Eric Bischoff SHOOTS On Vince Russo Being In Denial 

Watch Survivor Series 98. Best show Russo wrote and infinitely better than anything Bischoff could come up with in wcw. Beats anything they've done in the last 22 years on the Paul Levesque show too.

He best idea was giving EVERYONE on the roster a storyline. Yes some of them sucked but those women and dudes didn't have ANY storyline before him

@@Rschr101 no. Just no. SS 98 is better than the beginning of the nWo? No. Its better than Evolution? or the Bloodline through Sami? No. You are fucking delusional.

@@Rschr101 That was 26 years ago and it was easy being "edgy" in 1997/98 but it's not as easy anymore once you get used to see a million turns and throw in curse words. Russo hasn't written anything close to that and keep in mind that the actual say had McMahon. It's easy to come up with 100 ideas and let the boss make the decision but in WCW Russo had the responsibility to create and implement those ideas. But the question was about Russo's best WCW idea, not what his best idea ever was. And the only thing I can come up with was the Millionaire vs. Young blood storyline which they totally blew because they made the veterans become faces lmao Bischoff isn't any better creatively speaking but Russo is overrated.

​@@martifrey3357"What do you think is Vince Russo's best idea?" That's literally the question that's being asked. And if you want to bring up Vince McMahon being in WWE overseeing Russo. Then the same should be used for his time in both WCW and TNA. Where he worked with Bischoff and later Jarrett. But people don't like to bring that up cause it ruins their narrative. Which is to put all creative failure solely on Russo. While wanting to give others credit for his good ideas.

That sounds about right... poor old Corny sure is triggered by Russo existing.

Cornette paid wrestlers to sleep with his wife. Think about that

@@jimbo_1312 cornettes just mad vince mcmahon picked russo over him thank god he did because the wwe wouldnt exist .cornettes bizarre obsession with the past would of put wwe out of business. while wcw had the nwo cornette would of been booking the fabulous ones coming out of a box in 1998 🤣

​@@jimbo_1312russo helped neuter a business cornette took pride in. And it went from wwf to tna and russo says he hates wrestling so...

​@@bb-gc2tx Facts. All anyone has to do is listen to Cornette's ideas for the Invasion to hear the creative he would have implemented.

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Booker T as champ was a response to the lawsuit Turner/WCW was facing.

​@@claytron3000No it wasn't

Bringing back G.I. Bro and putting him in MIA was a Russo idea. That says it all right there…

so one idea? oh great :) theres a reason russo will the only person who will never return to wwe

Not really. In WWF and TNA he did it fine. By 2000 Eric couldn't save WCW either. People forget there was no way Russo could do much. They just point at David winning the title like McMahon is any more credible. Not for me. I know better. Marks don't

No, the problem was WCW Corporate demanded instant results, expecting Bischoff, Russo, Sullivan etc to be able to walk in and clean up a decade of Ted Turners mountain of mistakes and mismanagement in 6-8 weeks. The reality and brutally honest truth? If Time Warner was serious about rebuilding WCW and keeping it, which they weren't, or eventually selling it to a wealthy investor? WCW had to bottom out. There was no other way. WCW had to start one by one phasing out and releasing all of the once big names from their contracts and then spent 18-24 months building an entirely new product with entirely new stars. Vince Russo understood this and in fact said it during an interview with WCW's website. Instead Time Warner wanted WCW turning a profit, selling out arenas ans doing 5's in the ratings again in two months time and everyone hired for the position had to try and fast track a two year process into a two month process.

​@@I_Am_The_Social_RejectNo. Russo is an idiot.

@@I_Am_The_Social_Reject At least McMahon grew up in the business though, I'm not defending booking himself to win 2 World Titles whatsoever but Russo came in with zero experience whatsoever and had a lot of bad ideas that were either heavily filtered to be at least palatable or outright rejected because they sucked so much and then jumped over to the sinking ship that was WCW and tried shoving all those terrible concepts down everyone's throats to the point where even a magnet wouldn't have been able to save it from going under. Both Arquette and even Russo himself winning the World Title and playing hot potato with it for pretty much the whole of 2000 helped accelerate their demise, yes I appreciate that he put a bigger spotlight on the talent lower on the card and gave Booker T the main event spot he already deserved at that point but besides that, he did nothing good for WCW even if it was so far gone that he wouldn't have been able to save it regardless of what he did anyway.

That wasn't his idea.

Whose idea was ot

Yes it was ​@@TheEWFX29

And no his best idea was bringing an edgy product to WWE and booking characters based on how they should be instead of what a face or heel would do. No cookie cutter crap

Booker T said it was Russo idea

Its just a fohawk are you 80?

@@deathmauler181 It looks really bad. A good friend would have told him to cut it off before hosting a live event in front of a crowd.

@@jackjohnson5714 depending on your preferences sure but He's had this for a while on n off. Short cut hair isn't for everyone, fohawks are fairly normalized

@@deathmauler181 no self respecting guy should have a fohawk after 30.

It looks like his head was trapped in a vacuum cleaner hose for hours. It also makes him look like the kind of guy that buys himself a Ninja Turtle birthday cake.

Some time after Vince Russo was in WCW probably.

Wait, I can do better than that. They talked about an incident that happened as happening in 2023 so probably at least then.

I disagree on the denial of bad ideas. He has criticized his own crap. However, his "but" is that the results do reflect that the "hum" periods, seem to get filled by the "stupid ideas." I dunno if that makes sense. Like the pole matches seem to be born of "running out of ideas, and throwing what doesn't work at the wall, to see if they stick" those get the reactions.

Yeah you're right. In hindsight Russo does call out his own stuff at times. Still, at the end of the day he was booking when WWF was at its hottest, he improved WCW's ratings for a time and he was a huge part of TNA's success in the 2000s. There's no denying Russo has had awful ideas but he's been a typically been a net positive to every company he's been with. He's probably one of the most thankless and overlooked guys in wrestling history.

Gee the exact same model tony khan is doing.

Tell us you have zero clue about WCW without telling us.

Maybe he didn't like Booker T as champion, so for him it wasn't a good idea. What I've understood about Vince Russo is that he actually is a writer that needs a booker over him. He has ideas for guys, lots of them, but he doesn't know how to take them and use them to make money. Russo seems to work best as the guy in your creative team that when you ask for stuff for people to do, he'll give you 100's of things that these people could do, and so you pick the ones you want and use them to get people to pay for a match in a PPV. As long as a booker chooses who the guys are and what ideas to use, I think that Russo can make some contributions, probably even today. But he doesn't work as well as a booker because he doesn't know how to get his ideas to a place where people would pay a ticket or buy a PPV.

@@DuxyVargol pretty much what I see as well. Russo has value, but he doesn’t understand his role and thinks all of his ideas are good. Cornette summed him up pretty well frankly. I can totally understand why Vince thought he’d be useful on a team. Same with Cornette, but they can’t play nicely together.

When Russo was in WWE, Vince would act as something of a filter. I suspect Russo was still in that mentality early on in WCW, but then realized he didn't have to filter his ideas anymore.

​@@DG_RaizenAhh yes, the good old "filter" mythology.

​@@onewarriornation602It's totally true. You think McMahon accepted all Russo's ideas? LOL.

Very true. He doesn't have to like Russo, but to deny him credit is insane. For years now I think it's insane that the guy who was the main writer of the greatest era in history of the business gets so much shit from everyone. I get why Cornette hates him, it's pure jealousy from him. But I don't get why the fans and some people in the business follow him along on that.

I don't understand your point. He did say he never had any good ideas, he said he couldn't think of 1. Dude's old and that was 20 something years ago. Maybe Booker just didn't come to mind. Plus he admitted that not all of his own ideas were good, buy he tried to learn from then. Not only that, buy although I liked Booker T ad a performer, WCW was already dying by the time they put belt of Booker T. 1 good call that was basically a collective call doesn't change the fact that Russo was garbage without Vince McMahon turning lemons into lemonade with the shit he came up with

@@johnsw224 “the fact is the mutherfucker never came up with a good idea in his life.” - Eric Bischoff in this clip. He didn’t say he couldn’t remember brov he said he never came up with a good idea in his life. Maybe you should watch the clip before running your mouth bub.

@@johnsw224 Eric Bischoff said “the fact is the motherf**ker never had a good idea in his life.” He didn’t forget, he didn’t have trouble remembering. He flat out said Russo never had a good idea in his life with profanity. Next time you wanna run your mouth take the time to actually watch the video bub.

@@johnsw224 Eric Bischoff said “the fact is the motherf****r never had a good idea in his life.” He didn’t forget, he didn’t have trouble remembering. He flat out said Russo never had a good idea in his life with profanity. Next time you wanna run your mouth take the time to actually watch the video bub.

There is not one single redeeming quality about Vince Russo.

​@@LadyDragonsbloodPeople who worked with him disagree with you

​@@kevinlee9929 Like Jim Cornette?

@@intron1353 Like Austin, Rock, Kurt Angle, and Booker T

@@kevinlee9929 No, they don't

It really isn't. Even The Misfits In Action were better than that Bloodline garbage.

​@@onewarriornation602Is this Vince Russo's burner account?

Neither Russo nor Bischoff deserve any blame for "killing WCW", a meaningless mantra chanted on the internet. Timer Warner killed WCW, not the writers just trying to put together a show. That said, I really wish Bischoff and Russo could have and would put their ego's aside and find common ground. Those two together produced some great wrestling programming in TNA even while being at one another's throats. I can only imagine how great it would have been to see those two united and on the same page in the early 2000's.

You think pushing Jarrett was good? LMAO.

@@onewarriornation602 to a degree, I agree with you here. The Time Warner merger with AOL was the biggest factor in WCW’s death. Turner was no longer captaining the ship and it was chaos since no one on the AOL side had any interest in pro wrestling within their portfolios. And I do wholeheartedly agree that Bischoff and Russo would’ve made a hell of a team if both kept each other balanced and in check. Hogan was the big wedge in between them.

@@vincesmith2499 did I stutter? Jarrett catches a lot of criticism but those people are ignorant. Jarrett was a highly polished overall performer both in the ring and on the microphone. He was a heat magnet. The whole “Jarrett is a mid carder” is a dumb fallacy that ignorant fans online created because Jarrett did his job of getting heat. If anything, Jarrett did a damn good job of delivering considering the awful storylines and bad material he was given to work with. Jarrett has a lineage going all the way back to his father’s Memphis territory and any true fan wouldn’t laugh at him or discount Double J. He was as legit as they come.

@@DWtechfan He had X Pac heat.

Because he was at the forefront of the wrestling business when it was at its peak. People like to hear him talk about it as a result. Despite his mistakes, his opinion carries weight.

Not true Cornette is very honest about his firings or quiting. It's only his TNA that I'm iffy about but Dutch Mantel pretty much covered basically giving the same details Jim gave to what he could remember.

@@colonelkenpachi5009 Cornette has been honest about his firings, but when it comes to things like WCW dying he likes to blame Russo like he didn’t walk on to the titanic. I’m not just talking about firing though, I’m talking about addressing the hurdles they ran into.

@geneanthony3421 Cornette walked off because of Jim heard. Jim and midnight were basically being buried till both Jim and Stan left leaving only Bobby in WCW. (Bobby needed the money) When him was on WCW wasn't sinking yet at least not as bad as to where it got.

@@colonelkenpachi5009 that’s not how it ended in TNA or ROH. Both of them Cornette went off on the backstage environment issues.

@geneanthony3421 that's how it ended in WCW. TNA he was fired. And ROH he quit. But in TNA it was kind of a purging of the old guard because not just did Jim get fired Dutch got fired and a lot the former wrestler talent.

Exactly. Russo is a character guy. He doesn't do well programming the whole show.

That’s not true at all. WCW was worse than WWE pre NWO and people were constantly jumping ship. Turner merging companies ultimately killed the company along with them not keeping Eric there. Russo didn’t help like he did in WWE.

Was about to say this 🤣😂

That was a terrible storyline.

Yeah, DX, Ministry of Darkness, 3 Faces of Foley, The Rock, This Is Your Life, Too Cool, New Age Outlaws, APA, The Big Show, The Corporstion etc were all bad idea after bad idea after bad idea. 😂

Prove he came up with all that.

​@@onewarriornation602In WCW, he had nothing but bad ideas. He didn't do one thing right.

He didnt write raw, he was a writer on raw. And Vince oversaw all the writers. Russo claims more shit than he did. Notice how the minute he was a head booker in WCW it immediately fell apart? He couldnt book out backyard wrestling. He has never been successful other than a brief moment in WWE, when Vince was desperate and it was Vince who made the calls on everything.

@@Bigbudd0045 You can't even credit the head writer of Raw with writing Raw. Think about what you are saying. Is it any wonder Vince Russo is bored of dealing with people like you?

He was part of a team in every situation and frankly there's a lot of ways to look at things. Lots of people pull stunts that lead to short term profit and long term gains (politics are known for it). Russo is a guy who focuses on the short term and is gone before the damage is easily seen.

The buck only stopped with Russo in WCW and TNA. We saw how those shows looked. Vince McMahon cleared/altered everything Russo did in WWF.

​@@Bigbudd0045 He had the same role in WCW as he did in the WWF. You're delusional if you think that Vince McMahon was writing those AE shows.

Eric changed the whole climate of the wrestling world with that idea

Eric Revolutionized the entire industry with dozens of good ideas. Cope harder.

@@onewarriornation602 facts💯

Just cause it's low hanging fruit, doesn't mean it's not tasty.

@@DoctorLazers Russo made wrestling cool. He drew the highest ratings of all-time. People can't use the "Vince McMahon filter" excuse because Brian Gewirtz had the same cast plus Jericho and Kurt Angle and the ratings went down after Russo's departure.

@@Robert-zv4qu Russo made wrestling Jerry springer BS.

@@colonelkenpachi5009 It was enjoyable and it brought in millions of casual fans. This is why wrestling is trash today, because wrestling marks/Russo haters are ruining the product. I will choose Russo's Jerry Springer writing over anything today.

@Robert-zv4qu it was a giant mixed bag of mostly bad ideas but very few bright spots. Don't make me list some of Russo's ideas. The casual audience were already pulled not because of Russo and his ideas but because of the talent he was working with. Great talent can turn chicken shit into chicken salad. The stars that were already built are what made the attitude era, not Russo.

What good idea? Or better yet, what got over and what got people killed, injured, fired or quit. Russo did FAR greater legitimate damage to the wrestling industry than anything that might have hit the wall that Vince McMahon modified and used.

Russo and Bischoff worked together for only a few months in WCW (from April 2000 on) - Russo was the writer and Bischoff was a consultant for Turner . He also got paid to be an on-air talent. And that was some of the worst creative in all of pro wrestling history. So Bischoff CAN be right, based on what he knew or saw.

@@claytron3000 oh of course he can be right but so can Russo. It is a fact that wcw ratings did actually improve when Russo was there.

@alanw9620 they didn't tho, the ratings in the dying days of WCW was way down and that's all on Russo

@@colonelkenpachi5009 not actually true. Yes the ratings were down the last few years the ratings when Russo joined went up before going back down once he actually left, you can actually look it up. There was a lot going on that led to the downfall of WCW. And Russo was long gone by the time WCW was finished for good

He contributed dog shit. That was all McMahon, Cornette, JR, or Prichard. Russo was always a lying sack of shit.

WRONG.

Of course tony khan is like vince russo😅

@@Thedice-fr6dy dude he is nothing like him.

TNA never got great, and WWE was still great for over a year after Russo left.

Russo was HORRIBLE in WCW. Zero upside whatsoever.

@@vincesmith2499 WWE still was Attitude and used the talent he wrote for....... try again. And yes, TNA was indeed great

@@vincesmith2499 WCW sucked before and after Russo. Try again

@@I_Am_The_Social_Reject Nope. TNA was never even halfway decent.

Not a huge Bischoff fan myself... but, guess you have never heard Screwso talk... I think Bischoff and Cornette have a right to speak about him, the way he speaks about them. Russo is a joke, was a joke and always will be a joke in wrestling.

@@LadyDragonsblood that’s what i’m saying. if the intensity of cornette’s sentiments towards bischoff and russo were flipped, that would be confusing. but since they’re not, it just makes sense just the way it is

Everyone shits on Russo, cause he's a clown. Eric is not unique in this.

Russo didn't take Bischoff's job he took Kevin Nash's job Kevin was the booker before Russo

nWo, lWo, nWo Hollywood, nWo Wolfpack, nWo Japan, nWo B-Team, nWo Elite. It couldn't have been ran into the ground anymore than it was.

it was no one thing with WCW, it was just a whole bunch of things. Part of it was always approach. The WWE conceipt was always Wrestling as a TV show, the Crocket/NWA to WCW was lets televise wrestling, i know that sounds the same, but its not. Bringing in Hogan and Macho, and then Hall and Nash and the nWo was a solid idea, but they over did it with too many stars. Rick Rude? Just to stand around? How many matches did Perfect have? What was the point of Virgil? Giving hogan creative control was a collosal mistake. The most favored nation status in Hall's contract was also a stupid idea. That being said. No one has beaten vince other than Bischoff, for 93 weeks. No one.

@@Bigbudd0045 Agreed. A shit sandwich.

​@@Bigbudd0045the ironic thing is that I internally in Turner WCW was looked at as a tv business and Vince and his guys looked at WWF as a live event business promoted on tv.

There are a lot of moving parts there, and there was a lot that was a problem with WCW. The biggest issue was the WCW Model and vision in Ted Turners mind had a shelf life, and was destined to fail. Let's go back in history. Ted Turner didn't buy JCP because he "loved pro rasslin and dreamed of being a promoter." Back in the 1980's Ted Turner decided he wanted to own the WWF as part of his portfolio and bragging rights, so he approached Vince and told him he wanted to buy the WWF. Vince told him no, he wasn't interested in that. JCP was bought and WCW existed as a personal vendetta between Turner and McMahon. The fact that for the firs time in Turners career someone told him no ate him alive. It was his personal mission and obsession to put the WWF put of business. That was the whole platform. That was the every day end goal. This put Eric Bischoff as well as later Vince Russo in no win situations. Marks on the internet shit on Bischoff every chance they get, but the reality is Ted Turner didn't hire Bischoff and go "Eric, I want you to make me a good product that turns a nice profit." He hired Bischoff and said "Eric, go put that Vince asshole out of business." Unfortunately the only way to have done that was pay far more than Vince paid to poach big nesz then sign as much of the talent available out there as possible and hope it holds out long enough that you hit your goal and kill off the other guys business before you have too big of a mess to clean up. Vince Russo inherited Ted Turners mess. Just like with Bischoff, Russo wasn't told by Time Warner Execs who were now in charge of the mess Turner made, "Vince, scrap everything and rebuild it from scratch over the next two years." He was hired and told "turn this mess around in the next few months or we'll hire someone else." The Meltzer and Alvarez as well as McMahon revisionist history that is parrotted regarding WCW is irritating as fuck at this point.

No. He was awful.

@ChewyChicken589 Found Russo's account It's even called chicken shit