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ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK miniature effects. Robert Skotak talks about the miniature work for the film done by New World Pictures. Segment from my Sense of Scale documentary. Photos: Robert and Dennis Skotak, Gene Rizzardi, Bruce Macrae, New World Pictures

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@Noneyobusiness7822
@Noneyobusiness7822 Год назад
I fucking love the hard work that goes in to practical effects
@doktor_ghul
@doktor_ghul 3 года назад
Most , if not all, of the films being discussed are permanently filed away in my memory, so it is always, and I mean ALWAYS, a real treat to find out just how precarious the illusion was, and what that amazing shot actually consisted of. A New York cityscape made out of cardboard and Xerox photos, hand colored with colored pencils, and detailed with wooden blocks and small bits of kit...( shakes head in awe ).
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 2 года назад
Even after looking at that shot of the glider teetering on the edge at 5:30 I still find it hard to believe that it's just a partial model plopped on top of a photo.
@miked1869
@miked1869 3 года назад
There's one phrase that seems to crop up again and again on these fascinating little videos: "We had very little money."
@Jarumo76
@Jarumo76 3 года назад
Little money, yes, but no shortage of creativity.
@Wayoutthere
@Wayoutthere 3 года назад
​@@Jarumo76 Now it's the OTHER WAY AROUND.... Blah.
@ADAPTATION7
@ADAPTATION7 3 года назад
@@Jarumo76 All of it in ten days.
@brockbaby
@brockbaby 3 года назад
Exactly. Creativity solves problems better than throwing money at it. That is why low budget sci-fi and horror are always the best movies.
@joek600
@joek600 2 года назад
@@brockbaby ''Poverty awakens the arts'' Theocritus 3rd century BC
@vonkroenen
@vonkroenen 3 года назад
That model city was one of my favorite things about Escape from New York. I would watch that movie several time just for that alone. I even tried to built my own version out of boxes when I was a kid.
@dieselhorse3824
@dieselhorse3824 3 года назад
I used to try remember the skyline and draw 'clunkers' chugging about lol
@oliveribasta5929
@oliveribasta5929 3 года назад
This documentary is one of most important films alongside Hearts of Darkness and Visions of Light about film craft and film history. Thank you for sharing it❤️
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
Thank you for watching!
@decibelfilm
@decibelfilm 3 года назад
Robert Skotak is one of those effects artists who's not only a luminary of the profession but is also highly gifted at talking about the craft in a way that's not just enlightening and very easy to follow, but also very entertaining too.
@tinkersailorhead4360
@tinkersailorhead4360 3 года назад
I once read an Anekdote on Escape from NY. The model makers worked on it without giving access to the set to the director. When he was shown the dailies of the nightlight, Carpenter was so thrilled of the night shot and how real it looked on the small budget he wanted to immediately see the set they shot it in. So they went and proudly showed him around, the tar painted on the floor to mimic the Hudson, the cardboard houses etc. They went on with shooting and new dailies came. After the lights went on Carpenter turned to the model team and said: never show me your set again. Today I saw all your tricks and not a moviescene. It was told as an example to never reveal your tricks in moviemaking. It can destroy the magic of the illusion.
@dafdcartoons
@dafdcartoons 3 года назад
I have literally been waiting to see Escape From New York featured on this channel! One of my all time favorite flicks!
@RWSCOTT
@RWSCOTT 3 года назад
love the miniature work in this film, esp. the first shot of air force one flying through the spun fiberglass clouds. still looks cool.
@chevy-is-a-good-boy
@chevy-is-a-good-boy 3 года назад
Wonderful, please let there be more Escape from New York uploads; love this movie.
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 3 года назад
I only discovered this channel a few days ago. Totally obsessed now! Superb.
@hgwells1899
@hgwells1899 3 года назад
Same, literally! Wonder if we'll get some Silent Running
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
Thanks! More coming soon.
@djrennauto
@djrennauto 3 года назад
Same! Gonna need to get the DVD
@overtaxed3628
@overtaxed3628 3 года назад
Me too, it's amazing. I never even knew that models were used in all these movies, after watching this channel it is completely unbelievable that I did not notice that they are models and not real places !!!
@anthonyleone2979
@anthonyleone2979 3 года назад
The FX work I think is A Number One!
@TheWolfmansgotnards
@TheWolfmansgotnards 3 года назад
love this. The rooftop just being a photo with a fake roof.....
@bagoistvan3182
@bagoistvan3182 3 года назад
Escape from New York !!! Al time favorite since the '80 when I watch it on VHS ....Amazing story ....amazing acting cast and especially amazing director ( Carpenter ) and tehnical - support crew . In retrospect i think that without the creative genius of James Cameron and the Skotak brother's this movie would never remained over the years on that special place in the hearts of the public. Thank you all.
@berendharmsen
@berendharmsen 3 года назад
zero views and three upvotes! I will, for the rest of my life, occasionally be pleasantly surprised by yet another installment of the awesome war stories of the model builders. This channel will never, ever stop releasing these clips; I'm absolutely sure of that now :-)
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
Well, eventually I will run out, but still a lot more coming! ;)
@berendharmsen
@berendharmsen 3 года назад
@@piercefilm They're almost always a 'drop everything and just quickly watch it' for me, so thanks for them. I really have developed my favourites; Skotak definitely one of them. Bill Pearson is probably my favourite; I love his laid-back, self-deprecating style of telling stories. Do you have a stand out favourite person you interviewed?
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
@@berendharmsen Tony Doublin was a blast. I have more of his work on low budget films coming up. Gene Warren Jr was also great to listen to. I enjoyed listening to them all!
@yourhandlehere1
@yourhandlehere1 3 года назад
@@piercefilm I like a lot of the actual model stuff better than all the CGI. Sometimes you can tell, splashing water and fire don't scale well. One day years ago, a friend's dad hands him a new video camera he bought and a fairly thick user manual. He says "I just want to know basically how to make it go". My buddy turns and hands it to me. I was working at a video production place at the time and played with a lot of different cameras. I skimmed through the book ..."oh look, it'll do do stop motion". couple or three frames at a time. I hadn't tried it before so I looked around the room for some junk to play with. Low budget? No budget. I made the epic Godzilla (lighter) vs Daishi(miniature) in a couple of hours. It's on my channel. I never added any after effects like I had planned on. Things happen.
@robatsea2009
@robatsea2009 3 года назад
Bob Skotak is a superb historian as well - if you have read any of the articles he's written about science fiction films (and the artists who worked on them) made during the 1950s and 1960s they're a joy to pour through. Those early projects starting at New World reflect true creative energy, and what was achieved on very small budgets remains impressive to this day.
@lothean2099
@lothean2099 3 года назад
They did a great job.
@richardbrobeck2384
@richardbrobeck2384 2 года назад
one of my favorite movies the effects in this movie really made the movie Robert and his crew did amazing job .
@rexmundi3108
@rexmundi3108 3 года назад
Perspiration and inspiration. I love hearing these people talk about the process.
@rickytoddbotelho9555
@rickytoddbotelho9555 3 года назад
Great video. Finally I see this after getting countless versions on DVD to get a glimpse of the directors cut of this movie. 'don't kill him we need him'
@tsunchoo
@tsunchoo 3 года назад
I love this - I love this - can't tell you how much I love this stuff :D
@volvlov759
@volvlov759 3 года назад
It’s amazing what they achieved before computers. It’s sad that they had such limited budgets. Great job on a great movie.
@davidw5532
@davidw5532 2 года назад
Absolutely fascinating stuff here! I’m a huge fan of Escape from New York, so this is gold to me. Thank you very much for making this available on RU-vid. To me, this is true movie magic and I have a great admiration and respect for all the people involved in this type of work. So many amazing moments these artist’s have created in movies throughout the years. Images that I’ll never forget for the rest of my life. Cheers!
@vinf.4197
@vinf.4197 3 года назад
Totally enjoy these videos! Besides creativity and talent, their abilities to solve problems and make it happen is incredible.
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
Thanks for watching! More coming soon.
@TheDieselbutterfly
@TheDieselbutterfly 3 года назад
I like this guy....there is no pretension in him
@benbishop1131
@benbishop1131 3 года назад
I never realized James Cameron did his own matte paintings. I knew he was a great artist because of the pitch drawings for The Terminator but now I wonder if he painted those mountains Sarah Connor drove off towards in the matte painting at the end of The Terminator.
@mroctober3657
@mroctober3657 3 года назад
I love that shot.
@kentallard8852
@kentallard8852 3 года назад
No the matte at the end was by Ken Marschall who is a professional painter aside from doing movie mattes, look him up he particularly focuses on nautical scenes and recreating classic ships
@benbishop1131
@benbishop1131 3 года назад
@@kentallard8852 yes I discovered this on a blog about matte.
@DeickFranfan
@DeickFranfan 2 года назад
Spectacular how this special documentary continues to feed me back fills me with a lot of inspiration in this great field of the world of scale modeling, thanks to the channel for collecting from the greatest titans in scenography effects and scale modeling behind the scenes 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎🤩🤩😉🤗🤗
@jamestwhelan6693
@jamestwhelan6693 3 года назад
These are fantastic...I love watching every one of them...!!
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
Thanks! More coming up.
@grunions9648
@grunions9648 3 года назад
I would gladly pay £30 for the full documentary, this is wonderful
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
There may be some used DVD´s of the doc for sale. But these segments really are the whole doc plus a lot more that wasn't included in the DVD. All 12+ hours when I am done posting all segments. Still much more to come!
@grunions9648
@grunions9648 3 года назад
@@piercefilm It's incredible, thank you
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 года назад
_"President of what?"_ 😊😊😊
@Jarumo76
@Jarumo76 3 года назад
"That's not funny, Plissken."
@brockbaby
@brockbaby 3 года назад
Working in the FX world back then would of been a DREAM!
@ashman4827
@ashman4827 3 года назад
back in the good old days when visual effect specialists had to used their ingenuity rather than just dumping everything on CGI
@1995RangeRover
@1995RangeRover 3 года назад
You and the team are incredible still!!! Thank you!!
@3513956
@3513956 3 месяца назад
CGI is a toilet bug next to this masterpiece.
@tankndg26
@tankndg26 3 года назад
Great insight again! Can’t get enough of it!
@malloid
@malloid 3 года назад
Robert Skotak is always interesting to listen to. And of course is extremely talented. He always seems to have a nasty cold during interviews, though!
@s0nnyburnett
@s0nnyburnett 3 года назад
Incredible.
@huckfinn9225
@huckfinn9225 2 года назад
excellent craftsmanship gentlemen
@tomasteran1585
@tomasteran1585 3 года назад
I just watched that movie last month
@michaelshea5622
@michaelshea5622 3 года назад
Back when you actually had to WORK to create the special effects. And it was great when it hit the screen. I salute the old school guys.
@Scoobz187
@Scoobz187 3 года назад
So what u´re saying is, that today, everybody is just sitting in his booth, and magically there appears a special effect on the screen. Aight, got it.
@medwaymodelrailway7129
@medwaymodelrailway7129 3 года назад
Great new video .Like it very much.
@tac6044
@tac6044 2 года назад
Incredible man. Fucking awesome.
@lensw0rld633
@lensw0rld633 2 года назад
Here's a testiment to miniatures. For most of this video I assumed the guy was in front of a window overlooking buildings outside, until I realised it was a miniature behind him
@SquidkidMega
@SquidkidMega 3 года назад
this is great...where can I find this documentary?.....is it available to purchase, dvd or bluray?
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
Thanks! The DVD on Amazon is sold out. But I am uploading everything here on my channel in segments. A new one every week!
@SquidkidMega
@SquidkidMega 3 года назад
@@piercefilm much Appreciated, these are a joy to watch
@mattyboyanderson
@mattyboyanderson Год назад
"How did you get that incredible wireframe computer image of NYC back in 1981?" "Well..."
@piercefilm
@piercefilm Год назад
Yeah, that was done by John Wash and Mark Stetson at Dream Quest, I believe. I forgot to ask Mark about those miniatures when I interviewed him.
@mattyboyanderson
@mattyboyanderson Год назад
@@piercefilm My jaw popped when I first found out how that was done. So simple, and so genius.
@piercefilm
@piercefilm Год назад
@@mattyboyanderson The same thing was also used for Megaforce, which I have a segment about here on my channel.
@only257
@only257 3 года назад
Awesome love this movie 😎
@tremorsfan
@tremorsfan 3 года назад
I was hoping they would talk about the computer wire frame effect. Basically, they just covered the miniatures in black fabric and put green tape on it.
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
That was done by a different company. Dream Quest Images, I think.
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A 3 года назад
Glow in the dark tape?
@cesarriquelme9487
@cesarriquelme9487 3 года назад
Okay piercefilm i lovet reaction escape from nevv yorks miniature effects congratulations tanks you very much okay bye bye 👍♥️♥️♥️👌😘😁😂😀🙏♥️
@zarahirt699
@zarahirt699 3 года назад
AMAZING🥳🥳
@tontaelli
@tontaelli 2 года назад
Is the whole film available? Or is it just in sections on RU-vid?
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 2 года назад
Just sections here on my channel. Must be around 20 hours or so online now
@tontaelli
@tontaelli 2 года назад
@@piercefilm Wow that is truly incredible. For the love of art form. Thank you so much.
@MrTaylorTexas
@MrTaylorTexas 3 года назад
Back when things were made by hand and required talent.
@ADNZ5442
@ADNZ5442 Год назад
Which lens for full frame would you advise for large scale miniatures?
@timmyinthewell1
@timmyinthewell1 3 года назад
Those looks like some Troll 2 heads in the background.
3 года назад
Thats great, a shame he dont mentions the 3D effect they did using black lights and neon strips with the buildings.
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
Those scenes were done at another company.
@bigearedmouse17
@bigearedmouse17 3 года назад
ONE HUNDRED !
@StudioDaVeed
@StudioDaVeed 3 года назад
I had no idea the glider was miniature. Figured it was an old one or just a mock up being drug across a parking lot roof top set. Probably would have been cheaper ;)
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 3 года назад
I often wonder how the scene of Snake looking from inside his glider of the 3D representation of the buildings was done. Although it looks like CG, I suspect it was done by lining real models with luminescent strips on the edges and lit just right to give that appearance. Has anyone seen how that shot was done? I had no idea that James Cameron worked on the VFX for this movie, though I did know that he worked for Roger Corman (the king of doing things on the cheap).
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
You can find many photos of the city models that were made for the computer 3D graphics at the beginning. Google it. And there are some pics of those models in this segment. They were black and white and used to help set up design ideas before the actual miniature buildings were made.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 3 года назад
@@piercefilm I figured that's how it was done. Sure enough I googled "escape from new york 3d simulation models" and found many photos and more. Thanks.
@Hirsbrochannel
@Hirsbrochannel 3 года назад
75 years old?? when was this recorded?
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
Not sure what you mean by 75 years? I did the interviews from 2010 to 2012.
@benlahrman4149
@benlahrman4149 3 года назад
Wonder if they could miniature trains? maybe HO Scale? Perhaps Grand Central Station?
@vinesauceobscurities
@vinesauceobscurities 3 года назад
Still floors me that they modeled much of downtown Manhattan just for a scene that only displays a wireframe of it.
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
Another company made the black and white wireframe models. These NY miniatures were for views of the city at night.
@vinesauceobscurities
@vinesauceobscurities 3 года назад
@@piercefilm Oh yeah, I completely forgot that. Thanks for clearing that up.
@JENDALL714
@JENDALL714 3 года назад
The should re-make this as a reality show, since the movie is pretty much reality today!
@kentallard8852
@kentallard8852 3 года назад
I'm surprised they didn't keep and reuse that NYC model considering its Roger Corman
@afriend9428
@afriend9428 Год назад
*Great movie or Metal Gear Solid the movie LOL* ⭐️ 😂 ⭐️
@simonbyrd6518
@simonbyrd6518 3 года назад
The only shot I never liked was the water just before AF-1 hit the building. Looked like ice.
@Scoobz187
@Scoobz187 3 года назад
The piece at 0:56 sure looks quite like the underbelly of ISD, with hangar bay and all.
@vitocorleone8437
@vitocorleone8437 3 года назад
Escape from New York was both a hit and a miss imo. The premise is so exciting with many ideas... But most of the potential wasn't crystallized.
@huddunlap3999
@huddunlap3999 3 года назад
Do these people make any real money doing this?
@piercefilm
@piercefilm 3 года назад
They used to! But CGI has hurt the business.
@KYNG000
@KYNG000 3 года назад
Escape from Miniature New York😂
@DoctorEnigma01
@DoctorEnigma01 Год назад
These days there’s no need for miniatures, just use the real city
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