Shaun Cheah The comment is suggesting that Jim died in the first scene of the movie and the rest of the movie is some sort of posthumous experience that Jim's ghost is having.
things that aren't gross to randy moore: a grown man lusting after underage girls things that are gross to randy moore: a happy couple spending time together at a theme park ?????
john the horse yeah only thin pretty people allowed at disneyland OH but not _too_ pretty because pretty girls in dresses are a sign of sexual repression
Wouldn't it be ironic if Randy Moore had to spend eternity watching horrible movies like this? Or how about Being a fat person that other people looked at and made fun of by people like him?
So if randy didn’t intend for all the weird lustful and misogynistic fantasies to be a theme of the movie... is that just how he walks around experiencing the world?
Oh man I really don't like that Jim's wife said "Their a little young Jim, even for you." That makes it sounds like Jim constantly goes after barely legal girls and has started eyeing underage girls. It makes my feel kind of gross and I hate everything about it.
Yeah, that just confirms everything Jim already shows with his behavior and I don't know what else she could be referring to. The teenagers are young, even for him. That can only mean one thing! He has a history of going after much younger women...since being with his wife, likely since they had kids. I feel bad for his wife. His wife 100% deserves sympathy for being married to Jim...yet it doesn't seem to be acknowledged by Randy nor Jim's actor. Randy reeeeally lacks awareness of women and abusive behavior. 🤦 I feel deeply uncomfortable.
Jims boss brob found under age p0rn on his work computer and thats the REAL reason ge got firead and didnt wanna tell his family bc it probably happened before, change my mind
You guys, it's a /metaphor/, you see, all the Disney princesses are teenagers! And he's ogling teenagers because it's actually about princesses! Who are prostitutes, also, I guess! In reality it's all about he's actually controlled by Disney!
I love how Randy apparently looks down on adults for enjoying Disney because it's mainly aimed at kids, but then in the next breath he expresses confusion that this kid-centered place doesn't contain or encourage anything sexual...
Can't get over how Randy Moore has no idea how big an emu is. Randy. Randy they're as tall as a human man, Randy. Randy no-one is passing an emu leg off as a big turkey leg. Randy.
I feel like the monochrome look isn't even thematically appropriate. If you want to make a hellscape of a theme park, surely you want to go full Speed Racer and make the colourful stuff oppressively lurid.
He should make black and white scenes only of Disney world and color scenes of something not in a Disney world (nurse office, "sexy woman" room, mad scientist room) So he could be artistical (disney world have SO much color but it's all blank or something) and don't fucked up lightning in outdoor shoots
It's a horrible film choice. Don't get me wrong, I see why they did it, it's in order to avoid the harsh changes because of the natural lighting. But it really just does not make cinematic sense. I guess if you wanted to make a movie about repression (which is gross by the way), you should find a way to put color in your film and have it desaturate over the movie or something. Making it all black and white is just lazy.
When he says about all the adults gasping at Mickey mouse.. parents often do that to excite their kids and empathize with them, but I get the impression he makes no attempt to understand his kids or anyone else for that matter.
he also failed to mention that when mickey appears on the top of the mountain a bunch of fireworks and lasers go off at the same time,,, but I'm sure that has nothing to do with their reaction
Oh god, I remember I saw an interview with him where he’s going on this whole rant about how Disneyland is bad because “People are paid to smile at you, it’s just manufactured happiness.” I was sitting there like dude, that’s called working retail
Randy’s one of those toxic dudes that think any woman who smiles at him is flirting with him. Disney princess, restaurant hostess, the doctor that handles his diarrhea samples for his cat flu…
Ikr? How miserable do you have to be to be mad that people are simply doing their jobs? Hey, Rand? Maybe they’re smiling because it’s to help the kids enjoy themselves? Ever think of that?
@@mirthfulArtist well how much is a ticket to get in? Genuinely I don’t know, but I imagine it’s quite expensive for multiple adults and films to film over multiple days given ticket prices
@@jojbenedoot7459 Even kids (3-9 cause you're legally an adult at age 10 according to Disney) it's still $100+ and that's just the ticket, no extras...it's insane. But they could've had an employee friend take them as guests for free.
Disney managed to avoid the Streisand Effect. By not responding to this movie, it became highly obscured and forgotten. No doubt if they attempted to sue, everyone would have learned about it.
@jambob3486 Sorry I didn't write more clearly. 'Bad publicity' i.e. Moore getting notice from the Disney legal department, would be be free publicity for a film not particularly deserving of it.
Whoever played the mom who hypnotizes the main character decided “Screw it, I’m gonna play a femme fatale in a Mel Brooks noir movie” and I admire that decision
@@lillianward2810 Madeline Kahn or Catherine O'Hara would have brought a whole new level to that character In fact, recast all the main roles and see if they can elevate this therapy session of a movie: Nadezhda Tolokonnikova and Maria Alyokhina as the French girls Goldie Hawn as the mom James Brolin as the dad Armin Shimerman as the Disney scientist
This director seems like the kind of guy who would complain how the women were all tempting him at the beach because they’re wearing swimsuits and bikinis...
@@jasonwalker4003 He probably believes that actually. I'll bet he thinks cleavage is a sign of morao degradation. I believe the alt-right kids these days call it "degenerate".
This poor sleeping couple. They’re happy and in love and this dudes like “what losers being in love and happy.” Dude I think you need to sit down with your wife or something if that’s where your mind goes when you see happy people.
It's the same thing with his comment about the crowd's reaction to Mickey Mouse. "LOOK AT ALL THESE SIMPERING IDIOTS WITH THEIR CHILDLIKE SENSE OF WONDER!" Yeah dude, clearly your affected, artless cynicism is the superior way of interacting with the world. Congratulations.
@@Zimtastic haha, thank you for putting that into words. It's like some people who think they're super woke also think that happiness is only achievable through idiocy. Like, if you're stupid enough to be enjoying yourself you're part of The Problem. He just comes across as a miserable highschool anarchist who's too smart and too aware to enjoy things, not realizing that people can make the choice to stop wallowing in misery, AND still be aware of societal problems. Seems he never grew out of his judgemental teenager phase.
It's so weird that he dropped the "Lost his job but isn't telling his family so they can have one last fun day at Disneyland" plot thread because that sounds like a way better idea for a movie
It actually does. A film about a guy who loses his job and whose marriage is slowly collapsing, but thinks that if he can just have the perfect vacation with them that everything will be okay? That's a movie, Randy. Not...this.
The idea of having a genuinely depressed character having to fake happiness while in the park would be a way better commentary on the emptiness of consumerism than whatever the hell we got
See that could be genuinely a cute or heartwarming movie about a dad having one last good day with his kids and trying to act happy for them and then there was a sad part about his wife confronting him about his job and then there’s a happy end where he finds a job somewhere else and they reconcile. Cliche movie but I’d be better than this
@@harmonlanager2670 Could've done something like the movie is in color up until he loses his job, then the rest is in black and white until the final scene where the color creeps back or something
no he's right, like how my grandma who had her leg amputated just gave up on walking altogether. she said it was because of "diabetes", but randy knows better
@@killerfoxraspberryplays8903 you don't know those people's medical needs. Some people have weak hearts or lungs and look abeled. Or they can only walk for a certain amount of time. I have a friend that can walk but is prone to passing out mid step I'd much rather her use a scooter and not drop in the middle of the path/road. I've had to catch her, I've had to pick up her baby because she passed out while breast feeding. (She was seated on the floor so the baby just crawled out of her lap btw) Invisible illnesses are a thing. The stigma against using aides is so prevelant people who need them are shamed to suffer over using them lest they get harassed by people by not looking disabeled enough.
The line "They're a little young, Jim, even for you, don't you think?" is the most haunting and suggestive line in the entire film (almost certainly unintentionally).
The reason adults "gasped" at Mickey appearing on that show was likely because there were children with them, and they wanted to get the kids excited. Like "*gasp* Oh look! Mickey Mouse!" It's common to do that with young kids.
Holy shit I didn't even make that connection while watching the video, and now reading your comment gave me really weird vivid flashbacks of when I was a kid and my parents would do that same "gasp" thing where they pretend like they're super excited to get me excited over stuff. Damn.
Hell,I don't even have my own kids, but if I'm in an audience with them you better believe I play along. It's this little thing called "fun" that Sir Randy of Moore seems to think he's too smart for.
Right? He says "the magic never went away for them" like it makes them bad and stupid, like the mark of an adult is Definitely Not Enjoying things. He's that edgy 14 year old that's always looking for a reason to hate something like it makes him better than everyone else.
This sentence hits especially differently now that Disney opened it's parks and some streaming vlogger lady copy right striked Jenny on twitter for talking about how said lady had symptoms of covid yet still decided to keep going to the parks.
Of all the legitimate reasons to criticize Disney and their theme parks, the most unnecessary by far is "How dare people enjoy things meant for entertainment! What sheeple!"
literally. just the fact that that was his point completely nullified the film. like if this were a place that the same people showed up to every day because they were so enamored with bankrupting themselves for a chance at meeting an evil mouse that would be one thing but, showing a place where people from all around the world will come to have fun for a couple days then leave absolutely makes no sense. the comparison in this video to a grocery store is really good. like, it’s a store. people aren’t coming here every day to shop blindly because that’s what they were told to do, they’re doing it because they made a decision to go to the store
Complaining about sexual repression was also weird as fuck. He just saw that the princesses were fully clothed and went wow-what repression. I don't know what he expected from a park for children.
@@captaincrazycreative Remember he complained about sexual repression and all that jazz while sexualizing a bunch of french teens. This guy is just your average incel.
It's very telling that the princesses are put down for being beautiful but not giving sex while the queen villain is put down for wanting to be beautiful and wanting sex.
Why do you care? it's not like oscars matter, mediocre movies get oscars all the time, i wouldn't be surprised if a terrible pretentious movie got one as well
"I was surprised that audiences didn't like Jim!" Yes, because how can *anyone* hate a guy who wantonly and routinely cheats on his wife, neglects his children, and creepily stalks teenage girls?
Like, the cheating could be forgiven. The child neglect, stalking of underage girls, and attempted sexual assault on his wife aren’t forgivable. The “protagonist” is the embodiment of a creepy perv preying on young girls. My dad cheated on my mom when I was a kid. Upon learning about this as an adult I was immensely disappointed in my father but I still love him. It’s not a good thing to do and it broke my mom’s heart (she deserves better) but my dad has grown as a person in the decade after the divorce. He admits his actions weren’t acceptable but that he was having trouble understanding why he didn’t feel the same way about my mom as when the marriage began. Cheating, though mean, isn’t enough for me to declare someone is irredeemably evil. You know why I can still love my dad? BECAUSE HE DIDN’T STALK UNDERAGE GIRLS, SEXUALLY ASSAULT MY MOM, AND ABANDON ME IN A THEME PARK SO HE COULD GET LAID! That shit is genuinely unforgivable. Dude is supposed to be a sympathetic character yet represents literally almost every red flag a dude can have. The infidelity is just the tip of the iceberg!
Ps. My dad is a genuinely great dad. When i went to disneyland with him as a kid he even got on some of the rides with me even though he’s terrified of roller coasters. He went out of his way to ensure my lil brother and I had loads of wholesome fun and didn’t start any arguments with my mom (this was after the divorce and he still wanted majority custody) since he didn’t want to worry my brother and I. I only ever went to disneyland once but it was enough for me. The good memories with my family are irreplaceable.
My father and I had like this exact discussion after seeing Steven King's 1922. He really sympathized with the husband who murdered his wife to keep HER family's land and full custody of their son.
When Moore says Jim is supposed to be a hero and anti-hero, I feel he's almost gotten his brain to a workable character. Jim could struggle between being a good and bad person while having these disturbing thoughts and hallucinations. That's fine. But bad isn't the same as an anti-hero. The Punisher is an anti-hero. He's doing horrible things but it's for (kind of) a good cause. Being a shitty dad who leers at underaged girls is not an anti-hero. There's nothing troubling heroic about that. He's just a horrible human being.
The whole "The turkey legs are emu" thing isn't even a good urban legend because it doesn't make sense from ANY angle. Emu is MORE expensive than turkey, and from what I've heard is a richer meat. Like steak with the texture of chicken. So Disney would be taking a rarer and more expensive bird meat and be DOWNselling it as turkey. They'd probably be losing money with each emu leg compared to if they advertised "Adventure Land Real Genuine Emu Legs". Like, economically, that urban legend makes no sense! C'mon, Conspiracy Theorists, say that they're giant lab-grown pigeons!
That sounds like the running gag in my uni town that the local fried chicken joint is selling seagull. The new students, who a couple of days in have all had food stolen by seagulls, inevitably respond "that sounds about right."
Even sadder is there are potentially real and facsinating urban legends all fucking over Disney land and world. Entire youtube channels exist going into them
randy moore: “I didn’t realize how much audiences didn’t like jim” jim proceeding to neglect his family and stalks teenage girls for the majority of the run time
GOSH it's people that act like this that made me not get a wheelchair for years despite not being able to walk more than three blocks. It's not giving up!!! It's moving forward!!! Thanks for your comment ❤️
Paralysis is fake, disabled people just need to try harder. You know, I fell and stubbed my toe once and had to walk on it all day, it really hurt. But I PUSHED THROUGH THE PAIN! Because that's what a real, God-fearing American would do. And as Tucker Carlson says: "It's hard to be ambitious if you're content, isn't it?"
Yeah, for similar reasons, I think Esmeralda from Hunchback of Notre Dame rarely appears because male park patrons would get too physical with her. It’s pretty awful.
That's not the point at all, we're lamenting that actresses were harassed, not getting mad that the new costume is more modest. I for one have no problem with either costume in concept, but I feel bad that park patrons behaved inappropriately@@namelesswalaby
My mom, using a scooter while overweight, but for her back issues which were caused by many falls and a car accident and would severely impact our enjoyment if she didn’t use one: (has a good time and is very careful not to hit people or block walkways) Randy: wow. I can’t believe she’s given up on walking and likes Disney:
I’m kinda in the same boat as your mum, I’m overweight and disabled, and I’m so scared of openly enjoying anything while using my mobility aid bc I don’t wan to be viewed as a moocher just because of my appearance. My heart goes out to you and your mum, it’s an awful feeling to be judged by random ppl
@@servetica I’m so sorry that people judge you like that. I’m ashamed that I might have made the same mistake at some point. I’ll make sure to keep this in mind.
Yeah my mom has a rare degenerative neuromuscular condition similar to ALS, and wouldn't you know it but having all your muscles gradually die and being on high doses of harsh corticosteroids can make a person gain weight. The judgment. Oh god, the judgment from ableds.
@@uberneanderthal Yeah, what *plants* use, not people. Also reproduction in plants isn't really sexy lol? They're plants, plants have no concept of sex or arousal, they just reproduce to reproduce. And unless you have a really specific fetish, that's not gonna do anything for you.
@@trashgoblin1182 have you ever seen a hummingbird pollinating a flower? that little dude is aroused af. seriously though, that's the sole function of flowers, to attract animals for pollination (which is the plant equivalent of doing the nasty). if beauty didn't aid in this task, evolution wouldn't have selected for it. so from an evolutionary standpoint, beauty very much is intrinsically sexual, both in flowers and humans.
I just... imagine being this dude’s daughter and you rewatch this film when you’re like, in your 20s. And a not insignificant part of it is dedicated to your dad’s self insert drooling over 15 year old girls. There’s no joke dude that’s just horrible and sad.
gonna film myself having a bizarre psychosexual fever nightmare at outback steakhouse and when people ask why i'll tell them its an artful criticism of american consumerism as exemplified by pseudo-australian bar and grill chains
To be fair, isn't beauty inherently sexual? All traditional beauty standards I can think of are connected to fitness or sexuality. Same with handsome characteristics in men. The difference is that Randy seems to think women being sexually attractive gives him permission to be a creep. He also presents underage girls as objects of desire. So he's just a weirdo.
@@jasonfenton8250 Beaty can be sexual but someone being beautiful isn't inheritly sexual and we say other things that aren't sexual are beautiful like children and animals.
No its not inherently sexual. Beauty means alot more to us than sexual attraction. We associate beauty with intelligence, talent, hygeine, and much more. Thats why beauty can make a difference to straight people looking at their same gender, its not just about sexual attraction
I think our culture wants us to view beauty as inherently sexual. Because if we feel that since we don't look good, that we fail to be sexually attractive, and thus risk being alone, it makes us scramble to find the thing that will fix us. It's what makes us buy beauty products, clothes, diet books, and all those other things that will make us beautiful and thus valuable to other human beings. If we could just feel good about looking good, then we would be happy with what we had, and that's not good for the bottom line.
Honestly when you said 'a guy who gets fired out of nowhere while at disneyland' I thought 'oh this is going to be a character study of a man clinging to the last moment of happiness he had as if he doesn't have to confront his changed reality once he leaves and thus tries to prolong his happy holiday experience' and I would have preferred that.
Even if it had been just “let’s all laugh at this jobless imbecile who puts his financial future in jeopardy just for a doomed attempt to escape reality”, it would had been much more preferable than this mess.
I mean, even the name, Escape from Tomorrow works for that, a man trying to escape from the reality that comes tomorrow by having a happy day with his family, trying to hold onto it as long as he can before tomorrow catches up with him and he has to accept the reality that he had his happiness torn from him by a faceless hand of fate that decided his time was up
@@morgana4488 i’m kinda convinced now that randy had a mental breakdown after naming the movie and the first few scenes and that’s why the rest of the movie feels like a sexist fever dream
What really gets me is how Emily is clearly meant to be seen as an irritating nag, but most of the things she argues with Jim about are justified! She gets angry at Jim for taking Elliott on Space Mountain because Elliott didn’t originally want to and got sick afterward, and it’s clear that she’s the one doing all the work trying to watch and take care of the kids while Jim spends all his time chasing after two underage girls. Aside from the necklace subplot (if I can even call it a subplot), Emily is completely justified in how she acts!
right? you DO have to reapply the children's sunblock. the kid DID need antibiotic ointment. i saw the movie once five thousand years ago and i don't remember a lot about it, but i do remember not having a problem with the necklace thing either. if there's a personality trait or an opinion you have that you know you've talked about a bunch with someone, for them to just not remember _can_ be frustrating. minnie mouse is probably her favorite cartoon character. he gets her dumbo. i hate dumbo.
@@zubetp Not to mention that he thinks she isn’t beautiful and gets her an elephant necklace. Like, that’s the most subtle and yet obvious way to call your wife fat.
I bet Emily has a ton of Minnie merch at home. Like it's obvious who her favorite Disney character is to anyone who's spent five minutes with her. Also why should she accept the weak shitty apology of a husband who assaulted her on a children's ride?
@@affsteak3530fr like that scene just felt like a wife realising her husband never pays any attention to her or her interests. She's not being ungrateful for the sake of it she's just mad her damn husband couldn't be bothered to so much as know her favourite Disney character.
Randy Moore seems like the personification of my film school experience. Enjoying things was considered low brow and frowned upon just because. I want to say it was as miserable as watching Escape From Tomorrow was. The movie similarly felt like it took me 4 years to get through.
Okay, this has bothered me ever since I watched this video. When Randy is talking about how "mostly grown adults" gasped when Mickey Mouse appeared, does he not know that that's a thing parents do with their kids? Like, usually parents will do a fake gasp to get their kid's attention and point at the Thing That Is Happening. I doubt most of those parents were genuinely enraptured by a Mickey Mouse costumed person appearing on stage, Randy.
I dunno what's wrong with my eyeballs right now but I deadass thought that said "...Micky Mouse consumed person" for a second, and I was like, "Yeah, they'd be fixated on that for a minute tho'." 😂 Oops.
Also even _if_ they gasped because someone is dressed up as Mickey Mouse because they we're genuinely shocked/delighted, what about it? Adults can still like Mickey Mouse, Randy
Not to mention it's just a legitimately technically impressive moment? Mickey popping up at the top of the mountain is literally accompanied by pyrotechnics, and then he literally disappears off the mountain and a differeny mickey appears at the bottom. Like even if their gasps were genuine, it probably isn't because of Mickey, its because that its just *super cool sfx*. But I'm sure Randy feels a lot better about himself that he was not fooled by the trickery of... a good stage performance.
As somebody who is disabled and literally cannot walk more than maybe two miles, I hate the way he talked about people in wheelchairs as though they all can just get up and 'Believe in walking again'
I think it’s funny how, in order to make this movie trying to take down the Disney empire, they had to spend a few grand for tickets and rooms at the park.
What confuses me the most is why did this guy, who seems to hate disney so much, make a movie in disneyland/world, in the process spending a lot of money, rather than going to a local theme park, maybe even making a deal with the owners so they could be not covert and have been filming access, and using themes and imagery to allude to disney. Oh wait the disney branding is literally the only reason anyone has ever watched this movie. If they didn't have that they would have to an actual coherent plot.
The whole point of the film was to target Disney as the worst example of corporate greed. Going to another random theme park most people don’t even know of would make it even more non-sensical than it already is
The scooter thing makes me genuinely angry. My Grandmother, 10 years ago, was battling cancer for the third time, and wanted to go to Disney with her family. She couldn't take the strain of walking all day, and used the scooter. The fact that this man would disparage her for it is disgusting.
I, a normally able-bodied 25-year-old, used the grocery store scooters when I sprained my ankle instead of hobbling around for 40 minutes on crutches. Since I've always struggled with weight (unrelated thyroid issues), I'm sure it looked like the start of my journey to 600lb perma-scooter cyborgdom. I'm sure glad people like Randy are comfortable judging people who need mobility devices based on their appearance. Causes of obesity and/or bloating are always within a person's control.
the fact he described it as “given up on walking” rather than acknowledging that most of the scooter users probably cannot physically walk was so gross
wait until he hears about semi-ambulatory disabled people that ((gasp!!!)) use a wheelchair but then can also get up and walk onto a ride! (I'm one of them, I can't walk the park and have my own chair, but I do not use the disabled ride cars since I'm ambulatory and others don't have that option).
i dont even get his comparison - iirc his gripe is that disney parks have all these kids screaming about appartently inane things (the thirty dollar wand)... how does that translate to the environment of a psych ward?
@@sidney9796when i was still a minor i was institutionalized after a suicide attempt and the adolescents ward for 12-17 was past the children’s ward. it was absolutely heart wrenching to see children under 12 in a mental institute. i don’t understand how that could inspire him to create a raging hate piece about disney after hearing stories from his wife.
@@anunaskedforopinion i would be really humiliated if i were her. One dark, politically incorrect joke that was probably told to her partner in confidence was repeated over and over and over....
It’s insane that it’s in there because everything else is sort of like see Jim is a great guy. Is the wife saying that meant to be her being a bitch or something? What the hell?
Oh I'm sure he knew. At least he'd seen the name an knew what it reminded him of. Doubt he knows what the company actually makes. Or that their name is based on someone's actual name and not a perverse twist of repressed sexual desires. Never seen this movie and thanks to Jenny's very long and entertaining analysis of it I never will.
Mystery Man I know, but considering the bad dubbing of "geosporin" I doubt they'd have risked using the real brand name unless Moore thought it was clever.
The emu thing baffles me. Why would it be emu? How would it profit Disney to import a large bird (or bird legs, rather) that are only indigenous to Australia and call it turkey, when there are swaths of real turkeys right in their own back yard that probably cost less?
The shortest dumbest answer is that people who barely know what an emu is think it's funny/clever to say it's emu instead of way more common turkey legs.
Well, it's the same as most conspiracy theories. It falls apart if you think about it for more than 20 seconds, AND if you actually understand how things work. It depends on you just being a sponge and accepting whatever you are told, especially if it's ominous.
also like... I've had giant turkey legs at state fairs and like, renn festivals and stuff. can't remember if they're the same size as the Disney ones, but they're pretty damn large. I find it hard to believe that all these fairs are part of the Disney Emu Leg Conspiracy.
Him trying to make out with his wife in the Pooh bear ride while she repeatedly says "No" is straight out of a horror film. Are we supposed to be rooting for him/feeling sympathetic for him there?
IKR. This part was absolutely cringe and yet, Randy Moore definitely meant for us to feel sympathetic to Jim because he has a wife that denies him sex but who the hell tries to get busy on a Disney ride with kids around? UGH 🤮
My favourite type of man is the type of man who makes a child predator character, and then either implies or directly states he relates to that character and expects the audience to root for them
It’s because he’s one of those weirdos that have some unchecked creepiness and projection that leaks into their artwork, and when people point it out, they claim that it was entirely intentional and holds very important symbolic meaning, as if it’s a feeling that can apply to everyone and not just his personal experience. It’s the type of guy who wants to make their own perversions out to have more meaning than they actually hold.
Randy: "I'm going to make an artsy film about the vapid and insidious undertones present in the culture surrounding Disney" Also Randy, in script: *...cat flu...*
I do think it's an attempt on surrealism. Wikipedia tells me it has been compared to the films of Roman Polanski and David Lynch. I find this hard to believe, however I haven't seen the film. Maybe it is surrealist or maybe the director is using that as an excuse for poor film making.
You know you’re a great director when your lead actor thinks he’s in a ‘Ben stiller comedy’ when you’re trying to make a poignant drama about consumerism
He even says right after that "I think it is a comedy"... Randy you are the director and writer of the movie, shouldn't you know for sure whether your movie is a comedy?
“They thought they needed the soul of a married middle aged man, but what they really needed... was each other”. And then it turns into a lesbian rom com about succubi at Disneyland.
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 that's fine though. If people enjoy theme parks, then they're allowed. Moore is just hating on things for the sake of it, and telling people who like Disney land that they're stupid.
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 no, it really isn't. Personally, if I had a choice between going to another country and experiencing it, or going to a theme park, I'd pick going to another country. But that's just my personal opinion. Theme parks aren't bad. Overpriced? Definatley. But if people want to go to them because they have nostalgic ties to the content of the park, or some other reason (like it's easier to take kids there than it is to go to Spain or something). I've been to Disney, and it is artificial, but everyone knows that. It's still a really cool place to go with your family, it can even be relaxing. A lot of people go on vacation for relaxation, and a theme park experience gives you more of a chance for that than going 'on an adventure'
I heard this film was originally not intended to be black and white but the guy in charge of colour correction realized he was working on Escape from Tomorrow so he deliberately contracted Cat Flu, took out all the colour in a rabid frenzy, and died.
I think it speaks volumes that Randy made a hug lethal. This movie is clearly made by someone who is deeply repressed and just cannot stand joy. It's actually kind of sad, really.
"How dare these random people enjoy themselves in a Disney park?? I'm going to make a shitty artsy film about a dad neglecting his family to go lusting after teenage girls and screwing with a deranged mother to show how evil Disney is because you can't grope any of the Disney Princesses! That'll show em!"
She thinks she’s making a camp horror throwback, Randy thinks he’s making a biting satire, and the actress playing the wife thinks she’s making a family drama. It’s incredible.
@@JacksonBockus sexy witch mom is acting a camp horror throwback, emily(?) is acting a family drama, and jim is acting a ben stiller comedy. i like this! a lot of the weird juxtapositions make sense in this context tbh
Pretty woman you are not allowed to make pass on- repressed sexuality People that are unabashedly happy - mania Nostalgia for childhood an innocent fun- barinwashing Feeling passionate about something- religious cult Well... that all escalated quickly My religion is now groceries
the idea that theme parks are a place to be lazy is a little funny. i went to disney world on a school trip and my phone said i took 25000 steps by the time i got back to the hotel at like 11pm, then i went swimming. i think randy just is mad disabled people, you know, exist in the same spaces as him.
Randy sees overweight people at Disney: that's disgusting. losers. randy sees beautiful teenagers/cosplayers at Disney: that's disgusting. I cannot even touch them.
If it makes anybody feel better, the girls playing the French teens were actually in their 20s. That Randy Moore had that much restraint is honestly a bit surprising.
@KaRue 3 People don't need to watch Cuties to know it's crap. The message of the movie isn't needed by most people so it just leaves us with stripping kids. It can go straight to hell.
That's not even the most expensive thing you can buy your kid in one of those princess boutiques, the dresses are like $60, but God forbid your kid wants a semi expensive toy that quite frankly she'll get a lot of use out of. It's not any different from buying your kid a lightsaber at the park.
His daughter wants to get on one of the rides, but he's too busy sitting on a bench and staring at this random happy fat couple whike doing a big think
Randy Moore seems like the type of guy who sees like. Megan Fox in public with her kids and then goes home to write a blogpost about how he was sexually repressed by women today cos Megan Fox hot but she was just wearing normal clothes so obviously she thinks The Public Masses aren’t worth it and she was with her kids to show how fertile she is... but unattainable! Because she had these kids with another man. And Megan Fox just went out to buy her kids a milkshake or sth
@James Quinn Men really screwed themselves over long ago when they started shaming women for having/wanting sex lol. They made SO DIFFICULT to get a woman in bed so they're always sexually frustrated. They could have been living in some awesome free-love type society.
My father recently had to use a $100 motorized scooter at Disney because he was in so much excruciating pain that he couldn't walk. He had to find a doctor in Florida and get injections directly into his toe. But yeah Randy I can't believe he gave up on walking
@@mammoneymelon I kept telling him that but he was using those age-old excuses like "I'm in a lot of pain call a doctor" and "I might lose my foot" and "do you want to ride pirates of the Caribbean"
he does criticize one thing- the consumers. however, woopsy daisy, that's fucking *everybody*. the system we live in dictates we consume goods and services, usually those of big corporations. Randy calling these people stupid serves only his delusions that he is somehow ascended above the petty, simpleton consumer, when in reality he also does the same shit in his life. Unless he grows/hunts all his own food and pumps all his own water and is totally detached from the capitalist society we live within, he is no better.
@@timothymclean I think it's a really silly approach to claim to know that he isn't attempting to critique those things. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, my OP was clearly pithy and oversimplified for the effect of some small humor. What we do know is that he is not succesful in critiquing these things. Clearly both of us agree on this. I would argue that the text supports the hypothesis that it is attempting to critique them, but that's certainly up for debate when interpreting it. There's absolutely justification within the text for more than one interpretation here. But that's my issue with commenting in the way you have....the original comment isn't intended as a way to spark discussion about the interpretation, it's intended to be silly. To respond as if it's diving into the text in a wholly critical manner is disingenuous at best and shows a lack of good intention as likely. It's really easy to make your own unique comment thread to get into this kind of discussion - and again, that kind of discussion is certainly worth having and engaging with. But trying to spark that up here? That just seems antagonistic and argumentative rather than looking for actual discussion.
"I hate capitalism and consumerism. How am i going to critique it? I know! By making something using the most capitalist and consumerist medium that exists! Film!"
It’s like riverdale-level social commentary. Just pointing out the existence of a thing is not funny or meaningful, you have to do something with it. Especially when the thing you’re pointing out is something you did
As much as the "30 dollar princess wands" thing sounds like Randy having a huge chip on his shoulder over a small incident that annoyed him one time, it's also the only one of his anecdotes that approaches an actual criticism of Disneyland. Like, Disney plays up the magic and innocence angle so much that parents feel like NOT paying extra for every little thing that completes the Disney experience would be like telling their kids there's no Santa Claus. This would have worked well with the underplayed "Jim hiding the fact that he lost his job so that his family can enjoy themselves" plot point. Have the kids constantly asking for toys and rides that cost extra and Jim, in spite of knowing that he can't afford to waste any money now that he has no income, keeps paying to keep up the illusion. And at the end Jim is broke and it's like, is that on him, or is it on the company that tried to commodify innocence in the first place?
god damn i’m mad that this wasn’t what the movie was !! there are so many ways to make a good critique of disney and this movie just replaced them all with meaningless gross garbage. seriously i would watch the movie if it was what you described
Seriously, that would have been great. This gave me anxiety just reading it and imagining myself in that horrible situation. These kids are too young to even explain to them that you lost your job. Plus, the pressure of being the father who can’t show vulnerability is a strong driving force on his actions. What wasted potential.
Yeah. It’s weird how in these urban myths about corporations not using real ingredients, the substitutes are usually more expensive than the original ingredients.
@@genericname8727 it's strange how people in a different country pronounce words, right? just look at those silly french people saying "bonjour" instead of "good morning."
His voyeuristic analysis of strangers enjoying themselves at a theme park is really telling. It’s so bitter. And then he mentioned his relationship with his dad souring and I was like “holy shit this whole thing is just an ‘eff you’ to his dad”. He’s clearly trying to hide his unresolved relationship issues with his father with this idea of “corporate religion” and indoctrination as if he’s uncovered some groundbreaking truths a la Louis Theroux. It’s one of the few times where “it’s not that deep, bro” is a legitimate response. Men will do anything to avoid therapy, including write and direct a feature film, apparently.
but lets be honest, he didn't really do that did he? he went and shot a lot of footage and then had to try to edit it together into something, add some digital effects after the fact for punch and then film a few scenes to try to make it into a narrative. after that was done he had to pretend it was all planned and there was a reason for it other than trying to make some money off of his grift. unfortunately he just wasn't creative at any step of the process, or it might have been worth watching, or listening to him talk about.
it's true. i remember there was a time in my life where i felt angry and self conscious like that all the time. seeing other people having simple fun pissed me off because it didn't make sense to me - laughing and smiling at a movie or something. i was sure that they were either faking it or stupid. what a horrible world, i thought, where i could never experience joy, because joy was a thing of the past. but then i turned fifteen and started seeing a therapist.
@@jerkchickenblog I mean, there are character saying stuff in front of a camera and its all for the plot he has, so I highly doubt he just mashed scene together after the fact. Listen, its more likely that the bad thing hapepend because someone cared and tried than total appathy. Even your most miltoast, researched for max money dinsey thing has at least some people who cared about their job (and were grossly underpaid).
Lara Sachez he’s just every boring white guy into film with bad political views and thinks he’s somehow fighting the system for having revolutionary ideas such as “fat people are lazy pigs” and “everyone’s on their phones too much nowadays”. also he’s definitely a sexual predator but that’s just my onion!
Hearing him talk about Disneyland just makes me feel so sorry for his kids. They're probably trying to have a good time at the place THEIR PARENTS BROUGHT THEM TO, while he and his wife spend the whole time being all snotty and derisive of everything the kids like and making them feel bad for apparently dragging their parent there against their will! If they didn't, they definitely do now. I know if I heard my parents drone on about something I thought were happy family memories from my childhood like it was absolute hell for them (let alone make an entire creepy film about how much they hated what made me happy) I'd definitely feel pretty crappy. That $30 princess wand definitely wouldn't hold any fond thoughts any more.
Randy is everything thing I despise about film snobs People who think their better than others because they don’t enjoy those normie things like Disney or ice cream and everyone who does is a brainwashed sheep I would make a movie like this if I wanted to mock people like that, black an white, nothing plot, weird amounts of sexual weirdness, and breaking the law somehow. Some people just never grow out of their pick me tumblr phase.
The whole things makes me wonder two things: 1.) What did the kids in the movie think, being brought into this project but presumably being told to "act a certain way" and not actually enjoy the park, and 2.) Why give Disney World tons of money to have everybody brought into the parks to do this project for several days/weeks, but simultaneously do it as an act of decrying Disney? The man is so confusing and I too worry about his kids and how they'll grow up seeing the world. :,(
Or he's convinced them to hold his exact same cynical viewpoint of the park and they don't care about those memories anymore. I don't know which is more tragic.
I agree. As a woman in my early 30's, it is nice to hear somebody like Jenny express the frustrations I feel every day, that men are always more interested in women that are younger than I am.
The whole sexual repression thing is what really gets me. Like....no shit you need to keel it in your pants at a park, it's a theme park! For kids! Like..bruh there's a time and place for having dirty thoughts and a theme park is like..literally at the top of the list of when not to have them, for rather obvious reasons.
Randy would go to a Wiggles concert and be like “there’s a female Wiggle now and she’s pretty, but I can’t yank my chain right here in the middle of this kid’s concert. The Wiggles are repressing my sexuality.”
Yeah. Jim had problems way before ever coming to the park. Going to the theme park doesn’t even sound like the catalyst where the story gets interesting and his inner demons become amplified. It just sounds like Jim was going to spiral that weekend regardless of where he was going to go.
“I’m sure the people with actual disabilities will understand, when you tell them it’s for the purpose of making fun of them.” Holy shirt you just became my favorite youtuber.
When you talked about the two teen girls hugging each other on the monorail I had a flash back to me and my sunburned friend getting on the monorail, emotionless, and sitting down to stuff our faces with cheese dipped pretzals
No seriously every time I'm at theme parks I just wanna tempt some of that sweet sweet....middle aged......hairy.......fat......man-ness............in the hot humid swelter. How Dare I wear a thin t-shirt and short shorts when its 99 degrees!
Especially since this movie would be significantly more digestible as a raunchy, irreverent comedy. Like, National Lampoon’s Vacation meets quite a few of the same beats as Escape From Tomorrow does. Vacation would be INSUFFERABLE if it treated itself like a sullen, sober art film.
