Ep. 142: How are They Different? - Traxxas XO-1 & Slash 4x4 Platforms Comparison 

Thank you very much!

The XO-1 and Arrma 1/7 scales have the same wheelbase, so the big difference with them is the motor mounting position, battery layout, and overall weight. It looks like the xo-1's lighter weight actually works against it in some speed applications because the extra weight gives more weight on the wheels for stability, but it's not an unsolvable problem.

Yessir!

Thanks for the great words. I'm obviously a big fan of the Traxxas 4wd platforms. I just wanted to show that you could get most of the performance for a much lower price.

rhouse21 - RC Physics I have an xo1 that I’m tryin to budget build did the stock slash 4x4 cvds work I’m lacking the motor mount the cvds and the diffs so it was very informative to see this vid

Are you able to buy the set as a conversion kit and how much did it cost

I'm in the DC area.

@@RCPhysics LOL No, I meant that I haven't seen anything like this from you lately.

@@stormhawk31 LOL! I've been taking a little RU-vid vacation, but I'm about to start posting again shortly. I've still been filming (a lot) and just need to work through my editing backlog. Check out this post I just made on FB for an update on where this car is now. It's gotten some pretty big upgrades, so look to see some cool stuff from it soon. 😎 facebook.com/rhouse21RCPhysics/posts/1766690580169109

+2cwik4u104 Thank you, sir!

Thanks! The XO-1 driveline is already pretty low drag stock, but there's always room for improvements. Plus, sometimes it's just cool to build something unique simply because you can.

rhouse21 - RC Physics Damn skippy :-) Can't wait to mock everything up and get some footage out of my insane idea. Did you run this weekend?

I had something planned with my daughter, so I couldn't make the RUN DMV event. I did get to do a little testing with the XO-1, though. This car is teaching me about the dark side of buying used. I love it, but it looks like the diff fluid is the wrong weight. as soon as I get around 50 mph under hard acceleration, one of the wheels diffs out and it snaps into a spin. I should have this sorted out shortly, but it's just a pain dealing with this stuff.

rhouse21 - RC Physics Family First :-) Ugh, sucks about the diff issue, I have yet to mess with a diff on a 4wd. Looking forward to seeing what Surley and Dizzy can do with your mad scientist antics behind them.

Same here. I think the XO-1 platform is pretty cool and has a lot of potential to do all sorts of silliness. Good luck!

Thank you!

@@RCPhysics are the xo1s as good as they claim I'm getting one and wanna know my 1k is being spent on what I need and is the speed they claim true ?

+CannibalRC Much appreciated!

You can buy all Traxxas part online. There are a few guys on Ebay that part out cars and you can sometimes get a pretty good deal on everything you'd need to go pretty much anything you want. I'm not aware of anyone selling a complete kit, thoiugh. Still, do some google searches or ask around in the Facebook groups. There may be something out there.

+Wayne Peeples Thank you, sir! I always feel bad posting really long videos, but I try to make them information-rich and interesting.

Funny you mention this. I've actually been toying with the idea of building an off-road XO-1 for a while now, especially since the ARRMA 1/7th scales have the same wheelbase, so I could use one of their bodies to give it the right "nasty" look. Thanks for the comment!

I think an off road XO-1 would be awesome! It's an old thread but would love to hear if you did it. Would love to do that to mine but I'm not that skilled yet.

+Ariel Santiago Good point! It's not an off road chassis and all that suspension action then needs to be limited.

E-revo shocks worked out perfectly. I have heard some guys just use turnbuckles to limit all travel.

+Ariel Santiago Even with hard springs and high speeds, your suspension is doing a lot of work. I have some onboard GoPro footage from inside Dizzy during a 55 mph testing run and I was amazed at how much suspension action was going on. If you replace the shocks with turnbuckles, those road forces still have to go somewhere. Plus, there's a greater chance at least one wheel will loose contact with the ground and spin, sapping power away from your run and potentially causing a spinout.

+Donald “NOT PLAYING1970” Byrd Cheapness is a powerful motivator. LOL!!! Seriously though, I kinda "reinvented" the XO-1 with Dizzy, but saved a few hundred dollars in the process. An XO-1 /Slash hybrid would let someone have an actual XO-1 for about the price I paid to build Dizzy. That's not too shabby.

I understand the reasoning for doing so. I for one am not the type of person to take as many routes as you to achieve the same goals. I will however take a chassis from the X01 and modify it make more from less. Congrats to your projects and hope you achieve the results you are looking for.

+Donald “NOT PLAYING1970” Byrd My wife often teases me about making things more complicated than they need to be. 😌 That being said, one of the points of my channel is to encourage people to engage their "hustle genes" and find creative solutions to life's challenges. If I can inspire a kid to turn a Slash into an XO-1, I might also be able to convince him/her to look at science or engineering as a career field. Yes, I'm trying to use RCs as a gateway drug. But an engineering addiction can change lives in the positive direction.

Actually, I was able to complete this Slash / XO-1 hybrid rolling chassis for about the same cost as a Slash 4x4 / Rally rolling chassis, but this was a few years ago when Dollar Hobbyz was still selling Traxxas parts at a DEEP discount. It's funny that you bring up a $400 used XO-1 because that's about what I paid for the used "real" XO-1 in the video. The point of the hybrid was a little different, though. This build was for the guy who liked the look and stance of the XO-1, but didn't need the full performance package. Since posting this, I've heard from a lot of guys who wanted the look and attitude of the XO-1, but just wanted to throw it around a parking lot or drift with it. These guys could pick up a rolling chassis online , or a box of parts from a buddy and combine them with spare parts they may already own to make something fun that costs less than half of the full XO-1 sticker (or less). Thanks for watching!

also the 1/5 scale wheels a,stop it from flying in the air to .

+Dirty263 You have a point. The body in stock form will work, but high speed fluttering increases drag a bit. The bigger factor is that reinforced bodies really help out in a high speed wreck. I forgot to increase my brakes at RUN DMV #4 and Dizzy couldn't stop in time to miss a curb. The car hit at speed and flew at least 15 feet before landing on asphalt. The fiberglass took most of the hit and I only lost $10 worth of plastic pieces. I'm pretty sure Dizzy would not have survived without the fiberglass hull.

+rhouse21 - RC Physics yea right about that . I just haven't done it on none of my cars lol I might need to try it tho n see .

It was mad by a cool guy who goes by VGad23. His company is called Saga Custom RC. He has a RU-vid Channel but here is a link to his ebay site. www.ebay.com/usr/vgad23

Okay...yeah I've been to the saga site but do not really care for how high the motor is with his mounts that he had posted. I just got out the dremel and opened up my slots on the stock mount and it has been working. goo.gl/photos/qxFhaLSLnAwAwP9o8 I was just wanting a more professional mount. Yours isnt very high compared to his site. Anyways....thx for the videos. Good job most the time, a little wordy and long but I understand that many people need "wordy". ;)

I haven't seen this mount listed in a while, but send him a message on Ebay or RU-vid. He can probably do one custom for you. He actually does a LOT of custom work. He comes down to the RUN DMV events a lot, so I just saw him yesterday. Great guy.

+udluuz That roller came with a set of bald Kyosho Inferno wheels/tires. I haven't figured out if I want to buy new tires for them or if I should sell them. Interested?

rhouse21 - RC Physics Thanks I'm ok. I have a set of BSR's that I will be trying out. Thought those tires look like GRPs

+RC FANATIC416 The XO-1 is a bit rear heavy, so a little weight up front is not a bad thing. The front body mount I'm using was a used part with weights already applied by the previous owner. It's not the ideal weight yet, but it's definitely not hurting the handling. I was waiting until I finished all my internal mods and got my run-batteries in before doing my final weight balance. I like to have the front wheels fairly well loaded to help keep the nose down, but I don't like carrying ballast when I don't have to. I'll probably use my GPS and maybe an on-board camera as my main "weights" up front and see how that feels.

Those are some Kyosho Inferno rims that came with the roller. I loved them so much I had Gone Bananas put foam on them for speed runs. 😎

@@RCPhysics I’ve been looking for different type of rims for my XO-1. No luck finding nice ones. Is there a site you suggest? And do you know what sizes I need?

Are you looking for "speed" wheels or something cheap to run around on? The XO-1's wheels are slightly larger in diameter than standard 1:8 scale on-road wheels. I've found that cheap 1:8 scale buggy wheels from ebay are fine for cheap basher tires to drift around parking lots with. Here are links to 2 videos I did about these types of wheels & tires. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4Y-Vde5-dhE.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qhZIWkaC-PE.html If you are looking for good "speed" wheels, You should check out this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wJ7KLeBU77w.html For the XO-1, you can contact Gone Banana's and Ric can put custom foam tires on any wheel you like.

@@RCPhysics I wanted one set to bash on and another for looks. I’m in the process of painting an XO-1 body. Then Ima buy the Corvette GT2. Just want varying rims

@@BanditRCracing Any of the ebay 1:8 buggy wheels should work then. They usually have diameters of ~110mm which is just a little smaller than the stock XO-1 wheels. Just check the listing before buying to make sure they aren't smaller like the ~95mm tires. Also, make sure to tape the insides of the wheels like I did in my videos so you don't get ballooning.

Unfortunately, no. The XO-1 is longer than the slash, so it's body won't fit without significant modification.

@@RCPhysics hey sir i found a way to fit the xo-1 body on a rustler,just remove the gear box just install to 2 plate in the middle between the back plate of the rustler chassis and attach the gear box onto the end of the plates to match the wheel base measurments same as the xo-1

That's a new one! Thanks for watching!

I don’t hear gordberg, I hear goldbloom.

@@christopheralexander6147 Thanks.... I think... LOL!

It's really simple. I built that hybrid chassis to sell. If I picked an aftermarket brand for the 17mm adapter, I would have to explain why I thought that brand was best and someone would probably disagree, so it would limit the market. Going with Traxxas was about the same overall price, but this would be acceptable to more people since it is the stock part which works just fine. The think about building items specifically to sell is that you have to make decisions based on what would have the broadest appeal, even if it's not your personal preference.

The answer is a yes and no. The Slash 4x4 and XO-1 use the same diff cases, so you can bolt Slash shock towers to an XO-1. However, the XO-1 uses shorter towers because it doesn't need as much suspension travel. Specifically, the XO-1 uses an aluminum Slash 4x4 front tower on its rear and an even shorter XO-1 specific tower for its front. You can however set up an XO-1 with Slash 4x4 towers, but you just need to be careful to set the suspension geometry to get the car handling properly. I almost did this myself, but the price difference between the Slash and XO-1 towers was pretty small, so I just bought the XO-1 parts.

Thanks for the advice. Going for X-o1 towers

Rhouse another question,does tbe slash 4x4 rear/front hubs fit the x-01 with plastic drive shafts. Just dont have the money for the cvd drive shafts. I have a set of 4 from my rustler? Thanks again.

The XO-1 uses 6mm output shafts on their CVD shafts. However, you can just use Slash 4x4 shafts front and rear with the Slash hubs and you can even use Slash diffs. I built and sold a "Slash-O-1" exactly like that and the buyer was really happy with it.

Thanks for the info.

Stretched 1:8 scale actually. The Traxxas 1:10 truck are really the same size as most 1:8 scales, but the plastic chassis are light enough to get good performance out of 1:10 scale power systems.

Thanks for the honest feedback. I film at home and I need some background music to mask the sounds of "Family Life" in the background. I've gotten a litter better at mixing the audio in later videos. ;-)

Why reinvent the wheel if you have a system that works?

Thanks for the feedback. 😁