustain this existence, but I can't not know, or not feel the connection to that God piece. Everything else pales in comparison. But then I also envy people that can find genuine joy in this existence. I've been practicing gratitude to ground me. The love thing is a whole other story. I'm a sexual instinct 4,so I refuse to suffer. I deliberately fashion myself as something desirable yet unobtainable. That's my middle finger to the libidos of the world. And although my own goes unfulfilled, at least I know I'm always "the one that got away". Very egocentric, but I also avoid many of the pitfalls that ruin others when they give in to the neediness and infatuation of love. Everything in this world requires sacrifice. Choose yours.

Spot on! As a 4w5 I finally feel understood on a deeper level. Suffering to avoid more suffering. That's me.

The explanation you said that we were all fallen, broken ever since the garden of Eden completely broke the bondages of the shame that gripped me for years! Thank you!

When you talked about the loss of love from a parent thing, that hit me extremely hard... My dad left me when I was 10, a week after my birthday, and I blamed it on myself for years and years. I blamed myself so much, that I attempted suicide. All I want in life is to feel worth it, and loved. I’ve longed for it for years, and I always blame myself for most of the bad things that have happened to me. I’m 15 right now, and I really appreciate this video. You make me feel worthy and noticed, thank you so much man. It means so much.

I am 4w5 but with also a heavy 3 wing which helps me from becoming a complete weirdo. The 3 in me definitely wants achievement and success (recognition) and the 5 intellectually recognizes I am worthy of such, but the 4 feels like my defectiveness makes me unworthy. 4s also feel unworthy of love (b/c there is something wrong with us) and therefore if you love us there must be something wrong with you b/c if you knew how odd we felt you most certainly would not love us. The image of the 3 helps me function in daily life but it also adds a lot of narcissistic feelings within, and so I find myself reaching towards the 5 more just so I don't drive myself crazy. I am so thankful for the 5 wing. I don't think I could manage without it.

In my experience as a 4 and with others that I know, what you said about blaming ourselves is very accurate. We have this guilty nature even when we know we're dead wrong

damn nobody has ever read me so well. 4w5 here feeling ~understood~ for the first time

Good job! I think your 4 videos are popular among fours because you do a great job of explaining them and their dynamics. Too many (especially from the "narrative traditions") paint fours with, frankly, silly characterizations and create self-doubt for fours because they try to explain affectations as traits instead of the underlying dynamics that produce the affects. I, personally, had to struggle for years with "am I a 4w5 or a 5w4?" because of rather shallow presentations on what fours really are. I, for one, appreciate your willingness (even/especially as a non-4) to dig out and present the core elements of the 4, it's very important for all types, but as a four, I can't stress enough how wonderful it is to come across such compassion and true understanding for this type.

Adding this to my Favorites playlist. Resounding how you hit all of us in our spirits with the breakdown of our childhood experiences. I am INFP and a 4w5. I crave novelty, research, being inquisitive, artistic, empathetic, philosophical outlets. I love daydreaming and am addicted to this coping mechanism. I am going to try to learn how to "develop my wing 3 and develop this as a strength".

NGL This was really hard to hear. At first I felt like I was being scolded lol I can spend days in my head and feel like I’m being productive, but idk...I don’t know how to be motivated for action. And I know I shouldn’t expect people to want to sit with me in my “moments” but I can’t get out. I isolate because I know no one wants to be around me and I can’t get out. This probably makes no sense, but maybe another 4w5 can relate?

This video helped me so much. For a long time I was on the fence about whether I’m a 4w5 or 4w3 since I got 4w5 on all my tests but I’m often active and tend to see the world with a “everything sucks but it’s cool anyway” attitude and I can be an achiever if I’m in the right mood. But I think your video has convinced me that I’m a 4w5 as I’m less concerned with my image than I am with knowing that my mind and my ways of life set me apart from others. I also tend to withdraw from people and live inside my head when I’m not feeling the best rather than seek validation. I have 7 in my tritype, so the being active and finding everything exciting part makes sense. Before, I didn’t know that one can develop their opposite wing, so that must be where my potential to achieve comes from. Thank you so much for uploading!

“Odd is your address” - LOL, too true! 4w5 eccentric (with “eccentric” sometimes being a badge of honor, a marker of being “beyond the mundane” used to temporarily/unsuccessfully counterbalance ever-present, nagging feelings of worthlessness). You described the core wound so well. I remember wondering, at age 11, why I was so intrinsically flawed and thus unlikeable by anyone. I was changing schools that year and consciously decided to make myself invisible, thereby hiding my “defectiveness” from others and avoiding the pain of (guaranteed) future rejection. So, probably moved towards the 5 wing at that age. Have done various forms of art thru the years. A recurrent theme has been to illuminate the secret beauty in what’s usually discarded as broken, worthless or even repulsive by most of society - for example, a series of photographs showing bread mold (grown in my basement) up close, full of soft textures and interweaving colors. Portraits of homeless people, with the history of perennial human suffering and striving etched in their faces. The colorful patterns in rust, the beauty of a crack drawn across the once-perfect porcelain cup, fallen plants midway thru the process of decomposition and return to dust. Even if one doesn’t *do* any specific kind of art, Four perhaps is the shamanic artist - seeing what’s valuable, even beautiful, even in the shadow realms.

Thank u so much for all the efforts you put to actually understand people's different perspective. As a 4w3 I'm always dealing with balancing my emotions and my logical sense and it sometimes can get really frustrating considering my age(17) ,because sometimes I feel like maybe it is not so healthy to have these sort of deep emotions going on but on the other hand I can't really help it. So thank you again for investing your time to help people like us I really appreciate it.

As a good 4 person, i must say, that the most enjoyable parts of this videos are the one he says "this is so profound, this is so interesting" hahahaha because it actually flatters me in a very weird way. It's :Hey you're broken, but you're very interesting broken person.

My parents were extremely loving. My dad could be really critical but when it came to love, and being told I was loved, and knowing I was loved, that was a given. But I relate to everything else about 4s.

I can't believe how precises this is!! I just discovered that I'm a 4w5. When I listen to this, my jaw is dropping!! Oh, yes, and I do need to be more careful of what I say and how it comes across to the mundane world. Ha-ha-ha!

I am vegan was diagnosed with leukemia 2 years ago given 6 months to live. Had no interest in chemo am doing fine working with a shaman and hypnotherapist. So my 5 wing is alive and well 😉 you are so helpful! Thank you Dr Tom! 👍🏽

This encapsulates Enneagram for me perfectly for the core 4s. My best friend is a 3w and I am a 5w. She is an ENFJ and I am an INFP and you have illustrated the differences perfectly. She presents so beautifully and I really need to care more about my visual presentation, she cares more about her reputation and what impression she creates overall, again - I am quite apathetic about the latter aforementioned but wished this wasn't so. I laugh as I type this as it is so very frustrating yet amusing.

Thank you Dr.Lahue! I feel loved and seen when i watch your informative and thorough videos. I feel like youre a safe guardian for the fours 💚

got me crying through several parts of this video.... I am learning.. thank you. (4w5)

I'm glad I just found this video. I'm a 4w3 and loss has been a topic all my life, now I've lost my best friend and soulmate and I'm digging deeper into the enneagram topic as a kind of distraction. You seem like such a kind and thoughtful man and this video has helped and calmed me more than all the counseling sessions I had. Big & heartfelt thanks for this and you gained a new follower.

You are so on the money! The man I thought was my dad died when I was 4 and another man announced himself as my father and went MIA! My mom was depressed and an alcoholic and I was a trigger for all the pain my father caused her. So I had to find direction in my internal world and accepted that it was not okay to be loved, protected or dependent on anyone

I love how in depth you are with your analysis on each enneagram. I’m a 4 wing 3

I feel so seen as a 4w5. This. Is. So. Me!!! I don't even know when it happened lol. I think before the past few years, I was likely more 4w3... had more concern about doing it better than.... and appearance. BUT NOW... After having about 7 years of seclusion/ working from home / online entrepreneurship...I think my 5 wing got more developed. This is so useful. Thank you for taking time to create this. I have some "guidance" on how to move forward and pull some of that 3-ness off the shelf to reach some of the goals I have.

Holy snot talking about type 4 so in-depth really hit the nail on the head. I've worked out some of the issues I have as a Type 4, but man, I didn't realize that my own wailing gets in the way of me being happy. Also talking about 4w5 showed me even more about myself, considering that I basically fit that type so much. I really have to thank you cause this really made me think.

Yayyy! I've been waiting for this one ! 🙂 your information is so helpful to learn about myself and live my best life. I am married to a 8. It works!!!

There's a genuine respect, admiration and compassion with which you've delivered this. It feels rare...the message is usually 'it's all in your head'. If you just get over it you'll be fine. I love how you say an over attraction to grief etc. It's real, it's valid, it's maybe just not always helpful.

Something 😕 is missing or lost, that's why I connect so closely to my creator. He completes me, and also my devotion to God keeps me from acting on most of my spontaneous whims, which tend to be disastrous for me at times and not always good for others. I'll keep watching the video, only 8 minutes in, very interesting concepts about different personalities.

Currently being read to FILTH SIR. No but seriously I've been having lots of troubles in life and thoughts about how I just feel unlovable, and then I find this video and you are reading my thoughts back to me

Since I’m into enneagrams, I’ve always thought I was a 4w3 because of how people’s judgements were important to me. But I recognised myself in this “wing 3 development” you talked about at the end. When I understood that finding someone that’d love me was going to be difficult (I was a teenager at that time), I tried to change to fit in, and started caring about others’ judgments. Also, thank you very much for your videos about 4s. It helps lots of us. ✨

12:41 "you can stay over focused on sorrow, pain, melancholy, suffering..." I heard that at the same time that I was practicing a song that I am working on, the lyrics the I was reading were "one more night of our foolish choice to be...so blinded to horrors, pretending we arent chased by the pain and the sorrow" What the hell man, so glad I found this video, really gives me an insight, thank you.

Your videos have helped me so much on my journey to understand myself and others. Thank you for offering your talents to help people!

I grant myself pockets of time to dwell, to cry, to purge...and then I pick myself up and move forward. I have an "eff you" type mentality that drives me to push through. Also, not sure about the other 4s here but I exercise like it's my job, helps with the ruminating and increases positivity. 4w5 --- we're not nearly as douchey as you seem to think about certain things. We like what we like. It doesn't have to be the polar opposite of the mainstream, we aren't hipster; it just has to be something we truly connect with/enjoy.

Excellent video. You hit it on the head perfectly. These videos really help me and I apprecite your work. Thank you.

Yup so true...thank you this helped me put the missing pieces of the puzzle in place and finally get my whole picture...4w5

Grounded is the word I am taking, you gave it so much mean to reconsider things that actually worth, such real quality relationships. I am 4w3. Thanks

Thank you sooooo much for doing these videos!! As a 4w5 and sometimes 4w3 I would say SP (not sure though) These videos are like strong medicne that’s hard to swallow and might even make you purge but in the end it really heals you by bringing out your truer essence and in peace of oneself!!! I’ve got no idea how you as a 7 can be so articulate with these intense feelings and as well being so objective though so empathetic and insightful…

32:00 - as someone who can identify as a 4 W 5 I feel at this section in your video a good metaphor for what you are describing is the Japanese concept of 'wabi'sabi' as well as patina. Wabi originally referred to the loneliness of living in nature, remote from society; sabi meant "chill", "lean" or "withered". Around the 14th century these meanings began to change, taking on more positive connotations.

I’ve been waiting for this!:) love your vids man keep up the good work✌️are you going to cover the instinctual variants at some point?

You made a comment at 20 minutes that you quickly changed topics but was the most profound statement of Enneagram Type 4 " irredeemable deficiencies ". That is my core which has prevented me from receiving Grace and left me not enjoying. Thank you! Gruess Gott

4w3 my bio father and his family refused to acknowledge me, my mother was abusive, and my husband left me for a co worker and I have spent SO much time in therapy b/c I internalize all that as me missing something that makes a person lovable and I’m constantly trying to improve myself and find that thing. I also know it’s completely illogical but that doesn’t stop me from feeling that way 🤷‍♀️

22:22 "re-experiencing of that early loss and the confirmation of their worthlessness that goes with it..." Ask any 4 who has felt this in their adult life. For me, I had this happen 2 years ago and again 2 months ago. It's traumatic. It's dark. It's dangerous. It's embarrassing. It's the most sad, most empty, most worthless, most out of control I've ever felt. So yes... ANYTHING to avoid going there.

INFP 4w5 here

I am a huge student of psychological astrology and I must say that Type 4 is very similar and could possibly be connected to the sign of Cancer (the 4th sign in the western zodiac) due to its melancholic, hyper sensitive, “longing for the past” kind of protective nature. Just like how the crab uses it’s shell and claws to protect its more so fragile inner body. Cancer is also associated with the 4th house in astrology which is the actually the deepest, darkest part of a natal chart, sometimes considered the soul.. the 4th house represents the most intimate parts of our nature, the parts of us which are deep and not seen or shown to public.. which is so ironic when you mentioned how Type 4 has the capacity to go in deep within themselves, look and learn from the darkest aspects of their humanity.

I really appreciate the way you talk about me.

Another great video, Tom. Thank you!

Before I have even started to watch video I would say: I feel very different from Michael Jackson. Obviously I didn't know him, but I get the idea through media. He had this type of need to expose himself in flamboyant clothes, dancing, being very sentimental and emotional, dramatic, wearing his heart on his sleeve and so on. I am far from this. I usually dress in black or neutral colors, I shy away from people. I rarely speak my mind openly, (that is to say freely, except in environment where I know people well) have this overbearing look on my face when dealing with people, that I am sure some find arrogant, and so on... In short I am a 4w5, MJ is said to be a 4w3. His reasoning went to his heart, my reasoning connects to my head. It makes a lot of difference. You might say I am cold as ice on the outside, but (unfortunately) the complete opposite on the inside!

My oddness IS my address

I personally think it’s badass to be a 4w5 but I can see myself developing a wing 3 FOR SURE.

I am 4 and I was thinking that I internalize the badness of the world and people in the attempt to have another chance, to have another outcome, the solution. And then you said it :) It's kind of life-aim for a 4 to change what happened. I can perceive world objectivly, that bad things happen and well it hasn't killed me yet. I'm fairly well. But then something is missing, my centeal feeling of wanting to turn things around. So I kind of voluntarily go back to it. It feels like a home. And it is the cave my art is born from, like a healing, to regenerate...

Its like everyone else feels pain like a mosquito bite and are able to ignore it and move forward while my pain feels like a shark just tore me in half . One side of me is severed , numb and detached while the other side is screaming in pain while trying to compensate for the disassociated other half while appearing sane and you think in such a state I have the capacity or the will to worry if someone thinks I'm dressed weird. I'm a prisoner of my mind. I'm not having a fantasy reality better than what's real. I don't prefer it. But I literally cannot stop myself from zoning into myself and unable to stay in the present time for more than 30 seconds . I just learned about this test today. It said I was equally split between a four and a five. Idk what that means but I'm hoping to learn. Thank you 😊

I’m a 4 wing 5. Wow so very helpful. Thank you

U should do a video on 4w5 vs 5w4. Ive seen a lot of people be conflicted between whether if theyre 4w5 and 5w4 including myself and i feel thatd make to be a really interesting and helpful video for a lot of people out there who are confused about their type

Where were you when I needed to build a dating profile. 😆 I’m a 4w5, and I’m really glad I stumbled onto your videos.

I am, apparently, a 4w5. I just disagree with the over-attachment and dwelling part. I have always been an outsider, because of my way of thining and objectivity. I am objective to a fault and very judicial. Can even sometimes come off as cold. I am very emotional, and seek emotional connection before all, and dislike superfluous relationships. I don't care if people don't like me. I want to change the world for the better. I only want the best for people. I care about the environment and nature so much. About people and kids. And nothing will stop me from contributing to resolving those issues. I love being different and eccentric. I have, because of that, few friends, but we are in it for life. I don't make friends easily because people find me weird and unconventional. And that's ok. I don't care. When a plight happens, I feel it, I go over it, analysing it, letting it in. But as soon as I'm done I let go. Life's hard and I don't plan to dwell on misfortunes. In a way I act like an Aquarius. Being selfish, yet caring and loving everybody deep down, especially those closest to me. Being that philanthropic, humanitarian visionary and entrepreneur. I hated myself for most of my life. But I am moving on, fighting for respect and love I deserve, not pushing it in the process. If it's meant to be, it'll be. Was also a pessimist, now I'm working on optimism about myself, because I'm optimistic and realistic when it comes to others. I'm just learning to accept myself and quirks. I'm also an INFJ, which is the rarest MBTI personality. I am very misunderstood, which pisses me off sometimes, but I'm very languid so I don't let it get to me. I do have extremely thick skin. So am I still a 4w5, just a healthy one, or am I something else, doctor?

The prototype of lack-haha. This was great btw-happy youre making these videos, thank you ❤️

You could focus pain, suffer, emotions as a way avoid other emotions. So accurate. 👏👏👏 I am in the middle of 4w3 4w5. I like searching, finding objective informations and also I am ambitious even if I hate ambition.

Excellent video. You make me feel understood and appreciated.

I’m a 4w5, tbh the analysis of the 2,3,4 tremendously helps and on top of that the deeper analysis of fours in the perspective of another type definitely brought out some repressed memories, so thank you :)

This is an amazingly accurate depiction of 4! Thank you so much!

I really enjoy your video, thank you for making this, i learned a lot about how i can develop myself as 4w3. Keep on doing this kind of video. . 😊

The Clapper on N etflix (romantic comedy), perfect example of what you are saying at 32:45. Such broken and odd characters and honestly not that great of a movie as far as quality and reviews but it almost brought me to tears because it was so beautiful like you were saying. I watched it with my girlfriend at the time and she absolutely hated it.

“I would rather feel like I’m flawed but in control, rather than feel like I’m okay and not in control of whether or not love is given to me.”

I relate a bit to 4W5 and 4W3. I have deep thoughts about the world. I also enjoy being different than others around me. Sometimes I wear eccentric clothes and other days I dress normally.

So I'm just starting to learn about Enneagram, and I have to say, I'm a 4w5, and I spent this entire video feeling attacked lol. This cognitive type description works so much better for me than MBTI does because, for MBTI, I consistently get that I'm an INTP, and I can even identify with much of the description of INTP, but there are other things that I don't identify with that the description of INFP fills in, and according to the people who are into this kind of stuff, an INTP 4 should be like a walking contradiction. It's not something that should exist because INTPs are supposed to be super logical and aren't supposed to let their emotions define them. And yet, while I am definitely a very logical person, I do feel emotions very strongly, and I can identify with the emotions of others. So I'm sort of not quite an INTP, and I'm not quite an INFP either because INFP is a type that is ruled by emotion to the point that logic becomes very difficult for them, and logic is most definitely not difficult for me. So I don't really conform to any of the 16 types that MBTI describes in a satisfying way. This, however, is much more useful for describing me as a person and potentially helping me grow, because I hear your description of type 4 and 4w5, and I'm able to identify with all of it. There is no doubt in my mind that my Enneagram type is 4w5, because I do feel a profound sense of loss, I do have a tendency to escape into my pain, and deep down I have to admit that I do it to avoid that feeling of rejection. And I also tend to spend a lot of time thinking about very profound things like the universe and deep time, which are at the same time extremely humbling and almost nihilistic things to study just by their very nature since the nature of the universe and deep time, when truly comprehended, are extremely humbling in the sense that you feel very small compared to the great expanse out there, and that what you do doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things when you consider the ideas that the universe is already 13 billion years old, that in a few trillion years life as we know it becomes almost impossible, and that, despite the fact that we're already talking about trillions of years, the universe will still be in its infancy, and that time will continue to go on for an unimaginable length of time that the human mind physically can't comprehend, a number of years that can only be usefully described using scientific notation or else the majority of this already very long comment would be that number. The feeling that that knowledge brings is almost a sort of Lovecraftian horror at just how small and fleeting your own existence is, and yet it's a feeling I'm always coming back to, as if this whole idea that nothing I do really matters in the grand scheme of things is somehow comforting despite the fact that it's also horrifying and sort of painful to think about the idea that nothing you will ever do will ever have a lasting impact on the universe we live in, and I can sort of get lost in all the various existential crises that come from studying space and cosmology. Even my favorite song is "Thanatos," a piece that specifically tries to conjure up feelings of pain and loneliness. Anyway, I'm going perhaps a little too deep into the rabbit hole. Point is, great video.

The urge to take more action just to be different and not yet another 4w5 xD I made myself laugh

I agree the 4w3 is my healthiest position. Ironic how the 3 is a thorn in my side and difficult to have relationships with. It is like the direct opposite or mirror image of the 4. I am INFP and several ESTJs in my life seem to be 3s. Authenticity is my life so shallow image fakeness is difficult to strive for. It isn’t black and white in our pursuit of our best self. It helps to look at it as on a number line and baby steps in the direction of a 3. I appreciate your soothing and encouraging style of teaching.

AMAZING command of the subject thank u so much

You talked about fear of rejection. And I notice in myself, that whenever I feel love from someone, I feel very happy but then I have fear, that they will show negative feelings towards me and I hide from them. Like literally I don't want to see them cause I feel anxiety of potentially being rejected.

I've enjoyed this video. I feel compelled to ask, do you literally believe in The Garden of Eden or is it metaphorical to you? I'm not Christian and I'm never going to believe in Christian Mythology as literal...like all mythos, I believe they can be helpful as metaphors...

ha ha at around 34.06 you sum us up completely with the oxymoron "4w5s are more mental." Talk about a Freudian slip Dr Tom

I love his reactions to the parts he finds profound...

Another note on my last comment, the judgement we place on others is really a reflection of how we address ourselves. Neither is a good look. Lesson I'm trying to learn- challenge doesn't necessarily mean total destruction.

Maybe this is just my 5 wing coming out, but I spent 10 mins of this video thinking “geez, ‘worser’ isn’t a word.”

24:32 4w3 and 4w5 starts here

Advice well taken and appreciated 😊

I'm a 4w5 with so/sp subtypes. I think my social subtypes kinda makes me have 3 wing influences as it focuses on the social image and it actually kinda helps me to adapt in social situation. I think I'd like to develop my second wing (3 wing) more cuz it's gonna be helpful to make me more productive and taking more action in real life

I wish my husband could understand a 4. He’s a 9 and just can’t understand why I’m so selfish or want so much. Always changing the goal post to what I want he just can’t keep up.

I'm a 4w3 but I'm not good at getting outside of the box in a typically creative way (that's not being self-deprecating, I'm really just not much of an artist, hah). So I've chosen teaching as my "performance stage". I just finished my master's and am looking to get my Ph.D. so that I can be an Old Testament Survey professor. I chose it because I love the OT, but, also, most people don't love the OT. So it lets me be unique! Same thing with my thesis - I wrote it on a specific group of kings in Kings. There wasn't a lot of work done on it but I also just love the history in Kings.

I am definitely both.... Now I am trying to figure out when and why I go to one to another. Hmmm... I feel like I need them both as an artist... Idk🤷🏿‍♀️

Thank you for this video. I have tested both 4w3/so and 4w5/so before (definitely a 4). I'm guessing that this is because I have a heavy history of the success-driven tendencies of the 4w3 as I was growing up (very active in the performing arts, wanted to be successful, image-centered), but as I have matured in age, I find that I am less worried with those forms of expression and more on individual self-development. Mainly exploring ideas in the world, gaining knowledge and expressing myself through the life I live and my personal interests (holistic nutrition, home economics, etc.). I still think my wing 3 is dominant because I still care too much what other people think of me, grapple with the need for recognition, and I tend to be more emotion-driven and social. Thank you for the wing examples!

i really don’t know which wing i lean on more as i share things from both 🙏

Great to find your help. A lo lot of self klowlege I have recieved

You are completely free to live your own religious freedom, and I don't mind you bringing it up at all. I was raised Presbyterian. But I do wish to push back a little on you saying that all babies and children have intrinsic value because they were made in God's image. I would argue they have intrinsic value as human beings simply due to their untapped potential. God isn't a necessary part of the equation. Peace and love, brother, and thanks for your video contributions. You definitely bring value to the world.

Thank you so much for this. ♥️

Is it possible, that i use equally my two wings , but not in a fine way? I mean, i am fat, so, i can't really rely on my image, so, i am draw to studies, but, not for the process, but to present knowlege to others, for i like the stage and the praises. So, i am a inteligent person, with the extroversion of the 4w3.

I honestly can’t decide if I am a 4w5 or a 5w4…

All enneagram types lean into one wing or the other at different points in their life, it isn't set in stone. You might be more used to using one wing over the other but that can change. Instinctual variants tend to be more important than wings.

Wow, the fact I need to ACCEPT my weirdness makes me certain I am a 3 wing, and I need to be more of a 5.

I am 4 w5 for sure!😊

Thank you for the great content, Both wings really resonated with me. My test said sexual 4 with balanced wings, so both could be true for me, although 4w5 is probably the one closest to me

Dr. La Hue - Have u ever thought about the 9 gifts of the Spirit, as stated in the Bible, and relate them to the 9 Enneagram personalities? For instance, the type 2 as having the gift of love.

Wow he's gorgeous

At minute 3:14 the word you're looking for is bassinet :)

really interesting and informative video. thankyou xx

Watching this as a 4w5 who helps run my dads company and just I dyed my hair teal last night OOOPS lmao

I'm 16 minutes in, and he's just dwelling on "you dwell on the negative" for forever. I watched the video about 9's and enjoyed the style much better.