100% this engine is NOT built by BURTON. They are amazing and I only wish I could afford to put one of their engines in my mk1. I’m not into naming and shaming companies, anyone can have a bad day and miss something. It’s just one of those things that happens, at least it’s done now.
Yes we can all make a mistake or forget something, it happens from time to time. However, what defines a business is how they react when you return work that is substandard. By the sounds of it these guys failed for a second time when you went back to see them which in my opinion is a far greater crime than the first time, cowboys of the highest order.
Comedy engine builder. No, somebody had a very bad day. I was better as an 18 year old with a stick lapper than that professional job. Like the water test. Look forward to hearing it run properly. Superb car.
Well really you should name names as it means some poor other people will trust those clowns 🤡 to work on there engines and we all go by trust because if you trusted them you would of left your head with them. You could see pitting on the valve seat before you lapped it in properly so they defo had not been done with that water fall but you shouldn’t really use water as that just helps rust everything plenty of other fluid you could use like WD40 or penetrating fluid but never water as other fluids are thinner so you see really how good your lapping in is
That's shocking work from an engine builder, if they can't perform something as simple as lapping in a set of valves then I wouldn't be trusting them to do a full engine build. Good work Paul.
This is how I was taught to lap valves in when I was 14 in 1983 by my Dad. Then I was taught the same method in 1986 when I started my apprenticeship and how I've always done it over the years. Now, you've just proved that those methods are bang on and taught a new generation. Well done, Paul. As for the engine builder. I would have had his 10mm socket away... 😁
Sounds like you've done s bit of tool lifting in the past ,just the sought of guy you don't want in the w/shop .I wouldn't recommend those sought of comments .
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Good craftsmen who do their job sensibly and even with love and understanding are hard to find. I have the feeling that at the moment people are not thinking about the future and a long-term business relationship, but just cashing in and forgetting... You will never keep your company alive that way for long... A good reputation is difficult to build up. Ruining a reputation is very easy... But it's great that you can get the engine running again.
Power of social media buddy. Name and shame the engine builder. I had a head that was sitting outside for months (scrap) and the valve seats were better than that. I've done a lot around the house this year and had obviously not the same but similar issues. Can't stand paying someone to do a joy and you get a half assed mess done. If you can't do don't offer. Keep it up guys
Absolutely correct basics. I learned this on my mk2 escort when I was 17. Now 54 and cannot believe a trade claimed to have done it properly. Great video, nice that you did it yourself. It teaches everyone that just because you pay, it does not mean its been done at all or correctly. Makes you wonder what else was not done !!!! Keep up the great work buddy.
Your lucky that was an easy fix. As you showed their lapping was never done, only been cleaned up. I'd be checking bolt tensions on the big ends and crank to be safe. Great work👍
Gutting news about the engine Paul, saying that your diagnosis work was spot on and you made light work of fixing the fault 👌🏻 I made it up to the nec last Friday & had a brief chat with Keith, was great to see your projects in person 😎
What a bunch of cowboys! Lets hope the bottom end is OK. As the saying goes "if you want something done properly do it yourself". Looming forward to seeing it run again.
engine builder needs named and shamed on a forum at least , then of course kicked in the bollocks with a heavy size 10 boot , gr8 work though paul getting the valves sorted out ,hope all goes well on your future power run best regards and enjoy your stunning mk1
I'm in an Odd place with this video I'm pissed off on your behalf but also entertained by the great content and educated. Good luck for the rolling Road
Good to see you got it sorted Paul. Great talking to you at the NEC and can't wait to see the SWB Quattro let alone the 5 Cyl Mk2 and Minis. When you get to 50 you've got too many.
What a set of ---- l would seriously check the bottom end after seeing what they did to the head , fingers crossed if you don’t check the rest of the work. Good luck on the rollers.
I am pleased for you guys that the issue was only on the valves not being lapped in. A relatively easy fix but one that you shouldn't have needed to do. Totally understand your feelings. One good thing came from this, you wont be using those engine menders again! Their loss.
Great video as usual always learn something from them, I wanted one of those lappers not easy to find eventually got one from Frosts and I haven't used it yet now I know how it works thanks, keep up the great work, hope you are keeping that car it is money in the bank
I used to club race one of these back in the day. Very easy motor to build up. Even as a spotty teenager I did a better job of lapping valves than that company did. I would be keeping a good eye on oil pressure on the dyno mate. From my fading memory I think we got 190psi out of them on a cold compression test. Best of luck with it.
Great to meet you at the show Paul 👍 I used to enjoy lapping in valves . Shocking work from the engine builder plenty of cowboys out there. Keep up the good work and video's mate 😁
I hope you gave those so called engine builders what for !! Shocking that they didn’t seat the valves I’d flipping be fuming, anyway I’ve really enjoyed this build glad it’s all sorted now… onwards & upwards fellas 👍
Well done Paul, Good to see the escort will be running soon like it deserves…I’d Name and Shame the ‘engine builder’ and let karma do its work🤷🏼♂️👍🏻Sorry I missed seeing you again at the NEC.
@ 10.20 on video can clearly see a pit in the inlet valve seat insert (guess they only replaced exhaust inserts)... and the rust around head bolts on the face - wow what a bodge job! If it was mine I would have used a valve seat cutter on the inlets and just take a smidge off, then lapped in, did they replace the exhaust valves with stainless ones, ( I use to rebuild beetle engines ) just a few observations. I could not put that head back on without pulling sump and checking crank and rod shells....
Having built and raced quiet a few Xflows, Id have the crank out and check all the clearances, more content for your channel. Also I bet they've not set the cam exactly right, if they've just put it in on the dowel it can be many degrees out. Oh and if they've changed the cam bearings make sure they have installed them properly and not blocked the oil feed.
Great job Paul I’d go over everything for peace of mind I wouldn’t trust any work they done you should name and shame them, looking forward to hearing it run
Hi Guys, what a pity, they should be shamed. I agree with Alan Maughan as far as you checking the bottom end, heaven alone knows what is going on down there. The car looks stunning now completed. Thank you for the entertainment. From S.A 👍👍
Should of had Barum engines (YT) do it. They are famous for their extended warranty 😂😂😂😂. What a shocking job. Those seats needed re-cutting. Lets hope the rest is ok 🙈🙈
Good luck lads, fingers crossed the muppet engine builder did a better job on the rest of it. I'd hate to be taking that engine apart with Keith's shiny fresh paint all over the place!
your bloody right they haven't been lapped in , i dont get the mentality to deny they made a mistake , you loose business that way , good to see its sealed properly now
Liked the content of the video, i was upset about the problems that you had to endure on the initial starting of this Classic British vehicle, still it goes to prove that there are some “experts” out there that are taking liberties….! You should name and shame them, clearly those valves have NEVER been lapped in, glad that you have demonstrated the correct way to achieve excellence. Sadly missed you at the NEC, but the event as a whole was awesome, i watch so much content on the tv and You Tube, that i forget about the popularity of cars and nostalgia, hopefully see you at another show soon…
who was the engine builders so i can avoid them forever? 🤣🤦🏻♂️ feel for u tbh as £1900 bill i wouldve been going clean off. cant believe they didnt re seat the valves, i wouldve wanted block skim, head skim and bore out to 1760cc for that price.. great vid again, love the content 👍🏻👍🏻
Saw your stand at the NEC, just love all the work you do. As I am knocking on a bit have a very soft spot for the Mk 1 Escort. So loved seeing that. Did not get a chance to compliment the 2 of you in person as you were swamped. But honestly that was the only reason we went. I would need some therapy to get over the engine builder taking the p1ss. Looking forward to what ever is coming next. Thank You
Can’t believe that someone would turn out such crap and adamant that they did the work - disgraceful 😡but on a nicer note I’ve forgotten how easy it was to work on these old school engines not like today’s modern stuff. Looking forward to its Dino test👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Brings back memories of lapping in valves by hand. I reckon you’ve had that cutting paste a long time, it’s the same brand as I used to use. 🤣 The rule was always there should be a grey ring all the way around valve and seat. I really don’t see how the engine rebuilders can deny missing that process. Also, surely they must run an engine up on a bench to test it once finished?
Hey Paul - such a shame that a relatively simple job ended up with these _'professionals'_ leaving you with a knackered engine. Still, they've lost any future work from you!! If you have footage of your phone call or visit to their workshop, that would make some awesome content!! 😉 AND you managed to strip the engine without dinking Keiths paintwork 👌
I also have this opinion you better do something yourself rather than having problems, really nice video and also really good result on filming this on your own Cheers.
Workmen ship on that head was disgusting no way have they done anything on that.. it's the old saying paul.. if a jobs worth doing right.. do it yourself.. p.s was a pleasure chatting to you and kieth on Saturday.. car looked stunning in real life..👌
There's no excuse for the engine builder knocking shoddy work out like that and then lying to your face. Some of the valve seats looked like they needed cutting too. I hate to think what they'd be like with a more modern turbo engine. As always I love the videos and thanks for making them for us 👍🏻
Hi Paul it was great meeting u guys saturday morning (father and son duo) honestly thats terrible job done on head very easy job how they left that like that is unreal SHAME ON THEM ZERO SELF RESPECT but you have sorted it now it be nice to hear it run sweet please take care
Yes there was its nice to go back in time i do miss the past at 52 now ive seen alot and honestly i wish we could chase 200bhp again yet diesals are hitting 400plus now but its all boring on 1 hand you get everything yet on the other it feels like you missing something lol please takecare look forward to your new project 👍
Good on you. Thanks for the lesson on lapping. I'm pissed off that people would do such crap work. Thankfully you're a great mechanic and not a young fellah getting stuck with this rubbish work. Hopefully they just mixed it up and everything else is sweet
Great job on the value just shows that you should check other people's work. It's a shame that people like making money off people and cut corners or just don't do the job. As people have to take their word for it. Look forward to the next video
Total joke. I had same problem with an outfit in Lincoln. Got engine back, and there were metal filings still in bore and head inlet/outlets, shocking so called service. Looking good now hopefully.
As already mentioned a few times,if they cant even lap valves in I’d certainly be checking over the rest of there “work” before putting the car on a rolling road .
Just joined your site watching the escort mk1 engine build been in the motor trade for over 30 years there's no way they even touched that head absolutely terrible wouldn't let the build a go-kart engine...
Paul absolutely gutted for you but a bloke of your capability you will soon put it right I'm sure It's a dam shame on the engine builders that they have done this shoddy work and let you both down on the build ! and to not re do the work what they didn't do correctly in the first place shame on them ! Wonder how meny other times they have done this to other folk ? You will soon have it back in one piece ! 👍
Wish I d gone to the NEC!, had other commitments 🙄. Wow what a waste of money Its a lot!. Thankfully your top guys and get the job done. Incodently I recall my dad grinding valves In on his 1500 hillman hunter, in the early 80s.... manually 🥺
Can't believe how a so called engine builder could leave a n engine like that did they even skim the head it looks very black between the values I hope you get something back of them for the new gaskets you will have to fit and your Labour to fit and put right something like that really boils my blood hope you get it up and running now with no more problems I be looking forward to the next video to see how yous get on with it
Gobsmacked, the most simple and basic of all engine reconditioning tasks, why would you not lap the valves in 😭 fingers crossed for the rest of the engine build.
As a mechanic I think I would pull the engine if they have done such a poor job on the cylinder head I would get my money back from them and if they didn't I would take-home to court that video would show it all
They must have Stevie Wonder working for them, as they have not seen lapping paste, or the deft movement of the lapping tool. That drill lapping tool would have been handy some 30 years ago when I rebuilt my mates Cavalier engine. The only powered tool i had was the bore honer that went in a power drill. Sadly the Engineering workshop that reground the crank is no longer going. Looking forward to the next instalment and seeing you and Kieth going down the road.
Shocking workmanship Paul 😠 If that's the state they leave the valves I think I'd be whipping the motor out and checking the bottom end 🤔 my mate came and seen ya's at the NEC, he was impressed by the Escort 👍 what have you done with Keith 😂😂
Paul if they haven't done that to the head what else have they not done to the engine ❓ Seen a few videos if the nes show & the mk1 escort in most of them 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
I'm interested in what the new Compression numbers were after valve lap repair & reassembly. I have a similar situation with a TR6 engine. Thanks. Rob.
Bril!. If I had laid out hard earnt dosh to have that head 'reworked' and discovered that, I'd have been a 'b*stard' and named the 'Noddy' company in question that charged for work, obviously not done or not done properly!. Even I know how to seat valves properly (in older engines) and I'm not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination. Nuff said. 👍
I know you're pissed, and have every right to be, but on the bright side you found the problem quickly, fixed it properly and now we all know where not to take our engines. Tossers.
It’s incredible the amount of shite people will feed you even when you confront them with there crap job face on ! Pisses me off took your hard earned cash for it a bit toot sweet i bet ? On a positive side though mate now you know 100% it’s done properly. That old saying bites us all in the ass time and time again if you want something done properly then do it yourself as my dad used to tell me bless him 🤣 Good vid though I know how to seat valves now as I don’t know beforehand lol 👍
The frustration on your face says it all and to deni any poor workmanship is just a insult to anyone with half a brain,an apology and a hour fixing it while you wait would have been a better out come.
That valves were lapped at some point just not by them. If it was like the leak you had at the very end you would be OK one valve ain't that great but not too bad let them sort it as its just a small weep but going by the leaks you had at the start I am surprised you even got a pressure test.
that's a "off the shelf" recon head, off the back shelf of a leaky old shed in someone's garden, circa 1990 methinks if you can't lap valves, i don't think you can be trusted to put seats in correctly, unfortunately i see them bouncing out first time it's used in anger. save the pistons, fit a known good head.... we had a well known, good reputation, engine reconditioners in the north east, family retired + sold as a going concern to a lad + his cronies, give up when the fourth engine in a row was dud, all the gear,- no idea basically, the lost labour wiped our workshop profits for 3 months. i have always used petrol for seating check, water too thick to find the little leaks [quickly]
one of the things that make it worse is that you couldn't have a more simpler engine to work on for a escort looks like it has dubble valve strings on the head so should reduce the chance of valve bounce lets hope the cam is timed properly
