Eren Manipulated His Father, Eren Shocks Zeke & the World with the Biggest Plot Twist 

Amen

Amen

Amen

Amen

Amen.

"Yeah, you hear that b*tch saying lie down and take it?"

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Naa dead ass

I mean… just IMAGINE having to tell your father to do the thing he said he would do. Fixed timeline, etc, that must be so frustrating for Eren. The puzzle piece is in position, it just refuses to settle in.

😂🤣🤣

There are no vilains on AOT. Only broken people doing broken people's stuff.

@@mechamedeamigo3984 I think the innocents whose lives their actions ended or ruined because they just happened to be in the way would beg to differ.

@@mechamedeamigo3984and Eren is the most broken from day 1

​@@mechamedeamigo3984 No argument there

King Fitz....

Right 😂😂😂

Zeke: "Can you believe Grisha slaughtered the royal family?" Eren: "Ya it took a little convincing but he finally did it lmao" Zeke: "what?" Eren: "what?"

@@razor3535 lol

Zeke literally went into this hating his father and trying his best to prove to Eren that Grisha is a bad person, only to find out it was Eren all along

@@keane4464and that he’s the one that gave him the tools to do so in a way.

Exactly!!!

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There are a huge difference between monsters and millions of inocent humans.

@@devil1449 That's why in war. Only a chosen few will be able to complete wipe out mankind if need be

Just a reminder: that quote is anime only. People who believe in AOE will get it I think.

Thats a T pose if I’ve ever seen one

@@mastertoki1 no that is an A pose

“You’re pathetic against me”

@@mastertoki1 that's an A pose choomba

That's a Shenjiki No Kyojin Pose..

Fr

You're filled with determination ❤️

DEVOTE YOUR HEART

bravery? Ehhh... determination? I'll agree there.

@@lemonzest8650 Takes some serious balls to do what he did.

that's why aot is interesting haha

Zeke: can't you see Eren, our father brainwashed you. Eren: No Zeke, I brainwashed our father, I'm doing it right now in fact, thanks for the help.

​@esenefte816 that's Japan for you they have no sense of direction because of their Strict laws and their strict traditions

Isayama was manipulated by Eren all along

@@oscargruber8582 Isayama who ?

@@kanishkasingh6809 Manga Writer

@@Anabnormalelf This goes all the way back to the first King of the walls, Karl Fritz which protected the eldians for 100 years. As you already know that before the walls were made, the whole world was being tormented by the eldians using the power of titans. But, Karl Fritz felt guilty of what his ancestors did and thus, he used the power of the founding titans to built those walls and told the world to not disturb their peace or those walls titans will flatten the whole earth(which was of course not his intention and was just a bluff). He wanted to atone for the sins of eldians and thus he would willingly accept attacks from the outside world and destroy the eldians. Karl fritz's will was inherited or so by the next founding titans inheritors. Even if they want to use the attack titans power, they still cannot do it (because of karl fritz will) to save the eldians. Its already predestined for the royals to not save eldians and be destroyed along with all the eldians by the outside world to atone for their sins.

Eren the incel XD

I understood the reference and I hated...Nice XD

Proceed

Proceeded he did

*smiles*

I don't get the reference can someone explain also it's fine if it's a manga spoiler just put a disclaimer so others don't get spoiled

No

Of all time? No, lol.

@@J01789 It kind of is (Not entirely but its up there) Viewers at first viewed eren as the hero of the story and didn't really think much of the story itself. But it was at this moment the viewers were shocked to realise that eren was the one who even started this story, he is responsible for his mothers death and his fathers actions towards the royal family below the church. The moment eren kissed historia's hand was the moment the whole plot of AoT changed, eren had a whole knew perspective on reality. Just think about what would have happened if he didn't kiss historia's hand, he wouldn't be able to witness the future and see what would happen, makes you think. Eren created this story.

@@horrorpleb249 You explaining the plot twist that I already know about doesn't change the fact that it's not the greatest plot twist of all time.

@@J01789 I never said it was the greatest, I'm just saying its still a highly shocking plot twist, its not on the top 10 but its still one of the more bigger plot twists there is.

Now that you mention it, it makes me think how far back can Eren manipulate memories?

@@Young_Dab all the way back to the founding titan

No way. That fst back to the founding ? ​@@zigzagzarf

@@Young_Dab From my POV, he can't, its a fixed timeline and the thing called "fate" or "determined future" is made by eren's desires, which are freedom and the happiness of his friends, his choices are technically pre-determined by his nature, there is no change, it "happens because it happened". If you were to look from "outside" I suppose a comparisson would be on one hand you view yourself turning left and another turning right, but since in this series timeline is fixed, both can't be true, whatever happened and happens is fixed, the "left" or "right" happens and its already set, now you gotta remove the POV of "outside" and think that whatever choice appears to exist it's already determined by "god's" (Ymir/Eren) desire. The gate to the pigs will never not be open, the rumbling is always happening. Fascinating since its a paradox on the concept of free-will and what Eren wants, which is freedom. And he does get it, by his friend's actions, supposedly death is the end, thus ... freedom I guess.

Destiny does not preclude free-will, it's caused by it.@@aonirsplayground6224

Nah that's false because in one instance, Eren didn't go through with the Rumbling and ran away with Mikasa when he asked her what he was to her and she didn't family zoned him.

@@wanderingbufoon Nop, that was just a vision Time stuff in any genre is really hard to comprehend and understand but I think AoT has the best "system" for it. The attack titan can't read its *own* future, so Eren can't send memories back to his younger self (he is still the same inheritor) so he sends it to his dad which he then gets the memories back from through paths (such as when Reiner and Galliard touched and Galliard got Porco's memories.). TL;DR you can't call yourself but you can call someone else to then share your voice mail with you later. I think Alex had it right, AT can set things into motion through time itself if the future inheritor so wills it- it is just a question of how the past will get to the future.

causality loop to eliminate paradoxes, whilst being a paradox in of itself.

@@KenanTheFab Which makes it really convoluted and hard to use properly. In one of the scenes in season 3 or 4 Eren talks to the mirror. He said "Fight" eight times. And in season 1 when Eren changes for the first time. You can hear his voice say the same thing with the same tempo, and also when he carries the boulder.

​@@KenanTheFabSteins;Gate

This is nothing compared to Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint.

@@wanderingbufoon Omniscient reader viewpoint is a power fantasy with good writing but nowhere near as good as AOT

@@danielbatista8760 yeah I prefer SSS class suicide ranker

@@wanderingbufoonnot even 1% of Reverend insanity

Bro.... The plot twist isn't that he reacted to Frida's words as expected from his personality, but that he was there to hear Frida's words to begin with. And then, he influences his dad into manslaughter.

And then becomes an incel in the last episodes.

​@@gustavoferreira1178incel? Nah, more like simp

@@gustavoferreira1178 that was your takeaway?

@@Plupert Ending was horrible and destroyed Eren's whole character. What was the point of this plot twist?

i wanna think that its eren who is showing grisha this memory instead of grisha intentianlly looking into erens memories to talk to zeke.

u right

It's kinda like a two way street since the attack titan can see it's successor's memories and when someone inherits one of the nine they can see their predecessor's memories

@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 In fact it can't see through the memories of the successors, it works the opposite way : the attack titan can share memories lf his own past to a predecessor. You may think it's the same thing, but actually it's really important to understand the difference : this is why Griesha couldn't see what happened to Carla, he evened said litterally "Eren why won't you show me everything", Eren decides what memory he's willing to share or not and this is how he controls all the timeline

@@lionnoir1592 but don't the nine titan successors inherit the predecessors memories

wait what episode or part was that?

@@blindbandit4277 right after zeke bring him out of his fathers memories

Different streaming platforms have slightly different translations. The one I saw said “we didn’t get to the part where I eat the old man” fucking ice cold

Eren really has 0 filter left in his body, bro is just too cold hearted atp

That was such a satisfying line to kick off the continuation in the following episode

I think Grisha was in control. He told Eren “their memories will teach you how to use it”. Implying Grisha learned how to use the attack Titan through the memories of inheritors. Also he already would’ve had his first transformation as at the time, only a Titan could make it across the island

@@spyjonsachurin2101 eren manipulated grisha but he wasn't the one who forced and burdened his younger self to become a titan. Manipulation and forcing are two different things

Even if eren hadn't said anything Grisha had already gone that far on his own. He would've died and all he did would be for nothing, or he would've killed them anyway

@@Philthorn You could say it was Eren that did it, but really, it's fate and no one can escape it

@@keane4464 fate only binds you if you let it, if you don't bare your fangs against it

stay away from youtube, you will see spoilers. it will ruin the ultimate experience!

Dont Watch more of it. The story is marvelous, you will only ruined your experience if you do it.

Close your eyes forget this happened. It was all a dream

this is me, i watched season 1 and part of 2, now im watching every spoiler video there is, this show is so fucking good lmao

Sorry man, but you just spoiled yourself from one of the best well-written plot twisted of all time.

did you cu- I mean yea it's so good 👍🏻

@@messythoughts9116 I cu- indeed

@@StarWarsJokes ayo

@@willoffire9972 wild😂

I believe the original ending and "biggest" plot twist of the manga was Eren being there during the creation of that world just for him, with the help of "the goddess". And I'll die on that hill.

Now this is funny. Why the likes not many 😭😭🤣

She has feels for the guy but is shy admiting, can't help the woman, besides, the titan can see future "memories" meaning it will happen no matter what

Won't ever happen due to eren never getting the founding titan if he doesn't manipulate his farther.

I thought Eren was the one who rejected her feelings first. Right before he used the founding titans power for the first time to kill Dina’s titan

@@shizu-chan1646 nah I'd like to think eren has feelings for her. He talks to Zeke about her asking him if Ackermans are subconsciously compelled to defend their host, since ya know the Yaegers saved and adopted her. But Zeke tells him that Ackermans are just incredibly gifted fighters , they aren't biologically compelled to protect anyone. "Maybe she's doing it because she likes you so much". Eren sighs and replies to this saying it doesn't matter anyway because he' only got 4 years left until he dies. So even if he did have feelings for her, what could he do?

@@lemongeezer1157 Well yeah it’s obvious that he has feelings for her, but he rejected her early on in the series before he was willing to acknowledge those feelings

Its funny since its Coming from a person who has murdered countless people

Grisha goal was freedom for Eldians. Grisha believed in Eren despite how cruel Eren's demands were.

Is the concept of "terrible purpose" originated from DUNE?

@@BlankerWitt1 DUNE was published in 1965 by Author Frank Herbert, so I would say yes.

@@Monozomatlii Eren can see the past and the future. The Founding Titan Ymir exists in a plane called The Paths, a sort of Nexus where all of her descendants (The Eldians) are all connected through, by genetic memory if you will. All 9 Titans have special different abilities, the Attack Titan specially aside Physical power is indeed see the Past and the Future simultaneously. With the power of the Founding Titan, Eren can influence the actions of the Past Bearer of the Attack Titan through The Paths. But also see who would the new bearer of the Attack Titan will be in the future and influence whomever it is. Eren always wanted to eliminate the Titans, but saw the continued Marley and Eldia fighting in his visions. His unwavering desire for Freedom is a factor as he wants to be really free but also free humanity from the shackles that they make for themselves and others and the subsequent power struggles. So he decided that in order to do that he had to become the "Ultimate evil", the villain that Humans would unite against as well as making his friends the "Heroes". The idea of a hero having to become the villain for the greater good was made by Frank Herbert in 1965 in his DUNE novels and also the ability of the protagonist to develop the power to see past, present and Future simultaneously.

it's called negative integegration, and has countlessly appeared within human historically/politically, one doesn't have to read and be inspired from Dune to reach the same plot pattern

Isayama hasn't gone on record to say he was inspired by dune. In terms of English media he has gone on record to say he was inspired by the poem Paradise Lost, by John Milton. Apparently most of the media he said he was inspired were of Japanese origin (makes sense considering language barrier). Not all English media is consumed by Japan (whether there's a translation or not) its mere speculation as to whether he read it. Not all media is inspired by Dune.

Nope, they're not the same

@@NeverMind-tp3vz bruh just let me do my marginal comparison. Thanos is the most recent genocidal maniac in pop culture

As far as the amount of damage being done, Eren is way worse than Thanos😭😭😭

@@kanishkanvariketta9701 their motives are different

@@shizu-chan1646 Thanos literally killed trillions of beings in the universe. Eren killed 80% of life on just planet Earth

In anime level for you consider this sht is as time traveling gies

Indeed it doesn't even feel like anime, or any other thing is it's own thing

Yes, that would be great 👍

You’re talking about the same man who snitched on his parents to the law and sent them both to be executed via being eaten alive ... I doubt he cared about Eren as a brother, he was just using that to manipulate him but Eren pulled the Ultimate Reverse UNO on him and it was satisfying to see ... just sucks that so many good characters died in the end but ones that should’ve been canon fodder (like that brat girl who killed Sasha and her simp boyfriend) got to share a happy ending they didn’t deserve 😒😒😒

Eren: Yeah i know, but it was necessary

if Hippocrates was in the AoT universe it would've been Galen that invented the Titans I reckon

War? No war means they had a chance to win this is akin to shooting kids in a bucket

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Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆 extra pages slap on your face

You sarcastic or what?

"There are no innocents, not anymore" - Dracula

KONO EREN DA

I get the Jojo reference harder.

KONO EREN DA

​@@affanvh5746what is jojo

But what’s wrong with that? There is absolutely nothing wrong with preserving your own life! Those kidnappers had already killed Mikasa’s father to kidnap her and her pregnant mother to sell them into slavery, people like that once they choose to take someone else’s life shouldn’t be shocked when their own are taken away by someone like Mikasa.

​@@LadyLeomon Nothing wrong in it.

He was stable enough after this incident to provide food for his son till the day he died.

Why? He *did* say that he was gonna kill all the Titans 👀

That was his plan bruh... come on get a grip...

that’s a spoiler for anime only’s btw

@@ame-chan579 You're a little behind. The power of the Titans finally dies with Eren, it's his "big" plan. Notice how all of season 4 they slowly turned him into almost a unlikeable character. Surely from the start you'd hate him for who he is today, but man if you ain't caught up you're about to start really not liking Eren and how he treats Armin and Mikasa. Edit: I recaught up with the show, now I'm plain worried for how this is all gonna go down. I know the events of what happens but thankfully idk the details. So much for "Final season, p3 the last part" god damnit man.

@@Wildlink123 Will eren come back to life on AOT ?? Or they just gone end the whole season with these last two episodes.

He definitely wouldn't

It's Erwin's death what led Eren to do so. Erwin would have come up and executed a better plan. Something Hange or Armin couldn't.

I would argue no, Erwin might side with Eren. Not even Erwin can devise a situation where 200+ nations can negotiate was bloodless peace, too many moving pieces. Erwin motivation was to undo the greed of the old government and enlightened the truth to the people. Marley had 100 years to manipulate the world against Eldia, that not simple reversible. Also Eldia was 100 years behind in everything, at best it would take them 50 years to catch up

Imo he'd basically take flochs place in the story. All his comrades died because of the people beyond the sea and I think he'd want just as much as eren to wipe them all out

Erwin's dream was just to prove that the Titans were once human beings not sure what he would want after that.

Zeke Pikachu surprised face

"Bro tf?"

It’s really easy to forget that he’s still in Zeke‘s shackles.

Yep. When he said that he will kill all the titans he wasnt even joking

That wasn’t his plan from the beginning, no. Once he gained the founding titan’s powers, that was his goal.

Gotta show your dominance despite being in chains

Yes...assertion of dominant you can't fuck with this energy T pose😂😂😂

He T-posed in front of Jesus

That’s what’s so great about Eren. He’s just so done with this whole idea that he should just give up and die. Everything about the way he feels is completely understandable.

@@jimmy3261 It's amazing because you can understand where he's coming from but the story doesn't say he's right. He's very clearly wrong and overzealous. I just absolutely adore complex villains

That's a good question but Eren has both Attack and Founder powers. He used Attack powers to see past and future and used Founder power to let his predecessors only see what he wants to show. Attack Titan can set a 'fixed' future. So the past events were just adjusted according to it. In parallel world there can be another successor but since Eren got both powers at once he changed the future and set past events according to it. So now in reality there is no successor. Its a paradox. In other words, if Gabi didn't shoot Eren head off and it fell on Zeke's hands, they wouldn't have connected. This is the point of time at which Eren changed the alternate future. This episode is actually the beginning of everything. It's a grandfather paradox

Bro you should watch the finale.

I think the Attack Titan was never a Titan with any powers. It was the only Titan that Eren *chose* to send future memories to when he got founder powers. Thinking about it, the attack Titan never was special. It only became special when Eren had Founder powers.

Well, i would be like that as well, if someone made me kill many of my own kind without me even knowing, and then deciding to kill all the rest who is still alive.