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Esports is Not The Model; is The People | Grassroot  

Sebastian "Adico" Quintanilla
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Competitive scenes in gaming are sometimes reduced to the underlying quality of the game. If a game is terrible, it has no esport scene; if it's excellent, it will have one. This reduction is not entirely wrong, but it fails to account for what, to me, is the most crucial aspect of esports: the people who actually create the scene.
In this video, I explore the core philosophy that esports is about the people, not the overall model, specifically as it relates to Stormgate and other titles.
Stormgate Tournament Collective: / discord
00:00 - Intro
00:49 - The Product, The Service, The Community
03:17 - Grassroots Esports
08:09 - Who to Turn to
11:32 - Esports is You, Me, & Them
15:10 - The Best way to Begin is by Beginning
23:56 - Above All Else, Be Patient

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22 июл 2024

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@Snoxtar
@Snoxtar 14 дней назад
I remember waking up at 6-7 am on weekend and playing with ~300 ping on TANC APAC, or staying around 2 am (before i fell asleep) to also play a bit in TANC AMER just to add that 1 more player to the bracket and contribute myself. I'm really looking forward to all upcoming Stormgate tournaments, no matter of their size, time or server. Keep up the good work with TANCs and everything else ^^
@jacoblong2676
@jacoblong2676 16 дней назад
adico the goat fr
@jerryb216
@jerryb216 14 дней назад
I like to think of the difference between community vs product as the difference between (some) speedrun communities vs the big esport events. Obviously some of the larger speedrun events are getting big enough to want/need sponsors and all that, alot of it is very small and just a big passion project. That's what makes a good scene in my mind, having a great time not really the money.
@3dartquest
@3dartquest 12 дней назад
Can't wait for this game, finally new RTS!
@hupsaiya
@hupsaiya 11 дней назад
Liked the video a lot. Unfortunately its a massive investment of time for an either unexpected, or no show pay off.
@sagacity1071
@sagacity1071 14 дней назад
If you make an rts to be an esport youll make a bad product. Make a great rts and people will be eilling to take it seriously.
@SebastianAdico
@SebastianAdico 14 дней назад
That is correct, and I don't challenge anything from that statement except the last part. There are many great competitive games out there without competitive scenes. By the same token, there are scenes out there for games that are hardly seen as competitive, yet they developed into it, like geoguesser or Farming Simulator. It's easy to offload the responsibility of creating an esports ecosystem to some "other" group or person. After all, if the game is good, then surely someone will make tournaments, right? But as I state in the video, if the game is good, you, me, and others, should be conscious of the fact that we are contributing to these see and ask ourselves if we want to contribute more. Being a great game is 80% of the way to having an esports scene, but the game alone cannot carry that last 20% of the way.
@razorback9999able
@razorback9999able 8 дней назад
However, devs fear that if they didn't design an RTS to be an Esport, it'll fail.
@Yayadays111
@Yayadays111 11 дней назад
the game also needs to be interesting to watch, especially for big leagues, which it just isn't imo. They probably want to push it to big leagues so they can get more investors money or more public awareness. They pretty much designed and budgeted it to be a big game. Is it attracting enough people? Personally I think the hype is mostly gone now, the marketing screwed most of it up. Should have saved some money and focus on releasing a complete game done for PvP, instead of EA and live service
@SebastianAdico
@SebastianAdico 10 дней назад
Totally fair, but i think in part the issue of making a game watchable can be fixed by the community. Either by way of creating tools themselves (see for example CaptureAge for Age of Empires 2, which began as a community project), or by adapting their presentation to be more enticing (Tetris and Excel for instance). Also, its worth noting that FG has yet (to my knowledge) drop money on esport. Not that they have not spend any on it, but from my understanding they are not trying to push esports via direct investment as say for instance Riot or Blizzard would.
@Yayadays111
@Yayadays111 9 дней назад
@@SebastianAdico I won't disagree casters can make or break the entertainment value. But the game just isnt that exciting to watch. Even the SC2 broodlord infestors era, there's still plenty good interactions prior to the late game. Imo the main issue is they plan to have some kind of scene this year, when the game is still pretty undercooked. The creep mechanics don't feel impactful and almost like a tacked on mechanics etc. most likely it will ruin first impression and set back any type of major eSports scene potential until grassroots shoes there's a consistent high viewership.
@AHappyCub
@AHappyCub 2 дня назад
Esports is the worst thing to happen for game balance because pro players inevitably bitch and moan about every little detail to end up ruining the game for literally everyone else, Rainbow Six Siege is a good example of that
@Mymommy42069
@Mymommy42069 День назад
Most boring game ive ever seen the world has gotten lazy and no one has any creativity
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