Enneagram: The Difference Between 5w4 and 5w6 

For, me as a 5w6, I have discovered that many people are simply too fickle to deal with. One minute they are seeking me for friendship, and the next minute, they either become my enemies, or decide that I have no importance.... It can be tiresome to deal with such inconsistence. Many people seem unstable to me, at times... For these reasons, it is all too easy to remain introverted, and detached from the world.

5w4 here..! Your description resonates with me. I have a philosophy channel with all kinds of subjects, but I must say that I'm particularly drawn to Carl Jung's stuff about the Shadow and the Anima/Animus which is pretty dark stuff imho. I've been working on a novel (about a monastery) for years now, and boy oh boy.. there's some morbid stuff in there. Being a demonologist sounds pretty interesting :)

5W6 chiming in. I'm an avowed minimalist. If I can't fit my worldly belongings into a backpack and a rolling suitcase, I've got too much stuff. I live simply and with few expenses. I feel like, the more you have, the more you have to maintain. A simpler machine is less likely to break down. And if it does, it's easier to fix. Anything else is just a pointless headache.

“If I don’t need a lot or require a lot, then I’m not going to have to be afraid about having things given to me.” Me, right on the nail.

As a 5w4, I’m not into science or math, but I’m into psychology and history and mythology, especially ancient history because there are many mysteries there, and mythology because I like figuring out what certain things in mythology might symbolize in the real world, and connections between different mythological systems, stuff like that. I’m interested in breaking things down and researching mysteries and taking info and making inferences and connecting dots, that’s why I want to go into forensic science. I’m not into hard facts and formulas, I like when there are things to be debated and left to the imagination, things that need to be inferred.

I disagree 5w4s are extremely drawn towards philosophy. Particularly existentialism and nihilism.

Type 5 here: 5w6 (Investigator): practical thinking (what is), objective, more concrete in thinking, and not connected with emotions of self and others. Detail oriented. Connected with reality and can become focused on nihilism due to seeing reality for what it is (harsh and uncaring; what is) rather than for what it can become with work; what if). 5w4 (Philosopher): theoretical thinking (what if), abstract thinking, intuitive, and more connected with emotions and emotions of others. Big picture oriented. Fantasy oriented and disconnected at times from reality. Hence the tendency towards existentialism: reality is what I think.

That 'minimizing of our needs' that you described is what helped me survive in my abusive household.

A 5w4 infj here! I must say for 35 years I thought I didnt have emotions, I couldn’t express anything myself but i was always feeling for other people. The reality is that I feel so deeply that I guess i blocked myself in mode of protection. I’m híper sensitive person, after my spiritual awakening and shadow work I freed myself of that shell and I’m not afraid anymore to be who i am in total essence. My addiction is listen to videos and getting information all day long. I live with my headphones on! People says to me: Danna, if you are wearing headphones all day we can not talk to you and I answer: that the idea!!! Lol.. I love everything that is in the occult but I don’t like to go so deep in the dark dark things, I know that exist but I rather don’t get involved in that low frequency. What I love is to know peoples minds, personality disorders, childhood traumas, hypnosis, psychology, the power of the subconscious mind, universal laws, astrology, the astral world, spirits, entities, the beings of other dimentions and of course, quantum physics! My life literally change when I learnt how energy works! My soul purpose is to guide people during the spiritual awakening. Great video. Thank you.

In a society that really builds upon you the idea of connections, especially in kid's TV shows, I've never really felt quite understood when it comes to my relationships with people. There has been a lot of misunderstanding when it comes to putting in "effort" or "actually" caring about someone. It's hard to find people who understand that you do care about people without needing a lot of emotional connection. Since I've discovered enneagrams and mbti types, it has given me some comfort with the person I am.

Yep… I'm definitely a 5w6. Pretty interesting point of view, thanks again for sharing it!

One of my sons is a 5 w 6. Even in elementary school, they started telling me that he was coming up with new and different ways to do math problems.

As a 5w4 I'm an overactive thinker, which takes me away from the moment and I can stay there for a long time. I even zone out when I'm with others when the conversations are not intellectually stimulating. I once said to some friends that I often seek to use a mental framework to understand reality, but that's a coping mechanism I think. I believe that emotional awareness and intuition can be a superpower for 5w4s. When we turn our hearts and heads on simultaneously, we find meaning in mundane things.

This explains why I was never into science and always hated math! I’m a 5w4 and I’ve always been into literature and my career goal is being an author.

I'm a 5 with equal scores on both wings 4 and 6 (tested twice with the same result). I'm also an INTJ with a developed Fi. Your analysis makes a lot of sense to me. I'm both artistic/individualistic and systematic - always torn between the two. Imagine having a career in finance at one point and switching to graphic design later on. I've always been drawn to the arts but at the same time, I love working with computers/systems/database/project management tools. I agree with the rest of what you say as it applies to me having both wings. I can't say it's better to be balanced coz then it means I don't get the full benefits of each wing but I'm happy with the explanation and happy with who I am.

The mind ( 5 ) has to develop his 4 wing ( to be in touch with his heart ) , and to integrate into eight ( into the instincts,into his body,the gut feeling,and develop some " backbone" so to speak ) . Frederick nietzsche is a great exemple of a 5w4. He talks about hiw he " philosophises with a hammer " smashing norms and traditional thinking,which is basically what 5w4 does. I see that as being the " antichrist " philosopher . The writing of his " Thus Spoke Zarathustra " was his attempt to integrate into his eight. Most of the teachings in his book scream 8 . The idea of the " ubermench" who goes after it.

Spot on. I’m a 5w4, married to a 6w5, who has taught me to express both sides of my five-ness. I definitely have the worst 5 traits, but have seen glimmers in myself of the best 5 traits, and that has brought great satisfaction and joy.

5w4 here. I also have a tendency towards 1, as you said about your father, when it comes to dealing with knowledge itself, as an aspect of work (to be more precise, I finished the test with the result as 1w9) My room is a constant mess, but at work, I expect order and clarity. Playing Peak app improved my confidence in my intelligence, this game taught me that there are different types of intelligence like you mentioned. I have a hard time dealing with people, but I accepted it so I can move on. Smoking weed, just once a month, focused my energy that I usually use to analyze the outside world, to analyze my own self, and with more understanding of myself, I feel relieved. Lately, I've said to myself that every attempt is a chance to improve, and with that, I feel more involved in the actual reality.

Thank you for this! I started my self exploration with Meyers Briggs, but feel Enneagrams provide better understanding. 5w4 who married a 5w6 (yeah, it's tricky, but we need each other, because we don't have any friends, LOL). You have great insights. I'm a strategic communications/education consultant in agriculture - I worked for a trade association for many years, but hated that I was told to provide a certain message. I like to challenge those messages and ended up starting my venture so I could focus more on facts-based messaging. I also do all of my own graphic design (creative). My husband is an electrical engineer and problem solver #1. I'd be interested to see how MB types line up with others - I'm a INTP and my husband is INTJ.

I found this very interesting as I try to sort out which wing is strongest for me. I have tested as both 5w6 and 5w4 at different times in my life. I do think that my 4 wing was primary when I was younger, and my 6 wing has developed over the years

I'm an Infj 5 with 4 wing (85%) and 6 wing (80%). I liked your video and had a jaw drop when you talked about "house cleaning". During a 2 year periode i had with active healing ppl, i did some of this too, just bc it was a part of helping the family. Anyway: i relate to what you say and you say it in a nice way, so thank you :)

Even if enneagrams are like astrology, analyzing them as Dr. LaHue does here is VERY USEFUL for writing great characters. Thank you!

7:13-8:30 is spot on! I'm a five and I never could have explained that so well.

This is a really interesting comparison, thanks a lot for making it! I'm more familiar with MBTI, Enneagram being on my "todo list" for a long while. I was pretty sure that I'm a 5, but I wasn't sure about my wing. Now I understand that I'm a 5w4, having an artistic side and also the interest for dark things. Although, I'm working in a technical field, and I can relate to a lot of 5w6 properties. As I look back into my past, I definitely see the slow shift towards 5w6 (I was much more a 5w4 10 years ago). So this probably means that I became more balanced, which makes me pretty happy. As a side note, 5w4 seems to be somewhat congruent with the INTP type, 5w6 being more similar with INTJs. This doesn't means that INTPs can't be 5w6s (or vice versa). Probably a healthier INTP shifts towards 5w6, and an INTJ towards 5w4, like you said.

5w4 - 12:30 5w5 - 20:15

I'm learning more about myself because of this.

Everytime I think I've figured out my wing I end up back at square one. I feel like I'm right between 5w4 and 5w6. 🤔 I never know enough lol

I'm struggling between 5w6 and 5w4, pretty sure I'm 6wing but I share more 4wing interests like art and such. Very intriguing but difficult.

Wow...I mean just wow..I got to learn and realise so much from just this one video..Your way of explaination is very detailed and holistic..great work🙌Thankyou so much

A couple 5w4 thoughts: I agree that leaning in a 6erly direction can help 'ground' the Iconoclast in reality and reduce the negative effects of isolation. On the other hand, the valid lesson that the 4-wing has for the 6-wing goes beyond just the admonition to listen to your feelings. It may well be that the very social systems the 6 clings to for safety are in fact the cause of great harm -- harm to others (defined and dismissed by 6-energy as 'outsiders' (Syrophoenician women, and the like)) but also unrecognized harm to the social-clingers themselves who suppress the recognition of even their own needs. The intersection of 5 and 6 is where we find all the argumentation that the status-quo is really just fine as it is, and where we insist that we need things to 'just get back to normal' as quickly as possible, with no recognition that 'normal' can be a living horror for many. It represents the impulse to exonerate 'normality' with a wave of the hand and pathologize those who are different. If 8 is the direction of integration for the 5, then a 5w4 who doesn't shy away from sharing their insights about the deep inconsistencies, contradictions, and injustices of 'the way things are' is bringing their necessary gift to the world. Punching holes in people's belief systems for the thrill of watching others squirm is immature and, frankly, facile enough that a good 5w4 should think it beneath their skill level. On the other hand, there is usually a point to the morbidity or darkness that should never be ignored. If the 5w4 was heeded, we would long ago have addressed structural racism, patriarchy, and human-caused climate change. Pink Floyd's "The Wall" is maybe one of the 20th Century's most pointed artistic expressions of the 5w4 energy. The imagery of school as a mass-production factory, grinding students into meat, the retreat and disconnection from a hostile world behind a wall, and the climactic manifesto of "Another Brick in the Wall Part III" speak to the extreme frustration that many 5w4s probably experience in a world seemingly built to keep them down and out: "I don't need no arms around me. And I don't need no drugs to calm me. I have seen the writing on the wall. Don't think I need anything at all! No. Don't think I need anything at all!"

being a horror writer and being an exorcist are basically the same thing on some level

I love this information. I have an iconoclast daughter and knowing her personality helps so much. Also helpful is that I have come across Dr. Heiser’s books and videos and I have enjoyed teacher her about this and it seems to open up the Bible to her. She seemed untouched by it. She has always been drawn to thriller movies and books so I’m happy to help her face that world in a way that is empowering vs. ensnaring.

5w4 The Iconoclast: "must. destroy. all. belief. systems!" This made me laugh because I am a 5w4, I am constantly questioning all belief systems.

My wings are definitely balanced. I’m pursuing a degree that is fairly new in higher education, but lucrative enough that I will find a job, and innovative enough to make me feel individualistic. I love fantasy, mystery; watching media that will touch my emotions in a special, touching, bittersweet way. And I love math; it’s my favorite subject after all and it is pillar for my degree journey. Overall, I’ll always lean towards 5w4 but definitely am almost a 50/50 with having both wings.

Lol. Trying to solidify if five is my type and you saying the 5 is ‘prickly’ is so amusing cuz that’s how I’ve always been described.

Thank you for shearing this information... I am a Type 5 and this video has opened more doors in my inner self... gives me a lot more understanding of my own persona. God bless

Great content as always but I felt like you gave 5w4s a bad rap with the dark/weird angle. While it's true that we care less about what others think about us than 5w6s, 5w4s tend to dress and present themselves in a more socially appreciable way due to their image conscious 4 wing. Instead of "odd", we are generally seen as "eccentric."

I think 5w4 is correct for me. I never really vibed with that saying of the type you dislike most or feel most shamed by is yours, no matter how many things I read or watched (and I've been doing that for far too long). But you really put things into perspective because it was worded in a way that it hit a deep part of me - shame. Genuinely felt shame, not discomfort or anger, a real sense of 'crap that sounds really bad bc I DO THAT'. That's not to say that I am offended or anything, I'm actually almost relieved bc this should mean I finally nailed my type. Thank you for all the detail you give, the examples really help too. The cost of isolating myself and how I do this...I hadn't been aware this was how it came across. As a child, I used to have no clue that being annoyed at interruptions to my reading was causing others to leave me alone though thankfully I am a little more aware now. It's still difficult to fully understand that not sharing anything about my personal life can be seen as abrasive as that's never my intent. Or wanting to shake up someone's belief by questioning why they think what they do. I didn't realise this can actually appear like I'm telling someone they don't really know what they're thinking, or rather that they wouldn't appreciate it as widening their perspective, like I would. I will be watching more of your videos on helping each type. As for the demonologist comment, that actually sounds incredibly interesting. I used to think being a cursebreaker or something similar in Harry Potter sounded like the most exciting thing ever.

1w9 here. Very good videos so far, I'm finding them very useful. I'm an atheist, I appreciate you keeping religion to a minimum - please keep that up. I can also see 5w4's having an interest in Demonology, but only because it's dark. Can't see many 5's believing in a god of any kind. Thanks 🇬🇧

Best description that differentiates 5w4 vs 5w6 hand down. Thank you.

Alright you convinced me i am 5w4. Because of the way you described the way we are drawn to the esoteric side to put it in realistic context to know more about the unseen and understand it in a scholarly way yeah. Although i am more balanced now Good job dude 👍

I'm a INTP 5w4, but i have a lot of things in common with 5w6 and love math and physics...

5w4, INTJ, schrizotypal. Interest: MBTI, metaphysical (manifestation) or spirituality. Psychology. Chess/RTS. Career: business oriented (marketing analytics) and pursuing a neuroscience BS for fun. Entrepreneurial.

I'm an infj-a type 5, and I am agree, I have friends but they all lifelong friends who has passed all my filters 😅 my filters are all about sense of trust and loyalty. Ironically they all infp lol introverted thinkers with high morals as well 🤣 🤷🏽‍♀️. About my type 5: I am not cold or unemotional, I feel empathy, love, compassion to the deep. But I have this wall where not everyone gets to see that part of me but my closest love ones. With strangers, new ppl I'm not cold but I have solid boundaries. When under stress I isolated myself in my house, the "crazy" thing is that I can isolated myself for long periods without actually craving ppl, when I isolate myself I don't really feel depressed neither bored bc I use this periods to improve myself, learn something new, do things that I enjoy, or think about an issue that bothers me, focusing in the solving more than get stuck in then actual problem or being sad about it. Is not like I'm trying to scape from feeling sad, but the act of being sad I see it as unproductive. I always had say crying will not pay my bills 😅😂. Yet when I see my love ones sad, I do emphasize, and I do my best to find a solution to their problem or find way to make them feel care for ( if they want my help) / bc I don't like to being pushy

I am a 5 with a 6 wing (INTP). Life is short and people are too preoccupied with shollow endeavors. They don't evaluate themselves and / or others to try and determine why we exist. They don't question if their thoughts are thier own or just regurgitations from others... I appreciate genuine thought. However, genuine thought rarely occurs. It's not that 5's aren't interested, we aren't shallow in our thinking. 5 with a 6 wing have gut feelings. We rely on them along with our data because we have analyzed them and verified them and a dependable source.. Yes, I do find that funny... and true!

Both wings are important for balance & straight flight.

Is anyone else here that's a 5w4 incredibly frustrated with the stereotype that 5s are just emotionless computers? My 4 wing is really strong, so while I'm reclusive and withholding and love to learn and hate intrusions into my space, I also have great social skills, and am incredibly creative and self-aware about my feelings. My friends and I are doing an enneagram zoom series and I don't feel like anyone is really understanding me....they seem to think I've mistyped myself. I guess it doesn't matter, but I'm wondering if any other 5w4s are feeling similar about the stereotypes.

as a 5w4 bestgore really do be the best

I use both wings strongly, this was pretty spot on. I think my high involvement in sports helped my cooperation with others and being more balanced as a 5 wing 4+6. I was independent young, so I had to learn street smarts quickly. It feels like a strange personality if I'm honest as a female especially.

5 with balanced wings, all I have to say is the internal struggle is real.

It tends to show itself when due to pain in interpersonal relationships. It's a coping mechanism that becomes a skill.

So true ...since I was a child I have always been attracted to dark, esoteric, paranormal things ...well, I mean, since I began to read! And then I discovered I was a 5w4 ...all makes sense.

Personally, I feel like I'm split down the middle of 5w6 and 5w4 traits. Started my life as a computer science / math guy. Did well in IT / computer repair / programming for a while, but as I got older I got so tired of dealing with shitty corporations and working towards other peoples goals. Decided to flip the old model of employment the bird and do my own thing. Now I'm a freelance author. Also, I've always been very much into videogames / sci-fi / fantasy and dark/taboo stuff. So I identify with both to a large extent. My test results say 5w6 but I feel like I lean more toward the 5w4 now, based on its description.

For me on the topic of being a minimalist its more on the fact that I like to be organized and know where stuff is, in that i know what i want and i know where it is, and since we aren't strong feelers we dont get attached to stuff or things that evoke feeling. For example I don't buy numerous pillows or candles or posters because I dont need them and i can get by with the things i already have

INTJ 5W4 here, just discovering more about the Enneagram. I never understood why I resonated with most of the INTJ traits but not the mathematics and hard science aspects that 'stereotypically' INTJs are supposed to be good at and like. I think 5w4 wouldn't necessarily be drawn to demonology in-depth because of the lack of facts and data. There could be others who disagree, but I guess I am talking just for myself here. I'm never interested in Philosophy because its open-endedness frustrates me, but respect and understand why others may find it interesting and I recognise it is a subject someone should talk about. I type 5 with 8 being the 2nd highest then 4 so maybe that makes more sense why? I don't think I know enough yet about it all but that's my assumption from what I know so far 🤷‍♀ Also, thanks for the video!

I'm an ISTP, LSI-HDCN subtype and I'm either 5w6 or 6w5. I relate strongly to both of them.

I’m at 5w4, and I do exactly what you said, taking great effort to have no needs so there are no needs that can’t be met. I never even realized this is something a lot of people don’t do!

This video was really good! You are great at explaining Dr. I think I am balanced type 5..my both wings are almost on same level that's why sometimes I get 5w4 or 5w6.

I am 5w6. My diploma thesis and its defense gone terrible. I had a bad "gut" feeling since day 1, my scientific adviser was cold and undecisive with me. I didn't like the name of work and thematics, because I live in unadvanced part of Russia, there are very few places where I could do the research, add the law binds (medical speciality, I am bound to couple of hospitals) I was doomed to fail. I wrote an ok text with little to no scientific significance, later in Moscow I kinda did what I've been supposed to do (on small scale), but the bad taste still remains. Trust your intuition it won't fail you.

I don’t correlate subject interest with enneagram wing. 5w4s can be just as into science and tech as a 5w6.

what if you can’t figure out your dominant wing? i was switching back and forth between “i’m a 5w4” and “im a 5w6” the whole video

I feel like both 5w6 and a bit of 4. I want to be useful in unique ways. Except the people part.

Just wanted to add that if there ever was a religious system that most reflects the 5 w 4 type, it would be Gnosticism. It is completely esoteric and exactly along the lines of how a 5 w 4 would think, and the end result is exactly what the highest expression of 5 would acheive: gnosis. Knowing without knowing (intellectually), direct oneness with sources rather than through thinking and intellect.

INfj 5w4 heavy 4 wing and I completely agree

Keep up the good work!! Miss you guys!

I am 5w4, I forced myself to turn my emotional side off. It hurts a lot when I am not wanted or when I get hurt emotionally. It hurt so much it’s annoying to me. So I’m learning how to detach and not take stuff that seriously.

Wow you might really love learning cognitive function theory behind alot of those mbti types and theory behind it though in depth. Basicslly here : 5 is a Ti hero clearly. And you then advised 5w6 Balance that with ur Ti (introverted thinking) pairing with polar relationship to Fe (extroverted feeling). And then you basically say also 5w6 balance that overused Ti hero with ur heroes opposite attitude so Te (extroverted thinking) 😂 this is so cool. And amazing how you’re (I think unknowingly ?) literally defining those things in a diff system of understanding humans 😂so cool. I think enneagram and cognitive function theories go really nicely together and compliment each other very well so hopefully you’ll go learn that and add it to ur system that’s my selfish hope 😂 but honestly I think you and people here would likely find it interesting and helpful too!

I think it is likely sexual 5s are mostly 5W4. Self preservation 5s are likely 5W6. Social 5s are likely evenly spread because 4 is about human emotions, and 6 is about working in groups of people. Do you agree??

I don't think wings are an either or but more based on life stages and current conditions. I think of wings like those that you fly with and like an angel or bird you dip them to turn what gets your attention. An acquisitive wife/ husband may threaten their energy levels and desires for self reliance and boundaries with desires in conflict with those minimalist instincts they have.

"Smashing icons" I'm exposed 😂

Right! Stephen King IS a 5w4 and an INTP!

I often associate myself to others as an old dragon that feels safe sleeping on their hoard (avarice). 5w4 is where I’ve consistently landed

I'm a 5w4, and I'm fascinated by serial killers. 😆

I think us 5w6 limit our needs out of fear of being disappointed. If you don’t have the need. You will not be disappointed when someone does not meet your needs. Also, limiting what you need helps you to not focus on those things that are not important. For instance, dressing in a suit to go to work is pointless…..the suit doesn’t help me do a better job.

this was so awesome, thanks

18 minutes: Hang on, you can become a demonologist? Why has no one ever told me about this? which universities offer this? Are there scholarships? (5w4sx).

I wonder how much our upbringing influences our enneagram types. My brother was a very difficult child. He had a meth addiction and was in trouble with the law a lot in his early teens, so I made the decision early on to not need much from my parents. I didn't want to overburden them, and my needs felt so small compared to his. I feel like this plays into my five type quite a bit. Which came first? I was also a lot more social and extroverted as a teen, but I'm now quite withdrawn. I have chronic Lyme and am often low on energy so I feel like I've sunken farther into trying to preserve the energy that I have. It's hard to break the cycle of energy avarice when you are literally chronically unhealthy 😩

5 w4 could be someone with the gift of discerning spirits as listed as a spiritual gift from God’s word 💚

My goodness, I'm a Christian too. I totally am interested in all the things!! I'm a 5, not sure of my wing.

Variety is the spice of life,same as emotions👌-developing type 5

Thanks a million for the explanation.I have one simple question.Can a person,through time,change types?I mean shift say from type 1 to say 9?

You need a few more examples of 5w4s. Here are a couple: Kurt Cobain and Jodie Foster. A nice fictional 5w4 is Beth from Queen’s Gambit.

i used to get 5w4 in my early tests years ago but i got 5w6 recently. i felt like im still on the fence which wing am i really

I'm definitely a 5. But I can't figure out what my wing is.

Im still debating if I am a 5w4 or a 4w5 But I can love being with people.... and yet I have had many dreams where I exercise demons. hahaha

Are these wing types distinct from social/self preservation/sexual subtypes?

I love your comment about Christianity and demonology. 5w4 and I’ve typed INTJ female although sometimes I wonder if it’s INTP. The stuff I’m interested in as a female seen taboo and counter to what females should like and want to research and study. I’ve felt so bad for a large part of my life because what I am naturally drawn to seems counter to what I should focus on as. Christian. I struggle with that quite often like how does Jesus fee about me wanting to understand things that are dark rather than just staying away because that’s what I’m taught as a Christian! What do you think? Thanks

lol I just found your channel now. Where have I been? According to this, I lean more toward 5w4. However, I don't like the idea of being "odd" in a nerdy, socially inept, low class person way. I also try to appear attractive, but I don't want people to know that I try to do so (this self concept is pretty similar to type 3 SP variant according to Beatrist Chestnut). The image I try to cultivate is "to appear attractive without even trying". My desire, fear, and especially my BEHAVIORS are all stereotypical type 5s, but I do have this 4 or 3 (or 4w3) desires and fears mixed up as well. Is instinctual variant at play here? At this point I'm 95% sure I'm social variant, and it's more likely So/Sp than So/Sx Or is it more tritype at play? My tritype is probably 548 or 538, leaning more towards 548. I lack 3's desire although I have their fears. I don't go out of my way to be successful. Hanging up on worldly "success" feels so shallow and low to me. This is my 5's style of detachment, being detached to worldly things and needs, minimizing them, acting like I don't need them (although honestly I do, and acknowledging them was one of my journey for self healing). Back when I was younger I was VERY disgusted by people that chase success and worldly affairs because I think they are so shallow and "try too hard", but on the other hand I also envy them and feel insecure to them (this is obvious 4 at play). All things else, my MBTI is INFJ, which doesn't help either. It brings TONS of contradicting traits inside me, complicating things even further in my journey to understand myself. Thank God at least I'm INFJ-A variant, so I'm less neurotic (and unfortunately more narcissistic). I may sound like a little like elitist jerk in above text but I'm just being honest to what's going on inside my psyche. I'm anonymous on the internet anyway. If you'd like to have a little discussion, feel free to comment on my post. Thank you.

Thank you so much for sharing.

How do i fix this social element of my type? I dont like it.

5w4 vs 5w6 12:05

Can you expand on the wings of the five with the subtypes as well? Because I'm still not quite sure which wing I lean on more.I have seen in times of my life when I am more four versus six that I was leaning towards but I want to see what that looks like in regards to my subtype I'm still kind of iffy between social versus one-on-one for my subtype but I think if you put it in regards to the wings what a five-wing four social looks like versus a five-wing six social or one-on-one I think that would clarify it for me at least a little bit better.

Mic is louder but def much more crisp 👌

I have a strong 4 5 and 6 and can't seem to narrow it down. My wife and family think I'm a 4 I relate mostly to a 5 but test a 6. I guess I'll never know. I have a lot of traits of all 3.

5's don't want to be the "pain in the ass" that they have experienced in others.

With a title like that you think that this video would be all about the wings but the first 12 minutes are all just about the five themselves not about the wings at all

I think I'm a 5w4 with a fairly developed 6 wing as well

Great analysis, this was really insightful. As a 5w4 I can definitely relate to most of what you mentioned. I tend to go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole, which can get pretty dark, but I just want to understand everything as completely as possible. I also like Dr. Michael Heiser’s work on the unseen realm. I do tend to gravitate towards ‘softer science’ such as psychology, philosophy and theology and can get tired of the rigor and structure of hard science. My head is always in the clouds lol. I find that I can move towards the 5w6 when trying to fit into society and in my job (nursing) which really drains me. My partner is an 8 and I read that 8s and 5s typically aren’t the best combination for each other. I read that 8 men and 6 women tend to pair up commonly, so I wonder if I try to wear a 5w6 hat too much which leaves me feeling drained. But then again, as you mentioned, it may be good for balance. Food for thought.

about you saying 5w4’s could be demonologists, i took it as a compliment, seriously LMAO

Entp 5w4 here ! Yeah an extroverted 5 I'm a rare breed