ERIC BISCHOFF: "VINCE RUSSO BELIEVES HIS OWN LIES!" 

Guess he'd want to turn her back blonde too

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He didn't execute it formally, but that's the reason Siegel agreed to go with Eric and Hulk's plan cuz he knew Hogan could force it if he wanted to

Bischoff never explains what Russo lies about. Bischoff's Bash at the Beach story has holes all in it

@@XtremeEffect You’re a mook😒

@@XtremeEffect facts this is the rare time russo doesnt look bad!!!!! n saying that russo believes his shit what a way to cover his ass that way if vince did pass he already has his excuse!!

@@bassclay100 exactly. Russo says all the time he'd talk to Eric anytime. Eric would get exposed so he just uses the ole "Russo is delusional" excuse

​@@bassclay100hey Vince 👋 lying ass

I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Who would want to have a conversation with Russo?

How would you explain cornette who can't stand russo either?

@@Incurious_ he is actually a really good guy people may not like his booking but most people say he is a good person

Unfortunately that ended up being one of their downfalls. Hulk didn't even want to join nwo. Just by that it sounds like he shouldn't have had any creative control.

There's a difference between a perspective and straight lies. Russo is guilty of manufacturing a reality that did not exist in WWF and WCW. Bischoff has a perspective of what happened that no one else can since no one else held his position and did not have the insight into the workings of things that he did. Russo was simply a writer that got too big for his role, Bischoff was the leader of a company that nearly brought down Vince McMahon, which we now know can only be done by Vinces own penis and nothing else.

Eric B is your go-to pot for all things culinary and Russo is the kettle your grandmother gave you in the attic. Given how successful he was compared to Russo, there really isn’t a comparison between the two. If Bishoff is a liar, Russo is living in another reality.

Eric, Russo and Prichard are all pathological! I love these podcasts, but they all lie and fabricate whatever they want to in order to entertain and put themselves over!!

At least for bischoff he comes across as intelligent to an extent. All Russo does his blame everyone else and say bro. Not going to say Russo never had any good ideas or this or that but bischoff I think had more success overall throughout his entire career

Eric is what russo wished he could be. Without vince mcmahon, pat Patterson, and the whole wwe machine behind him russo never got anyone over. In 2002 russo came back for like 2 weeks before being fired because his ideas suck.

Brad Segal didn't want to fire Vince Russo because he had signed him to a contract and for Segal to fire Russo very early it would have looked even worst on him😂

@@louio they could have sent Russo home like they did 3 months into his first run.

Eric has been clear about the fact that they agreed on everything up to the part where Hogan and Eric were supposed to leave the building. However, Russo clearly took the opportunity to implement his own version of the plan, because Sharmell, Konnan, and Lance Storm all said that everything that everything Russo said in the ring wasn't mentioned on their programs. Work shoots are supposed to be mentioned in the talent's programs.

Didn't Eric say that the promo was planned as well. It was only an issue because Russo took it too far (in their opinion) and didn't call Hogan afterwards as he was supposed to do. As we now know, he was instructed not to call Hogan back since Siegel told him they could no longer afford him

it will be huge for the views even if they go at it .

Get Cornette to moderate the debate.

Eric doesn't want to get called on his BS. And Conman would rather talk about people behind their back then have them on the show. Russo has offered numerous times. These guys are afraid to debate him. Just like Cornette.

​@@mandolinman2006 Cornette is terrified of Russo tho.

Russo would just continue lying like he usually does. There is no "clearing the air" with Russo. What are the chances that a debate on podcast is going to compel Russo to tell the truth when sitting in front of a TV audience didn't do it?

Would love to see them two do a podcast talking about all the old stuff. And probably arguing.

And he challenged Cornette. These guys are all scared of Russo proving them wrong.

It's like Biden challenging someone to a debate. You know they're just going to lie, so what's the point in being roped in by it if you don't have anything to gain from it? I wouldn't waste my precious time debating Russo either. He's a pathological liar who can never keep his stories straight. The man said he was more over than 80% of WCW's roster, like ppl wanted to see him on their TV. You can't reason with someone like him.

Eric acknowledged this in the "Who Killed WCW?" video. He admitted he did that, and he okay'ed it, and he said in hindsight it was not a good idea

Sting himself said the he was in a bad place and Eric did not want to betray Sting with what was actually happening and the only answer he could give was that Sting was not taking care of himself to the point where he was not even tan which is not normal for Sting. In later videos, Eric said that since Sting disclosed some of what he was doing that he felt a tiny bit more comfortable in saying that Sting was in a messed up place and they were hoping to hide it with that botched ending. Be better and know the full story before just repeating the same nonsense crap like an imbecile.

No tan..no smile...doesn't work for me brother...not today

When you combine all accounts: The reason for the discrepancies: The finish was changed from the original plan of Sting winning clean; the change was decided a few hours prior to the PPV, in where Hogan was set to win (Hence, Eric telling Nick that it would be a regular count), Hogan reiterated this to Nick when they spoke (slow count just meant regular/decisive; 3 actual seconds), but ultimately it was changed to be a fast count, which involved capitalizing on the Bret Hart Screwjob, angle... The last thing Nick was told about his involvement in the actual finish was by Sting, informing him that it now involved a fast count (rapid fire baby)... Everyone else that were in need of knowing the new finish were also informed of the change (Nick says he was busy handling other matches throughout the night... Hence, Sting's relay...) Nick says prior to the match, that he could not find Eric to confirm the change, so he went with an in between count: fast and regular, "so no one gets what they want"... For Nick to say that he could not find Eric to confirm the change, when Eric's match was the one that preceded the mainevent suggests this claim to obviously be of embellishment... Before the match, as seen in the PPV; before Sting's entrance: Hogan and Nick have a conversation (as you can find and see for yourself, if you have means of watching the HQ version): (Nick asks the first part, off screen) Hogan: "Help me do what?" Nick: "Help you setup the false finish" Hogan: "Mm..ahhh, give me about 14 minutes..." Nick: "Alright." (As he is turning and heading towards the camera, to ring side; to relay this information; so Hart can be informed...) (Hogan continues taunting around the ring...) (The announcers knew; the wrestlers knew; Bischoff knew; production knew and Nick knew (but He claims he questioned whether it was correct: So, he did an in between, whilst also stating it was much faster than the pin counts you find in the WWF...) Bret Hart has explained that he confronted the ref, backstage: "What happened, It was supposed to be a fast count", and Nick said: "Oh, I forgot..." (Nick even expected to be fired; He knew he should have performed a more convincing; faster count; he also actually believes the count he performed was indeed fast...) On top of all this: Hollywood Hogan (the hottest heel in wrestling at the then peak of WCW and nWo popularity) intentionally making himself the babyface of the match, is one of the dumbest things one could actually believe took place on that night (it would benefit no one)...

Also, consider: the inclusion of Bret Hart into the finish, as a result of the trepidations into how well Sting might perform in the match and as champion; less than as effectively, as focused and as believable as they were expecting, (ultimately, opting to still give the audience and the fans what they wanted, and came there to see), is in fact a testament to the trust they obviously had in Bret Hart, to help deliver (as they seen it) a more affective, impactful, meaningful and believable finish... Whilst also creating an angle that could best utilize Bret Hart as much as legally possible (with a broken hand, during his non-compete clause period) whereby (off the heels of the Montreal Screwjob; the month prior) capitalizing on the still trending, hottest wresting controversy at the time, with Bret set to prevent another Screwjob of its own, from being carried out by the nWo; during the most anticipated wrestling match of the time, on the then highest rated wrestling program, in the world... (And All Nick Patrick had to do was perform the fast count, which everyone involved knew was supposed to occur and they were all expecting to see...)

Oh shut up ya mook😒

But at the same time panzer also said that he didn’t like Russo booking because it was low rent , didn’t make sense

Vince has corroborated Eric's story. The unplanned circumstances were the shoot promo that Terry thought was a step too far, and believed that Vince had slandered his Character... Vince says the reason he did the shoot, was: for what transpired with Hogan and Jarret to make sense, and that he may have gone too far (He also said he was told not to call Hogan, (even though he told him he would), as WCW could no longer afford Hogan; Vince takes responsibility in not calling Hulk, when he should have, to explain the situation)... So, I'm not sure of how Booker T getting the belt, that night, was argued as not being a part of the (albeit, new) plan? Has Eric said that it wasn't?

@@cryptocon. His recent retelling of the story was that Hulk was supposed to come back at Halloween Havoc with the belt. He acts like he didn't know anything about Booker T. He said last week that the promo was just Russo going into business for himself and doing what HE wanted to do and that wasn't the plan and he got the company sued. Penzer told Eric that Booker was told to bring a suit to Nitro because it was planned in advance that Booker was leaving that show with the title. Eric, backed into a corner, told Penzer that he believes Russo hurried and got with Brad Siegel after they left the building and came up with everything else that happened. But he made it clear that what Russo did wasn't what Hulk wanted to do. Still never gets asked what was gonna fill the rest of the PPV time. Where Eric is full of shit is, back in 2018 when 83 Weeks covered this topic, Eric couldn't remember hardly anything from this event or most events from WCW's history and Conrad was always making fun of him for saying he didn't remember

How would penzer know?

Didn't he also get his buddy Ed Ferrara to pretend to exaggerate the disabilities of Jim Ross and get his friend Dr Death to join in ! Shows you all what you need to know commence the "It's a work BROOO!!!"

He was also the Fat Chick Thriller before that, right?

To be fair, awesome had the charisma of a malignant tumor

​@@sobbyhasselhoff his mic skills were decent in ECW.

​@@sobbyhasselhoff to be fair neither of fat chick thriller and 70s guy didn't help. If anything it brought it way down

Damn fightful joining the party

WRES-UH-LING!

Vince Russo Never Admit His Wrongs. Eric Bischoff Always Had. Eric By Far The Most Honest Podcaster. WWE Sucks. Vince Russo Asskissers Why Not. Jump On Jim Corbett’s Back Because Cornette Hates Russo Most.

When has he done that?

Russo blames everything & everyone else for his failures 😂😂😂😂

Russo only regrets Oklahoma in WCW, everything else he stands by.

I don't think any of these people admit their mistakes: Bischoff, Heyman, Prichard, Russo, Cornette. Must be the carnie mindset lol

From what I've seen he does admit that he screwed up those things, plus don't forget eric did lead WCW to beat wwe

And what morons like you never realize is that the Fingerpoke of Doom led to a massive increase in interest and ratings. In the first 3 months of 1999, Nitro had a higher average rating than in the last 6 months of 1998. SuperBrawl went on to become the third biggest selling PPV in WCW History. It's amazing how people still follow Meltzer's (or the clowns from the fictional Death of WCW Book) narrative about it, when the facts are: It worked and it wasn't until late April that the booking from Nash became so bad, that it drove away the audience for good.

You can tell that's the case because of how angry Eric gets on the matter.

This

You’re a sex worker saver

Shane McMahon enters the chat

Yawnnnn

Reminds of the the time where he actually tried to argue that the Main Event Mafia was better than The Bloodline. It's crazy that ppl actually trusts what he says. He's a lunatic.

Yeah but to be fair, you'd think from what we know about Andre he probably told hulk to do that.

They're the 2 most successful in the business since 1990. Nobody has achieved higher ratings than those 2 in 30 years.

It was the NWO gimmick that saved wrestling (well introduced us to the best era of it) and it was Eric that was the one trying to get hogan to turn heel and join it to be fair.

Whatever you say bro

And look at how he handled that. Like a five year old not getting his way.

Viagra on a pole match

And Booker T made a good point. Russo could have just folded to Hogan's demands and gave Hogan the belt. But Russo did what he had to for Booker to have his moment.

@@kevinlee9929 wherever you work I’m not going 😂

@@Evilash1303 I could careless. No one wanted another Hogan title reign, but you Bischoff and Hogan. Glad Booker got his moment.

Yea right

I mean you’re correct but are you not able to understand what he meant, grammar guy?

And Eric Bischoff killed WCW by bending over backwards for Hulk Hogan.

Think they both made errors. Not sure Eric could even stop hogan, apparently he had creative control in his contract.

WCW was done before Russo ever showed up

how come 25 year old young guy beating 47 year old is unbelievable?

Eric Would Destroy Russo. Bischoff still Can Go With His Karate. Vince Russo Is Real Delusion. Eric Bischoff Admitted Nobody Wanted To See Him Wrestle.

With Cornette officiating!

​@@GenXerReactsit would never happen in a million years unfortunately but it would be brilliant.

Russo has wanted to do a podcast with both Eric and Jim, nothing came of it

They really should try and work it out and do it. They would get do many views!

Are you bret hart in disguise 😂

​@@paul2k2b21 Disguise in the back of my mind! Bret the Broman Hart, reporting for doodie.

Cant u see? He's fucking his audience

Bret just lost passion after the screwjob. His heart just wasn't in it anymore. He was fuming with wwf on the inside. You can't blame WCW on this.

@@mrnicemam8523 not sure if he was though. Every interview you see with bret he basically says he was desperate to make wcw better than wwe and screw vince. He also said no one listened to anything and most of the ideas were terrible. Kind of agree with him after what they did with his debut.

​@mrnicemam8523 that has nothing to do with the way WCW debuted him.

@@DLFLux yeah this is what I was thinking. The way they debuted him was awful. Such a waste of what could have been an epic moment.

@@paul2k2b21 How would you have debuted him? He was a part of the main event with sting and hogan. Granted the finish was botched but he was involved in the biggest match of the century. Don't know what else could have been done?

Bischoff was creatively bankrupt after the nWo. He put David Flair in a Nitro main event. Ruined TNA with Aces and Eights

Wcw did the attitude era first. And wwf jumped in the bandwagon. Remember bischoff saying wwf was aiming at kids so wcw decided to go after adults with more adult content.

@@XtremeEffect the nwo was absolutely stardust when it started. Just seemed like they didn't know where to go with it.

@@XtremeEffect You’re a mook😒

Lol

By that logic Bischoff didn't make Hogan, Hall or Nash stars.

@@kevinlee9929 no he didn’t, without them already being stars the nwo would not have worked in the first place.

He did make them all fresh and more popular though.

@@Evilash1303 And without Russo's influence there is no guarantee that Austin and Rock become what they did. We saw how VKM was booking The Rock before Russo got involved with creative. He was smiling happy babyface Rocky Maivia.

When he was revealed as the 3rd man, ratings went up.

Yeah when he joined nwo they blew ratings up

Yeah ratings blew up like mad when he joined nwo, probs one of best story lines in wrestling history

the ratings went down because they ran that nwo angle into the ground by having everyone in wcw join it instead of keeping it a small group of people who the wcw heroes had to keep fighting against

@@kerpal321 yeah it got so ridiculous in the end. It completely killed the belief in it. Then they had nwo wolf pack, should have just kept it like the size of 5 people max