ESPN has 3 Billion invested in the SEC. We were naive to think ESPN would feature a playoff on their own network without featuring their own product/conference.
The elephant in the room is that ESPN has a monopoly over the ENTIRE bowl season. Not one game is broadcast not either on ESPN or their affiliate ABC. ESPN has college football by the you-know-what.
@@Aporiaofficial Teach us then oh wise one. Show us that college sports doesn't care about money and how ESPN which provides that money through control of bowl system doesn't matter. Show us how the regular season isn't shaped by who is eligible for the best bowls and the revenue it brings to the schools.
@LivingInAnInverseReality Thats not a counter argument. If you have two investments and are pumping way more money into one that earns you more money are you going to go with the one that you pay less for and earn less for?
But why is texas guarnteed a spot??they have worse loss of 3 teams georgia,alabama and texas i dont understand how texas automatic spot for weaker big 12 and they lost their rivalry game
Im an ole miss grad. My dad an lsu grad. Obviously im an SEC homer but the Noles got screwed!!!! All for ESPN viewer ratings & money. Obviously Disney is pissed at the State of Florida because of the governor's politics! Also, the eye test is deficient as hell since it's subjective. The whole CFP committee decision is a disaster
Also. In addition to the loss being two years ago. It was Jacksonville State. Not Jackson State. Two different schools, but it was two years ago. Florida State isn't the same team they were two years ago.
@@kellymcclendon6601They put Texas at the #3 spot so they wouldn’t have to use a tiebreaker for Alabama and Texas for the 4 spot, because we all know Texas wins that from head to head. They knew what they were doing. They justified it with a BS reason. FSU beat the spread twice with a backup. Beating a top 15 Louisville team by 10 with a 3rd string backup gets you crapped on, but winning just one game earlier against a mediocre Auburn team who was unranked and is now 6-5….doesn’t hurt you. It is 100% subjective. Sure it was stupid the ACC voted against 12 teams, but FSU still shouldn’t have been left out. Alabama is allowed to win close games but fsu isn’t.
What makes their selection wrong?! There is no und power-5 guarantee! But, then again, FSU controlled their own destiny! If they had impressed when the committee was looking for a state-your-case moment, they almost assuredly would not have been left out; that's how unprecedented it is for a 1 loss team to leap-frog an undefeated power-5 team! With all Alabama did, if FSU could separate themselves from Iowa*, they'd have been in! Without Travis, that was going to be difficult(but why should they get in automatically on an undefeated season based on a 55th SOS alone) RG3 was a Big 12 player(and there is an us VS them mentality when it comes to the other conf when it comes to the SEC), Brando used to hate Alabama(maybe he still does), etc. *Iowa was blown out at the end of the season and struggled mightily with Nebraska, as well; FSU struggled both with UF and LOU..
They are just saying this because ESPN has to have someone speaking on behalf of the FSU fan base. This is an entertainment network. They want you to feel represented.
So anybody who disagrees is of low morals? You don't know these people nor do you have any idea who they are outside of their tv personality. They have an opinion that you agree with, that's all you know for sure.
@stonecold7919 Perhaps, that's what may happen when you disagree with a corrupt business with a corrupt committee. The only people defending the committee are Alabama and Texas fans and the bought corrupt mouth pieces for the corrupt business
It was disgusting to hear Herbstreet last night comment on the Steelers game supporting a backup quarterback and how it's so great to see them work through a tough patch. But he won't give the same to FSU
The problem with the Jordan Travis injury keeping us out of the 4 best narrative is that ESPN was already planting the seed that a one loss Bama should get into the playoffs over an undefeated FSU in a segment on Game Day prior to JT’s injury where they were going over theoretical playoff madness. This charge was lead by Kirk Herbstreit. He’s a corporate shill who used to have FSU’s back. Note to Kirk: don’t expect a warm welcome in Tallahassee, brother.
In 1993, ONE LOSS FSU was put in BOWL COALITION Natty game against Nebraska INSTEAD OF undefeated 11-0 Auburn and 11-0 undefeated West Virginia. This scenario is not that different: 2 team playoff instead of 4 & one loss FSU was selected over undefeated teams. Thus, this scenario happened in the past & FSU BENEFITED. FSU Fans are hypocrites!!
@@BBean1 Auburn was on probation from any post season games that year and Florida State was ranked #1 going into their loss and #1 at the end of the year. Their 1 loss was at #2 Notre Dame. They and WVU also both played Miami during the season and FSU won much more soundly. They both ended up playing Florida and FSU beat them, while WVU lost the bowl game to Florida 41-7. Nothing near the same.
I'm a gator fan. I don't believe FSU without their starter is a top 4 team, but there is no way you can justify keeping them out. You have to let them prove or disprove your preconceived opinion. They won out. They deserve to be in over Texas or Alabama because unlike them, FSU won out. You can't hold out a power 5 team with 0 losses.
I'm from the UK, and I have to say it's ridiculous that FSU got left out of the playoffs. Over here, we have a soccer competition, the FA Cup. Where teams from all league's take part. So you can end up having one of the biggest clubs playing a very small team. The beauty of this is that every now and then, the big team loses to the small team. Every now and then, the underdog will win 🏆. That's is the purity and beauty of fucking sport.
I'd bet that Florida St defence can stop Michigan, Michigan is not a fun team to watch they are borring and they got caught stealing signals of other teams why else was their coach suspended for so many games because he is inocent ya ! Right ! A great defence is awesome to watch Florida St has it...
That happened here last year. They let in the little team that could and they did beat the favorite -- in the first round. In the final we got the least entertaining championship ever. It was over the second time UGA's offense took the field. Most people had turned it off by halftime.
The Boston college of law review has already published a brief in their law review outlining the case as an anti trust suit based on the Sherman Antitrust Act. But they go on to say it probably would not be successful as participation is voluntary and the commissioner of each conference agreed to abide by the BSC decision. They didn’t mention that the suit would be after the fact. Also the conferences themselves squabbled over the expansion delaying its start till next year. I don’t really care I don’t have a team but I do know it’s now all about the money it’s not what college sports is suppose to be
@@TommyCardonethey need lock the SEC out and throw the key away. Also their is still no true NCAA championship at this level of college football and are the only sport to not have a postseason truly sanctioned by the NCAA organization. Nobody is truly the national champ of this sport which is only there for money making purposes.
not hearing enough about #7 Texas vs #18 Oklahoma St. resulted in Texas moving UP 4 SPOTS to #3. whereas FSU beat a #14 LOU (a win the committee should have considered better than Texas by their own ratings) and MOVED DOWN a spot. wheres the logic in that? the Alabama vs FSU was more convenient for the "best" argument while ESPN continues to show the strength of schedule graphic WHICH MEANS NOTHING after the games are played when FSU had the #3 SOR
It just boils down to nobody thinks FSU is as good. Blaming it on the money makes them feel better about it. Like they really got screwed over money. t's too cruel to say "nobody has confidence in your ability to play with the big boys."
Longhorn here. I watched it all. I will say the same thing I have always said. It is not a playoff, it is an invitational. There is no way a system that has any provision other than win and you are in, will never be a true playoff system. The 12 team playoff will have this same problem. You can't pick teams. If you could, the Game Day hosts would have better records than they do at picking winners at the end of every show. No one can predict the winners of college football games with more accuracy than flipping a coin over the course of a year. You can cherry pick games and probably get up to 60 maybe 65% but if anyone were given just 20 random games every Sat morning to pick, a coin flip might be better than most of the experts. A "true" playoff would have a system that allowed every single player and coach to know EXACTLY what they had to do to be in, before the first practice of the year. The only reason that isn't what is happening is because of TV ratings.
I'm not saying FSU would be .500 in the SEC but LSU finished 5th in the SEC, 3rd in their own division and is widely considered overrated. And that was FSU's best win all year. Seems like FSU trying to leave the ACC is indeed the best decision.
Thats the whole issue with college football. There shouldn't be a committee making decisions on who gets in or who doesn't. In the NFL its a clear cut and obvious path to the playoffs. Roger goodell doesn't sit down in a room with a bunch of random people and argue over who should or shouldn't be in. Its based on the damn records. Imagine if the chiefs went undefeated and mahomes got hurt and the NFL came out and says they will pick another team to compete. Its fucking nuts
Or if, say, Jacksonville beat New England in the AFC Championship, and Minnesota beat Philadelphia in the NFC one, and the NFL said, we don't care who actually won those championships-- we're gonna let the other teams play the Super Bowl because we want the ratings; that would make those other teams' hard work to get there all for naught.
WVU Fan here, if a team with such storied football history gets left out. Where does that leave the rest of us. Really think I’m going to skip the playoff games all together.
That would probably be best for all involved, FSU doesn’t deserve to be in the top 4 with that weak SOS and abysmal 2nd and 3rd string qb. So anyone that thinks they should be in there is fairly delusional and must love kool aid
If Alabama was in the same situation as Florida st. They would be in the playoffs. Florida st isn’t good enough to be in the playoffs without their starting QB but they’re good enough to be ranked above Georgia. Wow!
Absolutely. But then they'll argue Alabama had a tougher schedule and better strength of schedule. Sure, but not by much. And on paper Alabama's and Georgia's resume looks really good and schedule looks tough, but when you dig into the schedules of Ole Miss, Tennessee and Missouri, the three wins boosting their resume down the stretch, you will see that those teams did not have very tough schedules. So this is the scheme of the SEC - overrated teams that stay over-ranked when they lose and boost up each other, especially Alabama and Georgia. Alabama's toughest out of conference game they lost. Georgia didn't even play an out of conference game. This is why the the head to head conference records matter, because SEC gets by from the mystique of being the "toughest conference". What a crock.
Fan of Clemson and Miami - FSU getting left out is devastating to the sport. It will matter far more in the long run than one semifinal game’s ratings.
Yeah, the sport is doomed. LMAO. Stop watching then, we won't miss you. There has always been subjectivity in CFB. I guess you have forgot about when FSU got to play for national championship games instead of undefeated teams back in the 90's. Seems like the sport somehow managed to survive.
@@qsplak Since you're clueless, here is a history lesson for you. FSU was named national champion in 1993. Even though they lost to Notre Dame head to head and finished with the same record. Notre Dame finished #2 in the polls even though they beat FSU. How does that compute? On top of that , FSU played in the national championship game (with a loss) and got in over undefeated West Virginia. I guess that National Championship shouldn't count then right? What you FSU clowns fail to understand is there has always been subjectivity in the sport and there always will be. So stop crying and suck it up.
One thing that gives me hope is that so many people have connected the dots and uncovered the BS that goes on with ESPN etc. Keep digging guys. It goes even deeper than that
Not sure if you've seen the Movie 🎥 *"Cool Runnings"* with John Candy?? (RIP😞)....This 2 min clip below👇 imo, sums up how FSU got screwed!! Just replace the *"Topic of the Olympics"* with College Football Playoffs 🏈!!! "Those players have done *EVERYTHING* that you have asked them to do and those Athletes *HAVE EARNED the RIGHT* to walk into that Stadium 🏟️ and proudly wave their Teams Flag...." ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4Bpv4RYCVHE.htmlsi=R-xNrXj-9Lobr_Mx
Is was showing in 2011 when they got 2 teams in the BCS and it lead to the CFP because Alabama has a shady way they got in without winning the SEC west division title and also in 2017.
UGA fan here…. I truly hope and wish that Florida State and Georgia go to the game…. the orange bowl…. do the kickoff for the game….And on the first drive both teams lock arms and walk off the field in solidarity for this hot trash they gave us…
Yep we should both be in, Michigan cheated and Texas beat Bama early in the season when Bama looked weak. It should be Washington, Bama, uga and fsu. Also why did they rank us ahead of you if were really so bad without Travis
@@perfectblindguy LMAO you think FSU lost to jacksonville st this year? Yeah we're done here. FSU went undefeated this year that's why so many people are pissed they got left out idiot. Don't act like you know everything when you don't even know fsu was undefeated this year.
I am not a FSU fan. I am outraged by them being left out. The SEC did not earn its way into the playoffs. The SEC champion lost at home to UT. Bama should not be in.
@@bojowers1048 it means far less than getting the little brother treatment, at home. Stop simping for the SEC. It is clearly down this year and should not be sending any team to the final 4.
IMO a boycott of the Orange Bowl by FSU fans would make a huge statement to the networks. Can you imagine the impact on the TV ratings with no fans In the stadium. Not to mention the uproar from the city from loosing millions because the fans didn't show!
In 1993, ONE LOSS FSU was put in BOWL COALITION Natty game against Nebraska INSTEAD OF undefeated 11-0 Auburn and 11-0 undefeated West Virginia. This scenario is not that different: 2 team playoff instead of 4 & one loss FSU was selected over undefeated teams. Thus, this scenario happened in the past & FSU BENEFITED. FSU Fans are hypocrites!!
@@BBean1This so-called playoff was supposed to resolve those types of issues. If you remember 1993, you will also remember that Notre Dame did something to their field that had FSU players sliding all over the place. Otherwise, FSU would have won.
As a Louisville fan, I'm pissed FSU didn't get in. Everyone acting like FSU doesn't have a chance, but they said that about Washington. All we heard was Oregon gonna beat Washington and we all know how that worked out.
Just for the record, Richard Sherman really went to bat for your team as well and he deserves mention. I’ve enjoyed your content this week. All the best. Go Pokes!
Noles need to boycott the Orange Bowl. Let Georgia play Ohio State, since the fraudulent Big 10 and phone SEC NEVER played one game against each other. Noles were 2-0 against SEC and the was ACC 6-4 against the fraudulent SEC and 4-3 against the fraudulent Big 10. Noles, please DO NOT play in the phony Orange Bowl. You are undefeated 13-0 and our defense is better than three of the four frauds in the CFP 🏈
Sherman needs a hug and a roll of bounty and a tube of preparation H. Don't forget the ACC commissioner voted against a twelve team playoff this year. grow a brain stop being a beach. 😅😅😅
He came across like a typical SEC-hating clown. You know you're a clown when you make Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe look like the smartest people in the room.
I love the argument that "we are a different team without Travis" YES! EXACTLY! and we won those games. The spin zone job for the committee to get ESPN talking heads to somehow spin this as a point against FSU is wild....We absolutely have to get away from this opinion based system. Its bullshit....Which is my next point, WHY ARE THE COMMITTIEE MEETINGS SECRET?! Where are the meeting minutes? Why is it not the most transparent thing on earth.
@@NiktoonsTV Yeah those games are fun to watch, when both teams have great defenses.. but Louisville has a terrible defense. The reason FSU struggled to score was because their offense is just that bad without Travis.
@@martinmccormick2166that doesn't matter 7 sacks in acc championship no one is a psychic and can predict the future defenses won championships alot of them
Let’s not forget that Greg McElroy, the Alabama QB from a few years ago, had a very mediocre game in the championship. He went 6/11 for 58 yards. So the “FSU needs their starter QB to be in the playoff” argument falls on its face. Look at facts. Bama homers are the worst.
I think the “travesty” is understated. This says to rivals that if you’re rival is about to make it into the playoffs, just take out their star player(s). Or, if you cheat to win, it’s okay. The wins that you gained from cheating will still count and you’ll still be allowed to compete for a nation title
Are you referring to Georgia - Alabama in 2021 ? Alabama won the 1st / then when they played in the title game, they were missing two Top 10 draft picks. Had both happened in the in the 11th game of the season, I'd say no go for Bama.
I have never seen so many Florida and Miami fans side with FSU on anything. There are a lot of college football fans who are with FSU. I'm one of them. I am literally at Wake Forest right now, everyone agrees it was wrong and FSU deserves that spot. There's rumblings and rumours now about Wake Forest leaving the ACC after this. That decision killed a conference. Cal, Stanford, SMU are because they fully expect Clemson, FSU, and another school leaving. Wake forest wants to be out. Everyone involved with the ACC knows this is the all carolina conference.
In 1993, ONE LOSS FSU was put in BOWL COALITION Natty game against Nebraska INSTEAD OF undefeated 11-0 Auburn and 11-0 undefeated West Virginia. This scenario is not that different: 2 team playoff instead of 4 & one loss FSU was selected over undefeated teams. Thus, this scenario happened in the past & FSU BENEFITED. FSU Fans are hypocrites!!
@BBean1 Ok. That was 30 years ago and a real playoff should have been started then, actually before then. It wasn't the first nor the last time this problem has occurred. Hell, 2017 UCF should have proven dark horses could definitely compete. I don't think the 2023 FSU players should have to suffer because Bobby Bowden got the benefit of the doubt 30 years ago. No different than Alabama should suffer 20 years from now because Nick Saban seems to get the benefit of the doubt all the time. Hell, just last year there was a crusade to have a two loss bama in.
@@griftinggamer YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON TO RESPOND WITH A REASONABLE/LOGICAL ANSWER TO MY FACTS. I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT. YOU HAVE A GOOD BRAIN WITH SOME SENSE!
@@griftinggamer #1 There wasn't a national championship game in 1993 #2 The SEC, ACC, Big 8, Big East and Notre Dame were part of a group that was called the Alliance.... The Alliance Bowls were the Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl and Fiesta Bowl.... In 1993 it was the Big 8 Champion and ACC Champion's turn to play in the Orange Bowl while it was the Big East Champion and SEC Champion's turn to play in the Sugar Bowl... #3 Auburn was on PROBATION in 1993 In 1993 Florida State played #3 Miami, #2 Notre Dame and #7 Florida in non conference games.... West Virginia played 4-7 Eastern Michigan, 2-9 Maryland and 3-7-1 Missouri in non conference games 😂😂😂... West Virginia beat 2-9 Maryland by 7 and Florida State beat the same Maryland team by 29
ESPN owns the entire bowl system. They either broadcast or farm the bowls to their affiliate ABC. The bowl games on ABC are the equivalent of "I Love Lucy" reruns which nobody wants to see. Until the monopoly over post season play changes this is the way it will be. 80% of the public will never see a meaningful bowl game (based on number of subscriptions and streaming services).
@@perfectblindguy How long did it take you to the find the ones ESPN doesn't broadcast? The mom and pop store on the corner doesn't mean Walmart doesn't control the economy. Your exception proves the rule, not break it. There are 3 non-ESPN games. Not one team is higher than 15 in the polls. So three non-ESPN bowls with only 3 ranked teams among them. There are 39 ESPN/ABC games. Having over 90% of a market is a monopoly.
In 1993, ONE LOSS FSU was put in BOWL COALITION Natty game against Nebraska INSTEAD OF undefeated 11-0 Auburn and 11-0 undefeated West Virginia. This scenario is not that different: 2 team playoff instead of 4 & one loss FSU was selected over undefeated teams. Thus, this scenario happened in the past & FSU BENEFITED. FSU Fans are hypocrites!!
I'm from Philly and I'm a die hard Ohio st fan but I really cried real tears like real tears not just saying it I cried for them players and coaches. But then I got extremely angry that they cheated football as a whole because there is no real champion this year. Players that could have been seen on TV
How did 2011 and 2017 feel to u ? to me 2017 was UCFs year but another school claims it that season and a majority of college football dose as well and got the benefit of the doubt that time and they got it again this season.
No one wanted to punish the Michigan players for the cheating so alllowed them to play in championship game. But the players on Florida team do not get same consideration and no cheating. Clouding their season.
michigan will lose; keep in mind michigan, the players didn’t cheat yet harbaugh denies the cheating scandal… he’s not aware of the stealing yet this indiv/indivs who is accused of this sign stealing was on his staff!! so, fsu goes undefeated, JT gets injured and the team suffers or is denied a playoff becuz of one teammate (hello, thus the purpose of backups QB who compete for the starting job and esp TRod and BGlenn who stayed the journey becuz MNorvell believes in them) WHILE at the same tym Harbaugh gets a 3 game suspension/slap on the wrist and the interim coach is put in the spotlight due to harbaugh and wins and emotes on live tv… how different is that from TRod and BGlenn replacing JT and winning their games? wins r wins; ugly or not!! and for me, the harbaugh suspension is timely, of course, esp cuz it was the regular season and not during playoffs…. yeah, michigan beat iowa but notice how harbaugh avoided the gatorade splash? most coaches who know they win convincingly will enjoy the win but harbaugh ran away from it! and then harbaugh goes online to give all the glory to Christ, his Lord and Savior? bro, remember, ‘thou shalt not steal’; whether physically or in your mind! Harbaugh knows something is up and he’s hiding something… keep in mind though, whatever is hidden will be disclosed! ur cheating will affect u and your players; the same players who have kept u undefeated… i’m not an alabama fan but they will defeat u in pasadena….of course, it’s what the committee wants!
It's ironic because the ACC reps on the committee might have just destroyed their conference if FSU decides to leave now and it starts a domino effect of other teams leaving, like Clemson.
The statement has been made! It doesn't matter anymore about wins and losses, ITS ABOUT THE MONEY!! Sad thing is this is being seen and heard by all up and coming athletes all the way down to Pop Warner Leagues
So FSU is kept out of the college playoffs because it’s “not the same team with Jordan Travis” then why is Jordan Travis out of the Heisman hunt? Obviously we were a top 4 team with JT according to these experts.
If it was about views and rating, FSU was one of the top watched teams with millions of views and one of the top rated teams in college football. I'm not buying ratings part. I do believe FSU would compete with a y team in the invited 4.
They don't see, nor recognize you, you can't stop watching, and tell all others, and this ship still gone sail, College Football FOREVER, and oh yea, ROLL TIDE
They really made the argument that they’re not a top 4 team without Travis, but the previous rankings they were in without Travis didn’t represent that. The committee just changes criteria whenever they feel like it and it’s been like that every season. Each year a different criteria is focused on more than before.
@lawless7859 wtf are you talking about? They still went undefeated with 2 different backup quarterback one of which was a freshman who never started a college game before. If anything fsu played like they wanted more than anyone
If they left Florida State out of the playoffs because they want a good game and views they could have let Colorado go to the playoffs they get all of good TV record watching the game
Haha! That's a good point. They literally shoved them down everyone's throat until the sheep got in board and the others HATED them. Personally, I was SICK of hearing about them. But!!! This is proof that their publicity stimulates views.
Dan Mullen you are absolutely correct this is all about $3 billion with the investment by ESPN. It’s about politics wealth name and recognition and ultimately about the ratings of the game which impacts millions of dollars with the profit. A football game should be decided on the field, and Florida State made that happen by finishing the season undefeated you have 22 teams with one loss each and it is my understanding. Another team is currently being investigated for violations at least that’s what the discussion is out there. I cannot say this for certain this is an absolute disgrace ESPN should be held accountable along with the chairman of the selection committee and members. It’s a disgrace move on Louis go home. It’s a simple as that should not be determined on ratings.
😂😂😂agree, except for the cheap shot at meeeechigan! The ncaa doesn't like Harbaugh because he speaks out against them and for players to be compensated! The ncaa is a Dictatorship and doesn't want to see all that money leave their coffers! Coaches stealing signs and giving them to other teams that you will play is far more heinous than some delusional dweeb that wants to be a head coach having someone video a game with their cell phone😂😂😂😂Gooooo Bluuuuuueeeeee Baby! And we do support FSU and not because we think we could beat them, it's just the far more deserving team, period! But dictator want-a-bee espn was not going to Broadcast the espn invitational without their product being promoted! FSU to the B1G let's Go Noles!
In 1993, ONE LOSS FSU was put in BOWL COALITION Natty game against Nebraska INSTEAD OF undefeated 11-0 Auburn and 11-0 undefeated West Virginia. This scenario is not that different: 2 team playoff instead of 4 & one loss FSU was selected over undefeated teams. Thus, this scenario happened in the past & FSU BENEFITED. FSU Fans are hypocrites!!
Truth be known, FSU was the top dawg for well over a decade, lost their way and clawing their way back to the top, about to resume where they had left off this totally scares those running college football they know good and well FSU does not have the kind of budget some of these other power programs and they have to make sure to slow FSU down. Think of having Texas or Oregon budgets and the FSU program with current staff in tact. Thank you Coach Norvel an others, dump the ACC and soar.
This whole playoff thing is a fascinating debacle this year. People also keep forgetting how many close calls Texas had this season. They dodged at least 2 major bullets & got some breaks. Yes, they beat Bama. Michigan did what ? OSU and Penn St. Bama did recover after the Texas loss at home (manhandled at home) and if Auburn's coaches didn't blow it on that last drive, Bama would have lost the iron bowl. Bama has 2 good wins - Georgia & Ole Miss. FSU won all their games, won their conference. Had major adversity and beat their arch rival away and a solid Lville team that had a really good season. Its nonsense. FSU did get robbed. For some odd reason, I think they will beat UGA in the orange bowl, it would be fitting. How many of the Dog NFL draft players will suit up?
@@jonathanwestveld6312 fsu has no good wins other than lsu who bama whipped up and down the field in the second half. fsu playe 10 teams with losing record and should have lost to louisville. and got slapped around by a garbage florida team.
Serious Question: If Michigan defeats Alabama, who will play in the National Championship Game against the winner of Washington/Texas? I assume Alabama will advance regardless of the game itself, because obviously what happens on the field doesn’t matter anymore. It’s all performative.
In 1993, ONE LOSS FSU was put in BOWL COALITION Natty game against Nebraska INSTEAD OF undefeated 11-0 Auburn and 11-0 undefeated West Virginia. This scenario is not that different: 2 team playoff instead of 4 & one loss FSU was selected over undefeated teams. Thus, this scenario happened in the past & FSU BENEFITED. FSU Fans are hypocrites!!
Why don't you tell us if youd bet your home that FSU will beat UGA. I mean FSU was fated to be owned by them anyway. Whats the problem? FSU was going to lose no matter what. 100% still going to lose by UGA. nothing more
@@lawless7859 With a defense like Florida State has, they ABSOLUTELY have a 50/50 shot of beating any of the 4 playoff teams AND Georgia. That defense is suffocating, and when you can hold opponents under 21 you ABSOLUTELY have a shot. This is why we play the games, that way our “I think so” goes on the back-burner and the players actually settle it ON THE FIELD. What a concept!! Seems to me that this is what sports are all about, at their core. Had justice been served, FSU would be in (and I don’t even like FSU), and they would have had a very decent chance of winning. The scores would have been like 10-7 or 6-3 but a win is a win is a win. Unfortunately, they were robbed of the opportunity they deserved.
@@Dragonshieeet Sure seems that way … I can say, as a Tennessee fan, that if we ascended to the Final 4 in such an unfair way, of course I’d be rooting for my Vols to win out and claim the Natty. However, I would also be intellectually honest enough to admit that we didn’t deserve to be there … This whole thing is just rotten to the core.
You can tell it’s bullshit cause the same committee when Travis got hurt was saying how resilient and tough FSU was for winning without him. If they felt we were that much worse, why didn’t we drop in the rankings before the very LAST rankings?
And yet when Alabama looks like shit against Auburn with their starting QB, it doesn't count. But when FSU looks not great offensively (in the same week), it does matter.
As you said the biggest thing that needs to be highlighted everywhere is their own guidelines. They compared apples to oranges instead of apples to apples. 13-0 should only be compared to 13-0 teams
Over the years the money in college football has soured my experience and interest. This might just be the straw because I literally have no interest in watching any of the playoff games and I won't.
I’m one. If FSU boycotts or wins their bowl game, I think they should claim a share of the National Championship. If UM wins the invitational tournament, I’ll happily confirm FSU’s claim.
21:08 of the video meeeechigan cheating😂😂😂😂😂, please that's a red herring! It was because Harbaugh called out the ncaa for their hoarding the money and not wanting players to be compensated originally! Now they do, but with them in charge instead of them being kicked to the curb by the conferences and conferences setting up their own organization! It's always been about control and money!
@@therealohio6647 They'll need to boycott UGA as they have like a 5% chance of victory in that matchup. I'd be shocked if it's not worse than the TCU UGA natty last year.
What a ignorant reply perfectblindguy. Why would Michigan want to play FSU over Bama? If UM loses to Bama, then there’s zero shame losing to the “win at all cost SEC giant”. If UM lost to FSU it would be a shameful offseason for the fans that would expect a victory. Plus as I stated win or lose for Michigan, if FSU finishes undefeated, I would back up their claim of a title. Why would UM supporters claim to support FSU’s position even if UM wins it all? College football is corrupt, that’s the bottom line.
@@perfectblindguyAnd alabama barely beat auburn and several other games. At least 6 games with a score of 3. So this team that us so dominate can't stop teams from scoring against them. But FSU did that in the last 2 games with Jordan.
@@seekingthetruth2748 You'll see where your team lies if you don't back down from playing UGA. Then again, it would trash the narrative when you get beat by 40.
I agree fully with RG3 it should have been between Texas and Alabama not this 3 way race with FSU Texas and Bama. I’m more mad that Texas was just a shoe in because they had to for the Bama win. But Texas lost to Oklahoma all of a sudden that doesn’t matter?
@perfectblindguy You really don't know that. Michigan was there last year and lost to TCU, but so interesting all people talk about is TCU's loss and nothing about michgan's loss. Games are played on the field not in opinions of people who are not playing in the game.
@@seekingthetruth2748 FSU will get boatraced by UGA in the Orange bowl, if they decide to play the game. That's up to them, but it will just look like they are scared to play UGA because it will ruin their narrative that they were only left out because of Bama biases and money... not for the fact that they're a top 15 school playing dress up as a top 4 school and got called out on it.
Agree 100 percent. No one mentions Texas losing to Oklahoma and barely getting the W over K-State. Also, throw in the two schools Oklahoma lost to. To me that all cancels out the Texas win at Bama, especially when you add in Bama beating Georgia.
But for fumbled punt ( 93% of all punts are caught) and a last play thail mary pass ( 91% of all hail mary passes fall incomplete) in the auburn game ( Auburn , a team which was beaten soundly by the University of New Mexico 31-10 the week previously) Alabama is a two loss team. The odds of a fumbled punt with change of possession and a successful hail mary occurring on the same and last possession is 8453 to 1.If I am on the committee the odds of Alabama (a team which barely beat Arkansas the last place team in the SEC by a field goal playing at home) would have been 8453 to1.
Florida State torched their last 6 opponents 287 to 51 which included #10 Clemson and #4 Florida ... They beat those two by a combined score of 84 to 14
Florida State torched their last 6 opponents 287 to 51 which included #10 Clemson and #4 Florida ... They beat those two by a combined score of 84 to 14
The true best 4 teams would be Michigan, Texas, Bama, Georgia! However Washington and FSU deserved a spot over a team that lost by 10 at home and a team that lost by 7 to a 15th ranked team.
St. Louis was willing to build a new football stadium to keep the Rams and the NFL Relocation committee even recommended the Rams stay is St. Louis based upon the new stadium. Stan Kroenke paid off NFL owners by signing an indemnification agreement to protect them from any St. Louis lawsuits to get approval to move the team to L.A.. He wanted large TV ratings. I feel sorry for Flordia State. Yes, this is all about big money and national TV ratings. If Alabama had lost to Auburn, and then beat Georgia even Georgia would have been selected by The Committee saying Bowers and Mc Conkey played the Alabama game banged up and were better than FSU. It is just good there will now be a 12 team playoff so the complaints about the number 12 team has little siginificance. Florida State earned the number 4 selection. Mizzou fan
I don't believe that the 12 team system will be better. The cfp committee will pad 5-12 with sec teams and ensure there are 2 sec teams in the top 4 that have a bye week. That guarantees that an sec team wins
Alabama deserved the chance they beat the #1 teams and two time national champ no one else can claim that in the past three seasons people need to wake up that was a monumental victory.
Wow, I am a Gator fan since the 80’s and not all Gator fans feel this way. I’m disappointed for FSU and strongly disagree with the bs, political decision made to keep FSU out. It’s not right, ethical and will crush the true spirit of college football if this does not change. I hope they either play and crush their opponent or they refuse to play and make a HUGE statement.
In 1993, ONE LOSS FSU was put in BOWL COALITION Natty game against Nebraska INSTEAD OF undefeated 11-0 Auburn and 11-0 undefeated West Virginia. This scenario is not that different: 2 team playoff instead of 4 & one loss FSU was selected over undefeated teams. Thus, this scenario happened in the past & FSU BENEFITED. FSU Fans are hypocrites!!
About Travis Hunter: while I get it, I have never bought into the hate against him from Nole fans. He's a phenomenal player and by all accounts is a great kid. Him throwing the hat, I mean come on folks. He was what, 18 years old? He was doing what he was told to do. This was never on him and was always on Prime and his beef against FSU. Man if Hunter entered the portal and came to FSU I would be thrilled.
Thank you again TJ. I agree that these videos and discussions are cathartic. I saw a Tweet that sums this up nicely. Some guy asks: When are you FSU fans going to get over this? Response: 1) It's been 5 days 2) Never!
1st ever Power 5 undefeated champion not in the playoff. The committee has shown us that a win does not matter but how much money can they make by which teams they the committee and “espncnn” can make on the viewings. Colloge football has been damaged by the precedent being changed by the committee. Football is a team sport not defined by just one person. Go Noles and boycott respectfully .. key players are already leaving.
I feel your pain but by boycotting the Noles may be going down a rode that has no precedent as far as I know. Florida communities will be the losers, the kids that worked so hard will have nothing to show for their efforts. The prestigious orange bowl of all ironies will be scared by a Florida team. The Noles are known for being ballers, they should play and prove naysayers wrong when or lose, bigger story win or lose, don’t miss that moment. 1st ever Power 5 undefeated champion not in the playoffs but played in the orange bowl and competed (and not just attended). People will be clapping for you in the football world and Florida on game day.
As a Baylor fan, I remember the pain of being left out in 2014. It’s clear that ESPN is only focused on money. Bye bye college football as we once knew it. I won’t be watching the playoffs this year.
All this who is better has nothing to do with it, if it did, the NY Jets would never been the World Champion. Tiger Woods would have been World Champion 25 times. Nolan Ryan would have won MVP every single year. Ali would have been Champ every single year. The games DO MATTER. Soon ESPN will fall into some file vault and join Wide World of Sports. Kirt Herbstreet will forever be haunted over his actions.
I've been an FSU fan for life and I work in an office with a Georgia fan, a Notre Dame fan, an Oregon fan, a Clemson fan, a Purdue fan, a Maryland fan, a UCF fan and my husband is a Michigan fan! There are 2 things we all agreed on this past week, Florida State should have been in, and college football showed its hand as a corrupt system that only cares about ratings and money! My love and belief in college football died last Sunday afternoon.
my brother is a dead hard canes fan and hates the noles with a Passion and he took some time to call cuz knew how upset I was by my post on social media and he of all people agrees like most people that this was complete bs. and what I don't understand is why is the ACC teams not supporting FSU with statements like these. go noles!
Boy I’ve never seen so many adults act like children in my life. the SEC hate is real. funny thing is that they won’t be able to cry next year. And the SEC will continue to show and prove their dominance over the other 4 conferences
FSU’s biggest win came against a team that was just another w to Alabama. And while Florida State was battling #17 for the ACC title, Bama was beating the number 1 team in the country. They may be “power 5” but they played a Boise State/UCF/Cincinnati caliber schedule. And at the end of the day, they’re left with the same argument that those teams had…”we’re undefeated and won our conference…even though we didn’t play anybody”
@@DNSKansas You know I could go and point out how bad Bama looked against inferior teams and how the whole SEC was overrated if you look at this or that metric or at how FSU's offense with the 3rd string QB was actually better than Michigan's 1st string and so on and so on, but that just kind of validates this whole kind of discussion. I call this a "my dad can beat up your dad" argument. Anyone can make any case they want with all the stats out there. But there is one very simple stat that you don't get to argue with. 13 and 0 is better than 12 and 1. That's it. Bottom line. No other argument needed. If Bama was as good as FSU they would not have lost to Texas at HOME! No way FSU does that. I mean I'm sorry that you guys think the SEC was so weak that two SEC wins are meaningless for FSU because the SEC is just tougher. That is an absurd and circular argument. 13 and 0. 13 and 0. 13 and 0. But please do enjoy the Alabama Invitational. You clearly have a lot of time on your hands to come trolling over here.
The committee over-ranked SEC mid-level teams all season. The most egregious is Tennessee (8-4)final ranking of #21 . They did this to ensure Missouri had a top 25 win …Missouri was then “justified” to be top 10. This dynamic props up Alabama as well.
It doesn't help Alabama. What helps Alabama is a win over Georgia. But you could honestly say the same about LSU, Arizona, Notre Dame, NC State, Oregon State, Clemson and Kansas State. Its not just Tennessee and LSU that were overrated and its not just the SEC. Every power 5 conference except the BIG 10 (although I've seen a lot of Iowa haters) had teams ranked where they shouldn't have been which boosted SOS.
Where's the video on the uptick of congressional interest. We need to actually ramp up the pressure. It's bigger than just being slighted. They're using our school funding (across all states) to enrich themselves.
There's more parody among the conferences than most think, especially among mid tier teams. At the top there are the usual suspects in each confr. and Clemson having a down year (for Clemson) doesn't make the ACC a bad confr. UO fans have our own gripe in getting matched with Liberty, which is a no win situation as well.
It was definitely about the ratings and the money.. college football is tainted. Espn had a huge roll in the decision and the fact that espn is owned by disney and this is the way disney was able to give the finger to desantas and Tallahassee due to their issues
@@Jay_Jones71602 final AP and coaches polls had FSU at #3 and #4. Stop trying to gaslight us. CFP committee selection differs from final AP and coaches’ polls. Money was a factor, absolutely. But was it an improper factor to consider? What we have this year with the CFP is not a determination of national champion. It’s something else, not sure yet exactly. A playoff for 4 very good teams? Final 4 should have included GA and FSU.
ESPN holds a lot of power having a huge, exclusive contract with the SEC. It’s already been revealed earlier this week that ESPN would lose upwards of $150K+ if there was no SEC team put into the 4 team playoffs! Money & power! Follow the money!!!
The fact that the TEAM wins when the star player is out should improve your resume because you have proven that you have the best TEAM, not Star + 21 others.
I was all the way with you, until you took the shot at Michigan. Just couldn't help yourself. Yeah, I'm a Michigan fan, and yes, I think FSU got screwed, for every reason that's been said. I knew when Georgia blew it, that Bama was going to get in, but there is no way that FSU should not have got in. Texas I guess deserves their Spot, but Bama couldn't be justified, without putting Texas in, so there's THAT. Still no way in Hell that an UNDEFEATED POWER 5 CONFERENCE CHAMPION should've been left out.
BS FSU guy! If the SEC, Disney, ESPN, & NCAA felt threatened by FSU….they would find cheating at FSU. Michigan isn’t doing anything close to what goes on at the top SEC schools. All the top schools do extra to win, including FSU. FSU got left out because college football is corrupt, that same corruption is why there’s a “cheating” rumor surrounding Michigan. Both schools are victims, but yet you repeat their BS, & UM supporters see through the BS
Remember in 1993 when #1 FSU lost to #2 Notre Dame, but got to play in the championship game anyway. I remember, you guys have no room to talk whatsoever.
Yes this shit is WWE ..of course the kids playing fr but the politics and refs all the people at the top calling the shots it’s def scripted to what they want
You should fire your AD/President for not saying yes to the SEC multiple times when they offered you a chance to come over from the ACC. It's too late to whine about it now.
In 1993, ONE LOSS FSU was put in BOWL COALITION Natty game against Nebraska INSTEAD OF undefeated 11-0 Auburn and 11-0 undefeated West Virginia. This scenario is not that different: 2 team playoff instead of 4 & one loss FSU was selected over undefeated teams. Thus, this scenario happened in the past & FSU BENEFITED. FSU Fans are hypocrites!!
In 1993, ONE LOSS FSU was put in BOWL COALITION Natty game against Nebraska INSTEAD OF undefeated 11-0 Auburn and 11-0 undefeated West Virginia. This scenario is not that different: 2 team playoff instead of 4 & one loss FSU was selected over undefeated teams. Thus, this scenario happened in the past & FSU BENEFITED. FSU Fans are hypocrites!!
Just as I said, wealth, politics, name, and recognition to ultimately prostrating $3 million invested by ESPN so you tell me who made this decision. This is a bunch of crap.
I think the majority of sports fans relize how corrupt this was. We need to boycott watching the games. Make sure the three games are the lowest rated of all the playoff games
@@perfectblindguyHow do you know that? Show me statistics of games played where those teams beat FSU. Wait thats right there isn't any because those games haven't happened. It is just your opinion and nothing else. Just saying it over and over again doesn't make your opinion the truth
I'm a Gator and excited to see what FSU accomplished this season. It doesn't matter what you "BELIEVE" about the fact that starter is out for the season. What does matter is that they went undefeated, the "next man up"on this team was bought into 100%. Backup has won must have games, and that's what matters. For other Gator fans like me... Rodemaker is as good if not better than UF Mertz. Fact is Gators are not good and won't be for another couple years, maybe another coach away. Would this had happened to Bobby Bowden if he were still alive and coaching at FSU, NO! It's about lack of respect and NO accountability. In Washington D.C. when House and Senate members vote they keep track and it is public who doesn't want the wall, who wants open borders, who want's to eliminate our 1st and 2nd amendments, abolish the constitution. And with that our voices get heard. The NCAA has no accountability and could not prove in court that ESPN and others did not have a huge plan and appealed to the elites. The NCAA should be made to make public all the voters, names, names of coaches, names of sport media personalities and who they voted for and reasoning. The mere fact that they don't only prooves the disfunction in college sports, NBA all stars, NFL pro bowlers, etc. Until the NCAA has full transparencies this will continue to happen no matter how many teams you let in next season. A class action lawsuit should be filed by the players of FSU and coaches against NCAA. They are the one that thought sports would be better with NIL, Sports betting, Vegas gambling, etc... college Sports have been ruined by ESPN, Disney, Sports illustarated and the gambling. Make NCAA monetarily crippled. And Nick Saban must have some stuff on the director of NCAA!
@@JaxNole61 I couldn’t have said it any better. We deserve a fresh start and national exposure. Going up against the likes of Michigan and Oregon every year will only make us better and more recognizable………which with 3 rings you would think we would already be but apparently not.
@@markmac2206 Between the Noles and Oregon, the Big 10 might actually play some offense. It could change the league’s dynamic. Flip side is the last couple games of the season are in the cold, so that will be a challenge moving forward for the Noles.
