@@jamesjross Shut up about what? The Tanks history? I love Soviet History in Armour and Aviation Warfare. I do not wish to support the Russians if that's what your comment is leading.
Swedish Stridsvagn 103 was the first in the world to produce gas turbine with piston engine in 1967. A decade later, the soviet developed the world first single gas turbine engine without piston engine. Roughly fours years later, the Americans created M1 Abrams using the soviet concept.
It was not a tank. It is a movable cannon as it doesn't have a turret. Every other tank has a turret. Even turretless tanks from WW1 had side turrets that could move. So it is a movable cannon. And second, it used several engines and only 1 of them was gas turbine. So it wasn't strictly designed for it and there wasn't enough power. Unlike for the T80. Which you could actually say is the first gas turbine engine.
@@mr.waffentrager4400 Yes, it just simply doesn't make any sense that they would upgrade the T80BV over the T80U. They are upgrading T80BVs with the 1250HP engine, which the U already has, as well as improved thermals and the better gun and autoloader. Some T80Us already have that!. As well as the T80U having a much stronger turret. It would be a cheaper and quicker upgrade and make a much better tank if they put Relikt and stuff on a T80U instead of a BV!
@@maksimluzin1121 no . T-80u was produced in Omsk Russia . Only some t-64s and a variant of t-80 called t-80ud with diesel engine was produced in Ukraine .
@@mr.waffentrager4400 , You right, sorry. T-80U and UD. Quite close by the index... Anyway, what I know, Russia has a lot of T-80UD on the Strategical Storages, but most of them are in very bad shape and need a total recreation... The gas turbine T-80 are quite in very good shape. They are and modernized by Russia, at first!
The host is like this one friend everyone had as kid, that goes and touch everything when at your place without asking. Hope he dont stuck in to some tank barrel or something.
That would be a great job working in a tank factory! Did you see all the variants of tanks there being modified, looks like there pulling tanks out of long term storage and upgrading them. T 80 bvm is no joke. I'm curious if there going to use the new 4th generation thermal sights on the bvm during the upgrade. Someone the other day argued with me on RU-vid about the production line of the T14 and I told them watch combat approved as it showed the t14 line being next to the t90m line. They didn't like that their agenda was blown up lol... This military channel is awesome, getting to see all the stuff we don't get to see normally.
Pretty much. Just have the T-14's for special operations or unique situations where a more precision tool is required, but use the platoons of T72's-90's as the backbone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, just modernize it xD
@@egonieser so what was that thing you were saying about not broke? Because I got to tell you from where I'm standing those t80s t90s and t72s ain't doing too good
@@egonieser smart thing to do would be to not waste their time/resources producing T-14s at all, but as we've seen over the past 9 months Russians aren't known for their smarts.
@@anarchyandempires5452 they are so useful that Ukraine is now begging for new tanks the t-90s ate all Ukraine's tanks. Now the leopard 2 and Abrams will meet the same faith. Because Russia destroyed about 3k Ukrainian tanks 30 or 60 Abrams will not make a difference
Russians have about 700-800 T-80 tanks on their the Strategical Tank Storages... Just to scrap and destroy them? Actually, only about 300-400 can be used, for nowadays, somehow... Anyway, how many operational tanks has Germany, for example, for now? Do you know it? 😅
Yeah now this is something, T-80 FINALLY! The best Russian tank ever, we are yet to see how T-14 does! The first serial production tank with gas turbine as an engine. Americans stole that idea and used it with Abrams, its a fact.
That's just not true, the gas turbine in the Abrams and T80 are entirely unrelated. Chrysler, the company that built the Abrams prototype and is still the manufacturer of its engine, developed the first gas turbine engine in the 50s. Even the earliest XM-1 Abrams prototype had Chrysler's gas turbine engine.
@@GloopSerious-nt9dv If the USSR did develop the first turbine engine, then it's crazy that there are no records before Chrysler's. They didn't even initially intend their turbine engine to be used in a tank, rather a line of racing cars. All of this is public and well documented. You just don't do your research or you're being willfully ignorant.
@@Wogby as far as i know they were working on a gas turbine powered tank sine 1955. the project was object 278, although i'm not sure if they beat Americans to finishing it, the engine was worse than diesel ones in almost every way and the project stopped during 1960. than they tried giving the t64 a gasturbine which was a limited thing only.
Bro what goofy ahh voiceover is this “don’t you dare think this is a joke, today we’re going to make this piece of wood into a cylinder” like bro this is so funny
The T-80 had some performance issues in Chechnya. Probably not as capable as the T-90. The T-90s are being modernize and built in new variants, along with next generation T-14.
Yeah I was just saying that it is better in some aspects and I love the t-80 don't get me wrong it's probably the best tank the USSR ever produced I think it's even better than the t-90 but not better than the new t90 variants
The truth ir that nato tanks forces Cross into russian Woodland and muddy territory it's gonna be a turkey shoot for they russians, nato tank are only design for plainfields
The effective tank should have: 1- powerful cannon 2- lethal ammunition 3- plentiful horsepower 4- homogeneous steel base armour 5- modular inert composite armour blocks 6- modular reactive explosive armour blocks (optional imo) 7- active protection (also optional) 8- secure radio communications 9- digital information networking 10- 360 deg. visual feed with software assisted threat identification*** 11- the usual stuff: smoke device, nightvision & infrared, fast accurate firing computer, firing on the move (gun stabilizer), higher gun elevation, low profile, machine gun, snorkel, laser/radar warning system (if practical) Wow quite a package. No wonder these things are SOOOO expensive. To think there are 3-4 soldiers in each one that is a potential 1-hit kill by enemy guided weapons (especially top-down or rear attacks) is worrisome. Russia is doing the right thing by sending out tanks singly or in pairs. Infantry support is a fallacy. Modern anti-tank weapons have ~2 km ranges, you can't expect infantry support to dash the distance in full combat gear. The destructive power of drone borne missiles and precision artillery in top-down attacks will also cause serious collateral damage to nearby infantry. I've seen a video of a ukrainian platoon almost wiped out to the last man when the tank they were following hit a mine. The infantry support doctrine for armoured combat is obsolete and disastrous.
@@TacoLover1 Many modern MBTs are protected against most ATGMs, there is no ATGM capable of piercing the turret of Abrams and Leo 2 A5 / A6 /7. Most missiles have 1000-1300mm of peneration (Cornet M) while for example Abrams turret is prooven be no less than 1400mm against shapedcharges (not APFDSDS). They are not invincible, atleast but most turrets are protected. Older ATGMs like TOW 2 are pretty useless as Relikt ERA (present on T-80BVM) can stop 700mm tandem charges all by itself.
A high number of T-80BVM tanks have been destroyed in Ukraine. 57 Russian T-80Us have also been lost. Only 15 were destroyed, 42 were abandoned. As of 26 June 2022, 146 T-80 tanks have been visually confirmed as lost by Russia, including 40 T-80BV, 71 T-80U and 27 T-80BVM by OSINT site Oryx
