Complete with the tuning of the 19th century... before A 440... closer to late Beethoven in feel, maybe A 430... I was taken back in time... I just wish there was more of this!
@@baroquewinds, thanks for your clarification. I have a list here, with all the historical pitches, so much variations, and up to 456 mid of 19th. As you say, 435 was the official proposition from the Frensh Government in 1859. This special Erard comes from the Opéra Garnier, Paris. To be safe, our calculations are prepared for 440. 435, or 438 will sound great on them.
The near-identical twin of this Erard concert grand is in the lobby of a hotel in Dar-Es-Salaam, Tanzania. It's in terrible shape. Someone needs to rescue it.
Chopin played the Pleyel pianos of that period as he was an official spokesman for the piano manufacturer. Privately, he had the opinion that Erard was his preference.
Hola una consulta desde argentina esos pianos erard de cola completa se pueden afinar bien pregunto eso porque lei que al ser casi los primeros pianos tienen el arpa recta y tambien las cuerdas yo estoy interesado en adquirir uno y tambien me han dicho que son complicados saludos
Hola Catalina, no tiene nada que ver con la posición de las cuerdas. La pregunta es: ¿el piano tiene una placa de hierro fundido o no? Con la estructura solida de hierro, afinarlo una vez al año. Sin estructura de hierro, afinar lo dos veces al año. Ademas, depende del modelo. Los tamaños más largos, incluso sin hierro fundido, se pueden acordar una vez al año. Sobre los mecanicos: una vez que el mecanico se ha regulado correctamente, durará y jugará de manera confiable. Simplemente... ¿quién en tu region es capaz de regularlo correctamente?
neither? its a large grand piano. square grands are much smaller, sound worse, and went out of fashion in the 1860s or so. piano fortes are older than that.
@@claudiaklinkenberg3839 Thanks! I had an instrument like this, but the dampers were malfunctioning (as you know, on this old model they work from bottom to top). In addition, changing the pins, adjusting the mechanism and a total repair would have been very expensive. Finally, I sold it cheap. I now have a 1930 model F Pleyel. It sounds heavenly!
En fait , ces 2 notes supplémentaires n'étaient qu'un "prétexte" pour élargir la table d'harmonie et donc améliorer la clarté d'émission de l'extrême grave.Une autre marque célèbre, Bosendoerfer", rajoute toujours plusieurs notes dans le grave pour la même raison sur ses grands pianos de concert! Ces notes graves surnuméraires n'ont pas vocation à être jouées pour elles-mêmes...
Bosendorfer uses the modern cross-stringing method of construction, however, thereby obtaining more resonance out of those bass strings than Erard did with its straight stringing. So does the even more exclusive Stuart from Australia with more keys both above and below the standard 88. I think modern cross-strung pianos do sound better and fuller than this Erard. But that might just be my modern bias.
@@joelrigal4622 Du coup si j'écris une musique avec ces deux notes, elle ne pourra être jouée que sur ce piano 😃 à l'époque c'était peut-être une tentative de faire évoluer le piano vers ce standard, et puis ça n'a pas été conservé 🤔
Where are the facts and technical information about this piano l would have thought thats why most people would have tuned in for Cant tell much about its character if lm not in a room with it
the 90 notes Model was the most advanced model by Erard, and was meant to change the future of the piano building. The weight is heavier than that of a Steinway Model D. The 90 notes Erards are quite rare and have a lot of innovating features. Still it is a romantic approach to piano building, a very French way. The price was higher than that of a house. Our aim was to have it correctly restored and back to like new condition, as on the day it left the factory back then.
Digital synthesizers, executed well, can bring sounds of many piano models -- both rare and antique like this Erard, and plentiful and modern -- within the reach of the average artist. And that's the trick, for there is no standard internal mechanism for a digital keyboard and service parts will eventually become unavailable. (However, MIDI remains a standard after decades.)
It's a different thing from a modern piano, with different construction and therefore more limited resonance. I think too that modern pianos do sound better, which could be our bias from having known them. If this was the only piano we knew, we might consider the modern pianos to be clunky and boomy.
The negative commenters have no idea about the historical real sound of these grandpianos. See here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jnL9PIMH1nk.html