EPISODE 41 | LAWSUITS, RAYMONTE, JT & MORE 

Only time I’d expect it back is if I was told they’d give it back if not then I already no

@@marielove4324 I think ^ she meant, even if someone says they will give it back, when you let someone borrow money just assume that you won’t get it back (whether the person said they would or not) b/c anything can happen. It’s kind of like an “expect the worse” situation. So if you don’t get it back then you won’t be as disappointed, and if you do get it back then great. It’s a saying. And along with that saying that goes hand in hand is don’t loan money if you can’t afford to lose.

Ppl should just be more honest and start saying, “can I borrow some money,, I might not be able to pay it back but I’ll try no promises”😂

@@rondazug9967p

@@rondazug9967 exactly

This is the damn truth! Especially with friends! They think that friendship is their pass to play games.

There are of course situations of good people helping other good people. If my friend didn’t allow me into her home last year when I was leaving my emotionally abusive relationship I don’t know what I would’ve done 😢 I pay her rent every month now and am still trying to get on my feet after all the damage he’s done but in my heart and my mind I still feel indebted to my friend for those few months. I hope I can make it out of this, come up and bless her with a few thousand dollars for her trouble and a huge thank you for everything she’s done for me. 🩷💜🩵❤️ god bless

Omg that’s a great idea! Thank you

aw rip i’m sorry for your loss ❤️

I’m sorry for ur lost 😔

Praying for you and your family❤

I love you sister 💕 it hurts bad at first worse than bad. But you will wake up one day and not feel that sick feeling in your stomach. It gets better. 🫶🏼

sorry for your lost 🩷

Exactly! And it sucks bc I really liked this podcast but the ignorant colorism statements are too much for me. As a dark skin woman-I’m VERY disappointed

Like no fr im so close to unsubscribing

Yes and the main reason black people don’t claim cardi is because she herself, in the beginning of her career said that she’s not black! So I think it’s weird that they make excuses for her when that statement came out of her own mouth. 🥲

@@youfainyloveshe was uneducated back then

Idk what you expected from these two. When it comes to talks about colorism they would not be the go to. Most light skin females think being bullied and colorism is the same thing.

@@So-what692 You’re so right my expectations were too high😂

Same, idk why I expected more lmaooo

Because she thought Hispanic is a race. Hispanics come in every race. Cardi b is definitely is Afro Latina. Look at older pictures look at her sister Hennessy. They both look like black women. People fail to realize that. Cardi B was ignorant

Correct, Dominicans are quick to say they aren’t black . So idk what winter man looking self talking about

Correct!

Or is it because cardi has multiple platinum #1 hits and Raymonte is only known for making TikTok’s in supermarkets? Be fr it has nothing to do with colorism or how ghetto each of them are.

I agree I think she's so jaded she won't look at it from different angles, that's my girl but I don't agree with everything being said

winter’s the only girl ik who’s mad about being light skin it’s crazy

@@aIysssaShe annoyed because people assume she's lieing about having a black father due to her skin tone.

agreed

@@dejanicole111it sucks bc she seems so smart yet so ignorant on the topic. I wish she would educate herself more. And I hope she realizes those little race battles she be having with idiots on the internet will never compare to what darker skin people/women go through.

RIGHT! Colorism being a “cop out” is such a shitty thing to say because she will NEVER face the same colorism as the people that she’s talking about. But as soon as there’s a minor inconvenience she says “they said i’m too light” and “people don’t know i’m black” which is using the “cop out” you were just complaining about. Colorism is Colorism. If someone is telling your their experience with being brown/darkskin and it stopped them from being in spaces (which something that you’ll never face considering you’re are lightskin ) then don’t immediately call their experience invalid ://

When ppl are saying she is NOT a black woman it is a cop out. I expressed how I will NOT stop talking about colorism because IT AFFECTS ME. Listening is key

Tired go to sleep

@@keylilyoutube I think the issue for a lot of people is that you can’t invalidate someone of a darker skin tone’s experience but they can invalidate yours if you’re of a lighter skin tone which isn’t fair look at saweetie for example she said it was hard for her growing up mixed cause she felt she didn’t fit in anywhere and people dragged her because apparently mixed kids don’t go through any kind of racial struggle which isn’t true. Or myself I’ve been told multiple times I’m not really black by black people because I have a Hispanic parent (which Hispanics can be black smh) but if I were to say I’m not black then it’s a problem make it make sense. Color definitely should be talked about without invalidating anyone’s experience

⁠​⁠@@WinterBlancoit does NOT effect YOU. it ONLY will ever BENEFIT you. your saying listening is key but yet you didn’t even fully dissect what raymonte said or was speaking on before putting your two sense in. you immediately turned the situation into something ignorant and invalidate the people who ACTUALLY face colorism. i love you and chy but your so close minded when it comes to this. raymonte was wrong for bringing up cardi b but you guys disregarded everything he said and meant. also he was being called a hard r and all types of slurs which is why he just fought back racism with racism.

You know everybody black when it’s convenient chile

I love how you broke this down. I definitely think biracial experience conversations and colorism conversations need to be very separate. it comes off extremely insensitive when biracial people are mentioning the discrimination and identity issues they deal with when the topic is colorism. our hard doesn’t even compare to the hard black people experience everyday. it’s only fair to acknowledge that they go through far worse things regarding their skin color and culture as a whole. not acknowledging the privilege that comes with being biracial or having more Eurocentric features is incredibly problematic! also not holding black people accountable when they uphold the divisive agendas that white people created is also very problematic. the longer we’re fighting one another we’re simply taking the bait. i hope they can get a darker person on the pod to really shed light and get a good dialogue going. winter seems very obtuse when it comes to the topic of colorism and i think it’s mainly due to the things the black community have put her through on the internet.

What would it take to leave?

Girl leave you are so young.. im talking from experience im only 23 and i was able to relate to you a few months ago. Trust me

⁠@@majesstic1 ughh it’s so hard lol I wish it was that easy !!

So is it okay for a dark person like yourself to abuse lighter complexion people? Y’all equally colorist to us. Make it make sense?

I have light skin and most dark skinned women didn’t like me just because my skin was light and hair was different they had no problem in showing the hate I even fought a few bitches for hate of my skin tone 🤷🏻‍♀️ point is we all have to deal with some kind of hatred and messiness over skin tone no matter what color u are!! People just need to learn to love on themselves and parents need to install confidence and self love in their kids so people aren’t angry and jealous over color and hair there’s bigger shit going on in the world !!!

I do not agree. I'm lighter skinned and I'm damn sure gonna have an opinion if I want to

Colorism and racism works BOTH ways

It didn’t. AT ALL

It did. ACTUALLY

it does all the time i’m so tired of ig

@@WinterBlancoit did. You’re both extremely ignorant women.

Like you really think that it’s safe for you to play with someone’s money in this economy?

I mean the payment plan and the other option she was given wasn’t even bad though 😅

Exactly! It's like wouldn't you rather not go through having to make up these excuses

how ?? both of chy paretns are BLACK. lmao.

@@4kgamg413you missing what they are meaning.. although both of her parents are black she is still a light skin black women who benefits from colorism due to her being light skin..

It doesn’t really matter it’s the exact same point being made.

She has black in her blood don't that make her black?

No one was saying this 10 years ago lol, even irl i don’t see anyone care that much if anything . I mean idk isnt she afro latina ??😅

If no one knew who she was and she was a non famous person in the grocery store she’d look like a regular light skin black woman. She doesn’t have ambiguity features at all.

Well Cardi mom is African so she does have black in her blood.

Ur not from nyc she looks like a domincan ​@@illegallygorguz

Um mixed is black, African is the dominant gene. It’s just the truth.

i think they should keep their brand the way they like it. it’s more authentic this way

Period

I’m gonna do it too lmao I need more content

Same I wish but 15$ a month tho is OD 😭

mood

Why are u like this 💀

I-😂

lmaooo this was hella funny but not funny 😂

Lol thank you for the sarcasm cause I’m soooo tired of somebody dying in these comments EVERY WEEK 😩

I do not dislike Raymonte! He dislikes me lol. I only speak the truth. Like it or not.

The women on RHOP and production are definitely colorist.

@@WinterBlancowhat you deem to be the truth

@@aleamitchell94291000%

Those baggy jeans look so musty

Baggy ass auntie jeans is hilarious! 😂 But no same lol I like mine skinny or flared

because she’s not black…

Winter wouldn’t like if someone dismissed her experience as a being a biracial women and what she has gone thru as a “cop out”.. another example is a white person saying racism doesn’t exist or if racism is a “cop out” as well. As a light skin woman I’m very disappointed in yall comments in regard to colorism.

Literally same, my baby can wait to eat

@@ja3480 HELP SKSKS

@@ja3480LMAO

Yeah i’d agree but sexy and cardi are not a good example. Had he used better comparisons i’d agree. i still do on basis alone. however, sexy do way too much and took shit way left with her actions and what she represents. I like her as a woman, i do not like her portrayed image at all. And i love raymonte DOWN but i disagree with how he worded what he was trying to convey. Seen people on tumblr a decade ago make the same point in much better words. Hell, the convo been around 30 years, nothing new under the sun. It’ll probably never change.

@@Daydreamerr13 yes it’ll probably never change but discussing the issues does bring awareness to the situation and maybe more people pay attention. and why aren’t their good comparisons ? and sexy red and cardi has done some of the same stuff in fact cardi has done worse only thing sexy red has done was made jokes about her having a std, cardi has admitted to drugging and robbing men, being apart of a gang, paying gang members to beat and throw bottles at woman, told fans she hope they catch a!ds she hopes they d!e. they one of the same both urban one is lighter so she gets more opportunities and it’s not as bad or “ threatening “ as someone as sexy. cardi is prevalent in the urban community. why would he bring up someone who isn’t in a urban market or doesn’t desire to appeal to urban people?? gender doesn’t mean you can’t be brought up in a conversation if it applies it applies. and besides cardi is a perfect example she’s done horrible things to people and gets called ghetto and still gets seen as marketable but if someone like sexy or raymonte does half of the stuff cardi done they’re automatically not marketable because their seen as “ too much” another example is chrisean let her be dark skinned people would’ve been cancelled her. yes old conversations but still applies today that’s like saying we’re tired of talking about racism when it’s very much still alive today.

Sexy Redd is more popular than Ice Spice so that’s invalid

these are the same type of people that say that Dominicans are racist for saying they're not black . but anyways

Dominicans aren’t black to me. Lol they’re Hispanic/Latino

Biologically in her DNA she is Hispanic/Latino decent. Not black. Dominicans aren’t black.

They got the point.his point is just dumb..him and bardi on 2 diffrent levels..he can stay mad 😂😂fyi people call bardi ghetto all the time she just don't gaf...go worry about the ghetto lady who married a tier 3 convicted registered sex offender

They got his point it was just dumb af. Fyi they call bardi ghetto all the time she just don't gaf..stay mad😂😂😂😂

Why is he putting other people down to make his point? Let alone being disrespectful about it…..weird way to go about it

@cat0707 because he a miserable bird and wishes he was bardi...the fact that he even thinks they are in the same circle is wild on his part 😭

so she can’t say it was a gift

Lmao right it’s giving can I have my phone charger back 😂

Its crazy cause asking for something back, either money or whatever should never make us feel bad but it does lol.