I have been watching your videos and you provide a much more objective and factual analysis of NFL stories. Your channel is on to something that was heavily needed to counter stupid naratives that these so called sports analysist keep spewing out. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so so much! I really appreciate it! Comments like this really keep me motivated and inspire me to keep creating content. So I can’t thank you enough!
I was just about to say this. I like that he pauses the video. Makes a point, then lets it continue. Also, Russ is proven in the PLAYOFFS! That’s an attribute a lot of QBs like LaMar, Dak, Tony Romo haven’t really proven. So fields we love him and the upside, but why start him over a guy who we know will be good post season. Especially when we only need a game manager, and to bring the deep ball back.
The Fields apologists out in droves are always fascinating. The media love is too. It's interesting to note that the media and fans were saying that it would take a 1st or 2nd round pick at least t trade for him but then when it really came down to it the owners and GM of REAL NFL teams said no thank you. People who actually know what they are looking at when watching him such as a Kurt Warner say that the tape shows Fields can't process and can't make reads. His record and stats speak for themselves in today's NFL designed to make QB easy he could barely complete 60% of his throws and took sacks at record rates. Use the excuse of the Bears all you want but the mere fact that when Fields went down and they put in an undrafted true rookie straight out of D2 football and the offense was every bit as functional and often looked more functional and in fact won games at a better rate says all you need to know.
I think Russell Wilson is Pittsburghs best chance to contend for the Super Bowl. It is clear the Steelers are tooling the offense around Wilson, and secured Fields as an insurance policy. Wilson beat the Chiefs in Denver, and that was no small feat, considering the Broncos have lost to the Chiefs EIGHT seasons straight, SIXTEEN times in a row… Denvers defense was NOT as good as the Steelers last season, nor was their offense nearly as talented or capable as the Steelers were, even despite the trio of quarterbacks they had. The Steelers have undoubtedly upgraded their offense with WILSON at the helm, plus other new additions, and with an improved defense, the Chiefs and the AFC title game could be a realistic destination… 🤔
You are correct. People keep saying Russ is declined. No evidence of that. They say “Justin Fields’s ceiling is higher,” but when you ask a pointed question, nobody can answer it. Here’s the question: what can Justin Fields do now, or what is he expected to do in the future, that Russ either hasn’t done or cannot do? You’ll hear crickets, because they’re just spouting a cliche they hear someone on television say. Those people are mostly idiots!
Agree 100%. Hoping Fields will develop into very good QB. But Steelers offense is being built to be able to run the football and control the football. Cannot turn the ball over.
All of the "Justin can sit a year" talk is nonsense. If Justin Fields sits, then hes gone as an unrestricted free agent after the season. Teams that faced Justin Fields twice a year like Detroit & Minnesota will have a bidding war over Fields because they know who & what he is. This is why the Bears GM made sure he held onto Fields until NFC teams couldnt wait around any longer to fill their QB vacancies.
@@JWLSports Bull**** Detroit & Minnesota will consider Justin Fields an upgrade over the Quarterback moves they were forced to make because the Bears General Manager never made Fields available while he went through his "process." "Process" = Force NFC teams to fill their Quarterback positions before making Justin Fields available to prevent Fields from haunting the Bears General Manager's dumbass decision. There's far too much available information for you to make senseless statements like this. Google Lions Head Coach's statement on Justin Fields being traded out of the NFC North - then tell me "they didn't want him." Google the many articles where Justin Jefferson is basically begging the Vikings to acquire Justin Fields - then tell me "they don't want him "
In the whole NFL ?! Nah lol. His best case scenario is to be the starter and show more flashes of being a great thrower of the football. If he can show that with his INSANE ability to run from the QB position, THEN you could argue closer to that all around. But right now, no. Not at all
@@JWLSports oh no lol it's higher than that. He's way more athletic than Baker and has a stronger arm. He's just wildly inconsistent accuracy wise, but he has a lot of talent. Baker doesn't. You may find this comparison odd, but I feel like Fields' ceiling is Michael Vick. Big arm dude with crazy athleticism, but very erratic accuracy wise Hey bro, you should do a vid on this FTF video concerning Jalen Hurts. The disrespect of Hurts has gone way too far now ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lt9KPYi6yqs.htmlsi=bmhiQ7og1QcBvUj9
Haha ohhh trust me. I did! You know I went OFF! I'll be posting it Saturday. It's too late today and I found posting videos on Friday end up being a waste unfortunately. So it's scheduled for Saturday morning!
@@jctslicelol, I thought I could take you seriously. Stronger arm than Baker? Wild. He holds the longest and 3rd longest completion in NFL history. Even Josh Allen commented how strong his arm was. He even tied Allen in the combine for the fastest thrown ball. Bakers issue is his arm is too strong at times and doesn’t have a soft touch in the short passing game which Cohen is working on with him. Do a little research you just sound silly 😂
Greeny used to be dialed in to Chicago. Unfortunately , he no longer has any clue with regards to Chicago players.....hell he barely knows about his Jets. Greeny still believes Justin is good.
What a garbage QB draft. All the top picks are pretty much done. Trevor just rob the jags blind and as soon as affirmative blackness ends for fields he'll be done too. What about kapernick? What happened to all his black hype. Hey black Americans Im talking to you? Hear me black boy?
Fields hasn’t done a single thing to demonstrate that he’s even franchise QB material, let alone good enough to unseat a guy like Russ. *Justin Fields’s 3-Year Career Stats (advantaged metrics in boldface* Pass attempts: 958 Pass completions: 578 Completion%: 60.3% TD-INT: 40-30 Passing yards: 6,674 Passer rating: 82.3 *Rushing yards: 2,220* (vs. 1,327) *Rushing yards/yr: 740* (vs. 442) *Rushing TDs: 14* (vs. 7) *Rushing attempts: 356* (vs. 245.5) *Rushing y/a: 6.2* (vs. 5.4) Sacks: 135 Sacks/yr: 45 Yards lost: 908 Yards lost per sack: 6.7 Fumbles: 38 (11 Lost) On pace for 152 fumbles over 12 seasons with 44 lost. Career 4th quarter passer rating: 53 _______________________________________________ *Russ’s average over a 3-year period (based on his career statistics. Advantaged metrics in boldface)* *Pass attempts: 1,416* (vs. 958) *Pass completions: 917* (vs. 578) *Completion%: 64.7%* (vs. 60.3%) *TD-INT: 84-26* (vs. 40-30) *Passing yards: 10,913* (vs. 6,674) *Passer rating: 100.0* (vs. 82.3) Rushing yards: 1,327 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 7 Rushing attempts: 245.25 Rushing Y/A: 5.4 *Sacks: 132* (vs. 135) *Sacks/yr: 44* (vs. 45) *Yards lost: 866* (vs. 908) *Yards lost per sack: 6.5* (vs. 6.7) *Fumbles: 25.75 (8 Lost)* (vs 38 w/11 lost) *Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104* (vs. 53) Fields has a slight advantage in rushing. Russ is superior in every other department. That small rushing advantage isn’t nearly enough to compensate for Russ’s superiority as a passer, especially if we discuss 4th quarter metrics. If wediscount Russ’s Denver years, Russ’s 3-year average stats would be better than Fields’s by an even larger margin, even if we include two injury years in Seattle (2016 and 2021) that produced outlier statistics. While both take a lot of sacks, Russ has taken them due to bad/inconsistent O-Lines and pure stubbornness on his part. Fields takes them more because he isn’t a great reader of defenses. His O-Lines have been better than Russ’s. _______________________________________________ *Russ’s Career Statistics* Pass attempts: 5,665 Pass completions: 3,668 Completion%: 64.7% TD-INT: 334-106 Passing yards: 43,653 Passer rating: 100.0 Rushing yards: 5,307 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 29 Rushing attempts: 981 Rushing y/a: 5.4 Sacks: 527 Sacks/yr: 43.9 Yards lost: 3,464 Yards lost per sack: 6.57 Fumbles: 103 (32 Lost) Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104 *Keep in mind that Russ’s career statistics include two subpar years in Denver.* Both years skew Russ’s stats negatively, especially 2022, when he threw just 16 TD passes and missed two games.
@@JWLSports: It’s more than that. Russ still looks like an elite franchise QB. The players have been complimentary of Fields but they love Russ! You can just see it in their eyes. He amazes people.
@@JWLSports: Mike “Greeny” Greenberg is out of his mind. Notice how he keeps saying, “Nothing against Russ.” He has been called out for showing bias and looking like he has an agenda against Russ. Those ESPN commentators are crazy. The Steelers had access to both QBs at season’s end and could’ve easily gone after Justin Fields but targeted Russ because he was their priority. They were prepared to proceed with a QB room with Russ and Pickett. Fields had long made his preference for Pittsburgh known, and the Steelers already knew about that. They weren’t interested in him, even though the price was already low. And Greeny is also ignoring that the price was insanely low for a reason. People can cite Russ being cut, but most people don’t know that the Broncos wanted to keep Russ for another year. He refused to defer his injury guarantee to allow them to keep him without the risk of paying him $100M for one season. Russ knew refusing to defer was his ticket out of Denver, so he refused. In essence, Russ ostensibly dumped the Broncos! No, Payton wasn’t a big fan of Russ the person, but he would be coached Russ for another year…this time without trying to tank! The Steelers wanted Russ so badly that they told him to get early permission from the Broncos to speak with other teams, which was granted, so they could sign Russ before other teams had a chance to go after him. AND THERE WERE OTHER TEAMS LOOKING AT RUSS! Minnesota Las Vegas Atlanta Tampa Chicago Washington NYG Miami (possibly) Every team that might have either needed a new QB due to vacancy or has a young QB needing a mentor would’ve been interested in Russ. And if the new Seahawks coach hadn’t liked Geno, it’s possible that Seattle might have gone after him. Many Seahawks fans wanted him back! The Bears knew about it too. The Bears only found the Steelers to be an attractive trade partner AFTER Russ signed there. They wanted Fields on his next team’s bench. Now give it some hard thought as to why that was the case. Think about Caleb. Think about the Bears’ reason for trading Fields instead of keeping him to compete with Caleb. Think about what the Bears wanted to avoid. Hint: it’s what the Steelers are facing right now. The Bears only sent Fields to the Steelers to burry him on the bench. Why? They didn’t want the dumb noise the Steelers are dealing with right now. They certainly didn’t want Fields being QB1 somewhere and creating an artificial buzz over the first few weeks of the 2024 season. That would potentially affect Bears fans who didn’t want Fields traded, and it might negatively impact Caleb Williams’s confidence. The Bears wanted to send Fields somewhere where he would wind up on the bench, and they saw that opportunity when Russ signed with the Steelers. The beauty of it is that Fields had been asking for a trade to the Steelers, so it was good P.R. for the Bears to at least pretend that they were trying to look out for Justin! The truth is that NFL teams are BUSINESSES! Their decision-makers do what’s best for the organizations. Fields is in Pittsburgh because the Bears wanted him on someone’s bench, PERIOD! They were very confident that Russ could beat out Fields.
The whole knock on Russ is that he couldn't win with a 29th ranked defense which is insane. I love the fact that Fields can sit a season out and learn behind Russ is golden
But he actually COULD win with that horrible defense. Russ in 2020 in Seattle led a worse defense to a 7-2 record. Sean Payton threw some of those early games, and then notably threw the Lions game and the Patriots game, plus at least one of the final two games of the year - which he did by benching Russ for no good reason. The 2923 Broncos were fully capable of winning 11 or 12 games. Payton didn’t want to! He was tanking at Russ’s expense. Sean Payton threw those early games, and then the Broncos front office had the nerve to ask Russ (try to coerce him, really) to defer his injury guarantee for a year so they could keep him around for the 2024 season without the risk of paying him $100M. Sean Payton should’ve done what he said he would do and designed an offense around Russ’s skills. He didn’t do that, which shows you how lazy he is as a coach. I have less than zero respect for him.
As a Steelers fan, I’m with you and one of the few lobbying Justin Fields has a redshirt year to learn behind Russell Wilson. He’s got crazy athleticism but that’s about it. None of these analysts are mentioning his throwing ability. All reports coming out of camps is that Fields has not been good so I don’t know what the media is hyping up.
Mike “Greeny” Greenberg is out of his mind. Notice how he keeps saying, “Nothing against Russ.” He has been called out for showing bias and looking like he has an agenda against Russ. Those ESPN commentators are crazy. The Steelers had access to both QBs at season’s end and could’ve easily gone after Justin Fields but targeted Russ because he was their priority. They were prepared to proceed with a QB room with Russ and Pickett. Fields had long made his preference for Pittsburgh known, and the Steelers already knew about that. They weren’t interested in him, even though the price was already low. And Greeny is also ignoring that the price was insanely low for a reason. People can cite Russ being cut, but most people don’t know that the Broncos wanted to keep Russ for another year. He refused to defer his injury guarantee to allow them to keep him without the risk of paying him $100M for one season. Russ knew refusing to defer was his ticket out of Denver, so he refused. In essence, Russ ostensibly dumped the Broncos! No, Payton wasn’t a big fan of Russ the person, but he would be coached Russ for another year…this time without trying to tank! The Steelers wanted Russ so badly that they told him to get early permission from the Broncos to speak with other teams, which was granted, so they could sign Russ before other teams had a chance to go after him. AND THERE WERE OTHER TEAMS LOOKING AT RUSS! Minnesota Las Vegas Atlanta Tampa Chicago Washington NYG Miami (possibly) Every team that might have either needed a new QB due to vacancy or has a young QB needing a mentor would’ve been interested in Russ. And if the new Seahawks coach hadn’t liked Geno, it’s possible that Seattle might have gone after him. Many Seahawks fans wanted him back! The Bears knew about it too. The Bears only found the Steelers to be an attractive trade partner AFTER Russ signed there. They wanted Fields on his next team’s bench. Now give it some hard thought as to why that was the case. Think about Caleb. Think about the Bears’ reason for trading Fields instead of keeping him to compete with Caleb. Think about what the Bears wanted to avoid. Hint: it’s what the Steelers are facing right now. The Bears only sent Fields to the Steelers to burry him on the bench. Why? They didn’t want the dumb noise the Steelers are dealing with right now. They certainly didn’t want Fields being QB1 somewhere and creating an artificial buzz over the first few weeks of the 2024 season. That would potentially affect Bears fans who didn’t want Fields traded, and it might negatively impact Caleb Williams’s confidence. The Bears wanted to send Fields somewhere where he would wind up on the bench, and they saw that opportunity when Russ signed with the Steelers. The beauty of it is that Fields had been asking for a trade to the Steelers, so it was good P.R. for the Bears to at least pretend that they were trying to look out for Justin! The truth is that NFL teams are BUSINESSES! Their decision-makers do what’s best for the organizations. Fields is in Pittsburgh because the Bears wanted him on someone’s bench, PERIOD! They were very confident that Russ could beat out Fields.
Julian I totally Agree with you. JF2 needs to take advantage of this opportunity to learn from RW3. Work on is pocket presence, footwork, Football IQ and anticipatory throws. Don't listen to this stupid media hype. The OTA's reports are accurate. RW3 is the present and JF2 could be the future if he works hard on his techniques and Football IQ.
Mike “Greeny” Greenberg is out of his mind. Notice how he keeps saying, “Nothing against Russ.” He has been called out for showing bias and looking like he has an agenda against Russ. Those ESPN commentators are crazy. The Steelers had access to both QBs at season’s end and could’ve easily gone after Justin Fields but targeted Russ because he was their priority. They were prepared to proceed with a QB room with Russ and Pickett. Fields had long made his preference for Pittsburgh known, and the Steelers already knew about that. They weren’t interested in him, even though the price was already low. And Greeny is also ignoring that the price was insanely low for a reason. People can cite Russ being cut, but most people don’t know that the Broncos wanted to keep Russ for another year. He refused to defer his injury guarantee to allow them to keep him without the risk of paying him $100M for one season. Russ knew refusing to defer was his ticket out of Denver, so he refused. In essence, Russ ostensibly dumped the Broncos! No, Payton wasn’t a big fan of Russ the person, but he would be coached Russ for another year…this time without trying to tank! The Steelers wanted Russ so badly that they told him to get early permission from the Broncos to speak with other teams, which was granted, so they could sign Russ before other teams had a chance to go after him. AND THERE WERE OTHER TEAMS LOOKING AT RUSS! Minnesota Las Vegas Atlanta Tampa Chicago Washington NYG Miami (possibly) Every team that might have either needed a new QB due to vacancy or has a young QB needing a mentor would’ve been interested in Russ. And if the new Seahawks coach hadn’t liked Geno, it’s possible that Seattle might have gone after him. Many Seahawks fans wanted him back! The Bears knew about it too. The Bears only found the Steelers to be an attractive trade partner AFTER Russ signed there. They wanted Fields on his next team’s bench. Now give it some hard thought as to why that was the case. Think about Caleb. Think about the Bears’ reason for trading Fields instead of keeping him to compete with Caleb. Think about what the Bears wanted to avoid. Hint: it’s what the Steelers are facing right now. The Bears only sent Fields to the Steelers to burry him on the bench. Why? They didn’t want the dumb noise the Steelers are dealing with right now. They certainly didn’t want Fields being QB1 somewhere and creating an artificial buzz over the first few weeks of the 2024 season. That would potentially affect Bears fans who didn’t want Fields traded, and it might negatively impact Caleb Williams’s confidence. The Bears wanted to send Fields somewhere where he would wind up on the bench, and they saw that opportunity when Russ signed with the Steelers. The beauty of it is that Fields had been asking for a trade to the Steelers, so it was good P.R. for the Bears to at least pretend that they were trying to look out for Justin! The truth is that NFL teams are BUSINESSES! Their decision-makers do what’s best for the organizations. Fields is in Pittsburgh because the Bears wanted him on someone’s bench, PERIOD! They were very confident that Russ could beat out Fields.
Justin Fields has done nothing....whats insane is what you are spewing. The fucking kid played in Chi who Never in thier history developed any qb and is the only team in the NFL (and one of the origional 4) who have never had a 4k passer for a season....yea it was justin fault.....smh.
Let’s put it like this: Russ would’ve done more in Chicago over the past three years than Justin did. With Russ, the Bears would’ve been a playoff squad all three years, and they knew it. Thats why they offered the Seahawks everything but their grandmothers’ kidneys to coax the Seahawks into sending Russ to Chicago, and why the Seahawks refused the offer. Russ had the right of final refusal on all trades, but the Bears attempted to trade for Russ and the Seahawks didn’t bite. Guess what QB would’ve theoretically been available as one of the picks from Chicago. Thats right! Justin Fields. The Seahawks didn’t want him then, and they didn’t want him this past winter when the Bears again approached them.
Mike “Greeny” Greenberg is out of his mind. Notice how he keeps saying, “Nothing against Russ.” He has been called out for showing bias and looking like he has an agenda against Russ. Those ESPN commentators are crazy. The Steelers had access to both QBs at season’s end and could’ve easily gone after Justin Fields but targeted Russ because he was their priority. They were prepared to proceed with a QB room with Russ and Pickett. Fields had long made his preference for Pittsburgh known, and the Steelers already knew about that. They weren’t interested in him, even though the price was already low. And Greeny is also ignoring that the price was insanely low for a reason. People can cite Russ being cut, but most people don’t know that the Broncos wanted to keep Russ for another year. He refused to defer his injury guarantee to allow them to keep him without the risk of paying him $100M for one season. Russ knew refusing to defer was his ticket out of Denver, so he refused. In essence, Russ ostensibly dumped the Broncos! No, Payton wasn’t a big fan of Russ the person, but he would be coached Russ for another year…this time without trying to tank! The Steelers wanted Russ so badly that they told him to get early permission from the Broncos to speak with other teams, which was granted, so they could sign Russ before other teams had a chance to go after him. AND THERE WERE OTHER TEAMS LOOKING AT RUSS! Minnesota Las Vegas Atlanta Tampa Chicago Washington NYG Miami (possibly) Every team that might have either needed a new QB due to vacancy or has a young QB needing a mentor would’ve been interested in Russ. And if the new Seahawks coach hadn’t liked Geno, it’s possible that Seattle might have gone after him. Many Seahawks fans wanted him back! The Bears knew about it too. The Bears only found the Steelers to be an attractive trade partner AFTER Russ signed there. They wanted Fields on his next team’s bench. Now give it some hard thought as to why that was the case. Think about Caleb. Think about the Bears’ reason for trading Fields instead of keeping him to compete with Caleb. Think about what the Bears wanted to avoid. Hint: it’s what the Steelers are facing right now. The Bears only sent Fields to the Steelers to burry him on the bench. Why? They didn’t want the dumb noise the Steelers are dealing with right now. They certainly didn’t want Fields being QB1 somewhere and creating an artificial buzz over the first few weeks of the 2024 season. That would potentially affect Bears fans who didn’t want Fields traded, and it might negatively impact Caleb Williams’s confidence. The Bears wanted to send Fields somewhere where he would wind up on the bench, and they saw that opportunity when Russ signed with the Steelers. The beauty of it is that Fields had been asking for a trade to the Steelers, so it was good P.R. for the Bears to at least pretend that they were trying to look out for Justin! The truth is that NFL teams are BUSINESSES! Their decision-makers do what’s best for the organizations. Fields is in Pittsburgh because the Bears wanted him on someone’s bench, PERIOD! They were very confident that Russ could beat out Fields.
@@JWLSports Justin Fields * Name in the NFL Record Book between Lamar Jackson & Micheal Vick * Cleats in the NFL HALL OF FAME during his FIRST FULL SEASON as a starting NFL Quarterback... ...the same season the Bears GM traded or released every starting caliber player on both sides of the ball to TANK... IS proving something my friend. The only point you've proven is that you've never watched Justin Fields play & you definitely know nothing about the conditions he played in. But keep repeating the b.s narratives 😂
Coming from a Bears fan who watched almost EVERY Justin Fields’ game, I am not surprised to hear that he’s struggling in training camp. He does not throw people open or throw with great anticipation. He’s a one read take off 🏃🏾 QB
Facts Lamar never won a SB lol. But Russ did!!! Lol never in history has a running black QB to EVER win a super bowl. The only blacks QBs that won a SB are D. Williams, Patty Mahomes and DangeRuss. QB aren't RB ya hahaha. Mahomes won his SB because he could throw the ball. Media is so stupid lol. Justin in Chicago sucks, Justin in Pittsburgh he's good Wtf is wrong with these so call pro analysis.
Here the facts about everything one ESPN..ESPN host and Co host have absolutely no idea what every team in sports is doing or what every player in every sport is about in detail...This is why their ratings have dropped and they had to "Layed Off" a ton of people..I learned just from doing my own research by going directly to the teams city beat writers who are in the locker rooms and at practice that I got a better understanding of what Players and teams are doing then ESPN...ESPN is "General Information" about sports...the dont do the details...
Green once gave a speech that Fields would be the Chicago Bears greatest franchise quarterback since Sid Luckman. Obvious, Green doesn't know his butt from a hole in the ground. He was wrong then and he's even more wrong now. He's a very unsophisticated and boring sports analyst.
If Justin Fields is such a Bum; Then explain why the NFL Players themselves said how good he was and rank him in Top 100 Players. I didn't see Russ or Trevor Lawerance ranked at all.
In Chicago Justin went thru two offensive cordinators and had no line and maybe one receiver. He has a NFL record that probably never been broken so to say he is not that good. I love these guys who don't know the players their talking about. Their like weather people they can be wrong and they would never admit it done the road. Plus your calling the Pittsburgh coach a idiot. Another guy who probably never played football
Julian, it does make sense but do not forgot NFL history it normally takes 3-5 year for QB to learn how to be QB in the NFL, there very few QB come into the NFL and start right away flame out. look at Green Bay's love he waited his turn and learned how to be a QB. Fields just need more time.
I'm a Fields fan, I know he's in the best situation he can possibly be in leaving the Bears. He should sit back and watch Russ and learn but I think he will be alright. I think you are correct in most of your assignments except
actually, the reports out of camp is that he is late on some throws, not all. get it right... you really don't understand what the Bears OC's did to JF. NO, JF will be the starter in 2025, not this year..
You know Caleb Williams last year held on to the ball the most in all of college football and it was by like a full second or more.. so he can't learn to throw the ball quicker? And I give fields a break because he came from the dumpster which is Chicago.. he also dealt with multiple coordinators too.. to say he can't learn that stuff to me is ridiculous cuz then why did he even get drafted then
I totally agree with you. Chicago screwed up Justin. He needs to relearn the game. Russ became available at a low price. Justin will sit behind Russ and learn. If all goes as planned, Justin will eventually replace Russ as starter IF he improves his game.
I believe that Russ has more potential than Justin at this time...The most important thing to understand is that the Steelers are trying to be a physical team that uses the run to setup the pass so you need a game manager at QB...the Steelers will get less touches on offense with this philosophy so the QB has to make every offense possession count...Russ is the better option to do this than Justin at this time...the Steelers may be able to develop Justin into a good game manager but that's going to take some timeso I would go with Russ
Let it play out yall the season has not started yet Russ gonna make a lot of people eat crow. Russ had nothing in Denver but Sutton not ever his coach with hie high school play book.
people that talk crap about fields obviously only look at stats and have never watched the games. For the 3 years JF was with the bears we had the worst O line, the worst O cordinator and a group of "skilled" players that would have a hard time making other teams practice squads. Look at what the guy did with an actual team in ohio state. 41 TDs and 3 Int with almost 70% completion percentage. Anyone that watched JF in the bears game quickly realized he was the best player on a team full of dog shit
BF1 (bearsfan1) here. I really wanted JF to succeed in chgo, and he made some super exciting plays; however, he was waaay too inconsistent; no qb instincts, no anticipation, and he struggled reading defenses. When JF got hurt and Bagent took over, there was huge drop off in athleticism, but better "quarterback" play. JF didn't have "it" with the bears. But I wish JF nothing but success.
I don't disagree with the team for getting Russ. The comparison of Lamar Jackson is spot on, and I believe the Steelers can be successful piggybacking off the Ravens play scheme. Justin has the potential to be that guy (Lamar STILL isn't know for throwing the ball accurately, so his success can be Justin's success, too), but maybe not this year. He's the best backup QB in the game.
The onus is now on Justin Fields, he has to learn how to read coverage, that's the key to everything, throwing with anticipation, and accuracy would all be cured by Justin reading coverage and reacting quickly & correctly to it to throw to the holes in coverage, the fact that he hasn't yet been able to is the biggest issue with Justin being a starting QB in the league, as a Bears fan I thought if he could just learn to read coverage he'd be a top 5 QB with all of his abilities, but after 3 years, all I hear from him and his fanboys are excuses, well if he can't learn it in Pittsburgh behind Russ, he never will. Justin's a good kid, but know he's the only one accountable for his future in the NFL.
The problem is it’s been known that learning to react and process quickly is not something that can really be learned. As Kurt Warner has discussed before.
They wouldve been braindead to pass on russ for a mill. Even if hes only there as a backup! Lmao they were paying Mitch waaay more and Russ is lightyears better than Mitch
Russell Wilson is beyond average compared to alot of other quarterbacks in the league! You are confused because you sound like someone who knows nothing!
You kinda need those people in the same room to have a debate. You’re talking to yourself young man. And riding on the coat tails of shows that people actually watch.
Russell Wilson will start the season, remember the end of the season is going to be tough! I think Tomlin with replace Russell Wilson when they lose a couple of games in a row at the season.
The late throws that your talking about if they’re the same as the ones Bell was talking about was part of a drill according to the coach they call route god. Get your facts straight.
Justin is still raw.neither guy is a true pocket passers but Russ has found away to make a career improvising.i trust Russ more and actually I think there's a chance it might not work.
"Any team would be willing to grab russ in that regard." Then why was the price so low, and why were there no other takers? And why is Denver willing to eat that contract for the next 2 years?? Any team???
@@JWLSports The teams that needed a QB drafted one. That's greenies point. If the Steelers knew we had a chance to get a guy with the upside of fields at that price, they would have put their eggs in his basket, at least for this year. Stealers aren't contenders this year, or any other year for that matter, with Russ.
Justin has never been given a chance in a winning situation. Just looking at what Chicago has done shows that they see the error of their ways. He doesn't have much more in the way of weapons in Pittsburg, but at least he has a tall number one. Josh allen didn't arrive untill he had a good number one and he had a great defense and decent offensive line. Russ has a higher floor. Justin has a higher ceiling and I would think the steelers would like to have him as a succession plan. Russ first 8 weeks and Justin last 9 and beyond if he can get the offense down pat.
He’s being given a chance right now, and he’s not measuring up. Russ is just flat out better, and by a lot. Just accept it! And it isn’t like Russ has played on the best teams over the past 8 years. His teams were garbage but he still dragged them into the playoffs every year but 2017 and his 2021 injury year. I won’t even count Denver because I knew it was a mistake to go there when he did it. He made an impulsive decision and it blew up in his face.
He’s being given a chance right now, and he’s not measuring up. Russ is just flat out better, and by a lot. Just accept it! And it isn’t like Russ has played on the best teams over the past 8 years. His teams were garbage but he still dragged them into the playoffs every year but 2017 and his 2021 injury year. I won’t even count Denver because I knew it was a mistake to go there when he did it. He made an impulsive decision and it blew up in his face. Quit with that bs cliche’ about Fields’s ceiling being higher. If Justin Fields has a higher ceiling, tell me what that ceiling is! What is he going to do that Russ either has not done or cannot do?! I want you to back up that argument with facts! I say Russ is 100x more likely to win a SB over the next five years than Fields is, and the man has broken too many records to count, with his arm ABD his legs! So, what is this higher ceiling we are talking about?
Aarron Rodgers 2022 Season 26 TDs 8 Ints 3500 Yds / Russel Wilson 2023 Season 26 TDs 8 Ints 3500 Yds. Russ is a better player than Justin Fields, Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubisky. With this Defense and New OC, Steelers will be in the AFC Championship!
@@MrFreshEdition You mean the worst healthy year Rodgers has had when he got beaten by the Lions and missed the playoffs at 39? You’re comparing that year to a bunch of stats that are incredibly misleading about how Russ played last year? Do you have no shame?
Glad we were able to revisit this. Week 2 and Justin still the starter. You said it was nonsense? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is NOT about Russ calf. Also, you’ve proven to yourself that you are INSANE! 😆 All jokes aside, we’d love to see an apology video. Pittsburgh #1 in the division because of the guy who aren’t proven, did prove why he was ranked the #1 player in the Nation out of high school. Big 10 POY, Heisman runner up, Elite 11 MVP. Tell Kirk Warner y’all were wrong. Make your apology as loud as your hate. This is coming from a guy who lives near Justin in Georgia and watched him since high school. My nephew team beat him in his Netflix QB1 show
lol uh. What? 😂 Russ is literally hurt. That’s why Fields got the start. And if you think the Steelers and fields looked good on Sunday and are going to win the division I don’t know what to tell you.
Russ is on his way out. He met with a few teams before Pittsburgh picked him up because NO ONE wanted to grant him QB1 and that's including the Giants. Fields also had 3 to 4 teams calling for him but HE chose Pittsburgh. It's inevitable. I've listened to your arguments regarding J Fields, and it's obvious your disdain for the 25 year old. It's easy to speak on Russ history as a veteran. I respect what he's accomplished. You conveniently failed to mention J Fields #1 Qb out of high school to beat out Trevor Lawrence, who was around 30 miles apart from one another in Georgia. After leaving Georgia to attend The Ohio State B, losing to T Lawrence (Clemson) then beating him his senior year for the National title. Goes to the rebuilding Bears who doesn't have a frontline or weapons. Was under two Head Coaches and two Offensive Coordinators within 3 years and now this will make his 3rd HC and 3rd OC, meanwhile the Bears now decided to try and place Caleb Williams in a much better situation by supplying him weapons by trading during THIS off-season. Russ can't see over the frontline because he's 5'9 (they give you two inches). Drew Brees was at least 6'0 and can see over the line. Fields situation is miles better in Pittsburgh than Chicago. Stability! A staff who knows what to look for in players and how to squeeze water from a rock. Pittsburgh is oy using Russ as a buffer for the long-term option they see in Fields. But what I'm going to do, is eep your page in my pocket. When this season plays out and Russ is sitting, Fields is playing (playing well), I'm going to make a video with you in it! 😂
Russell Wilson is guaranteed to be the starter week 1 which was a condition of him signing in Pittsburgh ...Steelers have a huge incentive not to play Fields more than 50% of the season because of draft compensation ...these are the dynamics of the situation
@@DeCurtaRican I can understand where your coming from going off the Chicago record ...understand that the Bears have a tradition of losing & ruining QBs ...Fields by far have a better arm & legs than Wilson plus he's young ...Wilson at 36 is on his way out the league so it's kinda difficult to imagine him being the franchise QB ..as a Steeler fan I really hope they both do well
You’re not confused, just bias. Russ is a wee man with waning athletic ability… the Seahawks, the Seahawk. In athletics it’s about what have you done for me lately or at the least what is your “upside”.
Where’s the evidence of his waning athletic ability? I want measurables! I can cite evidence that he’s as sharp as ever, and he can still run. He rushed for 340 yards in 15 games last season on mostly non-designed runs, while playing for a cua h who was trying to tank and an O-Line that couldn’t block up a toilet half the time. Russ could easily rush for 500-600 yards this season. And his arm is still one of the best in the game. Look at his efficiency stats. He still has a deadly deep-ball and is still as accurate as ever too. He had a passer rating of about 140 on deep passing in tight windows. He was top-5 and top-10 in several passing metrics last season, and he made 4 of the 5 least probable pass completions f the score season league wide. No Mahomes, no Allen, no Stafford, No anyone else even close to him. Purdy had the other pass. So, where’s your EVIDENCE that Russ has lost something?
You think Fields has a better chance of winning the Steelers’ toughest games when he can’t even beat out Russ and engender the confidence of the coach and players that he can win the easy ones? I’m trying to picture the coaches saying, “Fields wasn’t good enough to start during the less challenging part of the schedule, but yeah, let’s throw him in during the meat of the schedule and see what he’s got!” Are you serious?! 😒 Fields needs to worry about holding onto his #2 position, because Kyle Allen is no scrub. Right now, K. Allen is better than Fields. All Fields has is athletic ability, and the slight athletic advantage he has over Russ isn’t nearly enough to compensate for all of the other advantages Russ has over him. Russ even rushed for 340 yards last season in 15 games with the lowly Broncos on mostly non-designed runs. In this offense, look for him to get near 600 yards!
@@DeCurtaRican 😅 OK I can see your a Russell Wilson fan ..I don't hate the guy but here's my beef with him ...is it true that he rarely ever use the middle of the field?? Kenny Pickett was known for that, TEs & slots need to eat ...his lack of size probably have something to do with that ...his success in Seattle I mostly attribute to him being the game mgr of the Legion of Boom & Marshawn Lynch ...Russell Wilson did commit one of the biggest chokes in NFL history losing that Superbowl ...gifting Tom Brady an extra trophy ...so if Seattle & Denver ran him outta town, what the deal?? Its been documented that too many players on both those teams don't like him ...like Marshawn Lynch, Richard Sherman ...regardless I do hope he do well in Pittsburgh ..a 1-year rental
Your scenario ignores that Russell Wilson because of his age may no longer have the skill set to do what he has in the past or what is needed of him in this offense. Russell Wilson is no longer a running threat. Maybe that is why others are on the Fields bandwagon because of the dual threat that he is. It may not be how you want to see a offense run but it is very difficult for defenses to keep a offense like that in check. The biggest issue for either qb is scoring. Steelers had one of the lowest scoring offenses last year and Fields is not as good in the red zone.
Russ ran for 340 yards in Denver last season in 15 games on mostly non-designed runs. That was with a coach depressing his stats. Russ can still get a team 500-600 yards, but even 300 yards is more than respectable for a QB. And his arm is still one of the best in the game!
Fields hasn’t done a single thing to demonstrate that he’s even franchise QB material, let alone good enough to unseat a guy like Russ. *Justin Fields’s 3-Year Career Stats (advantaged metrics in boldface* Pass attempts: 958 Pass completions: 578 Completion%: 60.3% TD-INT: 40-30 Passing yards: 6,674 Passer rating: 82.3 *Rushing yards: 2,220* (vs. 1,327) *Rushing yards/yr: 740* (vs. 442) *Rushing TDs: 14* (vs. 7) *Rushing attempts: 356* (vs. 245.5) *Rushing y/a: 6.2* (vs. 5.4) Sacks: 135 Sacks/yr: 45 Yards lost: 908 Yards lost per sack: 6.7 Fumbles: 38 (11 Lost) On pace for 152 fumbles over 12 seasons with 44 lost. Career 4th quarter passer rating: 53 _______________________________________________ *Russ’s average over a 3-year period (based on his career statistics. Advantaged metrics in boldface)* *Pass attempts: 1,416* (vs. 958) *Pass completions: 917* (vs. 578) *Completion%: 64.7%* (vs. 60.3%) *TD-INT: 84-26* (vs. 40-30) *Passing yards: 10,913* (vs. 6,674) *Passer rating: 100.0* (vs. 82.3) Rushing yards: 1,327 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 7 Rushing attempts: 245.25 Rushing Y/A: 5.4 *Sacks: 132* (vs. 135) *Sacks/yr: 44* (vs. 45) *Yards lost: 866* (vs. 908) *Yards lost per sack: 6.5* (vs. 6.7) *Fumbles: 25.75 (8 Lost)* (vs 38 w/11 lost) *Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104* (vs. 53) Fields has a slight advantage in rushing. Russ is superior in every other department. That small rushing advantage isn’t nearly enough to compensate for Russ’s superiority as a passer, especially if we discuss 4th quarter metrics. If wediscount Russ’s Denver years, Russ’s 3-year average stats would be better than Fields’s by an even larger margin, even if we include two injury years in Seattle (2016 and 2021) that produced outlier statistics. While both take a lot of sacks, Russ has taken them due to bad/inconsistent O-Lines and pure stubbornness on his part. Fields takes them more because he isn’t a great reader of defenses. His O-Lines have been better than Russ’s. _______________________________________________ *Russ’s Career Statistics* Pass attempts: 5,665 Pass completions: 3,668 Completion%: 64.7% TD-INT: 334-106 Passing yards: 43,653 Passer rating: 100.0 Rushing yards: 5,307 Rushing yards/yr: 442 Rushing TDs: 29 Rushing attempts: 981 Rushing y/a: 5.4 Sacks: 527 Sacks/yr: 43.9 Yards lost: 3,464 Yards lost per sack: 6.57 Fumbles: 103 (32 Lost) Career 4th quarter passer rating: 104 *Keep in mind that Russ’s career statistics include two subpar years in Denver.* Both years skew Russ’s stats negatively, especially 2022, when he threw just 16 TD passes and missed two games.
Imo, everyone can see Russell is cooked. its why the Seahawks moved on, its why the Broncos moved on, its why he didnt get a LTD with Steelers. I think the writings on the wall and Justin is there to step into the starting role while Russ takes a backseat at some point. Who knows when? Well, the Steelers were smart to make the 4th rd pick conditional on Justin playing 51% of the season... with their bye week in week 9, they can start justin in week 10 and still only give up a 6th
