As part of their I Love the 1990s series the BBC talk to Louise, Kelle, ex-manager Denis iIngoldsby and other figureheads from the decade about the girls career throughout the 1990s. Originally aired in 2001.
Funny watching this and Denis Ingoldsby being all 'What destroyed Eternal was themselves'. His track record after them with Honeyz and his complete ineptitude with managing girl groups suggests otherwise!
I agree. If the girls weren't going to be managed properly, separation was inevitable. Toxic splits are so unnecessary. People's mental health is at stake but most of these money-hungry managers see is controversy sells papers. Seeing a line up who fans loved fall apart is hurtful for them - not as devastating as for the artists whose identities have been shattered but still disappointing for fans. So a big thumbs down to bad girl group managers.
@@sirjaya2534 I think bad managers full stop, but especially for girl groups. You watch stuff like this, and also The Big Reunion and when Steps reunited and one thing is common to all of them. Managers that had no business managing people that were still quite young and delicate to begin with when they joined these bands. Not all, because there are some exceptions, but they are all the same. Chris Herbert (who originally managed the Spice Girls before they chucked him for Simon Fuller) was abysmal looking after Five and Hear'Say. Nigel Martin Smith likewise with Take That. Tim Byrne DATING H from Steps and pushing him to the front of everything. And Lou Pearlman with NSYNC/Backstreet Boys? Let's not even go there 😒
I agree with this i believe Denis didn't do a good job of keeping the girls together. He did a horrible job of neutralizing the miscommunication between them. To be honest I believe he wanted Louise solo from the start and put it in her ear to leave the group, look at how he was going on about her looks.... he gets a major side eye from me
Louise was the Justin Timberlake of the group.. Wasnt the best vocally but could hold her own and visually stunning and could dance! I feel she loved being with the girls but also knew she could be the main character on her own which is understandable.
The four of them were perfect together. Eternal wasn't the same once Louise left, and it's a shame because before the Spice Girls they showed that a diverse group could be successful.
@@jeniestra. for me the issue is recognition. Ask people if they can name an all saints song and they can but can they name an eternal song? Less likely. So how is it a more successful but predominately black group are less remembered in society than the former?
@@asmrfoodieuk7965 But recognition doesn't equal quality, if we only talk about music both groups were great. As for recognition, All Saints had a more diverse audience than Eternal and they were far bigger around the world. I'm saying this as someone who is from South America, Eternal got some sort of recognition around here in 1997, while All Saints were everywhere since they started until 2003 or so.
That lady @6:07 asked the RIGHT & ONLY question: "Why didn't Easther & Vernie do it by themselves from the beginning cuz they clearly didn't want the other 2 there & they were the main talent??!!". I've often asked this about Destiny's Child & Beyonce. Hell --- even Diana Ross & the Supremes!!
No personality You'll notice the lead of most groups don't actually have much personality and the others do the talking. This was the same with Destiny's Child. Beyonce couldn't compete with Aaliyah, Brandy and Monica cause they had personalities
Easther was the best singer out of the group and its not like they put the group together in the first place they didnt have a say in what decisions were being made the manager who put them together even said he want like a gospel/pop type of group the sisters provided the gospel sound to the group while Louise and Kelle added more of a Pop touch to the sounds tbh Michelle comes off abit flakey here considering she was best friends with both the sisters at one point but hey
i wish kelle Louise and vernie sung more Love easther's eternal was all about the sisters they clearly didn't Want kelle in the band Anymore after Louise left
There is still hope yet - i think had covid not happened we'd have heard an announcement for a tour or something by now with Louise. I dont think its far off. They are all in a good space now.
I'd be surprised if the tour restarts. I think they need to concentrate on the new album and look at promoting that the best they can. Hopefully that will give them the opportunity to look at exploring the possibility of a future tour once new music has made an impact.
I think the other two members didn't want be back up singers because in sum of thier performance you always see the sisters do the lead not other 2. I think that why they left. If the sisters had voices then why do a group for?
The manager Denis whatever his name is.... putting the blame on the girls why the group ended then years later same thing happened to Honeyz, another girl group he managed.... I'm like dude you shared the blame for both groups's demise.
A guy i know was working in circles involving the band and he told me that Louise had to leave because the band wanted to crack America and at the time a band with a mix of black and white girls would not be accepted
@@MIMI232 Yeah I can totally imagine that she felt left out especially going to places where people don't acknowledge that she's even part of the band. It appeared to be all about the sisters really, so her and Kelle probs didn't have much say.
That’s funny. The Spice Girls became huge around the same time but America accepted them because their group was predominantly white, with one black member. Eternal was the other way around, and the Louise stuck out like a sore thumb to society. It was for the better anyway, she found success on her own.
Louise wasnt the best singer but her girl next door good looks and easy going charm made her the star of eternal.which means she had to go in those vile sisters eyes 😂😂😂😂😂
Louise needed the group for her entry to showbiz and fame and then she trashed them last year in the worst way possible... leaking stories to the press and enabling trolls against them to promote her flop album. Louise is also vile because she doesn’t support women, girls and vulnerable children. Read the Cass report!
