Ernie Ball: String Theory featuring Mick Mars 

I read an article that Mick may get surgery to be able to turn his head. He explained it as them chipping away the bone. He said it would eventually grow back, but it would give him some yrs. (idk how invasive it would be tho 😕). I’d love for him to be able to drive again, if only for a little while. But honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Mick roll out on stage in some bad-ass revised standing wheelchair in the future. ❤️

Right!!! Most underrated guitarists of all time...

Absolutely agree.

LOL! God? LOl!

He dosen't realise it either! You are wicked talent Mick!

Do you know why? Because he's not underrated he just sucks. Guitar players always grab a ton of attention in rock/ metal bands. They usually make solo albums to express things they can't in their band. But even if they don't, they are right up there with singers as being focal points of the band. Except with MC it wasn't like that. It was all about the other 3 guys. Because Mars had nothing going for him. Why do you think Nikki was always looking to replace him? I believe he approached Demartini and Lynch, among others because they could really play, not just use the same tired blues scales for every fucking "solo". And because they had "the look" that fit much better with the band. Why do you think Mars was always on the end of the line in band pics? Cause half of their success was the look of Nikki. Tommy and Vince. That's what the teenaged girls wanted not Mars. He was NEVER, NOT ONCE, included in any list of great guitar players of the 80s or any other time, as far as everything I've read in 30 years. If you like him that's fine. But let's not create a rock guitar hero from a guy who his own band wanted gone.

famouslastwords 2019 shut up

@@famouslastwords0791HR Shut up, bastard! Make better, then you can complain about one thing max in technique terms, about the rest, you can cry to yourself everyday just to satify your stunted ego.

famouslastwords 2019 the fuck you talkin about hahahha youre challenged

@@famouslastwords0791HR You are just a troll. You do know that Nikki has a big tattoo of Mick Mars in his leg, don't you? go eat shit.

Definitely not Vinces vocals, especially live lol

Primal Scream

Well at first I was also like that then the Vince Meals came and when I think Motley Crue I think of Burger King, McDonald’s or KFC

@@stepladder3257 fucking lol

Looks That Kill. First video I saw of them on MTV.

WASNT 71 WHEN VIDEO MADE, DIRK

Same he inspired me to pick up guitar again

Mick fucking mars🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽

so we finally know how old he is?

Micks chops have always had a lot of heart and soul in them.

Eric Rios I agree with you, to a point. Nikki Sixx wrote the tunes, lyrics and general direction of the music.

totally agree, his sound what turned my ears to the bands music. this guy is different, always an unexpected hook. pretty much made crue into what they are imo.

Totally. Never cared much for his solos. But as a metal riff master, and songwriter, hell yes. Up there with Iommi that way.

I agree. Always see myself playing air guitar to his songs in motley crue. His riffs are original and simple but cool and unique

As a former musician myself I’d like to say that every member was just as important.Being super successful like them is something where every single thing matters from the members involved, the creativity that comes from those 4 members being together and the right management. Mick and Sixx were definitely the more creative minds from what we know. Even if Vince never wrote one lyric he brought his voice, stage performance and looks which is huge, tommy brought amazing drumming ability yeah other drummers can easily play his stuff but those drummers wouldn’t have played the same memorable stuff. If it was just mick and Sixx I bet they definitely could have been successful but not on the level that the Crüe became. This is something a lot of people don’t think about or understand unless you are a musician yourself and many musicians make this mistake. Often when you have 4 members in a band everyone argues when creating music, that arguing creates tension and generally better music. When bands kick out members over creative differences they then get members that don’t put up a fight when creating mucus or they just use touring musicians. Well now that they always get their way when creating music the music tends to suffer and be too tame. This isn’t always the case but it happens a lot then the members realize that they need those members they fired because they help give the songs attitude and emotions. Some changes that seem relatively small can change a band completely.

Yeah, that was great!

best answer ever ;)

LOVE IT!

Man, he should have!

In the film he definetley gave off that vibe in their first jam together, he showed up guns drawn and they basically fired the other guitarist on spot (If that's all true).

XD

Why fucking repeat what every fucking one who watched it heard ya twat

I get where he's coming from. I mean look at what happend when John Corabi stepped in, and the album didn't do so well. Also because they wanted Vince back. But they didn't like the change, a lot of the fans found it too "heavy". Some fans can't stand change somehow and will always compare it to their old stuff. The album with John Corabi is one of my favorite albums if not my favorite. And I think if they would have brought the album out under a different band name the album would have done better.

Man don't let the Crue define your style. The stuff I heard on this video that I haven't heard before was awesome.

GOD?? LMFAO. NICK IS A NOBODY IN INDUSTRY

@@PostUp_Time Hmm, you'll have to bring that up with 400 people that liked my comment, and the millions of Crue Fans that he's influenced... let me know how it goes!

well he won't lose respect from fans BUT what he means is there will be Crue fans that don't like his solo Album, I wish he did or is working on one, we know now that he isn't in Crue anymore do to his Health so i hope he spends his time working on the Music.

The best

Because it is. Most 67 yr olds are not like their 24 yr old self.

thought he was about to play little wing💀

There is only one Mick Mars 😎

He is soooo good. His riffs and licks are mind blowing after all these years! Such a unique tone....he is definitely a badass.

Underrated? No. Once you make millions by playing a guitar, youre definitely NOT underrated.

fin2000 not enough ppl mention him tho just coz he got bank doesn’t mean he’s amazingly well talked about

Absolutely, hands down !!!

fin2000 Bro you can still be underrated no matter how much you make.

@@cxbunnyxc : no, he is underrated.. he should have billions.

@J PrOvost hes cooler than cool, hes a frigging blizzard of coolness

@WhoDarestheMAN gamer lol....actually, i like trump, but i like mars wwaaaayyyy better

ed mora everybody thinks he is great....

@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Hey we all have opinions but I don't think anyone wants to discuss politics here and now. I'm a trump supporter but I agree he has some cons.

@WhoDarestheMAN gamer you seem quite uneducated if you claim his tariffs are causing companies to go bankrupt, ford announced recently a new huge plant, thousands of jobs in the US because of it, i have more affordable healthcare now than i did 3 years ago, obamacare was too expensive for over half the country to afford, and what "systems" do we have that are the "worst on earth" that claim is so opinionated and stupid it's insane

it's hard to make a sound yours nowadays its almost all been done before. I always love when guitarists can be recognized by 2 seconds of a song and with Mick its like that

@@braedonmorrissey7548 Guitar appears to be on decline compared to guys I listened to in my youth, and still to this day Im 55, but still an angry 16 year old (dog years) in my head.

Another 14 year old who pretends the legend Michael Schenker don't exist.

@@braedonmorrissey7548 Like Michael Schenker, George Lynch, Jake E Lee and Vinnie Vincent. Good old days.

@@timorean320 listen to Polyphia. They are young and some of the most amazing guitarists I’ve heard. I do love Mick tho. Im just saying there are great young guitarists if you know where to look.

Kill bad. Batman.

Motley Crue was just at the right place at the right time at the height of metal being the biggest genre. But, lets be honest, he’s not that great nor is the crue. Hence, they died after the 80s when glam died.

Vinces' voice died.....

Yes, he's a hard rock Bronson Alcott for sure.

@@MechanixV no, people with music taste died.

and less Bruno mars?? XD

Crazie Bear correct....

Yes indeed

Yeah, and he needs to play with more gain. Ooof, what a shitty guitarist.

@@n1ghtmar3mach1n3 Awe the princess is melting. 😢

Your story brought tears to my eyes. Best wishes to your daughter and family.

Stunning story

Mick was one of the first guitarist to really welcome Guitar synthesizers.

Criminally underrated. One of my favourite players.

@@ladariusjohnson709 u obviously don't understand music

You are absolutely right.

WELL SAID!

Could not have said it better

I think he wasn`t joking when he said: "I auditioned them"...Since he already had played in a number of bands since the early 70`s...

No doubt.

Mick was the cruest of them all.

He is also older

It was Nikki's punk and glam rock influences and Mick's traditional 60's guitar hero influences (Beck, Page, Clapton, etc.) that made the Crue the Crue. I love Mick, but another man was needed to create that Crue sound and attitude. And when Mars says he auditioned "them," he wanted to see that they weren't some kind of joke band. There were so many skinny tie bands like the Knack in L.A. at the time. Mick hated that crap. Another thing that separated the Crue from the joke bands that followed the Crue like Poison, Cinderella, etc.,, were the lyrics. For every song like "Ten Seconds To Love" there was "Danger." For every tune like "Girls, Girls, Girls," there was "Primal Scream." Nikki's lyrics, unlike so many hair metal groups of the 80's, addressed serious subjects.

Hold up, ALBUM?!?!?!?!?!?

true story

Ah YES I thank - For as the modern phrasing goes - starting thos conversation-- Cause I couldn't agree with u more -- Per example - the 94 MOTLEY record better singer Loved it - Queensryke or Geoff's Mind-crime Act - have decided to loyally be a fan still of BOTH - So I think I'm suggesting If Your enough a a fan of an artist unless they go way off the rails -- I would always support them Cheers

Yip.. The only member of Crue everyone loves..

Lol yea nobody can say anything bad about him

It’s cool man the people know, Mars will always be legendary to me

WHY SHOULD HE GET MORE RECOGNITION? HE IS A NOBODY. 40 YEARS AND DONE NOTHING IN THE INDUSTRY.

@@PostUp_Time You don't last 40 years in the music industry, and sell tens of millions of albums in the process, by doing nothing, as you claim. But, please, continue gracing us with your wisdom, fool. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@@PostUp_Time you know nothing

Mick isn't a good guitarist and is why he will never be recognized like Michael Schenker.

@stefano_ terra fuck that piece of shit Kanye.

Really. Mick was spreading his wisdom on being a riff master and you had to bring the shmuck we try not to think about.

When I was first playing in bands, my mother told me the same thing. She said, "Make sure that they are good enough to play with you, as much as you want to be in their band. Don't waste your time on guys who aren't good." The funny thing, now that I think about it, was one of the songs they played for the audition was Looks That Kill.

Yep, and he drops the bomb with irony and wit so he doesn't sound like an asshole AT ALL! The man's got class!

Carrying an entire band for 40 years is the real reason his back is fucked up.

@@soundguyor I auditioned for a band way back in Germany, just for fun, but this was also the first cover we played as part of that audition.

Man came to this video expecting sht, this guy is a tone monster, that sound is massive

Too bad the government went apesh!t banning stem cell research for so many years. If they had allowed it from the start, we'd have super regenerative therapies for just about everything at this point.

@@DeathBringer769 dam christians always blocking science bcuz of a outdated book this is why corona is all over

'MEDBEDS'

​@@DeathBringer769 The US government banned new lines of embryonic stem cells, which are stem cells derived from fetuses, but they did not ban stem cell research. There are numerous other ways to harvest stem cells (bone marrow, fat, umbilical cord, etc.) that are still allowed and many types of treatment available today in the US based around those methods.

Wrong about Covid

TeamMontrealMetal it’s rare to see mick in an interview at all

Ok

There is nothing metal about fender lol

Its more of a rock guitar brand

You know because mick is a rock guitarist

Pussy

I can't appreciate a brand new guitar that has been relic'd to look road worn. I do however adore guitars that have seen years of abuse and still being played. Willie Nelson's guitar is in shambles but its still his favorite guitar.

@@omgvague i´ve had my guitar since 2017 and i love how old but strong it looks, every little scar it has, has his own story, it is nice to see this kind of things

@@omgvague my man mick's been playing that guitar since '96

@@salem6310 he bought it in 1987 and used it on the girls, girls, girls tour

sadly that Strat he's playing is a terrible relic job. I may be wrong, but I've never seen a real worn guitar with the finish gone in the middle, above the pickguard like that. Not saying he's a fake or anything but I've been a crue fan since before the US festival and I've seen their live show maybe 5 or 6 times over the years and Mick really doesn't normally touch the body anywhere near that spot? Plus most of his popular live stuff was done on an LP, and/or a Charvel fitted with a Floyd.

There is a video of them in 1994 recording the Corabi Album and Nick was the funniest of all of them.

That was great

Badasss asf hahaha

I couldn't agree more. Truly never seems to get enough credit for his mad skills and great sound.

I guess because Motley Crue were glam, Mick is never given enough credit. Same goes for Warren DeMartini of Ratt and George Lynch of Dokken

@@metalhammer5 That is unfortunate, despite some cringey artists, Glam had some genuine talent and great artists that came from that era. Same for nu metal or metalcore/post hardcore.

Kirk hammet hahahahha

I love Motley Crue, but from reading through comments and even forums, a lot of the focus is on Vince Neil being an average singer or Nikki Sixx being a standard bass player, not my opinion but Mick Mars is often overlooked because of this

That's because he's a true bluesman, not a shredder. All rock is based on blues and shredders are largely forgotten because they have no feel.

@@snowyrain5730 ..yes and no. "That's because he's a true bluesman, not a shredder. All rock is based on blues"....thank you captain obvious. "shredders are largely forgotten because they have no feel.".....van halen, randy rhoads, Gary Moore, Paul Gilbert, Jake E. Lee, .....the list goes on and on and on of phenomenal shredders who A) will never be forgotten, and B) play with tons of feel.

You are all right. Mick is a master riff maker though. Can’t take that away from him.

@@ronyeahright9536 Mick is only a riff maker, not a shredder and never were. I like Mick's riffs, but he never sounds like a musician.

@@V3ntilator well i said he was not a shredder, did i not? not sure what you mean by him never sounding like a musician. he's made some of the most memorable guitar riffs of his era; what more do you want to call him a "musician" ?

You give people too much credit. That, or you are imagining the world as only you see it, when in fact the internet is full of self-loathing assholes that feed off negativity... often young kids. I don't personally think Mick Mars is anything special technique wise, it's his song writing that's really outstanding and shines thru in his playing. But I'm not going to spend time and energy pasting that all over a youtube videos, because I have enough confidence in myself and my tastes that I don't need to belittle anyone based on my opinions.

Shithead kids who think rap is music

Motley Crue were/are posers

@@garycozart4598 Rap sucks dick. It's the new age version of hair rock and poser metal like motley crue

Mick is the only one in the band that doesn’t surround the Twitter page with bullshit.

@@V3ntilator not only is he making an album rn he has composed some of the most memorable riffs in rock history. I wanna know where the fantasy world you live in where that doesn't make him a musician is at

@@Deadly_Sounds He is in one of the most famous bands on the planet, and why do you think he is never mentioned among the best guitarists? Exactly...

@@V3ntilator dude, the guy writes killer solos too.

@@V3ntilatorHate to break it to you but riffs are music

Watch The Dirt on netflix its awesome

I believe he's 68.

@Red pilled I heard Nikki Sixx say in an interview that he was 7 years older than him. Nikki was born in 58. You do the math.

He was the only member of the band that had any real talent except for Nikki's song writing.

John Garnhum What do you mean? Tommy Lee is one of the grooviest drummers out there, extremely underrated. Now, If we’re talking about Vince... He just used to attract a lot of ladies, his voice is just awful. But that’s just me.

He is so underrated. I’ve been playing for 20 years and mick Mars has always been one of my favorites.

Definitely

How’s he under rated He’s in one of the biggest bands

No It I just feel like he deserves more reverence than he gets.

@@ItsdaFittySimp in the guitar community

this

How did he reinvent music?

@@jeremyrafuse5330 80s hair metal riffing and soloing style

@@r4v3nner you mean EVH?

@@jeremyrafuse5330 nope, mick mars was inspired by Van Halen (I think so, not sure) but he made a significant impact in hair metal

What did Ozzy do?

Ozzy did a normal show, Motley Crue did an awesome show and it was loud and full of energy. Nothing wrong with an Ozzy show for sure.. It was a compliment to the Motley Crue Show.

Ozzy admitted that following Crüe every night was a difficult task. Said they always put on an amazing show and left the audience in awe.

I dont play guitar. I only came here to hear him talk. Seems like such an awesome dude.

Jeff N Amen

Honestly he's the only thing I really like about Motley Crue. His playing is infectious

He was always just overshadowed by all them damn band shenanigans

Mr Ed that put a smile on my face as soon as he said that. It’s so cool that he’s still so passionate

@@ian5420 it is peeps need passion!,Its awesome to see when artist keep going n just never stop.like 90 year old Toots Theilmans!overloaded with passion,can make ya cry with a single note bend of his Chromatic Harmonica I Saw Ennio Morricone in 2015 and 2019 when he was 86, and then 90.it really came crashing down when I was like wow.im 29.this guys been married over 60 years and has made music for over 60 years.like shit some people dont live that long.legit love and passion will keep ya going!!so yes I agree😂😂

Mr Ed he should have set his down 20yrs age. He’s not doing anything new or different. Same creepy fuck.

@Peter C wow!!clearly you're not a good person at all!cant see i am using slang?duh fuck?everyone have to talk in perfect grammar for your bitchass?ya don squigle ass mo frickle

@Peter C lmao!!ooooook so according to your logic,anybody who uses slang speaks idiot??

@Nacho Ramos Mars fore seen it during the making of the Girls,Girls,Girls video. ...

...from outer space.

@jim moreisin I really want to like your comment but it will ruin it....

Agreed...I was never a HUGE Motley Crue fan, but I always respected Mars' playing and his tone. He's always sadly been very underrated. When I first heard Kickstart, I HAD to learn how to play it, and how to get that enormous tone

Nikki Sixx stated that the first two albums were built around Mick's guitar tone.

yup hes in the same category as beck and his idols! i just hope he know that, micks hard on himself but all guitar players are, were never good enough for ourselves

Hell yeah! I love how all his influences fused together to help him create his style. One of my favorite guitarist of all time. Excellent song writer.

Mattie P The first time I saw him, he didn’t talk, he seemed like a Heavy Metal Demon . He looked scary as Hell. The Heaviest Riffs, .

He kind of the quiet type... He's like the George Harrison of metal...

Speaks with his guitar.

@@shanefitz9648 George Harrison wrote his own music and sang. Lmao

@@mattiep6692 Yeah Mick don't sing but he wrote a lot of Motley's early shit Nikki wrote the lyrics to...

Yup but it is especially important with touring musicians.

John 5 is an insane player who can play anything from rock to bluegrass but you can never replace the genius of Mick

I've been watching the dirt everyday for the last week!!

In my eyes, it was a perfect movie. Not as critically appealing as bohemian rhapsody but slightly more accurate. Either way it was good enough for me to smoke a j and watch.

You guy's do realize The Dirt is a PG version of MC back then? They maybe included 25% of their craziness. Lol

@@jojox9791 that's why I bought the book to see

Only thing that sucked was the way they made Mick looked pissed off all the time. Not even close to how he really is. Don't know him personally, just things I've seen on yt.

Shaun Matthews i always said his playing was overlooked by nikki and vince. mick is my favorite player, i names my strat 1313 after him

That true, I've never heard of him

Mick and C.C. DeVille. Were and probably still are two of the most underrated guitarists from their time. Even Nuno Bettencourt was when he was with Extreme. These lead singers get all the attention and steal away the respect and recognition these guitar players deserve. I'm really not a fan of the big hair metal bands but some of these guitarists were and are incredible....I just wish they would come out and do solo projects like so many other greats like Marty Friedman.

Wow....I didn't even watch the whole video even I mentioned the solo project and 30 seconds later he said he is going to release one.....that will be awesome.

His live sound is amazing, he has a rig rundown video that shows everything he uses. Truly underrated player

Guitar snobs have a heart attack everytime they see this guitar. 2 humbuckers and a floyd rose? Blasphemy!

Deniz M same here! Mick is an inspiration to keep following my dreams. That this is just a bump in the road.

I got it too and with the Indiana weather rain and damp fucks my joints up

To Deniz M - I suffer from the same thing. It never stops, seldom lets up. I can’t imagine how Mick stands on stage as long as he does, nor how he plays so well. Amazing!

Yeah Michael I take embrel shots but I've had it scents 1998 so I think it's not working as well cause it going in my right wrist to my thumb and licks are fucker up at all yet they got hi. On some good drugs

Ryan, I am gonna take my Enbrel shot today! :) We are still lucky to have Enbrel. Before the latter, my life was a mess because of the constant pain. The pain is relatively under control nowadays. Stay strong my friend.

Brandon Munson I saw that same tour. Both bands were on fire.

I want to hear that...

Most technical is not always the best way is it. So what do you say about punk music then?

You aren’t wrong, J5 is definitely more technically proficient. But Micks tone is legendary and his style is awesome along with his song writing skills.

No Mick No Motley

You’d be surprised what you can do with single coils

Active single coils sound better.

Godzilla Simpson I’ve never in my life seen an active single coil

@@someone___1240 EMG makes them. I have one in my Ibanez.

They still have the thin sound of a single coil but they are somewhat more versatile. For example david gilmour used emg active single coils. Look them up and you'll be suprised.

I was thinking the same thing.

SuhariPelaa he does look better

It's probably cause he doesn't have to deal with immature fuckers like his bandmates anymore.

Looks worse. Cant even bend his neck.

It might be since he's inside more so his eyes aren't in pain from the light? And maybe he's been relaxing a lot more too

Is there a technical term for that kind of style of picking or is it just at random?

Classical players do this, specifically flamenco players. I believe it’s called, picado.

@@imacashew. what song is he playing in that clip?

@@kristiangenge7773 if it is an actual piece then I don’t know. It could just Mick being awesome. Haha

@@imacashew. fuck I’m so desperate to learn it

Calm down. He honestly just got lucky. Quit overreacting.

Lucky, really? It´s a shame that his band was noticed more for clothes and private lives than for the music itself. He did compose some hard rock gems. Great riffs. The best musician overall in the band (I am not the biggest Motley Crue fan, but they do have great songs). I am a guitar player myself, Is he a guitar idol? Not. Is he a great musician and composer? Way above average? On his style and niche? IMHO yes. Let´s just peacefully agree to disagree!

You're right! I love Mick Mars/Crue songs, he wrotes the best riffs along with the others members!

George Lynch

@@ladariusjohnson709 Just got Lucky-Dokken

@Nadia Y'all are the damn best. I'm honored to have the kind of support that you show me, thank you. How are you doing it is nice meeting you here btw

Probably because they're HIS riffs... What a stupid comment. lol

@@ShutTheMuckUp not so stupid having mind bands like dragon force

Jeff Stanford i think that it is the Mick playing style, huge amount of different amps, handmade pickups and hotrodded amps

Yeah you can definately hear Micks tone change a bunch from the early crüe albums to the later ones. For Dr. Feelgood they had a full wall of amps that they used to get as big of a sound as possible. And when they ran out of the marshalls they even took the clean Fender amps and stuck screwdrivers through them to make them distorted😂 just a fun fact

I tried recreating that Harley engine growl of his guitar. I think you can get pretty close by using a fender strat(prefferably with humbuckers,but mine has single coils) with a marshall amp on pretty high gain,but not max, and a distorsion pedal also with pretty high gain. It sounds close and i can hear that growl and that "sparkle" that 80s guitars had.

One of the things he does is instead of stringing his guitar normally, he basically puts two e strings instead of a normal sixth and fifth string, and then tunes it up to normal, but that string thickness gives the guitar a much heavier sound. so basically get a pack of ten gauge and get an extra e string.

First Last thanks! l like that idea. I think l will give it a try. Ive recently been using a wound g on my Acoustics and l am really liking it. I know most seem to prefer an unwound G, but l like the feel and especially the sound. And l am actually wanting to try it on my electrics. Thanks for the great idea!

Motley fan since the 80s here, around the time Girls came out, I used to buy the metal magazines every week, or month, and I remember one of those magazines mentioning that he had Ankyolosing Spondylitis. Don't remember which one, but I didn't know what his condition was (no internet yet), just it was a strange name.

I'm a bit late with a reply but I have the Guitar World issue June 2014 where he is the only one on the cover. Not sure if it's his first or not, but he finally made it for their farewell tour.

...no... No. He sucks n is a poser.

@@jojo-yx5rx how does he suck, please explain

@Rush Y'all are the damn best. I'm honored to have the kind of support that you show me, thank you. How are you doing it is nice meeting you here btw

Peter C What are you talking about? He’s insanely creative and by the definition of changing music, he’s creating new stuff all the time. What’s your problem man?

Predator Music that’s why mr Peter C has doubled that amount of money and success of mr. Mars, for sure! 😁😁😁

Peter C si caro.

Peter C lol you’re prob sum 5 year old who just thinks he is smart🧐🤥

kinda. not really tho

Tim White it’s pretty rare that he talks on camera

Yes 😢!

Wow. I thought i had seen the gayest comment on RU-vid before. I guess i was wrong😂

Adan A. I hate to be that guy but I think gay isn’t quite the word you’re looking for, maybe shitty, but not gay you know

@Y'all are the damn best. I'm honored to have the kind of support that you show me, thank you. How are you doing it is nice meeting you here btw