Eric Hovind OFFICIALLY accepts atheism is true and accurate 

Dont forget tho throw in the argument:"your argument is invalid because you said that maybe nothing exists"

that means maybe even god doesn't exist oh wait where the fuck is he now no where he doesn't exist

sven blatter Yes but he did not answer the question so who looks stupid.

LMAO 100%

somehow, less stupid than this guy.

lol

we're not even there yet!

+Alex Orsi Yeah lol, his question is basically this: Does your mom know you're gay, Yes or No? I was thinking that the whole time.

I wish I did. I don't know if I can finish it.

@tonyb24242424 lots of alcohol

THESE WARNINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE JOKES!!!! How could i have imagined... and that dudes cognitive dissonance and one digit iq was contagious i was paralyzed and couldn’t stop watching. This is some dangerous shit

No this is Patrick yes at this point the only way to survive is to temporarily impair your cognitive processes, i recommend a bottle whiskey, a big blunt, a shot of heroin and a bottle of sleeping pills. Double that to be safe

I wish i did... 25 minutes in and i quit. i just quit

@16:10

@@EeeBeee2 damn I saw that and thought “did he say that twice or something” and then I saw how far into the video I was

+B8m8 Wuts *his

+Ged Unsworth Welcome to talking to religious people.

I would've lost my shit half way through

+Ged Unsworth I disagree. A brick wall would make better conversation

+Ged Unsworth yes. talking to thunderfoot is like talking to a brick wall.

You're not alone, I just did the same thing.

To be fair it was worth it in the end when everybody applauded him!

Wilhelm Wilhelmsen that's true

Rectal Tenesmus You were in for a true classic: "Are chemical reactions in your brain TRUE?"

I dipped out at 8:36

You must have cringied so hard you broke a few bones xD (sorry if my english sucks a little :v)

Luckan Zetriel Don't worry about it lol, English isn't my first language, either

awildmoose I also wached with no breaks, and everytime he said "thunderf00t gave up atheism" something inside of me died

Luckan Zetriel same here, haha. I should have taken the warning at the start of the video more seriously.

awildmoose I thought I was hardcore enough... boy, was I wrong xD

Gods word = 🚬🥴

As a person who spent most of my childhood on drugs and still got through school fine (finished HS with a B- in US terms) I take offense at this, tbh. EDIT: By this I mean, no, he's like a guy who's brain's been waxed smooth from decades of (meth)amphetamine abuse.

@@MrChaosBones so he woke up from religious faith.

I am wishing to become very violent!!!!

​@quinzerrak4975 Because New York existing, because of reasons.

It looks like he's trying to hold it together.

+Ciroluiro right?

+Meow ster true or false?

Ciroluiro We arnt talking about what I believe, we are talking about what YOU believe. Lets assume I am wrong and you are right. Show me what makes you right

+Ciroluiro Well first you have to define what red or green is. You see on a color spectrum whe.... We are not even talking about that right now.

+shishido7 oh god this whole thing is so accurate that i got legit flashbacks XD

Matthew Witt dude this the coment of the month

Damn XD

Matthew Witt you are a credit to the "Witt" family

Matthew Witt you are a savage

I think you dropped your fedora

Religious : ( 👉🤪👈 ) la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la God's word is all I care about la la la la la la la la la

I just got the recommendation today. And totally agree

@Mighty Mouse Girlfriend yup lol

The sad part is the idiot hes debating walked away thinking he won

I want to like your comment but I can't ruin the 69 likes.

That's a brilliant analogy. I realize most people on either side would just answer the questions flat out in which you've fallen into his trap by accepting his definitions.

everytime the christion makes a question he tries to divide by zero

***** It's like arguing with a piece of rubber. Everything bounces off.

best comment ever.

Who are we talking about here, Eric Hovand or Thunderf00t?

I think you mean secular... not circular

+sugashak329 why not both?

I meant circular. Lemme give an example. "God exists because this book says so, this book is right because it was made by god."

+Cally ummmm.... no! you can not repurpose words just to suit your case.

Uhhhh The fuck does that mean? Do you mean changing the definition of words?(Didn't do that) Or using words to liken something or make an argument? I really need clarification.

Hey Steve, shame our old comment chain has died. And yeah you're right about Eric, like father like son

+False Flagger I've lost count on how many of my comments have hit that 500 comment wall. I'm waking up to like 20 to 30 people responding to my comments a day. 95% are the same tiresome idiotic moronic assertions based upon a 2nd grade understanding of basic sciene, but the other 5% really make me feel good :)

Steve McRae That 5% is worth it then.

Steve McRae And forgive me I'm not american, 2nd grade for 6 year olds?

I found you on "creationsts fail at attacking Bill Nye" Nice comment there.

We'll get to that later

I think that cheeseburgers go well with fries

@@freedomgoddess Is blue true?

@@freedomgoddess That does not compute in the inputs to my binary logic. I think it smells more like 567 nanometer wavelength photons.

@@Five_y_kay But do you know what photons taste like?

And then "You said something that I forced you to say under hypothetical situations based on assumptions and then I'm gonna argue everything you say on that" That dude is a total fucking joke I have no idea how Thunderf00t was able to keep himself so composed

Yep tf would not fallow Eric/sye scrip watch the syeten vs Matt dillahunty debate if you want break your keyboard lol

This, so much

He must be FLAT EARTH NONSENS too this Erick duuud

@Cray Fishe no it was not it is and always will be a pointless question. Lets explore for example. Is it impossible that the flying spaghetti monster exists? It is a question that means nothing. And "how much of all knowledge do you have" is equally pointless because 'all knowledge' is yet to be quantified

STR33TSofJUST1C3 Insults are all fun and good, but his only power is the attention we give him. In his mind, he thinks he is winning. We encourage him by trying to best him with logic. There is no such thing as beating an idiot with logic.

+Max Lorge not gonna lie i heard that question and my brain auto corrected his sentence in order to save itself from implosion from "are chemical reactions true or false" to "do chemical reactions occur, true or false"

He was a moron like a fox, and thunderfoot wasn't smart enough to avoid it.

We will pray to the Spaghetti Monster to grant you strength and keep you safe in this difficult time brother!

Jhon Smith Thats super interesting. I dont give a fuck, but thats super interesting.

I think he fucked up the tone of this. I think what he was trying to ask was "Can you categorize chemical reactions as true or false?" and he was trying to trap Thunderf00t into saying no so he could say "Then why are you categorizing mine as wrong?" I'm not religious but if I was I'd be face palming so hard watching Eric argue. At this point, I've put my hand through my skull and I'm all palming, as someone who doesn't believe what he believes...

and "are the chemical reactions in my brain true or false?" ... if god exists, then i want to ask him why he wasted skin on that guy ...

cercular logic at its finest

"The first rule of Tautology Club is the first rule of Tautology Club." - xkcd

How does he know the voice in his head is God?

"seems like a circular argument"

Robert Johnston he never heard God in his head,he said it somewhere at start

This is assuming all Christians are taught Christianity from their parents, which simply isn't always true.

Cosmic Sloth 99% of the time. And dont forget, people who are desperate. Like my grandfather who died of lungcancer. He too started believing in God. He was desperate. And I completely understand. I also noticed how most people who whent through complete shit like homeless people stop believing in God. The human mind is a complex thing. Not everyone can comprehend the universe.

It is sad tho that Christians can't debate atheism. I mean they could if they knew what to talk about and what questions to ask.

The question "How do you know god doesn't exist?" has a very simply answer from me. I don't know that he doesn't exist. However, I refuse to accept that he does without evidence.

+Dale Smith You could actually do it. By disproving the miracles of God in the bible is one.

Frank Turek: “hOw MuCh dOeS jUsTiCe WeiGh?

This analogy is priceless. Thanks for the laugh :)

fuck this is so accurate lmfao

Completely apart from the argument, to me 5 is red.

We all know 5 is blue

***** he is rich coz there is lots of stupid ppl out there ...

***** The very first question isnt loaded. But you feel trapped by it then you will play little games to try to get out of it. You atheists are so incapable of rational debate. You hold to your position like liberlas and conseratives. When Eric asks the question, " Is it impossible for God to exist?" Why not just say, " No it's not impossible." Why play games? I mean, ok, so its not an impossibility. Does not prove God exists. Why play games?

abeeftec well if u answer NO then next question can u proof it again answer NO =His logic (god must be real then...) he wants it to be simple but he make it complex coz truth is simple but he cant proof his truth (assumption that god is real) so he makes it complex and go on offensive with can u dis-proof it move... But that is again stupid coz he wish to show us god and why we need to disproof it to him ?? He suppose to proof to us his existence... coz he is the 1 forcing his religion upon atheists so its his duty to proof his existence not are to disaproof it ...( my personal opinion there is no god there is only folklore old 10's of thousands years past down from culture to culture every new culture interprets it differently and have different vision of god entity,laws,traditions and rules ) how ever they are are past tales-mixed with lots of bullshit uneducated ppl at the time trusted to and deserve place in museum ...)

abeeftec Becuase the MOMENT Thunderf00t says that, Eric will simply dodge a response, move onto the next 'question' and will later claim that Thunderf00t believes in god. Thunderf00t KNOWS this will happen so he tries to answer a vague ridiculous question with an answer that allows him to expand and elaborate rather than Eric moving the Mic away

abeeftec The question "is it impossible for go to exist" is a stupid question and is flagged immediately in any conversation between a christian and an atheist By "flagged" I mean that immediately after that question is asked, the atheist KNOWS that the christian is just a dick with an agenda. The sheer number of logical fallacies and verbal tricks presented reminds me of the time that a guy came to my house and tried to sell me a great vacuum cleaner.. and I didn't buy that shit either

Omniscience is in itself logically impossible. An omniscient being would know the future. Thus, the future must be predetermined. If the future is predetermined, then an omniscient being cannot know a way to change the future. That is something that it does not know.

Jai Carlson Absolutely true!

Jai Carlson But what if the future isn't predetermined? It doesn't really have to be predetermined for a god to supposedly know what the future holds.

You know those three things because he told you they're true and after all he can't lie

+Jai It wouldn't have to be predetermined, why? An omniscient entity can know every possible future and what to influence to get to it. If he can't get to some future, he nevertheless knows how it would be. Such a person's knowledge would have to take into account that the universe may have parallel futures branching every Planck time or shorter, I don't know that much about quantum physics. Basically, he would have to know every future possible, so the knowledge of every another second forwards would get exponentially bigger (as in, knowledge of every tomorrow would take up 1TB but of every 15.07.2030 would take up, say, 1000000000000YB of data because of every possible split). The entity can choose to do nothing to let the future unfold or do something to get to a future he wants by, figuratively speaking, "splitting the worldline" where needed. Why would the world only have one future? Your every decision makes the future somewhat different, and important decisions of, say, a government or multibillion company can change the future dramatically.

I'm not 😂

Why would you punch him?? Just leave and let him believe. I'm pretty sure YOU believe in some kind of nonsense...

i think it’s because how infuriating it is dealing with a closed feedback loop that pretends to hold a conversation

i think, it's not impossible to find that out

Colours can have 'weight' just nit physical one. Is we say in a metaphorical way red has weight we either suggest it's dominate or that it's important. But that is because I'm exploiting use of an alternative meaning if something having weight.

Well I mean, physical red will have weight such as grams of anything used to cause whatever we're making red. But all this depends on analytics and measurements.. not on our world view or philosophy of red lol. Or in some cases pedantry which is the entire case of this video. Remember kids, any conversations with pedantry will never go anywhere as they don't seek to come to an understanding, but to constantly shift the understanding until they arrive to whatever meaning they want it to be. Words don't have meaning unless we stick with them. None of what I said makes sense with pedantry, and neither would anything else.

Bobby Andersan That's a stupid question Bobby! Everybody knows red weights about 2 meters +/- 0.003%; almost as high as 4 greens....🤔

In a atheist worldview so what? You can't even justify uniformity in nature so why complain about it when your just a bag of stardust having chemical reactions?

The closest thing that would make sense would be to ask, “Do chemical reactions exist? Is that true or false?” Otherwise, I’m lost on what he meant with that question 🤔

@@MysteriousFuture evidently so. Oh wait, how do I know that.

false

My best answer to that question is that a trap!

But guys don’t be afraid, nasa only made this advanced human looking machine for one purpose: to host and honnor the father of all AI, who took astronauts to the moon. It has 1300 tiles less ram then an iphone, don’t blame him for falling prey to religion. Even robots make mistakes

+biomechanism1 He'd probably have an infinitely small amount of information. Since infinity can always expand further.

+biomechanism1 he is for real, that is the scary part. And he has a daughter. So you know the stupid will just keep on going.

That was what Mr. religion was going for, trying to pushThunderf00t into saying that, since there is infinite knowledge then we know nothing. Then he could say that Thunderf00t has no foot to stand on (no pun intended). Mr. religion on the other hand has _absolute knowledge_ (because god gave it to him) so he is right in saying that he does exist, and "wins" the argument. A total bullshit circular assumption of course, with no beginning or end, which is why arguing with one of these can give you a serious migraine.

we would posses an infinitely small small amount of information. so small in fact that there would not be a word to describe how much we possesed.

ForeverChanging Lazarus I'd say the word to describe the amount of information we'd have is basically none.

it's the scientific method to say, "you are an idiot."

He meant to say employing I believe

and don't forget "Religion is a model with no predictive ability" :-)

but how much does blue weigh?

You can't be intellectually honest and say you know everything there is to know and thus you you can't disprove that God does not exist. All Christians try these logical fallacies. That's why thunderf00t didn't answer a lot of questions. They were loaded questions.

@@theoconstantinica7969 Actually he is missing a few key arguments that would be sufficient to refute the existence of God. In addition, some of his points would need more clarity. The primary argument is that something is either a primary/absolute or a contingent on a primary. Therefore if God exists, and God is omnipotent then your reason, and knowledge are contingent upon God. Since all your knowledge is contingent that includes your knowledge of God. Therefore the claim to know God exists contradicts God's existence. You can summarize it as the following, if God exists you can't know it and if you claim to know God exists then he can't exist. The premise that he was working on was the onus of proof principle in combination with the dismissal of arbitrary claim principle. If your claim presents no evidence then it is arbitrary, and should be dismissed out of hand because reasoning requires facts. The onus of proof states that the person presenting a claim must present evidence for the claim and that a person isn't required to prove a negative. On this premise though you usually have to be able to answer a barrage of claims to evidence, none of which are valid ultimately though.

@@nierlindin1006 your arguments are incomplete

@ photons can't have 0 mass

IKR. There jogging can purple?

True. I guess.

That part actually made me upset lol

It even funnier than that because his argument is that how can my opinion be false when what’s happening in my brain is chemical reactions but you told me chemical reactions are neither true nor false

@@carsondamon4513 Well he wants to say that it ISN'T chemical reactions, it's made out of soul stuff. That's why it can be true or false. But that doesn't work either, since vocalizations (sound waves), digital videos posted to youtube, copies of the Bible, etc., are all chemical things that don't have soul stuff (they aren't even living) but they still can contain falsehoods and truths.

Harry Evett This deserves a Nobel Prize...... from Alfred Nobel himself

BUTHOWDOYOUKNOWTHAT

IF YOU ASSUME ISN'T TRUE!!!!!!!

I just facepalmed myself five time in the first 6 minutes. I don't know if I can physically make it to the end of the video. Might end up dead. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

A LeAnn Its even harder, when u not have a native tongue. Oh man that hurts.

That's why he is a scientist, being a scientist requires this level of tolerance.

​@@aragon988, He is a professional and seasoned speaker, at least somewhat more, it seems then his opponent. Has nothing to do with being a scientist by itself and how could it.. Since most scientists don't make a living speaking and nor could they just do so, without practice and training. Let's be smart and not make scientists out to be more than just people who have a certain amount of education and not necessarily trained and learned orators debators, as Thunderf00t is, to some degree, at least.

The person he's speaking to probably can, and probably does, vote. These are members of our society and we best serve ourselves to engage in these kinds of debates, even if they seem futile. If not for those present, then for it to be carried in the minds of those watching in person or digitally on RU-vid to convey to others. it is good that a person "on-the-fence" sees how stupid and obstinate this Christian is being.

Its not even that mate. Its trying to explain someone the basic concept of how to define what is real...

but what about when the pigs start walking on two legs and abandon their nature it can be hard to tell which people are pigs

I don't understand Why, why is this world so atheist.. Guys, I think I was agnostic for a while, But there came a day I was desperate, And I gave my life to Jesus one night, He showed up, He made me feel his love, He Put a new heart in that felt in fire for God. i know for myself Jesus Christ is real, I wasn't raised in the church, yet I had an experience without that. You're maybe reading this thinking how to say something backhanded, To say "You have no proof.." But just think to yourself, Maybe there is as God. Don't try to be arrogant atheists, Be humble and search for your creator, His name is Jesus Christ, Seek him please. He's the only way. Thank you for reading

DON'T FEED IT GUYS!!!!!

only 48 😂 damn that was hard to watch

Yeah, he was basically talking with a mentally unstable person.

Ideon how do you know that if you don't know if that you do don't Oh I've gone cross eyed.

To pay for our sins

+Phil Johnson lol he has a talk show it seems.

+Phil Johnson I really don't want to hear about covering that another time, we will discuss that later.

+SigneM-Prut#1 he's trying to open his mind up to different ways of thinking because the formation of the questions are silly

+SigneM-Prut#1 Huh, I don't get your point. Thunderfoot was just not willing to play Hovind's game. Hovind has a line of questions and answers already prepped such that it doesn't matter what the interlocutor answers, he can just *GOTCHA* no matter what. I think it makes sense to just dip right out of that rhetorical loop right from the start. Perhaps he should have been more clear about that, but that is what is going on in this 'conversation'.

+SigneM-Prut#1 Because the other guy keeps eluding some of his questions.

@Mike Schwab woooosh

@@Zarien_DiV Please stop using internet.

@@Zarien_DiV it was 12 minutes 4 months ago.

Came across this website - www.doesgodexistandbeyond.com/evidenceoftheresurrection/ investigates Christianity with Reason and Logic. Examining Evidences and Sources. And answers skeptic accusations trying to discredit Jesus and the Resurrection. Also explains Proven Biblical Manuscript History ( Historiography ) www.doesgodexistandbeyond.com/manuscriptevidenceofthebiblepages/ Worth a read...

I don't get all these people hating on my completely valid religion, which is just as valid is any and has just as much scientific evidence too. The church of the flying spaghetti monster welcomes everyone!

who indeed

I'd say that that is a definitive maybe

*Takes off left shoe* *Puts left sock on right hand* *Puts left shoe on head* _"Lemon!"_

Pokemon emerald: where are you from, yes or no?

Orange juice!

if the jump to conclusion was an olympic sport, he'd be a millionaire by selling the STRAPS from the medals as scrap.

and in a follow-up continuation, truth _of beliefs_ is an emergent property of chemical reactions, or it's a property of an abstract structure which is emergent-ly represented by a series of chemical reactions in the brain. Chemical reactions are neither "true" nor "false", but beliefs can be "true" or "false" based on observation of other beliefs, and some measure of "truth" (something like, say, reality)

Well, to be fair, there are other kinds of Christians. Don't do fundamentalism and don't read the bible literally. That would be a great Start 😉

Christianity is better than Islam. Christianity improved art and architecture and helps with Philosophy. Religion and Christianity have a benefit and gave guidelines. Atheism sucks no matter how much you frame it. You can't disprove God no matter how much you try. All those Medieval Cathedrals were built with what exactly? Faith?

@@michelfingado202 but how? nobody knows whats an allegory these days xD

@@maejune2179 "You can't disprove God no matter how much you try...." actually, logically speaking he doesn't exist (technically). the best argument for an supernatural creator is the 'unactualized actualizer' argument. it is logically flawed as well as it does not define any religious god as well.

He also probably thinks that the crowd is laughing WITH him and not AT him.

@@denumelon841 I thought this for sure haha.

@@denumelon841 I'm sure that at the end there, he realized that he was being owned

@UShallKnow He answered all of his questions. Did you not pay attention?

@UShallKnow Everyone with a brain cares how malformed it is. The question is as pointless as asking if Superman is possible. It brings nothing useful to the table, specially when it cannot be proven or disproven. And the fact that it cannot be proven or disproven means that it's inevitable that the low IQ fools such as Eric begin circle jerking around it. Thus the answer to his stupid questions was to point out how stupid the questions are.

Richard Dawkins is a loser.

@@maejune2179 Dawkins believes in the scientific impossibility that everything came from nothing. "Of course that "nothing" had to be "something."" He says immediately after.

@@andyandy2498 no that’s a misrepresentation of “A universe from nothing”

@@andyandy2498 says you're God's done it by magic lol hypocrite. 😆

Oh so it’s going to get crazy half way? I keep on watching 🤩

Im suprised he knows which end to hold the microphone up to.

He's only holding it that way because that's how the film crew gave it to him. They could have given him a hotdog and he would be none the wiser (unless it was in his script)

Steve Marvins I'm suprised that he didn't just punch him in the face..

I'm sure he had to psych himself up for it.

Shawn Elliott j

Well, the knowledge that we do "know" is still ultimately all guesses. Incredibly well researched and consistent guesses, but, you know. It's a pointless thing to think about, but it's of course possible that we're in a simulation or something, and none of anything we know is actually "real," whatever that means. So if the next 1% we learn is that it's all a big trick being played on us by a magic grandpa, it's, you know, "possible." The real problem is that it's, as he says, a malformed question. It's completely hypothetical and so unless the hypothetical implication is being utilized in some other part of an argument that doesn't require it to be anything BUT hypothetical, it's answer is totally useless. It's pathetically obvious that Eric just wanted to get an atheist on camera saying that God might exist, that the universe isn't real, and that they don't really know anything, edit them into clips, and be done with it.

It's not a guess once it's been researched and tested and the results are consistent. At that point, it's knowledge. There might be a more-nuanced explanation waiting to be discovered in the future, but that doesn't render old knowledge incorrect, just obsolete.

Shawn Elliott so its already proven that God doesn't exist?

No. In fact, it's impossible to prove that God does or doesn't exist. You could search the entire universe and not find God, and it would still be possible to claim that God was simply hiding outside the universe. But also, if a powerful being presented itself to you and claimed to be God, you could never be sure it wasn't a lying demon instead, because humans lack the ability to distinguish between very powerful beings vs. _infinitely_ powerful beings. That's why belief in God has always been, and always will be, a matter of pure faith and nothing else.

Eric has a script that ends with “see atheist can’t even tell if reality is real for all they know they could be a brain in a vat “ and thunderf00t was trying to avoid feeding his script that’s why some of his questions seem to take a longer route then he should have

As an IT guy I agree with your assumption on true and false and there place in boolean logic. In reality however false should be the default position, at least in areas where it matters. Following your method the concept of god is true until proven wrong. The burden of proof is with those making a claim. Until not proven: false.

@@HaraldHofer you are absolutely right! but I was talking about things that are proven to be true using the scientific method to start with... even these should be questioned.

Right. As a programmer myself I can perfectly understand your analogy. Also fun fact: During the first 6 minutes or so Tim Minchin performed "Thank you god" in the backgroun (hard to understand) Here's an actual recoreded version: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bWsFcCCCxc4.html Though what actually came to my mind when reading your comment is a different Tim Minchin song called "The Fence" which is exactly about the fact that nothing is black and white but it often seems like we would like to have everything sorted out properly which unfortunately does not represent the real world. I can highly recommend The Fence (including the introduction): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VGErC6QQdoc.html

That is logically false, just because something is considered true doesn't make it true. We considering its true doesn't make it globally true

I’m sitting in the same position with my finger on the trigger.

@@areyoujelton WAIT!!!! Shoot me first!!!

He's Kent Hovind's son, he doesn't know how to think....

Black Ice *taps spongebob doll* cRiTiCaL tHiNkInG sKiLlS

His dad did 10 prison for tax evasion in Pensacola Florida. Today his dad has another property across the state line in repton Alabama and a child died drowning in one of the old gravel pit lakes there. They make you sign a release form when you arrive & the family of the child cannot sue him for anything

This is most people's understanding of anything outside of their field. They dont even realize they dont undertand. If 100% of the world were atheist RIGHT NOW, that wouldnt change people like him. The answer is that school doesnt teach you to think. It teaches you to follow, THEN only to think, and only then when its in your field, and not in any unorthodox way. The answer is to make logic and thinking less "stuffy" use plain english. Be willing to explain concepts like physical laws. The way to beat religion is to make it hard to function without acting rationally instead of overvaluing certain (detrimental) personal freedoms above all else.

@@noneshere bro, sorry but you is a magical research God. Why do you know that

I Need Healing yes, just yes

I will do what i must.

"do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda Yoda was a Sith Lord

thank you for making sense my friend

@Alex G I hmmm...

Must be a hovind thing

@Alex G I Yeah I thought his answer was worded kind of weird. But Thunderf00t is NOT being a dick. He is PHd level scientist smart. He can answer a question like a dick because HE knows a shitload more about the subject that most people do. He spent many years studying and does not have time for idiots. That is all.

@@Jw-un8oh no, you're being a fanboy. He was asking if it were possible. The simple answer is yes. Hes dodging the question and being a dick. All he is asking is their a possibility if God exists. Most intellectuals would answer yes

Kill me

Marcusz c for me: over 9000

Marcusz c more than the friday music video

fysicaly, too high. mentaly about 100%.

Marcusz c 1% of infinity

A humorous fact.

The religious believers or non?

I don’t know if that analogy works. Do pigeons throw shit? If they poop on the board, it’s probably only because you’re insane and trapped a bunch of pigeons and tried to make them play chess. They’d probably rather fly away unless you have some bread to feed them.

Except brick wall is actually useful, at least you can lean against it.

+Dmitriy King I lol'd

+Dmitriy King Eric Hovind makes me want to kill my self. The fact that we live in a meaningless universe makes me want to kill my self.

+( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) in all honesty, an autistic child shared this video with me. He has speech problems, but he writes better than some university professors I have (un)fortunately worked with. Talking to this man is like talking to a special singing electronic fish that was popular in the 90's.

+shishido7 what the hell kind of thing that fishie is

I made it to 20 minutes, it doesn't get any easier..

I'm 5 minutes in and this guy has earned my ire

I only made it 7 minutes.

How? I got to about 3 minutes in and then couldn't take any more of it.

I made it the whole video.

MrBanarium Yeah

Because Eric keeps trying to set up his "dominoes" to trap Thunderf00t. He's not listening, just trying to get to the AHA! moment. Spoiler alert: It's a Bullshit Aha! moment, BTW

that's the point to show how retarded these people are and how dependent on you falling into a trap question they seem its like yu gi oh LOL

The first time I watched it, it was hard to follow, and I also expressed the same opinion you made, however after watching it again later after hours and hours of familiarity of the stupid argument trying to be presented by the theist, through other sources, I now can see the debate much clearer and I can see exactly what is going on.. thunderfoot isn't biting the rediculous bait trap eric is trying to set..

then u need to follow closer, it makes absolute sense, but the reporter guy consistently avoids to answer and instead is bringing up shit that was said before

How does he know that? Because God gave us all the knowledge we have. And how does he know that? Because of the knowledge that God gave him. The audacity to call someone else's argument cyclical... He believes God exist because he has the idea of God in his mind. That's it at the end of the day it would seem. And he thinks it's perfectly fine to have the same reasoning ability about this as his baby daughter.

He doesn't make any bones about it. He knows, matter of factly that God is real. Thinking would imply that he is considering other options by contrast. To make a claim and not back it up with proof verifiable and demonstrable, that is where his reality for God fails to prove his premise.

I would not try to understand him.

Yes exactly according to himself and his presup-apologetic schtick/script.

I can't watch this.

if he goes into philosophy he can only try to stay sane (may his god bless him with stupidity its the only way he will survive )

kenneth mabie What has the perception that you can't know anything ever brought? Can you heal the invalids with that? Can you build houses for the homeless? Can you warm up the ones who are cold? Can you feed the hungry? No. But looking at what we DO see and drawing conclusions: That's what enables us to do ALL these things.

***** You're obviously replying to the wrong person.

***** First....I'm not a religious person....yet let me address your statement here. "Believers, on the other hand, can't even fathom a universe without a creator." Atheist live in the same world of FEAR as believers do. Why?....because then EVERYTHING they know...would be wrong...and would mean they need to live within a set a parameters that doesn't allow them to justify their lifestyles/sins in the group of, EVERYTHING is ok. Everyone justifies their wrong doing....so they continue doing it. Most atheist...don't want to stop living the lives they live, an afterlife and the existence of God would change things. Remember...ATHEISTS..."KNOW" there is no God. Where believers "KNOW" there is. I believe..."knowing" something which is damn near unknowable without some grand demonstration. EVEN IF...there were a God...and "showed himself to the world"....WITHOUT A DOUBT...people would still come up with reason why its NOT true...it wasn't God, was the government, aliens, etc.

kenneth mabie Congrats. Most Atheist...I have spoken with say the KNOW. I agree, the answer is UNKNOWABLE. This conversation digressed rapidly due to your superiority complex and need to put down someone else's comments and/or intelligence to make you feel better about yourself, I'm assuming of course. No matter what statement you come up with in a desperate attempt to be clever and/or witty, please don't. If my above statement wasn't true, I doubt you would have acted like the complete ass you just demonstrated being. Good day.

***** Nobody likes being prejudged on their behavior...so broadly. Which is what I responded to in the comment concerning Theists being "scared" for their NOT to be a God. Obviously...this isn't a TRUE statement of ALL theists. As my statement isn't true of ALL Theists OR Atheists. Yet....it is TRUE. Otherwise...why hold on so desperately to PROVE someone who thinks opposite you wrong? Theists aren't hurting me. Atheists aren't hurting me. Why the hostility then? Why not live and let live? Because humoring the possibility is much too scary to admit. If THEISTS believe in God and it helps them go through life....why would I want to make them doubt what gives them some measure of peace? This is the reason I choose not to talk about religion with people anymore. Who I am...to take away someone's peace of mind? Why would I want to? I don't... I truly hope...Atheists and Theists...both get what they are looking for and live happily ever after. :)

The bologna sandwich in my trash is more knowledgeable than hovind. Same with bruggencate. Presupp apologetics are a joke. They know they can't prove their beliefs so they just assert a bunch of shit. It's laughable. It's admitting defeat.

LazerDog Laz I’m hoping this is a joke?

shannon anderson I would start with the alphabet.

+Trans Feminist Autism You say that you're a deist. I have to wonder if you really are a deist or if you're just an atheist who hasn't come to terms yet with being an atheist (very common for deists). I have a question for you that might help you answer that for yourself if you're in doubt (I don't actually want an answer, I just want to help you put some things into perspective for yourself if you are interested in it). My question is as follows: Is god needed to explain anything we already know? And if he is, is he a necessary step in the explanation? This is what convinced me that I'm an atheist. The realization that at best god is just an undefined variable. Basically, the realization that I only believed in the god of the gaps, not a defined god. From there it just snowballed into full atheism with god being a mathematically insignificant possibility.

Couldn't agree more, at first I was thinking thunderfoot was dodging questions but 10 minutes in my brain finally caught up

I agree with you. Its my 4th too, but idk how much weight i put into a single individual "thing" called god rather then a collection of everything that i assume is god. Still have a hard time putting my view of it out, and I'm ok with that. Also ok being called dumb because i cant give a good reason why i feel this way.

+Trans Feminist Autism Thunderf00t is trying to show Hovind that the 'fourth assumption' is not necessary in order to form predictive models. If we merely accept the three assumptions, we can investigate aspects of our universe by measurable, observable means. With the fourth assumption, there is no way we can investigate it by any observable method. The fourth assumption is not 'testable' at all, or rather, Thunderf00t dubs it a 'vestigial appendage' because we can demonstrate that making a fourth assumption in no way produces any meaningful results. These 'meaningful results' manifest themsleves in the technologically and medically advance civilization we live in - all of which was possible through an abandonment of the 'fourth assumption' because it has no merit.

+Keith Trimm Technically there is a god if you assume that god was the process that created the universe. So if its 2 cosmic membranes that collided and produced an innumerable number of universes then those membranes are "god" by that definition. I prefer to just say we don't know, and I don't actively believe in anything I don't know and can't know, therefore I don't believe in god. I can know based on modern scientific understanding that the gods of this world as defined by the various religions are all myth. If there were gods that were "omnipotent" or "omniscient" then we should have holy scriptures that reveal this fact. Unfortunately, for the theists we don't. Every single one is filled with absurd inaccuracies which made sense to the writers 2,000-3,000 years ago, but are irrelevant today. So for all practical purposes atheism is the only thing that really makes sense. Even if there is some deistic type god, its fairly clear there is no afterlife. Without evidence of an afterlife, it makes sense to live this one as the only one you will ever have. But that's alright. The universe got along just fine for 13.82 billion years without me and I never even noticed it and it will continue to do so until its light is extinguished. And whatever it was that created our universe will probably do so again.

Trust me, watch till the end. It gets way more tolerable.

His questions are on a level "are both of your dads gay?" Build on assumption with no right answers

Shnob is green true or false?

Tristan Taylor Assume we know how much knowledge there is in the universe. Now imagine we know 1% of it. Wtf is this

Yeah! Fuckin' hypotheticals. Even with his argument, how would he know whether or not his belief or perception of god is true or false?

Have at least a thumb

It was stressful I'll say!

i am currently at 30 minutes and half of my brain cells have jumped off a cliff

Yeah... I checked and my friend died way earlier than that.

I'm certainly dumber from this experience. I can feel it.

Because it causes positive responses. The more or bigger the positive result the more 'good' it serves.

@@AngelEmfrbl That's what I told them, but they just said, "how do you know _your_ feelings of "good" are good without an outside source (God) to define what "good" is? So frustrating...

@@Trainfan1055Janathan if a lion without knowing a word of biblical text can be proven to have morals in any way, shape or form, everything falls apart. But they do even if they sometimes are questionable.

go straight up moral nihilism lol

How can you really know, what "good" is, without getting it definded by an omnipresent being who tortures his creation for all eternity for not believing in him? - He loves you, you know

“We haven’t gotten to that yet” then, “does god exist yes or no”

Guys, we haven’t gotten to that yet

Most people answer yes or no. If you use big words I will get confused please just say yes or no.

there were at 487 separate times when i would have fed him his own intestines!

I believe in GOD

I applaud you thunderfoot. I would've gone to jail

Hey, I hope for yourself, That you maybe do believe in a God of some kind at very least. I had an experience with Jesus Christ that changed me, My heart, The way I acted.. It's insane, And thy holy spirit lives inside of me. I know he's real, And I can't say I can prove it to you. but I hope you take what I wrote as honesty and search for Jesus Christ. I need him you need him everybody needs a savior God bless you

Conner Langford Not to poop on your faith, I think it can have positive benefits for people (regardless on my own belief in religious doctrine, thats side point). What thunderfoot was doing was trying to prove to the creationist that his counter arguements weren't countering anything. Hence why he said about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. TF says FSM was the source of truth in the universe, but it doesn't further the arguement because he can't prove it. and that wasn't helpful to having a civil arguement, which is what they both were looking for. And the creationist couldn't realise he was bringing a bad name to his own cause. Not to mention he was using words he didn't understand. Not that i'm insulting him, he could've just asked what they meant instead of getting it wrong in silly ways (look back to where TF puts both of his hand on his head, it happens several times and even the crowd around them starts laughing at the creationist) Still. One love, connor. Anything that brings understanding in the chaos is good, just don't let the word of man, written or not, dictate the actions of a god who can transcend that. God is good, people are confusing.

OMFG! Me too. I've stopped that shit. This Hovind dude is hopeless.

Going on my absolutely bare-bones understanding of neuroscience and how different emotional states affect neuroplasticity and neuron-transmission capacity, and with the most pig-sty dirty head-math, I think you burned about 11-14 months worth of neural activity in the span of 57 minutes banging your head against an utter r3t@rd who uses all the audio-visual recording technology available in 2012 to claim all such knowledge and scientific-technological advancement is available because some magic sky-daddy wished it so. It was very valuable in confirming my belief and hope me and you would get into some actually interesting debates, but honestly, again - I would've preferred you putting all that brain-capacity into advancing medical and chemical fields even further. Love, K. Kirilov

It's funny how stupid that troglodyte is whilst being well versed in insidious manipulation tactics.

Honestly, I can’t blame Eric too much. When you’re a guy who grew up in a household with Kent from infancy to adulthood, your brain has to be a little messed up.