These videos are so important for new zealand. I was born in the islands but grew up in sth akld nz & call akld nz my home. I turn 50 next year yet knew nothing about the place ive always called home. I took history at college but was taught american civil rights, south african apartheid & only a brief introduction to te tiriti o waitangi. This history & these videos should be taught in every school across nz. Now i know alot more about the city & country i love & have raised my family to love respect & always be greatful for. I understand the names of streets & geographical places & their meanings now thanks to these videos. I drive down te irirangi drive everyday for work & tried to google map mauinaina & mokoia pa but there is no reference to it. English street names & names that mean nothing to those hapus this is heart breaking. Our maori brothers & sisters have lost so much land which was sacred & dear to them. These videos have revamped my interest in history which laid dormant since school especially maori history & an appreciation for it. Thank you kiwi codger.
Yes, NZ history is a welcome addition to the curriculum. Alas pre treaty history is not included as it doesn't fit the current narrative. I am happy to do my bit by presenting history as factually as has been recorded by earlier historians. Current historians need to be examined very closely as it seems history is being reinvented. In more than 9 out of 10 cases when people say Maori lost their land, substitute the word 'sold' for 'lost'. There is a great con going on at the moment so be very critical of history and historians, go back to the original documents as recorded by earlier people who are not tainted by these current times. Good luck in your history journey.
The flight to Tuakau wouldn't have been so difficult, Waka to the area of Portage rd Papatoetoe which would have been a major route in Maori times controlled by their own whanau. Then Manukau harbour and inlets as far as Karaka from there Tuakau isn't such a difficult walk. Being well worn track of travel and trade all the people along it would have been aware of the situation and and have strong ties. When I was a child we lived at the top of Reeves Rd our lounge had a magnificent view of the upper Tamaki river I can imagine the fleet of large and small Waka paddling up the river towards Portage road it wouldn't have taken long for these experienced people and a very familiar route away from danger towards whanau. Growing up in the area in the 1960's (Pakuranga side) we were taught much of our area was forbidden or Tapu to Maori and certainly there were very few in the area then, the Maori families only started to grow in numbers in the late 70's early 80's. The western side was almost predominately maori in the same time it would be interesting to learn why because anything I had learnt would have been a Pakeha version of this or my own observation.
Patuone was a powerful ngapuhi leader aswell he actually saved alot of ngati whatua people from hongi hika because of there close relations to nga puhi patuone must of been of been a feared and respected for hongi hika to leave the ngati whatua people alone
Patuone was an amazing chief. However in the end Hongi decimated Ngati Whatua at the battle of Te Ika-a-ranginui in 1825. Patuone is buried in the cemetery on the edge of Mt Victoria in Devenport.
Thank you for your excellent analysis, loved that the moon played a factor, as with so many battles worldwide. Sometimes, so as to continue fighting, sometimes to enable navigation at night.
I remember you from soccer days so I just messaged Adam and confirmed it was you! Love the show and I have watched lots of nz history shows and yours are as good if not better than any of them - that includes James Belich’s ones so I think you have a future in this!
Hi Phil, I am sure I have watched you play with Adam back in the day. That's going back a bit. Great memory to recognize me. As far as a future in this, at 73 I probably don't have much of a future...in anything :). Glad you are enjoying the vids. The Musket Wars gets no coverage, but its so fascinating. I will keep plugging away, almost up to 2.5k subscribers, I'll be rolling in the money soon...;) Cheers
@@kiwicodger I am good with faces I guess - I met Adam at St Kents prep and was in the Eastern Suburbs side which use to keep Adam busy picking the ball out of his net and also played in the Auckland side with Adam too. You are a tv natural and have done an amazing job with the whole channel. It's certainly worthy of a bigger audience as Ive watch many NZ history docos over the years and this is the best without a doubt
Thanks very much for your videos, interesting stuff. 40 years later Thomas Harris had a farm at Bridge farm directly opposite to the area you are talking about.
Thanks for that, looking forward to the final chapter. I didn't think Hongi Hika really needed a reason to engage in vast wars. It was just a larger scale of business as usual. Kill or be killed. Amass weapons and use them... But you've given a strategic reason. Knock out Auckland before it gets a mission and becomes a threat. Wonder if that's something we have any evidence to back up.
Love your comments, they have some meat to them. There is no direct evidence of Hongi seeing the possibility of a mission station in Tamaki as a threat. There is evidence that he was jealous of the Missionaries and did not want them to expand into other areas, even within the Bay of Islands, Also prior to going to England there is evidence that the aquisition of weapons was a major objective. The threats to Hinaki in Sydney meant Hongi's course of action was pretty much sketched out in his mind already. In the 7 weeks that he was back in Kerikeri he would have had much interchange with the missionaries (who, after visiting England, he now saw as insignificant cogs in the British Empire's machine) and learnt of Marsden's enthusiasm for setting up a mission in Tamaki. It would have only added to his resolve. He will strike Ngati Maru (Thames)and the Waikato (Matakitaki) during this summer. The next summer he would lay waste to the Arawa people in Rotorua (Mokoia Island). This period would be the pinnacle of his success, he was unstoppable.
@@kiwicodger I've got another one for you. How did Hika cover his flank? In his absence Ngati Whatua were supposed to be crushed but it was not achieved. Not even until 1825. In particular, how was a Ngati Whatua such as Tohitapu able to bestride the Bay of Islands? Was he some kind of buffer to the rest of his greater tribe? (have written a post about this with much speculation. not published yet but... ahnz.anarkiwi.co.nz/1824-the-gate-incident/ Thanks)
Ron Crosby talks in his book the 'Musket Wars', about a taua of Ngapuhi, some 3000 (!) strong under Tareha going down to the Kaipara in 1820 whilst Hongi was in England. It went down via the Mangakahia river/valley and joined up with the northern Wairoa. Even though they had some 50 muskets, they were beaten again by Murupaenga. Tohitapu was of the Te Roroa iwi which was connected to the Ngati Whatua confederation. Crosby refers to them as a hapu of Ngati Whatua. Intermarriage with Ngapuhi and Ngati Whatu made them an ally of both so I think they were a buffer. It seems like Tohitapu spent a considerable amount of his time around the Bay of Island and circulated there as if he had some land rights, maybe he did through marriage, maybe as a powerful Tohunga. This facebook reference may hold some answers as well facebook.com/NgapuhikiTamaki/posts/tohitapu-and-te-haumi/639130540147940/ It also mentions the gate incident. I enjoyed your website, keep up the good work!
