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Eric Valentine's Electric Guitars - Surf Guitar 

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In the third and final part of our series from Eric Valentine on guitar recording, see how the respected producer/engineer crafts a shimmering surf guitar sound in the vein of Smash Mouth or Third Eye Blind. You can look forward to the use of three amps, a real echo chamber and judicial use of modulation effects.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
00:29 - Setup In The Live Room
02:22 - Amplifiers
08:16 - Reverb Chamber
10:04 - Sound Of The Microphones
15:19 - Unfairchild Compressor
17:48 - Mixing & EQ
20:09 - Outro
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@paultrombetta
@paultrombetta 3 года назад
In 1990 Eric recorded our demo (Murder Bay) in his bedroom when he was 19 I think. 2" tape and ADAT. He was the same alien genius then as well. Atlantic wanted to use his demo's instead of re-recording the album he was so good. Blessed to have crossed paths
@AJL200
@AJL200 7 лет назад
I love how he goes full 'guitar face' whilst demo'ing the sounds
@GriffinJenningsMusic
@GriffinJenningsMusic 4 года назад
This dude just oozes musicality
@the-LeoKnightus
@the-LeoKnightus 6 лет назад
You know you've made it when you have a 'reverb room" instead of plugin.
@NightPaddle
@NightPaddle 4 года назад
At home I am thinking about just using my bathroom. It won't be perfect, but definitively worth a try.
@juno980
@juno980 4 года назад
@@NightPaddle It'll work. Just a little bit of room reverb can add a lot to a recording, depending on how much you blend it in. If you can do it, stairways are SUUUPER reverby. Helped some guy at my old school record some solo acoustic stuff in our highschool staircase. Massive sound. (Maybe just nicely ask a local school or public building if you can come in there for a couple hours on a closed day and record.)
@michaelcandido2824
@michaelcandido2824 3 года назад
@@juno980 have speakers your bathroom and have the sound with reverb plugin or hardware and have the mic's placed at the reflections of the wall and the effect will sound longer then if just using the bathroom verb.
@bowenowen5818
@bowenowen5818 3 года назад
pro trick : you can watch movies at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching a lot of movies these days.
@rhettsamir5180
@rhettsamir5180 3 года назад
@Bowen Owen definitely, I have been watching on Flixzone for since november myself :)
@emiljohnDR
@emiljohnDR 7 лет назад
Would love an Eric Valentine's drums series!
@bluenitriletouch2842
@bluenitriletouch2842 2 года назад
The fact that Third Eye Blind’s first album sounds like it was made yesterday is a testament to this man’s genius.
@johnbowman3630
@johnbowman3630 28 дней назад
Not sure what that is supposed to mean... 'modern' records generally sound like shit. You need to listen to more records from the '60s through the '90s man, the great ones are all sonically superior to the garbage being produced today.
@bluenitriletouch2842
@bluenitriletouch2842 28 дней назад
@@johnbowman3630 I'm sorry you feel that way
@johnbowman3630
@johnbowman3630 27 дней назад
@@bluenitriletouch2842 Lol don't be sorry for me bro, your ears and soul are the ones who are missing out if you can't appreciate the great sonics of the records from the '70s thru the '90s (even early '00s) This largely has to do with the budgets they had back in those days to make the greatest possible record, which are virtually non-existent now. Labels today wouldn't pay the catering budget from 1995 to make an entire record these days. Peace!
@bluenitriletouch2842
@bluenitriletouch2842 27 дней назад
@@johnbowman3630 Never said I didn't, but go ahead
@johnbowman3630
@johnbowman3630 27 дней назад
@@bluenitriletouch2842 Fair enough, let's take a step back here. What did you mean when you said 'sounds like it was made yesterday'? Forgive me if I made assumptions.
@KarlMiller-DjKarl
@KarlMiller-DjKarl 7 лет назад
I actually love that shimmering surf guitar sound… ☮🔥
@adamgorman
@adamgorman 7 лет назад
Great video, the tone he's getting is incredible! Check out the studio ghost in the background at 15:30 ;)
@thromboid
@thromboid 7 лет назад
He even uses the terms "tremolo" and "vibrato" correctly. :)
@LowdownBoy
@LowdownBoy 3 года назад
His job is to know these things
@mystdeisanto9647
@mystdeisanto9647 3 года назад
Man, he even uses terms capacitor, transisor, dc threshold etc in tremendous way that we're noob could understand what he said.
@EDEN-LIMINAL
@EDEN-LIMINAL Год назад
Haha, yes, rare thing indeed.
@godofspacetime333
@godofspacetime333 Год назад
BUT, he uses “phase” and “polarity” interchangeably.
@nickafflitto7519
@nickafflitto7519 7 лет назад
Dude is such a brilliant musician and engineer.
@rorykhanmohon
@rorykhanmohon 7 лет назад
This was an invaluable lesson for me. Thanks SOS and Eric Valentine!
@necrodogs
@necrodogs 5 лет назад
Finally, a video on surf guitar. I'm inspired to go downstairs and record my jaguar now. Microphones out in the room. Thank you so much for this ❤️
@future4you
@future4you 7 лет назад
I love his approach to capturing the natural amp tone and room mics are so cool.
@ThoseSleepless
@ThoseSleepless 7 лет назад
dang... this sound is absolutely incredible. I wish there was a bit more detail on dealing with the ground loop and what exact utility gear he's using with the transformers. I'm gonna have to try a very budgeted version of this idea soon. Also that cable!
@Rick-pi9zn
@Rick-pi9zn 4 года назад
"late night wakeups" -hilarious.
@frankwyatt1982
@frankwyatt1982 4 года назад
great stuff. thank you all who put this together.....
@StandbyCymbalist
@StandbyCymbalist 4 года назад
well, that was legit. Thanks for openly sharing this dark art!
@Martin-kn6vc
@Martin-kn6vc 7 лет назад
I've really enjoyed this series. I think I may have said it in a previous video of this series, but Eric seems like such a chill guy. I'd love to talk recording with the guy.
@MrUltraworld
@MrUltraworld 7 лет назад
I can't believe the difference the vari cap cable makes. He gets great guitar tones.
@07line
@07line 5 лет назад
What a room you got there. Love watching this.
@EDEN-LIMINAL
@EDEN-LIMINAL 2 года назад
Most impressive, I always get new ideas from listening to Eric's albums and words.
@lukebowman9022
@lukebowman9022 8 месяцев назад
Eric is the man. I just love watching him work and seeing the way he thinks.
@ShredShed
@ShredShed 4 года назад
Man, I bet it is blast tracking a record with Eric.
@TheZooropaBaby
@TheZooropaBaby 7 лет назад
Lack of Shrek in this video disturbed me
@giordanopagotto7940
@giordanopagotto7940 7 лет назад
...is love....is life
@jordanwilliamson2683
@jordanwilliamson2683 2 дня назад
😂😂😂
@caspermaster-com
@caspermaster-com 7 лет назад
Holy shit thats an deep sound
@donkeyfacekilla1
@donkeyfacekilla1 7 лет назад
Excellent stuff, what a great sound!
@Jasonweckard
@Jasonweckard 7 лет назад
I've really enjoyed these videos.
@augustleo7434
@augustleo7434 4 года назад
Great series - really inspirational and informative.
@Simto
@Simto 7 лет назад
These videos are awesome! Very informative.
@Salantsoundstudios
@Salantsoundstudios 7 лет назад
Great job guys, killer killer tones!
@cuerdasoxidas
@cuerdasoxidas 7 лет назад
Amazing video. Eric is a guru of sound.
@spottedsaint957
@spottedsaint957 4 года назад
I love that sound. I wish I had the same setup!
@jahmark9336
@jahmark9336 6 лет назад
Thanks man Peace and love from Bristol, England
@phasmoid666
@phasmoid666 4 года назад
Love the series
@hansomolde
@hansomolde 4 года назад
Beautiful sound!
@Achase4u
@Achase4u 5 лет назад
Epic surf sound.
@Gretschization
@Gretschization 7 лет назад
That's some great guitar tones
@copasetic216
@copasetic216 5 лет назад
That sounds beautiful
@PhilHeesen
@PhilHeesen 7 лет назад
GREAT sound!
@princetonaudio
@princetonaudio 7 лет назад
Fantastic!
@ChuckSilva
@ChuckSilva 7 лет назад
Crazzzzzzzy co0! Thank you so much! ❤
@mattvdh
@mattvdh 7 лет назад
sounds great!
@mikewolfe9458
@mikewolfe9458 9 месяцев назад
This kicks ass. I’d love to see you guys go visit him at his new place he’s building and do another series of videos!
@Jay0neDE
@Jay0neDE 7 лет назад
amazing video. just like the other ones with Eric.
@jamesdoctor8079
@jamesdoctor8079 2 года назад
This guy is on a completely different level
@kiopl2003
@kiopl2003 7 лет назад
that was a great video! thanls
@vikkitripp6228
@vikkitripp6228 3 года назад
Awesome 👏
@davidasher22
@davidasher22 4 года назад
That’s an intense sound!
@bak1386
@bak1386 3 года назад
Man, I would be in heaven if I had access to this gear
@jsdhesmith2011
@jsdhesmith2011 6 лет назад
Very informative...subbed
@IsaacJDean
@IsaacJDean 6 лет назад
I could listen to that tone alllll day. What an incredible sound!. I expected an abrasive sound but it was utterly luscious. Now replace those amps with Model Ts, Matamps and vintage Oranges and create a crushing doom/drone sound a la Sunn O))), Boris, etc.
@seanryan3180
@seanryan3180 7 лет назад
I love to hear this insight and letting air mix the sound. Sound IS air moving so let it move I say.
@verdrehtewelten
@verdrehtewelten 4 года назад
wow, awesome
@craigsanderson4330
@craigsanderson4330 4 года назад
so good
@AndrewBeveridge461
@AndrewBeveridge461 6 лет назад
To flip the phase on that Magnatone, first thing I would have tried is just turning it backwards. Might not be a great solution, but it takes two seconds and might do the trick. Also he'd get less shocks if he wore shoes.
@twangking55
@twangking55 3 года назад
Such a genius.
@rec6025
@rec6025 3 года назад
Cool sound
@megazoned3973
@megazoned3973 3 года назад
Say what you will about smash mouth- “walking on the sun’s” guitar tone is incredible.
@billeywinnbustos3724
@billeywinnbustos3724 4 года назад
Very cool
@Mr69homefry
@Mr69homefry 7 лет назад
Holy WoW!
@aldobrezenti
@aldobrezenti 7 лет назад
Great video - as always!
@chromeghostband
@chromeghostband 7 лет назад
this guy is awesome
@RjBenjamin353
@RjBenjamin353 7 лет назад
Overkill!!!
@fsj9441
@fsj9441 7 лет назад
Ladies and gentlemen: the sharpest tool i the shed!
@DARKSIDEOFURANUS
@DARKSIDEOFURANUS 7 лет назад
Funking groovy
@storystoredave
@storystoredave 7 лет назад
yeh dude!
@StamatisStabos
@StamatisStabos 7 лет назад
nice video surf rider from solid fx its a good reverb pedal
@melissaraul
@melissaraul 7 лет назад
Eric the human guitar amp!
@gastonjabaly
@gastonjabaly 6 лет назад
I would like more info on that reverb chamber material dimentions etc
@austinmoser5056
@austinmoser5056 7 лет назад
Cough *Smash Mouth* Cough
@aurozappa305
@aurozappa305 7 лет назад
I wonder if they recorded the Dj turn tables there .... ohhhhhh can you hear the harmonics .
@DiamondLifer
@DiamondLifer 5 лет назад
When he runs all mics together it sound like The Afterneath from EQD
@phillipemery572
@phillipemery572 2 года назад
It feels like Eric has been around forever, and yet he looks like he's 30.
@HueyRocks23
@HueyRocks23 Год назад
"You'll never know how much I really love yooooooooou..."
@norwegiansniper9713
@norwegiansniper9713 5 лет назад
I’ve watched a lot of videos with valentine and he never wears socks. Does he go into the studio and take them off?
@michaelcraig9449
@michaelcraig9449 6 лет назад
Can you also show us the best way to set up amp settings if all you got is a silver face Fender Twin and a Stratocaster?
@hickorymccay2994
@hickorymccay2994 4 года назад
It really depends on what you want to go for.
@GreenGrooves
@GreenGrooves 7 лет назад
The Guitar is going from DI to AMP and DAW but how is it set up that the DAW output also gets into the Amps without switching cables ?
@hhanslie
@hhanslie 7 лет назад
Many outputs that can be routed around the studio
@nickbrumme3489
@nickbrumme3489 7 лет назад
Green Grooves He talks a little more about it in the Slash guitars video- assuming he's doing the same thing here, the DI signal actually hitting pro tools before being sent to the amp at all
@joeschlicht
@joeschlicht 2 года назад
As soon as I heard the first strum of that reverb chamber my draw dropped. Actually I said an expletive that I won't repeat here.
@SeemoreDunkan
@SeemoreDunkan 7 лет назад
Great video! but I'm not 100% sure where exactly was the compressor in the sound chain
@Acehan
@Acehan 7 лет назад
Between the mics and the speakers!
@PaulvanderMeijs
@PaulvanderMeijs 7 лет назад
I believe that is a Mosrite Combo; not the Californian.
@brandonio_granger
@brandonio_granger 7 лет назад
Paul van der Meijs You're totally right It's definitely a Combo ! A Californian is a dobro style guitar.
@leoharper1492
@leoharper1492 7 лет назад
What is the song in the first 30 seconds of the video? That guitar tone is so nasty, its great.
@tanveerhasan2382
@tanveerhasan2382 3 года назад
Did you ever find out?
@untro7287
@untro7287 6 лет назад
haha i love this guy
@fernandoherrerabastidas
@fernandoherrerabastidas 4 года назад
12:58 “you’ll never know how much I really love youuu, you’ll never know how much I really caaare”
@Whiffofficial
@Whiffofficial 4 года назад
Listen, do you want to know a secret?
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodtr3590
Smash Mouth.... Lel But tbh I *have* always loved the guitar sound on God of Wine. That's what really makes that track IMO. ..and I'm a big fan of recording amp arrays like that. Spent many many hours experimenting with that setup.
@Auxend
@Auxend 7 лет назад
what DI was he using? Looks like a rack unit?
@Auxend
@Auxend 7 лет назад
had some help - this looks like the one - reverb.com/item/5768139-undertone-audio-mpdi-4-class-a-4-channel-mic-preamp-and-di
@Auxend
@Auxend 7 лет назад
www.undertoneaudio.com/products/mpdi-4-rack-unit
@andreshurtado7649
@andreshurtado7649 7 лет назад
nice what's the first song at 0:00 ?
@soundonsound
@soundonsound 7 лет назад
Long Goodbye by Bro: soundslikebro.bandcamp.com/
@andreshurtado7649
@andreshurtado7649 7 лет назад
Thanks guys really awezome
@Abrahamhamham
@Abrahamhamham 4 года назад
13:54 "dark again..."
@michaelcraig9449
@michaelcraig9449 6 лет назад
What is a re-amp, and all this stuff you are discussing, out of phase, phase reverse, in phase, etc..I want to know how to set this up correctly to play some amps together, dont want to get shocked, or mess anything up, or get a shitty sound, of course.. Can you go into this more, the basics, for those that never did this set up yet?
@alexandercleary6335
@alexandercleary6335 4 года назад
This is kind of intended as a more advanced video. I know this was a while ago but I'd Google those terms around. But honestly to, this technique is kind of a million dollar studio technique where I bet it would be hard to get it to sound anywhere as good at home.
@Lowerhaightstreet
@Lowerhaightstreet 6 лет назад
17:21 rented from Norman's rare guitars
@davidbuzzin426
@davidbuzzin426 5 лет назад
👍😉🇺🇸
@jeradatherton
@jeradatherton 4 года назад
😮
@chenguefer156
@chenguefer156 7 лет назад
Dear Eric, great video, many thanks for it. But there is something missing in your setup, something essential for that "surf guitar sound": echo tape delay . Watkins Copycat, Echoplex, Binson Echorec, Roland Space Echo, etc.. Complete your setup with a tape delay and then make another video please. All the best for you!.
@alexbooyse9053
@alexbooyse9053 6 лет назад
Ground vs earth?
@wreckoningday
@wreckoningday 6 лет назад
They should have added some of his Mic in for the guitar it sounds so squashed and the definitions gone. At 14:06 you hear it
@jeroenfigee
@jeroenfigee 7 лет назад
12:00..... Robin Guthrie [Cocteau Twins] is in the house ! :-)
@tanveerhasan2382
@tanveerhasan2382 3 года назад
Do you know the song?
@jeroenfigee
@jeroenfigee 3 года назад
@@tanveerhasan2382 yesss... CocteauTwins; 'PinkOrangeRed' > ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UmbszBl6cKs.html :-)
@tanveerhasan2382
@tanveerhasan2382 3 года назад
@@jeroenfigee beautiful, thanks
@KittenFlower66
@KittenFlower66 7 лет назад
Be carful with my goddam guitar @ 17:20
@SuperMcgenius
@SuperMcgenius 5 лет назад
For my ear I would hit the eq 50% less, Less refined, but more soul. Like what you are doing.. Nice you understand also what cables do or do not do. I find it hard to convince clients sometimes to upgrade
@sweetfoampunishment3286
@sweetfoampunishment3286 Год назад
I get the point... This is so Humm-Free, you can call it Bogart!
@makarimvitro3107
@makarimvitro3107 Месяц назад
Enjing abi ameng mang kaditu
@europa
@europa 3 года назад
The EUROPA LUNA GHOSTS
@Marius-vw9hp
@Marius-vw9hp 7 лет назад
So when is he going to paint the walls?
@242Savagery
@242Savagery 5 лет назад
Yeah it's a pretty ratty looking studio, I guess that's the vibe he's going for.
@copasetic216
@copasetic216 5 лет назад
They sound good unpainted though
@DiamondLifer
@DiamondLifer 5 лет назад
Correct. Painting will change the sound of the room.
@jacobsmith1877
@jacobsmith1877 4 года назад
Steve Albini's studio is unfinished too because he liked how it sounded at a certain point of construction
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