@@ohtorikanae so you know he wasn’t the godfather’s biological son… and was raised in complete secret behind closed doors to the point where he basically only knew how to read and that idols = good. apparently he was taken in by the godfather only because he was pretty and stuff and it’s unknown who or where his real parents are and where and how the godfather got a hold of him and there is a chance that he was in fact trafficked and then taken in. idk if my explanation makes sense but yeah many things check out
as someone who clicked on this video to learn more about enstars, i feel like i just watched a criminal documentary.. some of these are so scary out of context???
Ok so I am a VERY new player who was introduced through the English version and the amount of times I had to pause this to go “what the actual FUCK” is truly astronomical
Enstars plot really can get messed up and hypocritical too, the war caused people to take their own life by jumping off the school rooftop to the point people assume that anyone going to the rooftop is gonna jump off, but Tsumugi always talk about it like "Eichi took the path that required the least sacrifice" bro........... They all need therapy
I want a video talking just about the war, no matter where I look I can't seem to find enough info about it. I know what it is, but I want to understand more, you get me.
I think that even if eichi didn't start the war, there would have been a lot of chaos and suicides. Entertainment companies stopped taking yumenosaki students (which is what prompted the war in the first place), so the students wouldn't have had a career opportunity after graduation. They would have seen their dreams dying before them, much like they did during the war. If the war didn't happen, it's likely that people would stop going to yumenosaki entirely and the school would close.
slight addition to the rei timeloop theory: it also came about in direct response to the ending of ensemble girls, which... *was* an actual timeloop. literally. the main character (anzu’s brother) had to choose a girl to be with at the end of the year to break the loop or something it was weird as hell
I wish Engirls was more accessible I only got into a few weeks before they shut it down! But thank you for that insight I never put two and two together about the timing!
for those who are confused about how vague the himeru lore is, I've put an explanation below the cut. (spoilers for obbligato + some spoilers for ariadne below) the "himeru" seen in the main story is impersonating his younger half-brother, who is in a coma as of the !! era. he is impersonating his brother to keep his place in the idol industry and stop himeru from fading into irrelevance. the "real" himeru (the one who is in a coma)'s real name is kaname tojo. the "fake" himeru's full name isn't known, but his last name is also tojo. in short, himeru is not a clone, and (probably) not forty years old. in addition, kaname went to reimei with tatsumi kazehaya and they were, like, besties or something. eventually tatsumi led kaname into starting a revolution over the unfair hierarchical system in reimei which is what ultimately led to tatsumi's leg injuries which are discussed in the main story, as well as kaname going into a coma (the details of kaname's injuries aren't known). kaname looked up to tatsumi, but the current himeru resents tatsumi for letting kaname get hurt even though tatsumi's intentions weren't necessarily bad. listen to yubisaki no ariadne ♡
Thank you so much for this summary! Since coming back to EnStars, I've been unable to find translations so far and was confused about all the Himeru/Kaname contents. Didn't Kanata also recognise Kaname at one point?
@@pomkastel same omg. i have been putting off the anime but i will probably get to it soon. eden lore is so messy even by enstars standards and i wish the game would go more in depth w it
sorry can u elaborate on that more im still new to enstars fandom and all i know about nagisa is that he was adopted many times and this "Father" dude is suspicious ( ; v ; )
@@kminh8743 I recall The Godfather (the super idol who was the foundation of all idols now) secretly adopted Nagisa and kept him locked away from others as The Godfather didn’t want Nagisa to develop any “humanity” (Apparently The Godfather didn’t like humans???). It was only after his death everyone found out Nagisa’s existence and sent him to live with Tomoe Hiyori.
@@kminh8743 ^ yep what they said. and iirc when he first went to live w hiyori they had to teach him very basic things like how to speak & walk, and he was treated more like an object than an actual child when he was with the godfather. i might be reading too much into it but i just find the undertone and certain implications of his backstory very disturbing tbh
ive gotten used to playing games like bandori which has more "classic" ?? and cliché game themes, and getting into enstars was so different but in a good way, all the lore is so interesting and the way the game doesnt hesitate to bring up sensitive topics like self harm, s*icide and other things is pretty cool too. the enstars is a social expeirement part got me thinking, it probably isnt but it is true that the game is marketed quite differently compared to the actual content, which is something to wonder about but tysm for this video it was fun watching it and getting creeped out
Same I've played other games like Bandori and they're good but just not the same story wise. Character wise sure, but the story and lore do not comepare at all.. Enstars really does remind me of a gag story with creepy/serious elements commonly appearing. Edit: spelling
I´m that person who only knows the characters names and half of the songs, basically the only knowledge i had was from watching the first 5-7 episodes of the anime and some info about Leo from the wiki because he rly owns me (and i believe he is Kamui from an idol au) and WTH i thought the baddest thing from enstars was that human bean called Eichi and you come with timeloops, murdering, clones, vampires, cults, cannibalism, pedophile and real life ppl with serious mental issues😭😭😭 it´s 3 am i was scared half of the video besides spanish is my native language so i had to go back in a lot of parts to understand anyways GREAT VIDEO
rei timeloop????? nagisa trafficking victim????????? mika sibling????????? REI RECORDING HINATA SU*CIDE?????????? i came here for memes since i started playing english enst buT now im confused and terrified?????????? edit: hiyori ranking 1 in popularity poll is deserved tho, THATS MY BOY HIYORI!!!!
please just leave shu alone. he had a huge character development and the fact that he was hated in the past makes me feel so sad :( now, he's very kind and sweet towards mika, although i'm okay with the fact he was acting a bit strange with nazuna back then. also, i definitively wanna know what 'maintenance' is
@@cult.leader enstars is hell, don't do the same error as me. once you're in there, you can't go back. say farewell to the small amount of money you saved or to your sleep schedule. it's too late for me, but maybe you can still be preserved. and for the maintenance, i'm pretty sure it's completely seiso ahahahahaha
Shu is the best. I was an EnStars fan for a while... I played the original, and I played the music version, now I simply just stick to EnStars Music's global version but... _wow,_ I had no clue people disliked Shu back then, he's always been my favourite, and I remember the interactions with Mitsuru, and I never really saw it as anything _that_ extreme so, hearing that he was so disliked really caught me off guard.
@@MechanizedAngelz yes, when valkyrie was introduced, many people disliked them because of the story with nazuna, or the way shu treated mika. since then, there are a lot of haters that don't know how they improved, and it's pissing me off. there're also people who simply are homophobic and when they saw that mika and shu were really close, they couldn't take it... it's just stupidity that led them to being hated honestly -_-
Wait, it's just heavily hinted that Suzu & Mika are twins, never outright confirmed! IIRC the graduation epilogue of EnGirls mentioned that Suzu met up with a "older or younger sibling". The Rei timeloop theory is fun & all, but ! isn't a timeloop. However, !! takes place during the same year as EnGirls. And EnGirls *is* a confirmed timeloop. And what's more, Leo has met Ruri, aka the actual alien that's responsible for the whole timeloop mess in EnGirls. And he's referenced Ruri on multiple occasions. So my theory is that if there *is* a timeloop, that Leo is the only one who's aware of it. Because even if he is, no one would believe him.
i'm sure that the Rei Timeloop theory could be an entire video on it's own since the website is really creepy and adds to the story. I also think that the theory does have multiple branches to expand on although it does get really dark at some points. Really good video by the way!
God this took me on a memory field trip, I miss old enstars it was quite the experience and would do anything to be there, YES even the nights spent grinding to not get kicked out of rank
I actually went to do the quiz and holy crap it is actually quite hard how come lines from an idol game would be confused as quotes from classical Russian literature
11:41 i want to explain this one in a bit more detail cause i think its funny, but in prologue of shinsengumi hokuto reads madaras name and makes a pun as the english word "murderer" is written maadaraa in katakana, which creates "murderer mikejima" there's a bit more detail to it on the wiki if anyone's curious!
Can i ask which wiki exactly do ppl read their stories cuz I’ve been searching for the longest time and i never understood where do ppl find these translated stories about them. Also im new to the game and i wish to know more about their backstory cuz holy crap there seems to be a lot
i’m an avid watcher of iceberg videos. i’ve never played enstars, and my only knowledge of it (being very limited) is via a small artist i follow on instagram who frequently draws and posts about enstars. i watched this video intending to have a deeper knowledge of this fandom by learning it through a medium (iceberg videos) that i am familiar with. however this video is completely unintelligible to me
Enstars lore is wild as fuck however you have to read the stories and I can't find anyone who explains them so I was thinking of creating a channel to explain each members lore
12:34 so really, the ogmeru didnt stop being an idol, he went under a coma so himeru took his spot (this was made in 2021 before obbligato so i understand)
i’m rlly new to enstars so first of all thank u so much i feel just slightly less lost in this chaotic mess of an idol game also my quick fave became hiyori (let’s see how long that lasts i’m still reading the story) so i need to say 7:58 DESERVE!
Oh wow, I didn’t know a lot about the old enstars stuff and I was surprised. I also saw some of the stage plays, and it’s so upsetting to hear that people would do such disgusting things. But overall the video was super informative thank youuu!!!! (Also I have been using she/her pronouns for Arashi, but have they finally canonically confirmed her gender?!? I want this discourse to end)
For the most part it’s pretty implicitly canon. The Beasts Gacha story goes the most into it and shows the most canon evidence. Arashi really hasn’t got that much stories lately hasn’t she?
@@pomkastel yeah the last one that kinda went into it was one of her Idol Stories for when she had her feature scout. Maybe they’ll have more Arashi since the Knights event is on going
tbh it's pretty complicated i personally see arashi as a trans girl and refer to her with she/her pronouns. but from what i've seen most if not all the players from the non-english-speaking part of the fandom consider arashi a cis male with an "onee personality" which is a common trait found in a lottt of anime characters, so yea it's not canon.
I see her as a gender binary character, and use female pronouns, but it really depends since literature can be interpreted differently by different people.
yknow i got a feeling every character in this game is just fucking wild from playing the first few chapters today but this is like....beyond. what the fuck do you MEAN that one guy is a god
I used to be sooo into Enstars when I was a kid (like.... 7 years ago?) before it was THIS popular. It was just so frustrating how there was so few things that got subbed and then school hits me like a truck so I started to stray away from the lack of time. I remember singing cover songs, listening to the cd dramas, and reading whatever novels and stuff from Enstars that got translated at that time. Missed the good old days. Tbh the lores were confusing as heck even back then, so catching up on it now 6 years later is a bit of an eh
The fact that this game has shipping antis is so insane because have they even played this mess, did they not see the pool of incest and weird age gaps
I just wanted to say ‘fine’ I presume is supposed to be pronounced as ‘fee-nay’ in English as that’s a musical term shown in sheet music sometimes. Pasted from Google, “The Italian musical term fine (pronounced fee'-nay) marks the end of a composition or movement, usually following a repeat command such as D.C. al fine or D.S. al fine. Fine (meaning “end”) may be written in the middle of a song along with a final barline, in which case the very last measure will have a double-barline.”
This video was incredibly in depth and a wild reminder of my enstars days, thank you so much for the work! The stuff with Fuukun (Souma's stage actor) was a really big reminder that he's been facing stuff like this for a long time, since people are still trying to smear him with his work in SideM :(
When i first joined the fandom, it was all innocent and pure, but as i start exploring the heck enstars was.. YEAH, ANYWAYS- (Edit: im still worried about the 'deaths' that has happened recently)
Can ppl justleave shu alone? Yes he did horrible things, but he aint a pedo, ppl just making assumption based on sentences that the writers just put in there to make up for some reasons. The only thing he's ever done wrong was mistreating mika, like ppla need to chill smh
I'm just getting into enstars cause of en realse. I knew it was full of memes but damn I was not ready for all the info. I can see why most fans are worried about previous era story not getting translated....
I literally started playing this game not even a week ago thinking it'd be some cute idol rhythm game, but then I started Double Face's story and it hit me like a truck that they were talking serious about the whole murder thing. Also learning about The War? Real time reaction: "what the fuck." This game is insane, I'm even more insane still playing it lol.
I'm thankful that someone shared ss of this video on ig. Like yeah, I maybe knew most of the things but its so well made. I hope you will make even more enstars videos in the future! And bruh, as fineP how can u not make fun of rainbow circus even a little bit, its the weirdest song in enstars
Anzu might not really exist, We the Producers or Anzu only help when EnSq or Yumesaki is in need of help or, we are only merely spirits that guides both EnSq or Yumesaki when they ask for it, it might really be true…
all i knew about enstars going into this was little bits of weird trivia my friend told me, wataru moaning, and tsumugi aoba being silly and the only character in enstars. my eyes have been opened,
17:26 I just want to share something regarding Ren Ozawa... He is a former VA of Miyoshi Kazunari (A3). Apparently, due to his abusive behavior towards his girlfriend in 5 years. So yeah, he quitted. Miyoshi's VA now is Tomoru Akazawa, btw.. I don't realize if his quit affects Anstage as well, lol. But, there you go...
the trickstarP impersonating KaoruP was actually kinda crazy asf imagine caring so much about a game’s fan base of a certain character that you’d post a self harm pic on the internet abt it 😰
I've just recently got into ensemble stars (since the English release) because i thought it was a fun idol game and it was way darker than it thought it will be 💀 I can't escape now. But I've been reading the ! era stories and I find them fun! I would get the jp game but I have no storage and I don't know how to. Anyways thank you so much for the iceberg! I learned quite a lot :)
