ETG: People fired, discord shut down, and everything has gone wrong 

This is why I LOVE the WolfQuest devs! These people are SO DEDICATED to the game, they read every comment and are constantly fixing things. They are listening what the community wants. And that's what made an absolutely GORGEOUS game in the end that is still being updated and bettered after almost 10 years

a million thanks for posting this. us moderators and ambassadors are so so so grateful. we love you ❤

With SSO & ETG going downhill it makes me paranoid about all the other upcoming horse games. SSO & ETG are just like them, they all start as the best game that has ever existed and because of greed or criticism, their community falls apart. I’m so scared something like that my happen to Astride or Tales of RR. We have to hope for the best and I think we’ll all be so happy when a horse game can finally pull it together! Sorry if this comes as harsh, this video really showed me a ton of stuff I didn’t even know we’re actually happening so, thank you.

DO NOT contact, attack or harass the developers! Although everyone is still angry at the moment, these are still people and we should respect that. Also, APPOLOGIES for the quality, my program gave me some trouble! Please support: FAFA gaming, I used their footage for this video to cover my ill b-hind. Please watch her video! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UNLolqKw28g.html EDITS I made a few errors in this video 1) Not 2.8 millions dollars but around 250 thousands. I didn't read the numbers right. Sorry! 2) What I meant by the horse nerfs, it's essentially false advertising. It gave one impression when it really was something completely different. 3) The trolls at the end were NOT the harassers, that came LATER from other players. The people in the thread were NOT sending death threats. This whole situation is tragic, and I don't think there is much of a come back from this. A lot of damage has been done and it will take a long, long time for people to forget what happened or even to forgive. If I did get anything wrong, don't hesitate to let me know and if you have a story to share from the other side don't hesitate to send it along! I'm always open to hearing what happened and if I missed something, I'll be sure to correct it. Despite everything, ETG does have potential, so let's hope this story has a happy ending.

You deserve so much more exposure, your content is addicting and so in-depth.

I really was waiting this video since I saw the discord explode. I was like " wait.. what's going with ETG?? Thank you so much for your work . (Btw I really enjoy the memes in your videos) I am really into this game but after that.... I feel Bad for giving money to people who abuse their staff like that... It will not happenned again unless they change(I doubt about It...). Support and love to the Mods, Ambassadors and Players who have been pushed away by the game for just telling good critisism

A million thanks for posting this. I wondered what was going on, but not being apart of the discord I never would have known without this video. Thank you for informing everyone outside of the situation what was going on and revealing the truth to us all.

Thank you for yet another great video, Rattle! I had heard of all this going down in the ETG community and felt really disappointed, although I didn't really know the details of it. Really appreciate you covering all the important parts and breaking it down perfectly, just like you always do. I am glad I didn't spend that much time on this game and I will not come back to it in any near future. The developers ideas were great - execution not so much. Perhaps one day Kavalri Games can create a better game and learn from their mistakes. One can hope!

Okay. I have so many things to say. First, and I will also end my comment by this to keep some good vibes : Your videos are always so well written, so well edited, your researches are incredible, you show evidence, you have good arguments, and you know what you talk about. Your calm voice is very pleasing to hear and the memes you add are a good way to process the informations we just heard. Thank you for that. Now, I would like to say a few things about this : 1 - I wasn’t aware of this situation, since I am a French player, and after SSO’s dramas… I decided to take some distance with game communities. I guess I was right. But I still looked on Instagram and RU-vid videos of players. What does this show, then ? That they were really good at keeping everyone silent. And it pisses me off. How would they think it would end well ? 2 - They do not learn from other’s mistakes. Who am I talking about ? SSO, obviously. I feel like ETG has a very childish state of mind. It really seemed they were competing against SSO on so many points. And yet… they didn’t learn from SSO’s mistakes. SSO has this tendency of not listening. They don’t silent us, but it’s the same result. The feedback isn’t taken seriously and they say « don’t like it, leave it ». Here, with ETG, it’s even worth since they showed directly that they don’t want us to speak, wether it’s an ambassador / moderator or a player. It will drive people mad to see their efforts taken down. It will drive people mad to see they’re silenced by the devs themselves. And I do not get how they couldn’t foresee that. I cannot get how they could not see this coming. 3 - ETG wants validation and they’re scared it will not work out good for them. All they want to avoid will happen because they wanted to avoid it so badly. They look really stupid doing that. And once again, it is a very childish way of handling things. Overall, I was frustrated the whole video. I wanted to comment so badly, but I waited until the end. ETG’s dev team is very immature and they keep on not listening, as SSO, they want to show they listen (but they don’t), as SSO, they keep on closing their eyes on the problems, as SSO, just to keep on living their dream of a perfect game everyone would love. Spoiler alert : life isn’t a fairytale, and bugs happen in games. It doesn’t make it a bad game. Constructive criticism doesn’t make it a bad game either. It shows how people are invested to talk about the problems that could be fixed. ETG failed keeping you silent, and now it’s going to be a mess, like it has become with SSO, if they don’t change. I am sorry I kept bringing SSO here, but they are so related, mostly because ETG claimed (not clearly but in a more « subtle » way, aka not saying it out loud) to be a better game than SSO, in the near future. ETG will never become a good game and it will fail soon if they don’t change now. It is more willing to disappear than other games because it’s quite new and it has no emotional connection. RPGs have this power to be almost unforgettable because of the lore, no matter how it evolves, because people will get close to the characters and start feeling attached to them. Here ? Nothing keep us on the game. Not the first horse we get. I had to sell mine really quickly. Not the competitions. Not the trail rides. It’s boring. Even breeding is boring. When you get a foal with a good potential, you have to train it aaaaaall the way. And it takes weeks, even months to do that ! I personally do not have the patience to wait this long. This is why I think ETG is going right on the wall. And I am getting sick of those game devs that want to shut us down, and don’t even realize we are the reason this game is still living. They never learn. Anyway, thank you sooooo much for this video. It was so well made, I loved it. I was looking forward to it, and I took my time to watch it and respond to it. From the bottom of my heart, thank you. You informed me on a situation I had no idea about and I am so sorry for all the ambassadors, moderators, and beta players who were silenced by ETG. Thank you for your hard work, I love it and it was oh, so worth it. ✨

Hi! I just wanted to say something about the trailer nerf. My trailer has been very good these past two weeks and I just wanted to share the horses I have gotten from the trailer. 710 Cob, 722 SWB, 721 Arab, 721 SWB, 720 SWB, and a 727 SWB I just got today. I have also gotten a few high potential foals. A 725, 727, and 732. I don’t know if this is only happened to me, but I just really wanted to share it somewhere since the discord is down. Thank you so much for making this video, I was a bit confused on the whole situation, so thanks for clearing this up.

Hi! I really want to thank you for posting this, It makes so much more sense! Also, ik this has nothing to do with the video, but If I bought the season pass, would it work for all seasons or only Season 4?

I’ve played this game every day for three ish weeks with kids at the barn. It’s become our after barn routine when chores are done and everyone looks forward too it as soon as we get of the horses. It’s such a shame this is going on because it had so much potential.

This is amazingly good! Thank you for putting down so much effort into this Rattle.

I got blocked from their Instagram years ago for having valid critiscm. My cousin was a beta player and got kicked for sharing a screenshot from the discord where people were trash talking another girl I talk to on Instagram who also had valid critiques and basically begging the devs to block her too (which they did) any time you tried to say anything you got dogpiled by people for even daring to have a difference of opinion on something. I still wonder whatever happened to Goldy. She seemed to be the ring leader. I wonder if she even realized as well. This community and the devs have ALWAYS been toxic and it is so refreshing to finally see other people realizing it as well.

Thank you so much for posting this! ❤

Thanks for being such an awesome youtuber!!! Youre adressing the things that need to be heard whilst being open for the other side of the story. You have so much info gathered and putted it out for use to see and form more of the full picture instead of the things they want us to see. Please keep doing it. For the sake of the horsegames (al games in general tho) And for the sake of the players.

This is amazing! Thankyou for addressing these problems and helping others understand what has happened. I completely agree with every point made. You have made true clear, concise points which are truly eye opening. I don’t think anyone could project this issue as well as you did. Thankyou for giving us voices and a platform where people can talk about these issues. I’m so dissatisfied and disappointed in this game considering the amount of money I have put in. I would take it back if I could as I’ve realised I don’t want to support this game anymore. Thankyou so much for this video it is eye opening. You can tell you have put a lot of thought into this video, voicing your opinion meanwhile being respectful. Well done to you👏🏼💓😍

The time 1:42 is how I look at SSO and ETG and their decisions

i’ve been playing since the release in nz, been following the instagram since 300 followers, supporting for YEARS. i can’t believe this is what the game turned into. i’ve been so confused as to what is happening with the discord and i’m disgusted by the behavior of the dev team and hope they can either get their shit together or get out. i don’t know how any one can support a dev team treating their mods and ambassadors like that.

I remember when I was checking old server log on ETG discord, and noticed the *ton* of negativity in it, even though it was clear as day, hardly any moderation action was done, it scared me and made me think the moderation was not good and something *was bound to happen* soon, didn't suprised me when one day I saw discord's notification and see that it was Molly saying the discord is gonna be closed, I still didn't know the whole of the story though and I'm glad you made this vid Rattle! thanks a lot for the exposure.

Another entertaining and informative vid, Rattle. I've already placed in my review and hope even if it's small, it'll do a world of difference someday as a whole with the community of ETG. I loved this game, but it's so broken, I just had to uninstall only three days, and when I peeked back in to see if I could ask about how I could get a glitch fixed, I saw a war coming, and so I fled before it broke out into its worst form. It's a pity, and I feel sympathy and pray for all those suffering beneath these times in horse game development.

Its crazy how easily some of the biggest issues with this game could be fixed which would in turn end up making them more money. Simple tweaks would make the game SO MUCH BETTER

Couldn't have said any of this better myself. Thank you for making this video and speaking up for the playerbase.

Witnessing so many kinds of drama within the horse gaming community, all I can do is laugh at the ridiculous nature from the devs. It is such a clown show that innocent mods and ambassadors have the unfortunate position to bear.

With the words of SidAlpha: "Welcome to the dirty devs. I hope you enjoy your stay."

The amount of times I got told off and laughed at in that discord for sharing my opinion is insane 😭

hi rattle! I just wanted to give you a small correction; 3million sek is akin to 290 000 dollars, not 2.8 million! this of course has no bearing on the rest of the breakdown of what has happened and the video makes great points without this number being correct, but as a swedish person myself I knew this number sounded way off cause the krona is quite a weak currency haha, so just wanted you to know! I realize this is an old video by now but either way. I have to say, I don't play horse games myself but I came across your channel and the way you break things down in an entertaining yet clear way keeps me oddly invested in horse games I've never played. keep up the great work! c:

I can't believe I am saying this but SSO listens to the community more.

i was just about to think about getting back into ETG but now i dont think they deserve US. ETG may have been a good game if the devs actually listened and weren't so stubborn and arrogant 🙄🙄

You literally should be paid for these videos damn all your research.. wouldn’t know what to do without your vid’s!

After seeing all this I made the decision to leave the server and uninstall the app from my phone... I don't support companies who act this way! Thanks for making this video!

I never knew this was going on thanks Rattle!!

Lmaooo I literally got an ad for the game while I was watching this video 🤣😭

I was really disappointed in ETG Ttbh

I haven't watched this yet, probably will later on in the day but honestly, when I joined their Closed Beta, I was HUGELY, freaking disappointed. I discussed it with others that knew game development ((was mostly curious)) and it was bare bones ((bare bones is my opinion and not theirs)), Alpha stages. There was next to nothing to do and imo, when you say Beta, the game should be nearly completed and ready to go public. This was no where's near ready to go public, even a year or two later it's STILL not ready imo and I eventually got bored of it after a week or two of game play, roughly. Now with all of this? I knew there was some shady shit going on, especially when they did their Patreon and it barely lasted. This needs to spread wide and far, people still White Knight this game and try to defend the devs from the backlash they caused with causing friction with the mods/helpers/ambassador.

Wow I did not know there discord was that bad, I had thought about possibly joining it awhile back, but decided not to just cus well the game didn't look all that great to me I'd be following the IG account since day 1 more or less but slowly loss excitement with there soft launch and just found myself loosing interest with it wow a new fun game that I can't play in country yay. Also Kinda of glad I did not join because I could so see myself getting banned just cus have a naturally snarky and cynical sense of humor which could probably be misconstrued as negativity when I'm really not a negative person my humor just comes across that way. Also just can't stand the toxic positivity I've noticed so many horse games have sso has this issue and I'm not sure why forcing everyone to be happy all the time ends with the game stagnating and your players turning quite cynical towards you look at sso very few players stay happy with the game. That being said I do hope things can improve for this game and its developers in the future.

I knew this was gonna happen when they banned me from the server for giving critique. Loved the game, Such a shame this is.

The game all together has been nerfed ,if you look back at how the game was before Halloween it was much smaller but much better at the same time ,even the graphics of the game show the lack of communication! I really hope they fix these problems by addressing the them and listening to the positive and negative feedbacks, if anything negative feedback are far more important as they are the key to development !

So I don't know or care about this game at all, I just find learning about this sort of drama to be a bit engaging, especially if it involves devs being jerks to people who honestly they should be paying. Hope things get better.

i shouldn't spend money so soon on a game. i was so positive about ETG... i supported them by paying already more then €50,- but if i knew it would be like this, i wouldn't have done that. such a shame

I knew this game was too good to be true the moment I saw previews of it. I'm only sorry that innocent people got burned in the process of its failure. The devs of this travesty make sso look like saints.

Okay BUT, you can't expect pay for being a mod. I was admin on the biggest Rammstein server on Discord with 5.000+ members. I have spent ENTIRE weekends, late nights, hours and hours on end, moderating, sorting out member drama, dealing with drama in DMs, people talking shit etc, but we NEVER expected any pay for the 1000s of hours we put into it (as admins and mods). Being mod or admin is unpaid work, it always has been. It's something we do because we care about the community. We NEVER got appreciation or thanks, except from the community itself who would sometimes remember to thank us for our free work lol. I ended up leaving because I was too dedicated and spent all my free-time admining the server, which took a huge toll on my mental health. I never got any payment or even a bonus like early access or discounts. NO thanks, no compensation. You know this when going in. I don't think you can whine about not being paid as a mod because mods just never are. That can't come as a surprise. The rest of the video I agree with, just not that part.

I am stuck in a tutorial on one of my accounts and I talked to the team a month ago about it and even got the key still hasn’t been fixed

I saw it coming man, I really did. This is why I am so glad I never invested my time or money into this game. As soon as I saw the disabled comments on Instagram and read their whack ass description, I knew something bad had happened and I was seriously infuriated by they way they stripped players of their voices and I have never even played nor downloaded the game! Thank you for spreading awareness on this, because people like me would have been left still very confused.

So many countries missed out on the “best” of the game, we missed 3 season passes. This is such a horrible situation, for the poor moderators and ambassadors. I had the game for a week and deleted it because I just couldn’t deal with the lack of content that was there in the beginning. So glad you made a video. I saw the discord server becoming “chaotic” and rightly so. I left a few days ago, I can’t imagine a company not open to constructive criticism or honest feedback. Disappointing.

It’s good to see a horse game RU-vidr! This genre is quite neglected, and it’s awesome to see someone actually give an honest opinion on games rather than just giving them useless points because “it’s the best we’ve got” And thanks to you I’ve been following Astride for a while!

I’ve read every single message on the official Discord server since this broke out. I’ve talked to many of the people involved. I’ve been banned from ETG’s Discord server myself for leaving one (just ONE) constructive message where I respectfully said that they weren’t handling the situation the right way. I’m so frustrated, so fed up… I don’t know what to do anymore. But THANK YOU for making this video and informing people of what has happened. I’m hoping this will have a considerable impact. Also, just one thing; I feel like the focus at the beginning of the video was a little bit wrong. Being a moderator / ambassador for a game is voluntary work and how much time/effort you put in to it is totally up to you. I talked to several of them and they never expected any pay. I just think you put a little too much weight on «Them not getting paid» when that’s never what they expected either. The devs did nothing wrong there. The issue was gratitude and acknowledgement, not payment. Otherwise, perfect video. Again - THANK YOU.

This is so heartbreaking. The mods and ambis deserve so much love and acknowledgement. I think I speak for everyone when I say we truly appreciate you guys and the work you put in. It speaks volumes to me how Molly tried to do damage control *after* kicking everyone out - when it was easy, when she didn’t have to work with others and confront her mistakes. She would rather try and save the defamation of her character than connect with and support those around her. She treated her staff just how she treated the game, without care. I believe that the “community etg fb page” is run by the same team because I got banned for having a difference of opinion with the owner, it wasn’t even a criticism, she just thought I should have posed my picture differently 🥴 and they also have the same “be positivity or get banned” rule. This was incredible coverage Rattle. Not only was the research extensive but the deep dive into toxic positive and the effects it has on people and as a community is such an important thing to be aware of. Absolute masterpiece, thank you for speaking up - arvella

Wow.. just, wow. I had no idea this was going on behind the scenes, and honestly I wish I was there to help support those who were being silenced. Moderators and ambassadors, I hope you are all doing well and we send you all a BIG virtual hug!

This was amazing. It just mind blows me how they went from really acting like they care as a horse game to become so paranoid when someone gives constructive feedback. I witnessed a lot of the shit that went down once the mods and ambassadors started speaking up and it’s just disappointing in general that this is how ETG handles feedback. Since experimenting the game for 5 days a while ago the game itself was just shitty and it was shocking bf considering how much they were showing in the beginning but once you actually touch the game you experience the flaws more especially with the controls, graphics, etc. There’s no excuse for them to just hide behind muting and locking down a discord sever to be positive and for me in my opinion they just made the discord more unsafe because of how it turned into a dictatorship prison more than a safe place because of how ETG handles constructive feedback horribly. Thank you for making this💗 and in general I hope the game gets better, but in my opinion it could potentially die this year if they don’t face it. They can’t run away forever and that’s only gonna keep shooting themselves in the foot more if they don’t try to anything. I also hope the people who were treated like shit know their worth and not experience something like this again because ETG as a company was unfortunately shifty and the truth says it all

its sad this always happens with equestrian games with promising starts... so unfortunate!! thanks for the video explaining everything!

BAHAHAH- wow! Ever since your OG video about ETG, I backed off from my thoughts about investing in the season pass, or trying to support the game with my own $$$ & I'm so glad I did! Can't believe they handled this situation like this. All the terrible things that happened behind the scenes- Just WOW!

So disappointing, the game had so much potential ):

Now they get to taste their own cooking for sure. I don't know whether I should laugh or cry about this. All we can do is sit back and watch them come crashing down. There's no saving or recovering from this. The devs' behavior is truly laughable and not tolerable in any shape or form. They are the cause for the fall of their own game and community. I declare Equestrian dead, rest in peace.

I was Silverheart in this situation (I have no reason to hide it), I can say that it was hell watching everything go to shit and being silenced for something that could have been so easily fixed. We were shut down, told our criticism and polite suggestions were null, and banned when we grew tired of it all. It's... Depressing, to put it lightly, that the game and devs that I grew to love proved to be nothing but shit and horrible beings. The game itself is beautiful, but it's bugged and the people that run it, corrupt.

I can't believe how this all went down, from such a promising horse game that many of us have been so excited to see. And it simply cracked because the Devs refuse to LISTEN and COMMUNICATE with its community. Push blame around, silence people and then shut the whole thing down. It's so disappointing that I'm kinda glad I didn't get the game until Global Launch and have yet to spend any money. No way would I want to fund a game that shows such disrespect for its players and the people that help them. Thank you so much for posting this and telling the the truth of the whole situation. This shouldn't be hidden, I don't wish harm to the Devs or the team but hope they get their act together.

Been bingeing your vids all day! Saw all this drama go down yesterday and my only thought was “omg I cannot wait for Rattle’s vid” From your vids on SSO to ETG I agree with your opinions all the time. Such well thought out and planned vids. I love it. And your humor is top notch. I was so excited for this game and followed the development of it for a while. When I first got to the actual “gameplay” it felt empty and lifeless, the controls were also so difficult to use. Getting further into the game I also discovered it’s very much a “pay to win”. Such a disappointment. It was deleted the same day it was downloaded. All this coming to light just tells me I made the right choice of not keeping the game. ‘Equestrian The Game’ more like ‘Equestrian The “So Freaking Difficult To Control I Wanted To Throw My Phone At The Wall” or ‘Equestrian The Lame’ cause it rhymes Sad I feel as if there is an awful curse on horse games Someone grab the sage lol

So let me get this straight- going from player to ambassador to mod is seen as an honor by the devs, something you have to earn. So basically you do all that work and they reward you by having you do more work for free? Whoever thought of that sounds pretty full of themselves- like they thought the title bestowed by them would be compensation enough for all the hard work.

Kavalri: *Fire in eyes* “You do not spark JOY.” *deletes them* But in all seriousness: Yikes. Toxic positivity is just that: toxic. It’s the most useless thing to ever exist. I mean, you can’t appreciate the sunshine if there are no rainy days. And putting that kind of pressure on anyone is never okay. Accept that things might not work at first, accept that less then favorable things might happen with the game, and then work through it. Game design is an art, it’s a science. It takes collaboration and going back to the drawing board. Embrace the messy side of it because in the other side is a great game that many will love forever. And the messiness will make that victory that much more worth it. Messiness means it’s a real and you’re onto something if you keep working through it. Don’t be afraid to be perfectly imperfect. Too many people and games try to be perfect and all smiles, but’s it’s the ones that dare to be imperfect that are the special and cherished games.

i remember the european launch and how helpful the community was. every stupid and repeat question we had they answered individually. I was so impressed that it stuck in my mind after that. Awful to see what was actually going on behind the scenes of this amazing community and how they were treated.

Beware of copyright abuse the developers could try and issue a copy write claim through youtube to unfairly take this down. Wouldn't be the first time a company has tried that though. It's fairly easy to prove invalid claims though so be sure to appeal if they do try and get it taken down.

The ending is truly fascinating. Many people speak up about the mistakes of someone else or accuse people of something they did or sometimes didn't. But this one video particularly proved to me that there is still faith in an exposure. You didn't just try to call them out, to warn people, to accuse them of things they did or didn't. Instead of going all negatively up in the moment, you give them a second chance and took the words of so many others into your call and I'm sure many really appreciated that.

I first played the game when the global launch, I thought it was pretty interesting for about 3 days until I realised it was quite boring. Also as you mentioned it was released elsewhere first, so those that played first will always be further ahead which gives an unfair advantage on scores. I uninstalled it not long after you made your first video about them. When breeding came out I got it again to see what it was like, I deleted it again, Immediately. You have to wait HOURS and DAYS? For a 90% chance of getting a crappy “ foal”. It’s such a shame, this game had/has such potential. But with high prices on items, no chance of getting coins ingame, hours of waiting for breeding, boring repetitive courses, jumping bar glitches and more. I have not got much hope that this game will improve.

this is ridiculous... and the game seemed to have so much potential. but it's so typically swedish... toxic positivity yay ._. (from a swede, yes)

The crazy thing is the mods never asked for compensation. All they wanted was communication which is completely free. These mods must be angles. I do things for free like do comissions of art for free and I look back and think I should have charged and I do not stay up all night for years answering questions. The patience they all had is incredible. Also the instagram comments are turned off on Instagram (probably other socials Im just not on them) which is like putting all the players in a time out and I am so fed up with this game and for me its only been out a month.

This is so crazy I can't... like ETG was that one game (when in development) that actually looked promising! The Devs took their time to actually show the process of this game before launching just to create a shitstorm??? Unbelievable! I was never part of the discord and I'm glad I wasn't cause I would've lost my shit. Thank you Ambies and Mods for actually running this whole discord and standing up for yourselves!

I was silently in the background for this, and this sums it up correctly. I am so sad this keeps happening to Equestrian games. I wanted this game to replace SSO for me (I’ve been playing SSO since 2013ish) and it seems to just.. always happen to equestrian games. ETG is digging itself a deep grave, and unlike SSO, it doesn’t have the ‘age’ or history with it’s players to pull through this. Not to mention my horse trailer is level 8 and my highest horse level is like 430ish 😅, kinda salty in general.

I mean what were they expecting? The game literally needed criticism. It looked released unfinished anyway. Poor people involved in all this discord hostility. So glad I uninstalled the game only 10 minutes of playing it.

I saw this coming from a mile away. The game isn’t gonna make it to Christmas tbh. The in game prices are ABSURD, it’s clearly a money grab. It lacks hella content, they reuse jumping courses. They have stats in game that are completely irrelevant as of now. It’s been MONTHS you’d think we’d at least have racing or something

Can Horsegames just get their shit together at this point? Like SSO is bad at a lot of points but this....bro. no My last hope is astride

It’s so sad, I only said my opinion on my story like two days before, when everything exploded on Instagram. And when I said that I feel like the team is spreading the lies and the negativity. After a few Hours I got an dm from the team’s community defending them telling me I was an ugly ass b¡tch and telling me to go f*ck myself. They just proved my point. I hope etg is happy with the community they are building for themselves, because I'm no longer in it, I’m in the players community, the people that always support each other and that accept criticism. Thank you for all the work everyone did for our community, I love you all 💕!

Beautiful video, it so well explained and analyzed. It’s so hard to find the right words and you did it really well. I truly hope that the mods and ambs will get a recognition and an apology. Thank you again for your words Rattle and have a nice day

Lmaooo I was one of the first 30 OG beta testers. I played the game properly twice? A half-dozen times maybe (which amounted to creating a character and a horse, buying four others, buying all the tack available, creating tacksets and going on a trailride). It was okay for like, three days but then there was nothing else to do, so I went back to SSO and resolved to come back in a few months to see if there’d been anything added. (BTW I hate discord, can’t make heads or tails of it, too complex for my analogue brain, but the discussion in the server was not game-related, just chatting about real life and general small talk, blegh). I came back to the game a few months later post-update and my account had been wiped. Nothing remained, not only was I back to square one, but the only bloody functionality they’d added was incomprehensible training and jumping. Wow. So worth it. And it was still buggy as hell and downright difficult to play. I muted the server, vaguely observed Instagram posts from afar and haven’t touched the game since. And I *was* regretting it until this shitstorm broke out. Jesus. Do you recommend Rival Stars? I played that right at the beginning too, got bored and abandoned it but subsequent hype is making me want to revist. Is it worth it? Big fan of your channel, love your honesty. Frank discussion is always the best policy! Fuck Molly. Sean is a saint and must be protected at all costs, as do the rest of the exmods and ambies. Lol if I’d bothered I’d deffo have been super high up when all this shit broke out and I’d probably been one of the first to tell Molly to fuck off and get booted. _Missed opportunities, eh?_

I had no idea ETG was facing these problems! Holy shit.. Oh well, I'm uninstalling the game, I don't want to support these kind of people. Thank you for bringing this to our attention Rattle! Keep up the good work! - EXPLODO

Molly reminds me of some of the communities, that say you're either doing everything wrong, or outright just breed toxic towards outsiders and usually insult them. And, pretend that putting xxx on the end of a sentence fixes the insults.

I have to say this... if you can not handle constructive criticism... you are not ment to make a game. You have to listen to the community and learn from everything that comes your way. Thank you for making this video Rattle. It was really needed. I only play this now for the breeding and honestly the rest.. is boring. Well made video and I ended up watching the whole thing and I was shaking my head the entire time 🤣❤ R.I.P 🤣

THANK YOU for posting this. I sadly regret having bought season passes, as I had no idea this was going on behind the scenes. I will not support the game further. At least not until they issue a formal apology to all parties involved, and compensate them for everything. Which is highly unlikely.

Thank you for sharing this! I am one of the ambies that got kicked for no reason at all, even when I asked Molly why, she didn’t give me a reason. So thank you!!❤️

Not going to lie, I saw the sketchy approach that Equestrian had going pretty early on. The awful cosmetics you get at the start of the game, microtransactions, battle pass ... I will say though, I did one single time spend ~10€ to unlock the Nordic Battle Pass, because it had a lot of cosmetics I liked, and I only got it once I have already unlocked all rewards so that I wouldn't have any grind left after the purchase. At the time, I was happy with the game and I felt like I could give the devs those 10€ as a way to show my support. But I kept noticing how shameless their advertising was. Molly's Equestrian RU-vid "Let's Play" really only was meant to advertise the ingame cosmetics imo, and their Instagram "memes" seem oddly aimed towards children although they claim to make the game for adults. It's a shame, really. The game has a lot of potential, but I'm afraid it will die sooner or later with how it is being mishandled by its developers. I still log in daily just to collect those daily log-in rewards and maybe get a couple of coins or even a cosmetic that is worth several of those, but the current repetitive gameplay and the underlying knowledge of how the devs are acting really doesn't make me wanna play the game with particular enthusiasm anymore.

This is starting to make me feel that almost every horse game always ends terribly 💀

Please do a follow up video of ETG in it's current state! It's an absolute wreck, I don't even play anymore, I'm just eating popcorn and watching the show unfold.

I was a member of the discord before the game's launch, as a patreon supporter, and I left the server because of this exactly this, the cult-like energy that every criticism or bug report would be piled on with platitudes from what seemed like random players. I presume they were ambassadors, but at the time anyway, there was no title or anything for them so it was frustrating to report something for the Devs and have what looked like just another user, who clearly only had the same amount of information as I had, respond to me when they didn't actually have an answer for what I was reporting or asking. I never gave any of them abuse but I'd say for a lot of the abuse they got, it could have been helped by the Devs singling them out, giving them a more visible role and, most importantly, actually giving them more information than the general userbase already had. Also the toxic positivity is just always yuck.

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I just experimented what you said. I post a comment on the live chat of their season 5's trailer. All i said was just "All this for this ?" and guess what ? They deleted my comment... A real shame because i followed this game's devellopment and i see it fall in the pit of censorship. A great disappointment, i even regret my positive review on the playstore. Back then, i felt like they were listening, since a few moments after my review when i said that the tutorial wasn't clear, the improved it. But not anymore. It seems like they don't give a f**k about their fanbase, they just want their own vision and money.

Second comment but I really hope the devs see this. As you said at the end, the community and game isn’t doomed just yet. People are so passionate about this game and offer all this criticism because they WANT it to be better. They want to help make it the game the devs envisioned. The game is unfinished, but it has potential. But it’s never going to get any where if the team refuses to admit the abuse some of the most integral people suffered, and the silencing of the people who are playing the damn game.

This is seriously disappointing. I feel very inclined to not support the company or game unless something changes. I sorely regret putting my time and money into the game, especially how the creator is treating their workers and players.

For those that did not get their patreon rewards or who spent money and didn't get anything, many can open a claim with paypal. If enough members do this- Paypal will attack the company as a scam company. Easy way to shut them down.

Oh god!! That’s awful. I had no idea any of this was happening. I feel so bad for spending any money on them! This is so unfair and they shouldn’t treat people like this. Thank you for bringing this situation to the attention of the public in such a good way.

This is exactly why people who cannot handle criticism or even outright negativity SHOULD NOT be putting themselves in positions where they need to be able to receive any kind of feedback. Especially from large communities that they are CHOOSING TO SERVE, and ESPECIALLY online communities. If you cannot handle the discourse of having your work criticized, then you have no business making videogames. It's really that simple.

I followed the development of this game for two years, and I played it the day of the global launch. It looked like a really fun and cool horse game, and I and I'm sure everyone else was really excited about it too! It makes me so sad and disappointed that after everything, this is what the game ended up like. I really want to like this game. Everyone does! I guess some people just don't understand that players give criticism because they want to see a change for the better, not because they want to be bullies. I really hope that things will get better some day. smh

I genuinely enjoy your videos because I can't find anyone else who talks about these horse games/animal game genres and actually reviews them in a critical way. It's good to have someone who at least knows something about games, and apply them to these niche genres. Still can't believe all this shit went down in the ETG server. Not sure if you intend to strictly do horse games, but I'd highly recommend you covering Stray. Since most people coming to your channel like horse/animal games, I'm sure some would appreciate it and I would love to hear what you have to think on it!!

Watching this rn- I don't have much to comment but I wanna comment early Editing!! Yeah, I've had this feeling stuff would go this way. So far only 1 3rd into the video, and it just feels like they were trying to create something similar to the RWBY fandom where they'll defend the shitty show for their life. Just collect white knights and gain money as long as they could. Halfway through the video, this is just a ball rolling downhill. SSO kind of downfall speedrun lolol 1 3rd of the video left, yeah it seems like "be nice or get kicked" Nearly to the end, there's a saying in my language that roughly translates to "The longer a cat chokes the harder it scratches." I think it fits.

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All that I 'am hearing from Molly is "The beatings will continue until Morale Improves!"

People who think of constructive criticism as "bullying" have no business being devs. If you get THAT much anxiety from even the *slightest* hint of criticism, maybe YOU are the one who needs to step back. Good grief.

I can’t believe I thought about investing money into this game. If this is the way they treat the people who are volunteering time for something they are passionate about then these devs don’t deserve a single cent from ANYONE

Hey Rattle, thanks for the shout out from my channel with the clips from my videos and such, and mention in the description is appreciated. It truly is a shame what has happened, and I will be making my own POV on this situation in the next video I do. Very well presented video and informative for those who were not in the discord and didn't know what was happening!

ETG making sso look like a saint.💀

I agree. Really poorly managed and created game. Am not surprised.

I played one day until I realized how expensive it is. I removed it and won’t go back