I love how it takes both the first verse and chorus until he even acknowledges the people he's there to punish. He spends so much of the song talking about how he's the top dog who gets what he wants.
I love how accurate he is here. Not only can we see/hear his more commonly known/seen "version" of himself as the god who always cheats on Hera and commits SA and does unspeakable things to women without consent, you can also hear his other "version" as the god of justice as well.
Why do I have a feeling in the Percy Jackson world, Zeus would think this song was an ode to his glory and not realize the mockery? And everyone would nod politely and agree, so Jorge Rivera Herrans isn't lightning bolted before he finishes this masterpiece.
Don't be silly, of the 3 people whom Lord Zeus gave the most severe punishment. Sisyphus, Tantalus and Ixion.. None of them were because of a few words that made fun of Him. In fact, not only would He not punish Jorge, I'm sure He would immortalise him, and set his image across the skies as a constellation.
The song really shows how Zeus’ hero complex and arrogant sense of justice informs his other personality traits, particularly with his relationships. As far as he’s concerned he is the true bringer of Justice ever sense he had to fight against his own father and thus in every situation after his will must be ultimate and unwavering whether it’s dealing with prideful disrespectful mortals or sadly in matters of his own lustful urges
Ironically and even more sadly, he isn’t wrong He is literally the god of justice, therefore his word kind of is justice (not saying that makes him right, just pointing out an interesting thought)
Ooooh that’s a good way to bring it. The man sees himself as the ultimate authority to decide good and evil, which is a horrible thing for any person with flaws
@@kalinatankova3578 Poseidon mirrors the "I am your darkest moment" and Zeus mirrors the "king of ithaca" - both of these statements were said with pride and turned around into a taunt
Hearing the full version of the song now is just wow- It never actually hit me that Zeus was gonna kill them until I seen it in the livestream and just wow the wait was so worth it!
Who is here after the latest video on Jorge's channel? We now probably have Thunder Saga by this year he said he want to release sometime this year. I am so exited!
@@shadowtheamazingdog6289 I am aware but thanks anyway. I am shocked honestly I thought because it act 2 it will take longer. But this pattern if we are lucky we can even get wisdom saga this year
@@alexeysimushov4971 That would be really cool, and its possible, since the last saga (underworld) came out somewhere in April if I'm not wrong, so thats around 3 months between sagas, and after Thunder Saga there is almost twice as much time
The great thing about this song is the duality of Zeus. In the beginning, he shows his more animalistic side. The man who cheated on his wife,who takes women without consent. Through the song,it is shown that this is a way of judging Odysseus. Showing that much like women,the truth can never hide from him. In the end, it shows his nature as the god of justice,repeating the chorus but now transforming it from what it was before, a mocking way that showed how he treated women, to the punishment oddy n co would suffer for their crimes. We also see how zeus disregards him,mocking him through the entire song,telling him that his morals and sense of justice have become so skewed that he would choose himself before his people. Calling him 'king of ithica' as mostly a mockery since he doesn't see Odysseus as king. All in all,this may be my favorite song to come in the future,because i love the atmosphere of scorn that zeus creates torwards oddy n co.
Yes, to add to your comment just after having read the Iliad, I found it to be very ccurate. I should mention that Zeus not only cheats on his wife, he is plainly honest about it, even complimenting her at one point comparing her favorably to other women he'd slept with. And yes, Zeus is equal parts a cheating womanizer as an incredibly powerful king. Even poseidon backs away in fear from a direct confrontatin, and the Iliad gave a good sense of fear and awe, one of my favorite moments being when Nestor and Diomedes turn back after zeus almost lightning-bolts their chariot. And the gods are despective multiple times towards mortals, with apollo bragging to diomedes about how gods are in no way similar to bread-eating mortal men (didn't stop aphrodite and ares from getting stabbed by diomedes tho)
I feel like tiktok and youtube user ebucs would be great for this role. He can sing with an intense rumbling bass in his voice that would beautifully fit in with the theme of rolling thunder in my opinion. And he has surprising range honestly!
I can provide some context if that helps: After a long journey, Odysseus' crew, hungry from their travels, winds up on an island where some cattle graze. This cattle belong to Helios, god of the sun, and Odysseus tells his men to not eat them. However hunger gets the best of them and they kill and eat some, angering the god. Zeus later comes down to punish them, leaving Odysseus, the only man to not have eaten the cattle, as the sole survivor.
Awesome song! But I have a question. English is not my first language so can someone explain me what does Zeus meant when he said "Sublime you for your act of crime"? Like, in this context what does "sublime" mean?
The word sublime used to have a definition where it meant "to elevate to a high degree of moral or spiritual purity". Which has been used as a way to say God has taken your mind from your body and brought it to a higher plane of being, as in heaven or hell. Zeus is using it in a way to say he will kill Odysseus or his crew and send their minds to a higher state of being, or in this case Tartarus as he is killing them for the crime of disobeying a god's warnings. Hope this explains things!
Z: "Choose..." O: "Choose?" Z: "Someone's gotta die today and you have got the final say: You, or your crew?" O: "Please don't make me do this! Don't make me do this!"
Pride is a damsel in distress. Hiding away where only I can undress her. Try all she can not to confess. In the end, it's all the same once I apply all the pressure. Thunder, bring her through the wringer! Show her I'm the judgement call, The one who makes her kingdom fall. Lightning, wield her. Use and yield her! Show her what she can't conceal, For true nature will be revealed. Tell me, Odysseus, If I were to make you choose The lives of your men and crew or your own Why do I think they'd lose? Enlighten me, King of Ithaca, Since hunger was far too great, I wonder who'd take the weight of the damned And suffer a gruesome fate to the Thunder bringer, Here to ring your Ears until you're deaf with fear and Spear you while your death is near. Lightning wielder, Here to yield your Time, for you have passed your prime. Sublime you for your act of crime.
Is it bad that I kind of prefer this version to the one that we got in the official release? No disrespect to Luke holt. Just happen to appreciate the deeper version here
This is what I came here for...I feel the same way! I like that this version is more...emotionless? It paints Zeus more as a god that is ignorant to human morals like, yk, not cheating and graping.
@@banheezone I dunno, cheating and graping is a part of Zeus's vibe. And I think Luke got that part down. I just love the more grand voice here that elavates him just a little bit more
@@Delicious.Meiloorun Canonically, Sean Bean has died in practically every movie he has starred in Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, Outlaw, The Hitcher, Far North, and so so SO many more. He himself is quoted as saying, "I don't know what it is, but Hollywood is obsessed with killing me"
double entendre (Something with two meanings, almost exclusively used when one meaning is lude or indecent) "Pride is a damsel in destress, hiding away where only I can undress her" He's comparing Odysseus's arrogance to a woman he plans to sleep with. "Try all she can not to confess, it's all the same once I apply all the pressure" He's referring to both socially pressuring the girl to sleep with him and physically pressuring Odysseus to admit what he did and face the consequences of it. Zeus is saying that it doesn't matter what he wants (a girl, or justice) he can get it.
Zeus is known for committing sexual assault on anyone he finds attractive, sometimes in the form of an animal, or in the form of someone you know, or in one case as a shower of golden light. They can't say no, as he is king of the gods and can do whatever he wants. They can't say no, because of the implication.
Pride Is a damsel in distress Hiding away where only i can undress her Try all she can not to confess In the end its all the same once i apply all the pressure Thunder bring her though the wringer Show her i'm the judgment call the one who makes her kingdom fall Lighting wield her use and yield her Show her what she can't conceal for true nature will be revealed Tell me, Odysseus If i were to make you choose The lives of your men and crew or your own Why do i think they'd lose? Enlighten me, King of Ithaca Since hunger was far too great, I wonder who'd take the wait of the damned And suffer a gruesome fate To the thunder bringer Here to ring your Ears until you're deaf with fear And spear you while your death is near Lighting wielder here to yield your Time for you have passed your prime Sublime you for your act of crime.
@@Burnt-drawings and because he was vaguely talking about the situation and announcing who he is and showing how powerful he is, when he addresses Odyssus by name, the pressure of it hits like thunder, basically making Odyssus feel extremely small. heck it makes the line "Enlighten me, King of Ithaca" feels like mocking him.
Which is ironic since Zeus is always cheating on his poor wife, but this is also a metaphor comparing Odysseus's pride and what he will do to it to a woman and what he does to them, since he commits a lot of sexual assault on them, which is again ironic then how he dares to speak and search for justice when he really isn't just at all and is the worst, no matter that he is the king of the gods, the reason he is able to do what he does and is viewd as the one who delivers "justice" in greek mythology being so bad is simply because he is the ultimate authority being the king of the gods, but he is not truly just, being a king, in this case not just any king but the king of the gods he creates and enforces the laws, thus he has power over "justice", but he is more like a normal human man and king (a terrible one at that) and not a perfect and fair god as a god should be, law and justice also aren't the same thing, they should be, but they aren't, because law is our law and is made up by humans so it has many flaws and is many times immoral too and the ones who make them don't even follow them many times and it is changeable since it's made by us and it's always changed thoughout the times, torture was legal and common until not so long ago, whereas justice is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, it can't be changed and it's not made by us, no matter how many times we'd like to lie to ourselves and call ourselves just and our law justice, what we humans have many times, the majority of times is law, our made up human law, not true justice
@@Amalia20030 I know this is one year old and you might know that that is not the case now. But voice changers exist and also from the musical we have learned that Jay has an insane voice range. And it doesn't really sound like Luke (I think that is the name, I know the va by appearance)
It's the voice; the way he talks about how he can make the prideful and kingdoms fall. If Zeus had presented himself like that, I might get those handful of conquests of his who fell for his wiles and seduction and actually liked him. With any luck, the initial VERY disturbing simile from the lyrics should remind ALL of us not to fall for it.
Issue is the falling for it doesn’t matter. His confidence is not only magnetic, but deserved. People today have a lot of backlash to the concept of inequality. This is a good thing. However, it makes things a bit difficult to empathize with a world, fictional or otherwise, were people believe in beings like Zeus. Mortals are mere, and don’t have a choice unless that choice is allowed.
This is just sooooo awesome. Not just Zeus character is the lyrics, but the music portrays such strong emotions and depths. Seriously, I cannot wait for the whole musical to be in Spotify. And if this comes to the theaters, that would be gold
I like how all three of Zeus’s main domains are shown here: There is of course all the “Thunder Bringer” and “Lightning Wielder” parts for his role as God of Storms, then there is his “Judgement Call” and his whole punishment thing for his role as God of Justice, and finally, one I haven’t seen anyone mention yet, him saying “here to yield your time” because he is the God of Time.
@@TsarAlexander395 oh, my mistake then, I just based it on the fact that Yes, Zeus, the king of the gods in ancient Greek mythology, has the ability to control time. In addition to his role as the god of thunder and the sky, Zeus can also control the movement of stars, the progression of day and night, and the weather. However, Cronos is generally considered the Greek god of time, and is depicted as the father of time and its personification and I just went with the one that is more closely linked to time, my apologies since I was wrong.
Hm, I haven't actually heard of Zeus as the lord of time in the Iliad, I will have to guess it got added in some other myth. They mention him wiht many title "Son of Kronos", "Cloud-gatherer", "Loud-thundering", and "hera's husband", and they clearly mention his power over the Gods as the most powerfull of them, mentioning multiple times his literal scales of fate on the characters, as well as men proclaiming to others to abide by zeus's rules of hospitality. But they don't ever mention him being related to time, so I would like a primary source for when it was mentioned?
I LOVE this version, reminds me more of the version in the Iliad itself. An arrogant and proud king-rightly so!- who gets away with what he wishes, sure, but also a mighty being with more than enough power to back up any claims of grandeur.
@@ellemao7232 because he is the world’s worst sexual predator who cares little for what form he takes you in? or that surviving afterwards depends on his wife deciding you should be shapeshifted instead of killed?
@@tetragaming6332 let's face it, the gods have always looked down on people. But their strength and intelligence are amazing. After all, there is no morality in myths, so it's useless to get angry at them.
@@Tiamatic-ec6yx, but that doesn't mean that as a person with morals and a sense for good and evil you can't get disgusted or feel bad or even afraid at that kind of thing or its perspective and what it entails, you can also make up a horror story, but it's still meant to instill fear and it should intill fear and it will probably instill fear to some people, it's meant and done for that, that's why it's a horror story even if it's not necessarily true, but of course what is true always makes one feel more afraid because it has really happened so if a horror story really happened and you know it and believe it then it will make you feel even more afraid and disgusted
@@frantexmor8681he tells about Eurylocus dying, possibly about his betrayal too or about the crew slaying the cattle being the betrayal, Penelope getting pursued by suitors, and the sacrifice of every remaining man . And yes, that Odysseus will become the “monster he once abhorred”
I don't know if it was the intention but as a woman, listening to this really made me uncomfortable (and if it was, then it's awfully efficient, it makes my skin crawl)
Definitely intentional and completely accurate to the myths. If you notice, not only does he compare pride to a woman and still treat it like a sexual object, the entire song was him (not so subtly) bragging about himself and playing around with his epithets (ex: thunder bringer > thunder, being her).
@@_.hybrids._1680 Being fair, women were treated as objects MULTIPLE times in the Iliad, that make their treatment in frankeinstein seem feminist in comparison. Achilles beggins the entire thing because a slave-girl, Briseis, he captured from the looting of lyrnessus that agammnon demanded after he had to give his own favorite slave girl(note the favorite part, he had more) to her father, on whose behalf apollo started an epidemic. This angers him because dishonour and whatnot, so he both decides to go on strike and gets his mommy to beg zeus to let the trojans win so the acheans will be sorry for what they did (which he does). Other women are treated similarly, with andromache bemoaning the fact that if the city was taken she and her son would likely be taken as slaves, that is if astynax wasn't straight-up killed. Plus, achilles gave a slave-girl as a prize later on chariot-racing games held at patroklos's funeral(and it was even mentioned that she was worth the prize of four oxen, while a freaking tripod was prized at twelve). That said, I found it intersting that while human women were treated as mere objects for the hero's to get as rewards to pass around and use at their wims, the divine women get a lot more agency, and athena actually obliterates ares in single combat not once but twice!(that said, ALL the gods were still subservient to zeus, who ordered about even poseidon.)
its still going to be a while before this saga comes. its in the Thunder Saga and we are just getting the Ocean saga this christmas. the Circe and Underworld sagas are in between the previously mentioned ones
