38:53 as an ENTJ woman, yes we sorta stand out and dont fit in, and people do expect woman to act different. but atleast for me...i dont give a damn, they can take it or leave it. the only thing that feels a bit bad is the exact same point, we dont see many people like ourselves and it just sorta feels lonely....
I’m always frustrated... I don’t think we’re very perceptive about how others feel about us anyway, yet still wanting to feel a genuine connection in a world where my nature isn’t “feminine.” It’s hard enough to be truly understood so getting to the level of intimately connecting eludes me.
ENTJ's want others to come up with better plans, but the new plan needs to be proven to be better then theirs. And when you can show this, they will adapt or take on the new plan instantly. It not a arrogant "I know better" mentality, its a "its the best I have right now, and it works" mentality. Sadly people rarely question or give them feedback to show better alternatives, usually due to being intimidation by their confidant persona, I'm assuming. Commonly ENTJ's love surrounding themselves with thinkers in business, at least I do, so I'm constantly rebuilding it better and more efficient.
ENTJs having it easy in the world is a big misnomer that I constantly hear. The world is run by SJ types, getting through them with your ideas and vision for the future instead of their tried and tested bureaucratic methodology is highly difficult and frustrating. Yes ENTJs potentially can be great leaders, however it is the ESTJs that happen to end up in those positions, not only because there are so many more of them, but because they value material and status far more. For ENTJs it's about strategizing and achieving who are overall more abstract, less so than the stereotypical attraction to business environment which is filled with ESTP salesmen, ESTJ middle managers and ISTJ inspectors
thats very true, im good at doing and achieving but my aim might not be in the direction of being the boss or whatever is stereotypically expected of me
Yes, drives me crazy when the SJs head groups I'm in and run them inefficiently. I can see exactly what needs to be done to make everything work better and consequently benefit everyone in the group, but the SJs can't see it and get in the way. Gaaaaahhh!
I’m an ENTJ and have recently went through a phase of mental health issues lingering from my time in the military. This forced me to look inward, and I can absolutely agree with everything Antonia was describing with perspective especially inside my own mind. I fixed myself by looking at my mental health as a process that needed to be improved and made better. I stepped outside myself In order to fix myself. This saved me and made me stronger... You have it right on! I’m not sure how I got here but I’m glad I listened to the whole cast... great job guys!
Im curious about your experience as an entj in the military. Right now I struggle always getting the job done but just a pat on the back. I am the one that no one has to talk to or needs improving (i beg to differ) but it leaves me being ignored alot and left to my own devices.
Christine S - I was quite lucky, my role in the forces was logistics, this allowed me some autonomy within my role where I could take control of things and enforce rules etc... I also had good bosses, they realised my potential and I was given extra responsibility and promoted quickly. So once I held the rank - I had the power and control that I needed. Being in a hierarchy meant that I had power and control and respect which is the perfect role I think.
@@The-ADHD-Exec I definitely have my good bosses and bad bosses. Right now I have my bad bosses, micromanaging and they dont trust me. Its for sure an ebb and flow. I have alot of personality clashes that makes things difficult.
I think sometimes people mistake ENTJ's for being confident when they're really just being fiercely logical. Sure, they can be confident in their beliefs with how much time and effort they spend building them, but they're willing to change at least some of them if they're proven wrong. That's at least how I am, and the research I've done seems to support that conclusion, but I'd be happy to hear other thoughts and opinions. Then again, I've heard I'm more emotionally intelligent and self-aware than most ENTJ's.
At first it's not even our beliefs, it's beliefs of other people that we defend, it's society beliefs, our company beliefs... Te is the function that defend others opinions, like Fe defend others feelings.
I've experienced being "down", but It just makes no sense to stay there. Admittedly, this has made it a struggle to gain an appreciation for those who get down and stay there. I try to be especially empathetic and aware that others may get down and even seem to want to dwell there. However, it's not easy. I think the TeNi mindset always sees a path forward, giving ENTJ's an almost immediate set of options to engage, so the dwell is more of a pause, and then we march forward "future pacing" towards an effective, industrious and efficient path and action steps.
How about, I listen to what you have to say, I ask you questions about it and I'll do it your way if I think it's suitable for what I believe is the best way. (An ENTP)
I question myself all the time. I always examine what I could have done better. However, it’s far more efficient to move forward after proper research. You find the mistake and change your course. Sitting around doesn’t help you move forward. Mistakes are the best experience.
Yes, this was so hard for me for so long. I was shamed into thinking that I was too strong. But today I celebrate my ENTJ-ness! You don't have to like me, feel threaten...you don't phase me and you certainly won't stop me! On the flip side the cool thing is when I began to grow through my Introversive Intuition, I began to see the merit in patience and other people's perspective.
I can´t even express how excited I was when I saw this in my recommended, but let me tell you, I´m not even done with the vid yet and I´m already blown away! I had high expectations and you still impressed me and made me very excited about my type, made my day
it is tough to get to know us ENTJ's, I had a co-worker who always did small chit chat, "Marisa how are you doing?"...How am I doing? Idk I haven't thought about that, lol I'm too busy planning the workday and now you're asking me to internalize how I feel and whats going on in my life AND then express it to you out and openly? lol....thinks to herself while cringing on the inside at that question and replies with..."Yeah I'm doing good, just busy with life...." is normally my typical response, lol omg I hate small chit chat unless its a topic of discussion that really interests me...you have my undivided attention. We are a hard personality type to get to know.
You are 100% correct at 6:25, talking about how insecurity doesn't serve us. I can completely shut my emotions off if they are not being helpful to the task at hand. Also, OF COURSE ignoring my emotions makes them go away. That's how this works.
Wow, I needed this podcast. I'm a ENTJ (age 17). I'm now in a spot where I don't feel like doing anything. And it sucks! How you talked about fearing the bigger game, it got me thinking. Also, I totally agree with the "avoiding inner problems". Last month, one of my better friends said something that caught me really off guard. And I can see myself just avoiding the confrontation with that friend. I'm pretending that nothing happened and still got a bad inner feelings about it. Another topic that I want to name was seeing an ENTJ from a different perspective. The "not so close" people around me think I have permanent confidents and have a "heart of stone". This really botheres me. I don't want to show my emotions but still want to let them know I have them xD. Thank you for releasing this podcast! (Sorry if I made some mistakes in my typing, English isn't my native language)
This is a tremendous opportunity. At a young age you know what your personality traits are and how to maximize your potential and to build meaningful relationships. I was 38 the first time I new I was an ENTJ and it opened my world to how I was perceived and who I was. My development has been impressive since. Being an ENTJ should be seen as a gift. You can do amazing things!! Go for it!!
When I was in high school, I had no idea what to do after. I switch a profesionnal high school in order to work in the IT field. I met my coworker and we talked about going to japan. Don't know how but we ended up travelling in Korea instead. Now I just wanna go and live there because their system suits me. So as an ENTJ too, if I could give you an advice to jump outside of your usual lines, just try to find someone who shares some of your ideas over a few subjects and then may be you will do something new with this person and have a new "temporary" goal (I guess as an ENTJ, you are like me and once you reached a goal you need to have another one coming otherwise your lose your momentum lol) or a bigger goal just like mine ; )
It is very hard being a ENTJ woman, I'm often called a bitch and I often intimidate people. I have a really hard time connecting with men on a romance level. And I sometimes feel lonely BUT then I remember I can't have anyone who can't handle a boss bitch anyways. I need a man who's respectful but also knows how to stand up to me and I haven't found it.
I'm an ENTJ female also. Can I make a suggestion? Don't call yourself or think of yourself as a bitch. You can set yourself up to act out a role you believe when really you have a good heart and want to see and improve things (and sometimes people) around you, but you just have to work on figuring out what other people are thinking or feeling. Then you can change your response to better get what you want without pissing everybody off. That was my biggest challenge, and I still sometimes miss it, but I made a lot of effort to study people's feelings.
As a male ENTJ in this society I imagine how I am received by people is very different from that of a female ENTJ however one of the hacks that has served me in MANY areas of life is to factor in the feelings and even emotions of the people I interact with as part of my strategies and plans. When I remember to “check in” with people on a consistent basis it helps tremendously. Even if it results in learning that I have to change strategies, it also means I learn valuable insight from the person/people involved that makes them feel more valued. When I apply “checking in” to my marriage (going on 15 yrs to an INFJ) it helps me focus on what makes her happy instead of what helps her accomplish a goal. She still tells me I can be a big jerk sometimes but she knows that I really make an effort to show her love and not be a callus jerk. Good Luck
Per Briggs Myer, my personality type is ENTJ-A. I've taken this assessment along with others and they've all been consistently spot-on with identifying my personality type. That said, after listening to this podcast and reading some of the comments on this post, I would say that something is really missing from the analysis of ENTJ's. Nothing in this discussion addresses growth, maturity, and perspective affected by aging. Introspection is also an aspect of some ENTJ's that lends to their growth and their ability to temper many of their personality aspects that they are most known for. As someone in the 5th decade of my life, I'm very different from who I was in my 20's and 30's than am I now. Far more in touch with my emotions than I was then. I think this is true of other ENTJ's as well. Living life and the experiences that come with it have to account for changes in people who fall into certain personality types.
Seems like much of the change and growth you're referring to is accounted for in this vid through discussion of the 2nd function, "perspectives". The speakers consistently refer to it as "high leverage" and crucial for long-term development of ENTJ types specifically. You might be selling them a bit short.
@@tunaste thanks for your response. I wouldn't say I'm selling them short per se. I would say what you've referenced didn't come across are.clearly to me based on what you stated.
@@tunastei agree. For me thought it's not emotions but understanding of things. I will never know or feel emotions but I'm learning to understand them
"Responsibility for the people around them and they wanna be sure that everybody is ok"... I've been my whole life trying to avoid it, but I can't... It's something inherent in my personality. ;-)
This is the most important note I knew about ENTJ growth: in being perceptive and growing your perspective function you don't need to indulge in your painful feelings. It really gave me courage thank you
Finally someone talking about an ENTJ who's struggled with depression. I always hear about them as indestructible and never stopping, this was the first time anyone's said anything about depression and how it effects. As an ENTJ that struggles with depression, I appreciate you.
Your points about trauma are spot on, i was exactly like that DM friend of yours. I was even a DM... Your point about depression is scary acurate. It really works like that.
ENTJ woman is here and yes it’s very hard to be an entj woman, I’ve never understand why I’m struggling in almost everything till I found out that I’m an Entj then I started to understand. Content like this really helps thank you guys although it was very long that I listened to it in 3 days lol but thanks appreciate your efforts
I've noticed this with my female intj friends. They usually date someone who isn't a developed individual or someone who doesn't have a strong personality, because they are only able to control those types of people. On the other hand, I want my partner to be completely their own person, have their shit together, do and pursue what they want, without me having to approve of anything or babysit them 24/7.
as a 36 year old entj i think you will find one of the reasons we dont show a lack of confidence is because even as a individual anarchist we are aware that everything can fall apart if groups lose all their confidence, even when we are close to not coping and group situations are falling apart we will try to show confidence and push to keep everyone in our group above water rather than lose 'everything'. yes we are stubborn in our views and that can(and often is) be problematic... our desire to keep moving groups moving in a direction we view is "right" overpowers our doubt because we have measured the cost of the alternative... and we dont want the alternative
Ooo damn u were spot on about getting stuck in the baby seat with feelings. Exactly what happened to me. Was severely depressed for years tho I didn't cry. I was ANGRY. Got out that loop and have NO desire to revisit that. EVER
13:23 This is probably the first time I have heard someone point that out so precisely and it’s really on point. I fall into this mindset often because I understand exactly what is needed to make long term goals a reality and that it will require so much time and effort that it may ultimately not payoff because a multitude of reasons. So my response is to hold myself back and not give that 110% I know I can give, I could run rings around these other leaders but why bother if It’s not pleasurable for me or because it requires stomping on others and turning into that beast I know deep down.
This is excellent! It's so true that we quickly decide on a course, without questioning whether it's correct, because it so often is. However, when it's wrong, we make a correction, choose something else, make a note of it, and move on. And it's really true that I feel responsible for everyone around me being ok. I thought this was because I'm the oldest girl out of 7 kids (though I have a brother 4 yrs older), and was always given responsibility as a kid. You mentioned patience, which I never thought I had (I'm also ADHD!), but through my religion I have accepted that it's necessary and desirable, so I've learned. The final comment I have as an ENTJ female is that I'm single and I'm not surprised at all! When I was a teenager, I somehow knew that I would never marry or even have 'normal' relationships--it was that 'weirdness' factor that I've had my entire life. But it's fine, because I have music and I find it very satisfying, and I've reached my 7th decade perfectly satisfied with my condition.
I am 40 year old ENTJ and I can say that over time two of the mechanisms I've used to thrive are choosing to evaluate at least 3 different paths before pursuing one and to figure out if and where I can incorporate back ups in case those fail. I came to marriage late as well. A relationship trick I've learned is to completely remove myself from certain aspects of coupled life that my partner enjoys. For instance, my husband is OBSESSED with decorating. It's not my wheelhouse, I don't worry about. He just does his thing. It makes him feel appreciated and expressive and gives me one less thing to do. If I've removed myself from it i don't have to give feedback on it other than compliments because I know he's proud. We have a few places like this in our relationship and I just stay out of it. We are different generals in different wars. He needs space to practice his methods and I need space to practice mine.
Wow! You really catch some of my personality. Is true, sometimes I saw videos and ignored it, saved for later, I don’t have the time right now... I administrated my time with dedication. In the past I try to make everyone happy and sacrify myself but just give me lacks and inner pain. I learned to read alone aven before to walk. The thoughts and emotions I have been working for most of 2 decades with stoic, Buddhist and Tao practices, also I always apply the Kaizen in my work. Adicional of that I’m a 11 in numerology (I don’t pay much attention of that but some friends in the medical field practice that, and provide me their wisdom, make sense in one or other way). Have been a struggle in the past but I keep forwards, analyzed everything of how was my performance to change it and always be a better version of myself, more pure and alienated to my beliefs, in this moment I can share it to others and coaching other persons; how I saw the world is always noticing how Things work and ways to improvement the things and doing it better, more efficient. I dedicate my education in business and economics (I have a business administration degree being the top of my class), always putting and pushing effectively improvements in administrative system and conditions for the workers and cost reductions, my believes in this field are liberals-progressive in economics and social perspective, I travel really deep to understand it, when something catch my attention I learned everything I can about it. I worked in sales and commissions sales being the best in the state and my team doing great performance as well, even a created a system about it. I can notice patter and how the work and if I decided do something about it. In the friends area I have we share more of 15 years of friendship without drama or problems, friendship in my life are proved been good. And it’s true when I have a musa or diva objet of my dreams, romantics and everything Inner self, in perspective I really love her under the Agape without limitations. I only wish the best for this woman and everything Is my hands I do. Is lonely in this particular area, is not because my expectation of idealized attributes, just I feel attractive to witch I notice are loving, intelligent and secure about herself. I only care of making her world and life better (without drama or poisonous things) with positivity and kindness, and harmony,.when I’m single (as right now) all my energy is deposited in read, help others in their personal development, movies, writing, and work. In this area I’m patience, waiting to be approach because I learned if i go for it... I will be rejected, but sometimes I push myself for it. Never spect something back, helping without waiting something, just the best for that person or group. Im really strong emotional and mentally and in my feelings too, when I feel love is massively and care about this humans beings. Is rare for me be a bad mood or tacking thins personal. I’m really calm, sometimes people don’t understand that, how I can be calm and free of stress. Patience is other key area I dedicated attention because I have issues in some moments. I can’t do things Everyone accept as normal if i feel is against my feelings, belief and virtue, if is not ethical.
I luckily fell into social work at a young age. Through the last 12 years I've managed to achieve a great deal within myself when it comes to emotions and find several opportunities to achieve things that have far reaching implications. The personal growth and satisfaction I've achieved over the years is hard to ignore. I found myself stagnant recently so i switched roles within the company and am now the transportation and logistics coordinator... Actually a fun job but not enough, so I also took on a lead position on the campus floor and a chef on the weekends... (I was previously running their transitional living program and had done so for 5 years)... Though not the most financially rewarding, the personal growth an ENTJ can find, the understanding of self and how to communicate ideas to those less likely to listen, and the ability to put our logical/analytical mind to work helping others... It just seems like i found my place, i am appreciated, my words carry weight and i have an endless list of little projects or problems to solve... And i will solve them, it's what i do.
So first a compliment, the work and analysis that went into this video is admirable and I agree completely that taking the time to figure out which organization methods work saves a lot more time in the long run. Then some feedback, ENTJs are effecient at heart and creating a 43 minute open conversation with suggestions kind of trickled throughout is less effective than having a top 3 list of what concrete and action oriented things they can do to increase their happiness/ output etcetera. Then a thank you for taking the time and expending the energy to see and attempt to reach us with your messaging.
Oh my god! I feel like you, as eloquent as you both are, were speaking directly to me. I didn't quit understand the emotional part, coz I don't go there much, except if things haven't been working for a while, then I'm forced to go there. But you've added a few tools to my toolbox that I'll use. Thank you!
Omg as an ENTP with an ENTJ friend your relationship with your brother resonates lol. Especially when you spoke about ENTJs making hasty decisions and not questioning themselves enough. I’ve noticed in particular that they aren’t as confident as they are perceived but rather prefer execution. We get into disagreements where I can tell there’s a “brute force” mechanic in play that sometimes disregards the importance of listening and I can tell this type would rather be efficient than flexible. As an NT I know many entjs and they seem to have trouble connecting with others unless they tend to be “smaller” personalities or other nts who can see where they’re coming from.
I was all into woo woo stuff earlier until i got more experienced in life and have developed my logic more, tho i understand the others who think that way and never do consider them crazy. I like to call myself an agnostic person since I've found about that term, I've come to the place when I was maybe 17/18 where I'm always 99% sure about stuff, leaving that 1% to chance and the unknown. I believe fully and truly only in myself :')
Tho sometimes i think I'm crazy when some stuff just come to me because of Ni and I don't believe them but they 99% of the times turn out to be right and true! And i hate when people don't listen to me, they never do, but i understand why because the subconscious pattern connecting is weird to my own self, too. I don't always see how i connected something at first, let alone other people. It's just a strong feeling that that's what's happening or that's what's going to happen. Truly a woo woo stuff when you don't see the whole process
Wrong? When I'm wrong? I don't understand the comment. Please explain in a way that makes sense. All kidding aside, the video is quite good. One area I think they're off is essentially saying ENTJ'S get welded to a "template.' When evidence is presented that a process or method doesn't work, ENTJs are the first to discard a poor template and embrace change. It's a drive where we must do so, not just an alternative. Also, the stereotype of "evil CEO dumping toxic waste" is probably not an ENTJ, but rather a socio- or psychopath. Yes, sometimes at a quick glance one can confuse an ENTJ with a sociopath, you have to look at more than one snapshot of actions.
Three reasons to arrive to conclusions faster: a) it may be useful or needed at that point b) it is less anxiety inducing for us than no action and waiting waiting stand by and c) you can always revise as needed with relevant information and reasoning. I have never seen myself as successful, no matter what, just as a loner, misunderstood,feeling energized around the right people but disliking most,
I like how you mentioned about ENTJ women challenges into this podcast. And how you explained the sense of being misuntrstood and the constantly questioning ourselves within as the worlds judges us from the outside when we in fact should be re"As female, unque challenges and problems because people don't wanna receive you well. As gender role projected to you." And how younger women end up being frustrated! And as we grow up we tend to have figured out the pathways in between the jungle. I have really enjoyed it thank you for your contribution in the betterment of other people's lives!
Just recently I stumbled upon the Myers-Briggs personality test. Learning about the different types, and my own has really helped me. I would joke with my friends I’m a touch OCD because I would be compelled to organize, or have fun reorganizing my things. My natural hate for repetition I thought was just another quirk. And dysthymia, I had never heard of that until your podcast. That section was enlightening. I find these things to be very true to my personality. I viewed most people’s logic flawed since my own yielded better and faster results. I couldn’t understand how someone would go down a pathway that had so many detours and obvious pitfalls. I feel proud being apart of the ENTJ minority, the FEMALE minority. But at the same time, it’s a real difficulty. I admit I felt hopeless that my personality was beyond that of what someone could understand. Patience and mildness comes naturally in an abundance for me. I believe the reason is that I’ve been blessed with a very loving, fair and intelligent family. When I first read the ‘official introduction’ on the Myers Briggs website, and even a book my friend had on it, it was very off-putting. For one, I am not ruthless or cold. They played that up too often and didn’t go much deeper. 60% of the stuff I didn’t agree with, while the 40% was truer than I’d like to admit. The ENTJ way to do things is aggressive, but we ourselves are not always tyrants. I am the truth to that. I do not appreciate my type in other videos showing aggression. It’s not true. I actually have a very bubbly and welcome demeanor. I don’t point this out just to do it or show I’m unable to look past the parts that don’t apply to me, it’s so you’ll be able to cover more versatile ENTJ. Your podcast dove so much deeper and I really appreciate that. I do disagree with the ‘ceo’ title being thrown into anything and everything related to this type. I believe some of my fellow ENTJ know striving for riches is a dead end. My goal is a balanced life, ultimately much less stress and a more fulfilling lifestyle. Despite believing this to be the ultimate truth, I know it’s just viewpoint. I would really enjoy a larger segment dedicated to the everyday struggles of ENTJ women. What you have already really only skimmed the surface. Many problems arise when you don’t fit ‘in the mold’ so to speak. And making friends is very difficult. I keep most things to myself which people take for distrust. In your older video ‘ENTJ Personality Type Secret’ It brought out the part on loyalty. I...feel like that is the most misunderstood part of an ENTJ. So thank you. Even I myself couldn’t put it In exact words, but you two did beautifully. Last thing, and this is my biggest dilemma as an ENTJ. Just recently this happened. A close friend of mine came to me seeking comfort after they had an altercation. My friend was in the right, but how they responded was very immature and would cause obvious problems for them in the future which put them also in the wrong. I tried my best to be tactful in replying to him that his thinking was very bent and he couldn’t continue this way. I was so nervous. In the end, I was still harsh and overstepped my bounds by telling him what he should do very matter of factly. He lashed out... We made up and are still friends. Yet...I know deep down he feels I wasn’t on his side because I didn’t blindly coddle him. He doesn’t share anything important to him with me anymore. The reason I share all of this today is because for once I feel understood. I want to help you understand ENTJ as much as you can. Only you know if this is helpful or not. This is what I think.
You might not be an ENTJ...patience NEVER comes naturally, it's something that has to be nurtured and we still struggle to employ it, even when we know better and its most efficient!
It's a great podcast, very into the point for ENTJ to develop themselves. It will be great to hear more about how ENTJ work/cope with other types which are very different from them, such as ISTP and ESPF. I feel this kind of goal oriented why of work sometimes create natural tension with others, especially those who doesn't care/like about goals and deadlines. In Sweden there's almost no issue for women to be ENTJ, but definitely big issue for been pushy and controlling.
I’ve found that I cope by mirroring. And I do this less from a place if needing to change, but in order to elicit the unity which I perceive is necessary in order to move together toward whatever finish line there is. Sometimes I feel inauthentic and/or concern myself with whether or not others around me feel ‘used’, since I’m aiming to connect to them as a justified means to an end. But the concern is less from a place of hurting others feelings in general, but that hurt feelings will lead to less cooperation/collaboration. And so, then, I periodically tend to feel like a douche. 😕
As an ENTJ; my hardest relationship with my immediate connections is my Father. We love each other, but he's an ISFJ. It's a grind just to try and understand one another. I'm efficient. He's efficient. I like new ideas. He doesn't. It's sandpaper being used to achieve cohesion. It's as difficult to achieve as blending oil and water like oil is gas and water is fire. I still love the fvcker though lol.
As an ENTJ, when I was younger, there was this one incident where I lost patience with my friend after waiting on her fore 20 mins, when she finally reached me I shouted at her because I was so angry and upset. After that I felt so embarrassed that I hurt her feelings so I made a mental note to work on my patience, now today a whole hour have to past before I become ansty
The story about the DM in Alaska, that’s sorta my position. I’ve excelled at my job to a point I can’t proceed any further, because of this it’s become boring and stale, however I work from home and have the freedom to do as I wish, and of-course I play video games, which is a time killing past time hobby I have the time and freedom to do now in my current situation, something I didn’t previously have the time for. Covid has sorta created a stagnant position for me I can’t seem to crawl out of, and my wife, bless her heart, has a sort of driving personality type herself. All these factors have sorta cemented myself in a unmotivated still position, work wise i seek more, however personal life I’ve somehow found contentment that blocks me from wanting to move forward. I suppose I’m not the only one dealing with this struggle.
@ 25:00 where one of the hosts brings up an analogy of an ENTJ being a car and noticing there’s an issue with the car to address. He goes on to say that the check engine light activates and the ENTJ would see it as more efficient to snip wires instead of stopping to understand and fix it. As an ENTJ it is far more efficient - in my humble opinion - to address the problem head on rather than let it fester into some catastrophic event down the road. Preventative medicine / proactive planing / contingency’s is typically the best response to these kinds of things (at least based on my experience). If it is a problem that can be solved or at least prevented until it can be properly addressed keeps the wheels of progress rolling. Awareness of it - the problem or personal inner dilemma - is the first best step toward conquering or over coming it.
I wouldn’t say we get attached to an idea. I’m always open to other perspectives but since I usually get attached to the best idea I’ve researched for it’s hard to break me out of it. For example my atheism..😅 I’m just now starting to question it more because of other peoples experiences…and now I’m more open minded of the afterlife 😂
One of my favourite female ENTJ Characters is Fallon Carrington from the new relaunch of Dynasty. She is a good example of a female figure who is not afraid to step out of the box of traditional female roles, while not compromising her femininity.
So I’m an Entj, and I kinda did need ur advices or even ur analysis of this personality type, I could learn more about myself through you and the other ENTJ persons that you know. I believe we put ourselves in auto-pilot so we don’t feel that much and, indeed finish the tasks at hand.
Antonia, I wonder if you are generalizing too much from your brother, when you hit the 8:30 or so mark. Yes, we make fast decisions (with reliance on metrics, because we are NTs) and we value creative solutions over the usual, tried and true. But what you are missing is the skepticism we apply even to our own decisions. Once we implement a protocol, we are constantly evaluating: could this be more efficient? did this create new problems? how is this working at all points? We are fast to assess but the perils of that quickness are often offset by the fact that we are big believers in metrics. There is no other way to measure effectiveness. We are constantly reevaluating. You cannot reach peak efficiency/effectiveness without that constant evaluation/re-evaluation.
Agreed-- you cannot constantly improve, gain efficiency, find the best way, if you cannot constantly reevaluate, question, change course. And, yes, objective measures are constantly and consistently applied, with the horizon frequently scanned for new information. ENTJs LOVE research and the new ideas, concepts, contrary ideas that come with it... All this astonishment about being open to new ideas is more than a bit off...
I have a question. I’m an ENTJ woman who was a stay at home mom for 13 years, going through a divorce and will be returning to school and work. Career advice for my personality type would be wonderful and appreciated.
Dieyi3ds Nuñez, thank you so much for your reply. When you say “confront your comfort zone”, are you suggesting I analyze the areas I’m already comfortable in, or to confront the areas I’m not comfortable in? Thanks again.
I have a perspective on comfort zone I would like to share(ENTJ Male, 35).. I have realised that some times I have gone into a more dormant (almost disappearing into the crowd) phase and have realised that it was a challenge I had given myself (whether I can manage such a life)... I could only see it after I am out... So would recommend to introspect and see if there is a part in you that has taken a similar task... If you find it, you could go clinical and say 'Hey, I think I have got the idea of how this works... Now, let's have some fun'
I've never really gotten into the Myers Briggs model. But I am a ENTJ according to the model. My partner is an INFJ. I have been attempting to do Shadow work and I'm finding it incredibly difficult. Not that I can't find things within my shadow, but that there's an internal voice merely saying things like 'yeah, so what's. Like a petulant 3 year old. I find it incredibly difficult to tackle feelings, almost like I don't have them. I use the term 'cut away' from anything remotely resembling feelings. Infact the only feeling I can really put my finger on, would be anger. Is this normal? My partner (who also has diagnosed BPD) accuses me of being a Narcissist because I'm cold and unempathetic. Whereas I approach it more like 'just tell me what the issue is, leave out the feelings and let's fix this or that'.
Gee Tee same here. It’s just so frustrating to deal with a feeling type. They seem crazy to me. Impulsive , overly emotional and melodramatic. So much easier to communicate with other NTs.
I’m an INFJ who’s in a fulfilling relationship with an ENTJ man. Everyone is different so I can only give you my personal perspective. For INFJ’s, ENTJ’s can seem heartless based on how differently we process thoughts and feelings so it could come off as narcissism. That doesn’t mean you are. You maybe a bit of asshole though haha. However, opening up to the fact that emotions are necessary and actually exploring them serves it’s important purpose despite your natural inclination will help. Emotions exist for a reason and no one is exempt from their necessity. This doesn’t mean you surrender to them, you just add them to your arsenal. Crazy thing is, healthy INFJ’s are great in helping with that SLOW but gradual process lol As with anything though, you have to care enough to even give opening up a little a chance. You should though. People don’t often pair ENTJ and INFJ together but if done openly, honestly, lovingly and with willingness to bend on both ends it’s literally like having the best of both worlds and never ever gets boring. Think about it.
10:20 spot on. I feel like o give more Ethan I receive, I defiantly do have a Abe of responsibility and duty in relationships and everything, I take it upon myself to help and better a situation, and have quirky time but the problem is I feel alone misunderstood and platonic especially in family dynamics, I got deep into the root causes of emotions hurt and trauma turns out I was neglected and I understand that my mother did what she could at the time and the reason why I didn’t get the emotional support that I was craving for when I was a child wa a because she was not capable of and not because she didn’t want to (well she could have if she was made aware of the situation and decided to to foam thing about it by going to therapy or simply reading a book about how to be a good supportive parent to your child or something) but she had demons of her own that she had to face and still does have them (and it’s really heartbreaking and frustrating for my part because I pointed it out for her but she refuses to comply) she just like the bliss isn’t the ignorance and I see it’s because she doesn’t want to take the accountability and acknowledge the affects of the actions she’s had taken and is taking in heaven Elif’e and relations with herself fans children, it what it is. And ince you’re made aware of an issue (speaking as an entj here) it’s hard to sit back and do nothing about it especially when it concerns family and relationship matters about people who we deeply care for, I used to ignore and when I did push them aside I was maybe more mentally at ease?/leas anxious maybe like I said “ignorance is a bliss” in some situations and specially for those where you can’t change no matter how hard you try ..
Hi ENTJ here! I love D&D as well! I play it with a few of my friends! I play a human Druid! And she. Is. Awesome! I love the game because of the strategy!
I'm an ENTJ Male and I love D&D too. I'm more of a Half-Elf Fighter/Thief or Fighter/Mage class type. Mage and Thief are both Logic/Charisma based and I identify with those stylisms as an ENTJ. You have more access to possibilities with those secondary classes.
Infp here living with an Entj. You nailed it ... thanks. Infp&entj : Having each other's blind spots as dominant functions, it's a thrilling roller coaster ride for both
Im a Maverick(8w7)...always found that people were too much emotional overall hanging to their beliefs and lies to feel true to their mortal self ...and my radical honesty is alien to most (faces stuck on glass on my rationality opinions) . My emotions are garbage...since I get angry, sad, less productivity and dealing with them got me into intp mode for weeks... I rather take the horns than get ram by life. On happy pills, I feel like an ENTP...and INFJ in love...but the horse is ENTJ...and I had bad time to accept it...since I always felt like an entertainer but with a dark side (Like Russel Crowe in Gladiator). So katana mode is always best since I thrive alone on everyday life. My best book is Personality types by Don Richard Riso with Russ Hudson...just knew I was a Maverick last year...afterward I became obsess to master the subject. Love your podcasts, helped me greatly to be a better human being...and It's so good, so many subjets, themes... truly great. Great voices on the subjet! Thank you for the everyday wisdoms.
ENTJ (Harmonizing) here who plays D&D for years. My husband is an ENTJ also (Dominant) and he's our DM. He collects like every mini ever and makes a really cool game every session. He's the type that struggles to reflect inward too. Not sure how to get him to do so.
Not sure why you chose not to mention your brothers name so I wont either, even though I recognized him. What is interesting is that from his podcast and interviews, I saw a strong Ti coupled with Si. His Fe seems to sit comfortably at an inferior position, looks like he wants to influence and help people but at other times rejects it, appearing annoyed. Also the analogies he seems to invent on the spot are fascinating, you can see it in his books as well. His Ne is so good that at first I thought he was an ENTP. But that rock solid Ti-Si of his is envious, I was sure he was an INTP.
I think I may be guilty of the same too... But that was before I had an understanding of who I am... It just felt "convenient" to just expect that gender role if I was already on something of "super important" goal... Sounds extremely selfish but I have never pushed anyone if they did not want that role
Queer cis male ENTJ. I enjoyed this ^^. In particular 10:00, 23:00, and 32:00 min. 4:54 min I assume productivity is always valued across any culture? Can I make up for the inferior Feeling with a Feeling-type relationship? - or is that unstable? It’s my plan so far 🤔.
As a woman entj there is alot of push back and resistance from males in the corporate world. There is a lack or respect or possible sexism that women should not call the shots. We get stuck in a box of you should be acting like a docile woman. Patience and the way we come off would definitely help these pain points but acting like something we aren't is the overall challenge
ENTJ female and I've noticed we're assholes🤷♀️ well im sure we don't mean to be like that but it def 💯 comes off that way. We can get along no problem so long as you're not: lazy, non thinker, unmotivated. I'll ghost ya real quick
Personally I don’t look deep inwards cuz it’s hard. Not emotionally, simply put my feelings don’t have thoughts or reasonings. Trying to figure myself out is exhausting. My emotions just sit there and I don’t understand them and I feel pretty detached from them or what they mean. It’s less being scared to face the truth and more like it’s like trying to learn another language where my beloved extroverted thinking can’t help not understand. I wonder if other ENTJs relate.
I’d say the response the ENTJ brother gave about moving on from his past resonates with me. The past is confusing without all the details or reasons, but it’s nothing as important as moving on and shaping your own outcome.
I have to say the female voice seems to have a disdain for this personality type. It appears she’s speaking through the lease of her personal experiences with her friends/family. Her perspective is skewed. The gentleman seemed more open minded. Not impressed with this “breakdown” of our personality type.
I think this podcast really is interesting. I've always wanted to understand how to read myself let's say. As an ENTJ woman it's always harder to be tough, not very emotional. At work, or in your personal life you always have to explain why you tryna stay to focused or big picture oriented. So it gave me some topics to work on.
To the point of feeling confident, its almost frustrating in the type of society, There used to be a backbone in society now its like walking through a China shop
I think Antonia is blinded by her brother’s outcome in this one. It’s very hard for an ENTJ to get up when all they know is repeated chaos and failure, when the family and work system which should support them in building and competencing and making a name for themselves instead repeatedly destroys them emotionally and physically. I’m not saying her brother didn’t do a ton of personal work but I know an ENTJ, she’s amazing but it’s just one thing after another destroying her efficiency-marshalling and she has to rely more on the competence of others than herself. Which is not a natural ‘midas touch wow look at u go’ situation for an ENTJ. So circumstances play a huge role in ‘are you able to leverage your insane strengths or not’
Future pacing can also work against an ENTJ in certain situations...like coming up against infertility and building new relationships because if you cant build and grow that part... then you manage resources and avoid those destinations.
