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Ethernet Cable Comparison - with music samples! 

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Well... yes: we are comparing some ethernet cables this time. With music samples.
The track we use: Jack Johnson - Sleep through the Static - Angel. It is the MQA version from Tidal.
Cables we compare:
Stock CAT5e UTP
Audioquest CAT700 Pearl - installation cable with Telegartner plugs
Audioquest Cinnamon (5M)
Shunyata Venom
Shunyata Delta
Shunyata Alpha
Check the lossless samples on alpha-audio.net. Or this direct link: cloud2.alpha-it.nl/index.php/...

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@chewy560
@chewy560 3 года назад
Std Ethernet 2:05 Audioquest cat700 Pearl. 5:06 Shunyata Venom 7:59 Shunyata Delta 10:48 Shunyata Alpha 13:54 Audioquest Cinnamon 16:53
@Kirk_Wood
@Kirk_Wood 2 года назад
To be honest the standard ethernet cable sounds the best. The sound difference I'm hearing might just be the extra change in my pocket though.
@warmtoiletseat5596
@warmtoiletseat5596 Год назад
There is *zero* difference. It's a proof that Audiophiles have no clues how digital audio works and what Ethernet frames are. They also overlook other significant factors such as tilting their heads, atmospheric pressure, humidity, amount of earwax, mental state, how that affects the tone. Audiophiles are like flat earthers in this context.
@elderinmoi1571
@elderinmoi1571 4 года назад
Every video from you that I saw was really worth watching. Tx for the work. I check out your shop for shure. Coming from Cologne it won’t be out of reach.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
Thanks! But we are not the shop (i think you mean Alpha High End?). We are an independent review website... ;-).
@admiraldanny6171
@admiraldanny6171 Год назад
Scramble them and not one audiophool could pick out the Alpha. That’s a vid to make!
@hermanvisser4034
@hermanvisser4034 2 года назад
This is a really interesting test. Great video.
@marknachmias423
@marknachmias423 21 день назад
I recently swapped my so so ethernet cable (better than stock) for a Kubala-Sosna Elation ethernet cable. It made a huge difference. Highly recommended.
@bluesteelbass
@bluesteelbass 3 года назад
For your home made CAT7, did you terminate the shield on both ends of the cable, or only the end plugged into the optical to ethernet converter? This is why the cables have a direction - not because the electrons travel faster one way, but due to which end has the shielding terminated.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
Yes. I did. And you are correct.
@clayandrews131
@clayandrews131 3 года назад
Thanks so much, that was a great comparison.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
You are very welcome!
@edwarddejong8025
@edwarddejong8025 2 года назад
Since Ethernet is a digital protocol, there should be zero difference between cables. You can ask your ethernet port to report the frame errors, and for decent cabling it should be zero. If the exact data gets from point A to point B on all cables, then any hearing difference you hear is imaginary. For a given data rate, you will either need cat 5e, 6, or 7 cables. Since you can go to gigabit speed on cat e5, and it is highly unlikely that this audio equipment goes beyond 1Gbit (only very fast PC's have 10g ethernet), People selling fancy ethernet cables are full of nonsense. Digital protocols are not like analog. There are quality differences in terms of how thick the copper wire is inside; some of the cheap chinese cables uses copper that is just a tad smaller than it should be. The thinner wires will not sustain as many bends before they crap out.
@joachimmagnusson3128
@joachimmagnusson3128 2 года назад
Wash your ears or go to a doctor
@MiguelPeixotobaptista
@MiguelPeixotobaptista 2 года назад
@@joachimmagnusson3128 take your meds or go to a psychiatrist. But make sure it's an "high end, pro grade, low noise, gold plated with diamonds" doctor, maybe he can give you some placebo for you to take.
@tinytownsoftware3837
@tinytownsoftware3837 Год назад
@@joachimmagnusson3128 Sigh. I'm a software+network engineer. I can tell you with 100% certainty that a $1 ethernet cable will transmit the data the same way as a $1000 ethernet cable. The software protocols involved (TCP) ensure that the data transmitted is always a 100% carbon copy. Your computer literally checks to make sure that it not only received all the data, but an exact copy If not, it requests it again until it's exact. Not to mention if you stream music (lossless or not), through the internet, those bits travel through hundreds of switches, not to mention hundreds if not thousands of miles of cables. You're telling me that the last 1 foot of cable makes all the difference? Get. The fuck. Out of here.
@dg.candido
@dg.candido Год назад
Man, I understand the technical part just as well as you, but the thing we're missing here is that this is an extremely easy money making market! You just put some jibber jabber and pseudoscientific terms sprinkled and an absurd price, and people will die to have your product.
@eduardochantos1573
@eduardochantos1573 6 месяцев назад
​@@tinytownsoftware3837no men, no matter how much one tries to explain this ppl the basics of electronics they will keep insisting it makes a "very audible difference" 😂 this is just madness
@rabbadatz
@rabbadatz Год назад
Fantastic work. This is how to do it.
@milanmihajlovic8569
@milanmihajlovic8569 19 дней назад
No1 cable std ethernet was generally good. Audioquest was the most open, lively and presented the best. Shunyata was not my taste and I personally would not have chosen it over the std cable. Audioquest was the clear winner and I especially liked the Audioquest cat700 the most.
@CassioRogerioEskelsen
@CassioRogerioEskelsen Год назад
People here in the comments swearing that there is a difference in the audio in digital signals transmitted by ethernet cables end up explaining to me why there are so many people who fall for scams like cryptocurrencies and NFTs.
@ArchDragoon-Arm
@ArchDragoon-Arm 2 года назад
Either through ath-dsr9bt or creative x3 + eclipse hd I just can't hear any difference at all. Maybe my ear is too bad or this is just a nonsense mystery.
@MoreoMorales
@MoreoMorales 4 года назад
What exactly is this test? If you copy a sound file from a source, will it be different on the receiving end?
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
It is pure for listening. Determine for yourself if you can hear a difference. Audio is more than 1's and 0's. Yes: ethernet is package based. And no: there is no data corruption. You can read that on www.alpha-audio.net as well. We written serveral articles about that.
@MoreoMorales
@MoreoMorales 4 года назад
@@TheAlphaAudio OK, thnx. So, it's the influence of the Ethernet cable on all devices upstream? I'll read your site: what's best article to start with?
@AlexSpivak
@AlexSpivak Месяц назад
Thanks for the great cable comparison. The sound differences can easily heard but only if one listens thru a high quality equipment (digital out -> DAC -> good speakers or headphones). To my ears the Shunyata cables sound better, more natural and balanced, and Delta & Alpha are the best. I wonder which version of Delta did you use: the original Delta or Delta v2 ?
@Burevestnik9M730
@Burevestnik9M730 3 года назад
What exactly is the network topology here?
@joseauger1353
@joseauger1353 2 года назад
In order to be comparable, the Audioquest cables that should be used are the Diamond and the Vodka. These two are in a similar price category as the Shunyatas.
@dude7740
@dude7740 4 года назад
good job! thanks!
@Smood47
@Smood47 3 года назад
Are those the rode m5 mics ? Also why don't you put them at the listening position ?
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
Those are Rode TF-5 microphones. Microphone response (and thus placement) is different from your ears. Every microphone has a sweet spot in terms of placement / distance / etc. This is (in my opinion) the best - most neutral - spot for the TF-5.
@Smood47
@Smood47 9 месяцев назад
@@TheAlphaAudioHey what kind of mic do you think sound sommelier uses on his sound demos when he walks around ?
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 9 месяцев назад
@@Smood47 I dont know. I think I recognized a Zoom in one video.
@Coolesttech
@Coolesttech 4 года назад
What media converters are you using for fiber to ethernet?
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
DeLock...
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
alpha-audio.net/background/a-fiber-network-for-audio/
@patrickmeylemans9627
@patrickmeylemans9627 3 года назад
A direction on an Ethernet cable which is using CSMA/CD protocol??
@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 3 года назад
Nice to see you using a proper DAC. I love Metrum Acoustics, and own Adagio, Ambre, Forte, Aurix and Musette :)
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
That's a very nice collection! :-). We own the Pavane, Adagio, Ambre, Baby Ambre, Flint and Amethyst. Love them all. All the same signature.
@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 3 года назад
@@TheAlphaAudio It's great to see Metrum back in Cees hands. I am so excited to see what plans they have.
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 3 года назад
Define proper Dac ?
@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 3 года назад
@@r423sdex I favour the presentation of NOS DACs.
@davidluke3289
@davidluke3289 2 года назад
@@r423sdex Undefine it, since you’re standing under the shade tree ready to start your chainsaw.
@biliescu
@biliescu Год назад
what kind of optical converter do you use? Thank you
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio Год назад
We use Delock converters with FS modules.
@biliescu
@biliescu Год назад
@@TheAlphaAudio thanks
@rwmschei
@rwmschei 4 года назад
Bijzonder, dat er zo’n enorme verschillen in 1m kabel kunnen zitten..... dat verrast mij toch wel weer 😮 Mijn voorkeur zou uitgaan naar de Shunyata Venom, zonder dat ik mij verder in de kabels verdiept heb. Voor mijn smaak klink die het best. De instrumenten komen mooi los van elkaar, het klinkt heel evenwichtig, maar ook het meest realistisch ... voor mijn gehoor dan. Zangstem en instrumenten zijn grijpbaar. Mooie test 👍🏻
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
Dank!
@tamil.f.3734
@tamil.f.3734 4 года назад
I love your channel! Yesterday I watched the power conditioners demo. I could not believe what I was hearing. I wanted to like Audioquest because I had my eyes set on the Niagara 3000. I played it over and over in disbelieve. Even on my Macbook Pro speakers I could hear the difference and loved the Shunyata. Now the Audioquest vs Shunyata cables show the same pattern. I love the Shunyata sound. I think I want to bring it home with me 😍Erg bedankt!
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
Thank you for your kind words. And great we can help!
@connorduke4619
@connorduke4619 Год назад
Excellent review, and the differences were clearly audible moving up the price chain of each brand. I wonder if you have hear Dutch brand Tubulus ethernet cables yet as they get good reviews without charging exorbitant prices.
@kreuner11
@kreuner11 Год назад
That must be placebo effect, all compliant Ethernet cables guarantee exact bit transmission, this is digital after all, all it matters is that the 1s are high and 0s are low and it will give you the sane audio
@kreuner11
@kreuner11 Год назад
Not to mention the sound still goes through your own speakers and the creators microphone and RU-vid compression, how can you be sure of anything
@HHTTRRNN
@HHTTRRNN 10 месяцев назад
Agree 100%, unless the cables are transmitting noise to the streamer that is getting over into the analogue signal. @@kreuner11
@arlenesauder1913
@arlenesauder1913 Год назад
40 years has an audio file ,I’ll tell you right off there’s some cables that after you move them around don’t sound their best
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 7 месяцев назад
Cinnamon has a very slightly boxed in sound and very slight coloration compared to Cat 700 and Shunyata Alpha. So I give the best marks to both the Audioquest Cat 700 pearl and the Shunyata Alpha. To choose a winner would require me to have them in house for a comparison. Thank you for the video. This really saves a lot of time and expense.
@oddmagnusbjerkvik5119
@oddmagnusbjerkvik5119 2 года назад
If this should provide differences, so would your computer connection to internet also provide. Just the idea that anyone makes a test like this says alot about the lack of understanding of the theme. You are not streaming audio, you are streaming data. If you take out the network cable during playback. How long does the music last? And does it detoriate?
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 2 года назад
I have said this 1.000.000 times... It's not about the data. It's about common mode noise.
@oddmagnusbjerkvik5119
@oddmagnusbjerkvik5119 2 года назад
@@TheAlphaAudio And how much common mode noise have you measured entering your network? It is not about common mode noise, nor do audiophile network cables supress it.. They just dont.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 2 года назад
@@oddmagnusbjerkvik5119 okay...
@shunyataresearch
@shunyataresearch 2 года назад
@@TheAlphaAudio Bingo. The filter on the Alpha is a Common Mode Filter we call a CMode module.
@davidnewboult6887
@davidnewboult6887 3 года назад
That was a wonderful demonstration, the Alpha is certainly no.1. For anyone unsure (the differences are are not night & day especially through YT) but go directly from one of the first 2 straight to the Alpha. Thanks.
@headphone307
@headphone307 3 года назад
I thought so too! There's a spot where the guitar strings screech, and it jumped right out on the alpha's. I found some of the cables a little annoying to listen to, especially the last ones. And, I have no idea about these brands which is more expensive or what not. I thought the pearls sounded good too.
@andreiaudio
@andreiaudio 3 года назад
I really find your clips very usefull and helpfull. I ve always wondered wheather network cables make a difference, and now i can see for myself. I think that there is a very slight difference, but not as obvious as other cables.Thank you, I really appreciate your work. Best regards!
@DavidD-eo8ts
@DavidD-eo8ts 5 месяцев назад
I tried but couldn't hear a difference maybe as I was using a laptop and it's internal DAC etc and some average earphones. I've been trying different cables myself and am about to try a 20mtr Cat7 cable between my telecom providers router and my Auralic streamer and my hiend music system. I live in hope like all other audiophiles (phools?). Love your channel and thanks for all the work you do for us.
@yorivangelderop559
@yorivangelderop559 4 года назад
Hey Jaap, Leuk onderwerp weer! Zo de verschillen te horen via RU-vid is heel leuk en interessant. Ja als je naast je op de bank zou zitten zal je misschien wel meerdere verschillen horen, maar het is een leuke manier om zo thuis de verschillen te kunnen beluisteren en misschien een doorslag kunnen geven bij het bestellen van een kabel of kabels… Ik heb zelf zitten switchen tussen de Shunyata Delta en Alpha. De Alpha lijkt iets meer te sprankelen, maar afentoe lijkt hij wel meer aanwezig te zijn dan de Delta waarbij misschien de Delta wat rustiger klinkt alleen minder detail heeft. Op naar het volgende onderzoek ;) Groetjes, Yori van Gelderop
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
Helemaal eens met je bevindingen. Zo hoor ik ze ook op de bank.
@MOWFWDU
@MOWFWDU 3 года назад
Even with the coloration/dynamic range problem with the microphone/recorder there are slight but noticeable differences, makes the argument that a wire is just a wire seem silly.... (except I listened to the test using a quality stock ethernet cable without optical conversion:) I am going to look at the wave forms because an aspect of what I heard seemed to be level differences..... wire with gain? Even I am not drinking that cool aid. The track sounds massively better listening to the CD as the source.... one thing thing that the test has given me is a little perspective. I'd rather spend my money on a better DAC or preamp etc than spend stupid money on a cable. Probably you have done the comparison elsewhere, but would have loved to hear the stock cable and at least one on the others without the optical conversion. Thanks for the test.
@mawe6628
@mawe6628 4 года назад
I like your Videos very much, thx for the effort. I can hear a difference in sound with my iPhone and coustom molded IEM Rhine’s Stage 5. The „standard“ cable sounded stressed and nervous compared to all others. Between the Shunyatas there is little difference to hear via compressed y‘tube. I liked the CAT7 with Telegärtner plugs the best.
@xsamitt
@xsamitt 3 месяца назад
Respect!
@adamos9879
@adamos9879 Год назад
Ok the Audioquest and Shunyata are a little more difficult, but i prefer the Audioquest. On Shunyate, voice is a little bigger less tightly focused. I hear more of the inner detail and dynamics of the voice on the Audioquest. They are both improvements over the stock ethernet. I know, heresy, right?
@adamos9879
@adamos9879 Год назад
Yup, the Delta combines the qualities of the Audioquest and Venom. Sounds close the the Audioquest. Given the limitations of the Airpods I can only go on that, but the Delta does offer a bigger sound, better focus (like the Audioquest), and perhaps a tad more naturalness. Its very close though. If the Delta cost a lot more than the Audioquest i wouldn’t hesitate to spring for the Audioquest, because the improvements are very subtle.
@aleksandervladimirovich2129
@aleksandervladimirovich2129 3 месяца назад
Thank you very much for the video. Since there is indeed no difference in sound, it means I can continue living peacefully with the $5 Amazon cable.
@pixeluser175
@pixeluser175 Год назад
😂 Use kinked unshielded 20 year old CAT5 cable with a loose connector and place a transmitting GSM phone on it for extra interference. There is no difference to be heard, except for a little echo because of an empty wallet.
@rg6556
@rg6556 4 года назад
Great work Jaap! Love your channel. Btw, this is a remote shot but can I put in one selfish request... which is if (and when) possible to have more English speaking video in the future? I just discover your channel and now, I wish I know how to speak Dutch so I can watch all the other great uploads you'd made in the past...
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
Most video's will be either in English or Dutch and English. All Live streams are in English. So no worries!
@gwsound
@gwsound Год назад
Can you explain how a UTP cable can effect the sound? Assuming that the bit stream is on all cables smooth and in phase.
@elkeospert9188
@elkeospert9188 Год назад
Even if the bitstream would not be "smooth and in phase" it would not make any difference as the transmitted data is buffered on the receiver anyway....
@epg2501
@epg2501 Год назад
Standard sounded most natural. The others sounded scooped. If I was going to use a very expensive ethernet cable and media converter to act as tone controls, I’d probably just use EQ during playback instead. Listening on headphones, maybe I’m missing something more…will try studio monitors as well.
@aabuahro
@aabuahro 3 года назад
The differences are very subtle, i just hear like the standard has some hiss in vocals or siblings if you wish, and a bit of different tonal balance.
@michielsimons1828
@michielsimons1828 3 года назад
I'll hapilly make you a custom cable! Just for €200,- / mtr you'll get; Hand made, from 100% grass-free copper, braided with my cats hair, soaked for 24 hours in 21 year old single malt whiskey to get that clean smooth sound and terminated with plugs a T1000 would be jealous off. Heck, for twothousand more I'll even braid them with a virgin-unicorn's pubic hair. Make sure to burn 'em in. They will sound AMAZING from the first use, but they will sound EVEN MORE AMAZING after a year. After which they become more valuable, so you can tell the wife it's a 'sound investment' - pun intended. With one of these cables I'll GUARANTEE you'll loose not a single details from any of your FLAC files (or any other files for that matter). And it's not only audible. Oh no! It works on pictures too! Pictures of apples won't loose ANY colour or definition when downloaded with this cable. They will look just as tasty as it did on the source. Works for peaches too! If there's any typo or grammer error in this pitch, it's because you didn't view it using my cable. It came all from the south of the Netherlands too your house without fault. It got all fucked up because of your lowsy cable. Luckely for you, this can be a thing of the past. Buy the cable.
@aabuahro
@aabuahro 3 года назад
@@michielsimons1828 I don’t like cats.
@michielsimons1828
@michielsimons1828 3 года назад
In that case I highly recommend you go for the virgin unicorn pubic hair braid option.
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 2 года назад
@@michielsimons1828 can you burn them in !.👍👍
@elkeospert9188
@elkeospert9188 2 года назад
If you browse through the Internet you are downloading pictures for which the data has gone through hundred of meters of standard Ethernet cables - does that influence in any way the downloaded picture? Of course no... The same is true if you transmit digital data representing audio over Ethernet - the cable does not know if the bits are encoding a picture, a mp3, a wav a video file or the binary code of a computer game. A CAT-5 cable could transfer data with a rate of 1000 MBits/second with a typical bit error rate of 10 ^ -12 . So if you transfer the data of 180 CDs in average 1 bit will be transmitted wrong but this error is still detected and causes a retransmission.
@chewy560
@chewy560 3 года назад
Don’t forget that most dacs buffer the data. Hard to see in this instance why there would be any difference. Not sure I heard any differences, but this was through my iPad.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
It is not about data... It's all about common mode noise.
@chewy560
@chewy560 3 года назад
@@TheAlphaAudio thanks.
@paullongtailpair3812
@paullongtailpair3812 Год назад
Cables burned in ?
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 7 месяцев назад
The guitar is slightly suppressed with the Venom, compared to Cat700 Pearl.
@ruudvandeneijnden8038
@ruudvandeneijnden8038 4 года назад
Moeilijk te horen zo op RU-vid. Ik meen te horen dat de Shunyata Alpha voor mij de winnaar is. Maar.....ik ben, denk ik niet erg objectief. Heb de Alpha thuis beluisterd in vergelijking met de Sigma en dan hoor je pas echt wat de kabels in hun mars hebben. Heb toen voor de Sigma gekozen, omdat die echt alle kabels die ik ooit beluisterd heb VER achter zich laat. Wat een verbetering, geweldig!! En iedereen die hier kwamen luisteren waren met stomheid geslagen. De Alpha was een goede tweede. (getest op dCS Rossini DAC/Clock en Roon eigen bouw computer)
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
Helaas konden we de Sigma niet mee-samplen. Herken wat je zegt.
@ivo7597
@ivo7597 4 года назад
Shunyata Alpha voor mij ook eerste keuze, best goed te horen nog. Zo zie je maar dat alles invloed heeft... edit: De combinatie van converter met sbooster geeft dan toch ook nog ruis, als de betere utp kabel het verschil nog kan maken?
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 7 месяцев назад
Shunyata Alpha vs Cat 700 Pearl about even in quality, but with differences. Cat 700 voices and some background instruments are more vivid and present. Not necessarily more forward, just more vivid. Alpha is mellower and easier to listen to, compared to Cat 700 Pearl. Very slight horn like sound with the Cat 700 vs the slightly mellowed sound with the Shunyata Alpha.
@danijelstarman4689
@danijelstarman4689 4 года назад
What was your final decision?
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
I don't want to influence you... :-). What's yours?
@antobethell4798
@antobethell4798 4 года назад
@@TheAlphaAudio It's hard to gauge listening through a mobile phone, do you think there is any difference between them?
@Sams911
@Sams911 3 года назад
what is your opinion on using CAT8 vs CAT7/6/5 .. I can get good 10% Silver content, American made cable for $200.. worth the money?
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
The CAT (Category) doesn't say anything about the quality. CAT6, CAT7, CAT8 is in basis just a 'speed'-indicator.
@jantomsic1944
@jantomsic1944 3 года назад
No, waste of money. It won't make any difference over a $5 cat 5a cable. Cat8 is needed if you need 40gbps data transfers in a data center.
@PiriyaSambandaraksa
@PiriyaSambandaraksa 2 года назад
HD600 on SMSL SU-9 / SH-9 stack, balanced, reporting no difference.
@harrykurniawan5817
@harrykurniawan5817 11 месяцев назад
I think aquest 700 is the winner ,more texture ,wide bandwith ,nice sound . Shunyata venom the second .
@michielsimons1828
@michielsimons1828 3 года назад
Audiophile ethernet cables? Are you kidding me? XD Some people just WANT to be robbed.
@Johnny-Too-Bad
@Johnny-Too-Bad 3 года назад
I can clearly hear the sound of dollars flying out of some sap's wallet.
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 3 года назад
I would challenge you on that. My hearing is nothing great but I can definitely judge the standard cable as being inferior to the others.
@FJBx100
@FJBx100 3 года назад
@@aussie8114 That's not the point. The point is the cost of experimentation in an area where science claims that cables cannot influence the "sound" of binary data flow. This may or may not be the case, according to each person, but there is a cost which can be stupidly expensive in trying this. OTOH, if an Amazon Basics cable sounds great to someone, then he or she should be grateful...
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 3 года назад
David Smith I don’t know the cost difference. But if it’s not a huge amount then I would pay the extra for one of the upgrades. The audio sounded cleaner to my crappy ears.
@skip1835
@skip1835 3 года назад
There's a generalized idea that's prevalent with this cable thing, regardless of cable type, price or manufacturer - - - just because someone owns high in priced cables doesn't necessarily mean that person is a sap, to the contrary, people that own them spend the money for the sound, diminishing returns? Of course - - and I'm one of those "Saps", the speaker cables I'm currently using cost over 1 and 1/2 times the cost of the speakers I'm running, and yeah, of course I hate that - - so why do it? They're f'ing amazing and I've slowly climbed the cable ladder, so yes, I can personally attest that not only are they better in EVERY department but I could never go back either - - hey, I've run my reference system with standard Monster Cable, sounds fine - and if that's all I could afford I could live with them - insert true high end cables and like me, if money isn't an issue, you won't want to go back - - not looking to "spar" with you either - I couldn't change your mind, which is too bad, because you're missing what good cables can do - nor could you change mine.
@davidluke3289
@davidluke3289 2 года назад
@@aussie8114 nothing from shunyata is affordable for most. You have to be a dedicated well heeled hobbyist to go from Audioquest to Shunyata.
@adamos9879
@adamos9879 Год назад
Final, just checked prices. Shunyata Venom $450, Delta $850, Audioquest Cat700 Pearll $59. Audioquest the easy winner. The difference of the Delta is really minute. One would have to be a loon to pay an extra $800 for that over the Audioquest. Shunyata are not a good value for money at all here.
@guillermomartin8248
@guillermomartin8248 3 года назад
I feel like this may work when you are connecting via network from a PC’s hard drive (flac files) to router/switch and then to a player, in other words within your network. However, when you are streaming from Tidal for example, I would think you need to have the home wired (with said cables) from demarc to device, not to mention beyond. That being said, I did hear a slight difference between the standard cable and the Cinnamon cable, not sure if it was better or not, but the voice sounded totally different.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
It will always work. Internet streaming, nas drive or just a connection for control. It's all about lowering noise.
@georgecav
@georgecav Год назад
I have heard Bjorn from Nordost comparing various ethernet cables and differences were huge(and price tags). His explanation which I am neutral about regarding not having all the cabling the same high quality but rather just the last bit is that this is what matters most because its closest to the end point. I havent done his explanation full justice but I offer it for what its worth. At a very superficial listen I prefer Alpha also
@cristianchocobar8652
@cristianchocobar8652 3 года назад
Shunyata venom es la mejor para mi.
@gregitingen
@gregitingen 3 года назад
Thank you to the creator for making this video. It took a lot of effort and I just want to say that I rally appreciate you taking the time to do this for everyone’s benefit. The fact that you don’t even try to press your opinion on others is great. Despite that, some of the comments are still so dismissive and smug. The whole point of the video is that if you think there are no differences, now your beliefs are confirmed. If you think there are., you are also correct. Listen and see. Life is not all magic nor is it all science. Keeping an open mind can yield great results. If I showed an iPhone to Einstein he would call me a witch. There are many many things we don’t understand.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
Thank you for the kind words. That is exactly what we try to do with these video's.
@kreuner11
@kreuner11 Год назад
Well it is a simple fact that digital data can use the shittiest and cheapest cable as long as it can transfer data reliably at the wanted speed, all matters is the analog part
@seeghostchiang
@seeghostchiang 3 месяца назад
I use Pixel Buds Pro and can’t hear any difference at all.
@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 3 года назад
I can't hear a difference between them; they all sound the same to me.
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 3 года назад
You and me both !! There will be no difference, ridiculous. Audiophiles seem to believe everything.
@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 3 года назад
@@r423sdex I do consider myself an audiophile, but I am not on the BS train 🚆 I don't think cables matter. Just use well made cables (I use Blue Jeans) and you don't need anything else. I don't buy into this audiophile network nonsense either. I just bought quality Ubiquiti components and am super happy.
@wa2368
@wa2368 3 года назад
@@r423sdex Jackass, the guy who made the video didn't even say anything sounds different. He's just comparing cables. That's it.
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 3 года назад
@@wa2368 have you got a audiophile Ethernet cable. 😂
@BrentLeVasseur
@BrentLeVasseur 3 года назад
The standard ethernet cable has the best midrange sound. I think its slightly boosted over the others, but doesn’t have the crystal clear highs that the others have. The best sounding overall would be the Shunyata Delta. It has a flatter midrange than the standard cable but has the nicest sounding highs. The audio quest and the others are very similar in that they have a reduced midrange and slightly emphasized treble frequencies. The audioquest is my least favorite sounding cable as it sounds too thin. It seems to be suppressing the midrange too much and the treble frequencies, while greater than the standard cable, also sound thinner. So my two favorites would be the standard ethernet cable for midrange and the Shunyata Delta for treble. With a slight EQ tweak on either the standard cable to boost the treble frequencies you could probably come close to the sound of the Shunyata (I’m guessing.) However if you boosted the mids slightly on the Shunyata Delta it might match or beat the midrange in the standard cable. That’s what I heard. edit: i just looked up the price for the Delta and at $450 it wouldn’t be worth the upgrade on your system. I think you would need a much higher resolving system that would cost you in the $100,000+ category to warrant these cable upgrades. Standard ethernet cable is good enough.
@bh69videa
@bh69videa 2 года назад
please tell me how can ethernet cable work different for highs, bass or midrange ?! cable transmits digital data in packets (packages of informations), there is no possible way how can ethernet cable affect mids or highs in reproduced music.
@BrentLeVasseur
@BrentLeVasseur 2 года назад
@@bh69videa In my own system I went from ethernet cables to optical for the streamer/transport from the Wifi router hub. What that does is separate all of the noise from all of the other devices connected to the network which can and does get carried along with that digital signal. A digital signal is carried on an analogue wave, and if that analogue wave is noisy, it can degrade some of the packets and cause jitter. When it comes to a digital signal, it’s all about jitter reduction for the signal that enters the DAC. And the quality of an ethernet cable can vary and carry more or less noise, and subsequently jitter. That’s what I think is causing the difference in sound quality between these cables. You can also experience this noise reduction in the form of power supplies and conditioners that contribute to blacker backgrounds and a cleaner overall sound on the analogue side. We are swimming in EMF radiation, and that radiation affects both the digital signal up to the digital to analogue conversion in the DAC and on the output side to the pre-amp, amp and through the speaker cable to the speakers. So this EMF nose reduction is the final step in perfecting the best possible sound that your system can produce. That’s my 2 cents.
@bh69videa
@bh69videa 2 года назад
@@BrentLeVasseur optic can be good way to eliminate noise for sure. But you are wrong about jitter. Asynchronous transfer (ethernet, usb) with buffer cannot affect sound due jitter, because timing is on DAC side and DAC reads data from buffer.
@bh69videa
@bh69videa 2 года назад
@@BrentLeVasseur noise can be easy detected - play silent file (is it possible to download for free on web) at high volume. Are you hear noise ? Can you hear difference with another cable ?
@BrentLeVasseur
@BrentLeVasseur 2 года назад
@@bh69videa Because electrical noise is carried into the DAC via the ethernet cable, it can still cause jitter. It comes in the form of electrical noise that can negatively affect the DAC, and time of the data matters as music is a stream of data and if there are missed or corrupted packets that means those packets need to be resent. Now caching may eliminate that, but it doesn’t eliminate the electrical noise. That’s also why power supply and conditioners matter for a DAC, again because electrical noise can negatively effect the decoding process whether it comes from the power outlet or along a USB or ethernet cable. I have proven to myself that this does have an effect on my own system by separating the server from the transport and DAC and by employing optical connections from the network hub and by using power conditioning and good quality power cords. All of these things can add up to give a better overall sound quality.
@paulschiphorst9234
@paulschiphorst9234 2 года назад
Except the standard and Alpha, all other cables are more suppressing parts of the music like the 'wind' in the background of the music. Best hearable in the beginning.The standard is most clear, does not 'filter the music' and I believe technically it would have the highest bandwidth. By the way, I am playing RU-vid Premium 4K (this goes with higher res audio) settings and I am using the MacBook Pro with Dragonfly DAC and Airpods Max cabled.
@KangMade
@KangMade 3 года назад
Ethernet cable?!... Wow
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
We are pretty nerdy... yes.
@Burevestnik9M730
@Burevestnik9M730 3 года назад
Why is this better sounding than other comparisons done with the same devices?
@Burevestnik9M730
@Burevestnik9M730 3 года назад
I think I know: there is 3200eur in those Italian acoustic devices behind speakers.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
@@Burevestnik9M730 Also... yes... but we actually use studio grade high-end micrphones and pre-amps. ;-). And... we actually put some effort in placing the mics the right way.
@clovisdacruz6078
@clovisdacruz6078 2 года назад
An Ethernet cable should not make a difference because the data is buffered.
@DaveJ6515
@DaveJ6515 6 месяцев назад
The only possible reason I can imagine is analogue noise injection. Hard to accept anyway.
@m4ril4r4njinh4
@m4ril4r4njinh4 4 года назад
Amazing video. Thank you. Could you, please, explain more about the fiber converter? A video about that would be nice. Thanks!
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
Check www.alpha-audio.net and search for fiber network. You will find a complete article about it! :-)
@phraenque
@phraenque 4 года назад
Waarom steeds weer het geluid via de luidsprekers en dan in de microfoon en dan naar de stream/video. Doe de uitput meteen in de stream/video! Dat is voor de luisteraars veel beter!
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
Dit is een realistischere output omdat je het gehele systeem meepakt. Maar voor elke methode is wat te zeggen.
@Antoon55
@Antoon55 4 года назад
@@TheAlphaAudio Voor het vergelijken van ethernetkabels wil je zo veel mogelijk systeem uitschakelen wellicht.
@adamos9879
@adamos9879 Год назад
Wow! At 6:36 in went back and compared the standard with Audioquest. I did not expect that there would be any difference, improvement or not. So surprised that the ethernet cable has an impact. The Audioquest is not only different, but converys more of the musical performance..
@Antoon55
@Antoon55 4 года назад
Great post! I surely did hear differences. I liked the Shunyata Alpha the best but I think the Pearl has a nice dynamic sound and for the price I think it's a steal. Incidentally, I received the AQ Forest yesterday and on the first listen I immediately found that an upgrade compared to the Pearl. Just a little less aggressive so smoother a wider stage and more black. Strange because the much more expensive Cinnamon was too smooth in my set and I returned it. My conclusion so far: More expensive is not always better in every set, the effect on the sound depends on the rest of the set. Logical actually, but nice to experience that for myself :) Swapping cables like this is a nice way to finetune your set.
@Smood47
@Smood47 3 года назад
Can you describe what you listened on and what differences you heard?
@AL_Mir29241
@AL_Mir29241 3 года назад
You hear differences, recorded through a microphone, in a 128kbps encoded MP3 audio stream, played back on your machine? What's the difference? How much of a difference would Ethernet cables even provide? Its all digital isn't it? 1's and 0's. No analogue differences in digital audio.
@IronHorsey3
@IronHorsey3 3 года назад
Thanks for the hard work and saving us tons of money. A good Ethernet cable is fine. The rest is a waste.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
Welcome!
@elkeospert9188
@elkeospert9188 Год назад
Believing that "audiophile" Ethernet cables can change of even improve digital transmitted music is like believing that replacing the display of an pocket calculator through a different one with higher contrast leads to more accurate calculation results. Fully nonsense
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 3 года назад
The AQ Pearl and Cinnamon and the Alpha are the best, IMHO. By comparison the standard cable seems slightly muffled.
@EricRhodeslives
@EricRhodeslives 2 месяца назад
Alpha sounds good!
@ruuddebree3425
@ruuddebree3425 4 года назад
De hamvraag voor mij is hoe ik een zo subtiel verschil tussen ethernet kabels kan vaststellen via mijn eigen internet netwerk vanaf een IMAC. Ik wil nog wel geloven dat er een summier verschil in kabels is, maar dat kun je naar mijn mening alleen maar vaststellen in de luisterruimte zelf. Dat geldt in feite voor vrijwel alle componenten. Maar aandacht voor het onderwerp kabels is op zich goed en de installatie zelf lijkt mij een heel mooi op elkaar afgestemd geheel.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
Het systeem vangt verschillen op. De verschillen kan je het beste horen op een hoofdtelefoon. Let wel: het is geen meting van kwaliteit... Dat kan niet ivm alle schakels en variabelen. Maar verschillen worden - indien ze er zijn - wel weergegeven... Op een goede set of hoofdtelefoon.
@michielsimons1828
@michielsimons1828 3 года назад
Laat je niks wijs maken Ruud. Een Ethernet kabel gaat geen enkel verschil maken in het geluid dat door je speakers komt. Zelfs niet heel subtiel. Dit is pure kwakzalverij.
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 7 месяцев назад
Cat700 Pearl was more natural, more present, and slightly larger imaging that the first cable.
@yannick930
@yannick930 2 года назад
The Delta is the most natural. All those filters on the higher end mess with the mid range i fell. The low end sounds more liquid but it feels less natural. Everything is too much polished to my taste. Even the home made stuff Wich is less transparent is at least realer than the filtered ones.
@jarnovilen5259
@jarnovilen5259 Год назад
This is just hilarious. A video on RU-vid that tries to demonstrate sound differences on ethernet cables. And one should hear it from a RU-vid video! Too funny. You guys are nuts.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio Год назад
Thanks!
@warmtoiletseat5596
@warmtoiletseat5596 Год назад
@@TheAlphaAudio Digital data is 1s and 0s. No in-between meaning it's not analog. There's no 1.69s but only 1s and 0s. Data is buffered by the player. If invalid data is received, the Ethernet frame has retry mechanisms to make sure it receives the correct data. Aside from layer 2, data correction is also implemented at higher network layers. Try downloading a picture with regular vs. audiophile cables (scam btw), see if there's a difference.
@elkeospert9188
@elkeospert9188 Год назад
@@warmtoiletseat5596 "Try downloading a picture with regular vs. audiophile cables (scam btw), see if there's a difference." To see a difference when pictures are downloaded you need of course a videophile ethernet cable 🙂
@reedmurungweni2091
@reedmurungweni2091 10 месяцев назад
I think the Shunyata sounded more natural
@AsgerSigfusson
@AsgerSigfusson 3 года назад
Dear freinds, i vorry that the position of your microphone is not the ideal position in regards to room/speaker/listener positioning. I would be very happy if you could put the microphones in the listening position. This comment is not to be irritating, but it origins after i heard the powerconditioner test with Niagara, Denali ect . on that video i heard almost the opposit than what you concluded. Just my 5 cents :O), best regards Asger
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
That doesn't work. Believe me. You get loads of combfilter issues.
@chriswithall2518
@chriswithall2518 4 года назад
I cant hear any difference, but that might be down to the computer and youtube's digitalised resolution, or there is actually no difference? given the TCP.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 4 года назад
Differences in sound have nothing to do with data transmission. It's the noise - mostly common mode - that make some difference in presentation of the music.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
@Hunter Lannon TCP does check. It has error detection and correction / retransmission. Udp doesn't care about jntegrity. That's why it is used for real time streaming. Less overhead.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
@Hunter Lannon no worries! Yeeeh... Crc checks by hand... pfff
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 3 года назад
@@rmcaudio7041 nope... Not all noise... Unfortunately.
@elkeospert9188
@elkeospert9188 Год назад
@@TheAlphaAudio "Hunter Lannon TCP does check. It has error detection and correction / retransmission. Udp doesn't care about jntegrity. That's why it is used for real time streaming. Less overhead." RU-vid uses TCP and not UDP . So how can the guys here hear transmission errors? And no -streaming is also NOT real time - there is a delay of typical several seconds as a buffer is used before the DAC to compensate for changes in transmission rate.
@riccitone
@riccitone Год назад
Thanks for this, could definitely hear some differences. Unfortunately, the higher priced cables being the improvement (at least among these). Melco cables would be another interesting comparison.
@elkeospert9188
@elkeospert9188 Год назад
Do you know that the music which you are hearing did go through kilometers of normal Ethernet cable, dozends of "non audiophile" Routers and is highly lossy compressed by RU-vid?
@Wordsalad69420
@Wordsalad69420 Год назад
@@elkeospert9188 These people are beyond help.
@riccitone
@riccitone Год назад
@@elkeospert9188 yes, I do. But could still hear palpable differences. Tonal characteristics, frequency differentiation, amplitudes and coloration can still be detected after all of that, as it is reconstructed from the source recording. Just as anyone - that knows how to listen - can hear the difference between ANY A/B test on amps or other gear on here. If you have access to any of our neural pathways, feel free to measure them as any absolutist would prefer. Otherwise, just go ahead and and continue to believe that we're all a bunch of crazy placebophiles 👌
@carloporfiri6334
@carloporfiri6334 3 года назад
Come on guy...BE SERIOUS !!!
@cesargutierrez4999
@cesargutierrez4999 3 года назад
The alpha was the best More detail and texture, deeper more controlled bass
@Burevestnik9M730
@Burevestnik9M730 3 года назад
Delta and Alpha were the best. It would be interesting to compare without fiber convertor.
@mat.b.
@mat.b. Месяц назад
lol just use some off the shelf STP Cat7 and call it a day
@eduardochantos1573
@eduardochantos1573 6 месяцев назад
Of all audiophile absurdities I have read in years this THIS is just madness! Ok, Ethernet is a signaled transport layer 2 protocol AND it uses a multitude of frame error detection algorithms precisely to withstand phisical interference and transmission errors (frames are stored in a cache), unless you live under an electricity transmission pylon (you don't) you can LITERALLY use the cheapest crappiest UTP cable, even one chipped away by rats will work, but if you are so concerned about electronic interference just get an STP cable which is specifically engineered to shield transmission wires and it cost a fraction of all these ridiculously priced cables. Honestly people, use common sense and educate yourselves.
@manardh7387
@manardh7387 3 года назад
The Shunyata Alpha won easily by presenting a more FULL and closer to the music presentation. The vibration harmonics had a natural presence and fade out. Not sure it will retain that quality over time, sometimes they may fade slightly with use. I don't own one that expensive to know for sure, just what I have experienced with some cables of other type. Great comparison.
@craigdianesmith
@craigdianesmith 3 года назад
One thing people forget about ethernet cables is while the data is digital, the signal is analogue and suffers from EMI and jitter effects. I definitely heard a difference on your compressed video even. The streaming application is time sensitive versus bog standard computer TCP/IP with retries and error correction.
@iowaudioreviews
@iowaudioreviews 3 года назад
Ethernet is quite resistant to emi especially any low levels in the home and jitter really isn't an issue if the DAC is built properly. Most $100 chinese DACs with power bricks don't even have these problems any more. AudioScienceReview has debunked a bunch of this BS.
@bh69videa
@bh69videa 2 года назад
no, jitter is nice word, but many people use them as mantra without understanding how it works ... ethernet works with data packets, it's asynch communication where data are stored into buffer of streamer/DAC and there is no jitter caused by data transmittion. Only problem that can occure is buffer underrun (empty buffer) if there is some bigger problem. But such problem will cause interruption of reproduction. EMI can theoretically be a problem but how can some fancy cable solve this ? And there is no measurement that proves it, or do you know some ? *** Easy thing to test - if you unplug ethernet cable (or USB in case of USB DAC) during reproduction music will not stop immediatelly (there are data in buffer).
@Ceko
@Ceko 3 года назад
Even though some people may hear difference, it’s just not worth the extra money over a standard cable IMHO. The first demo sounded just as good as any other (what I mean is, if you hear it you don’t actually miss anything at all).
@davidluke3289
@davidluke3289 2 года назад
I obviously have a much more revealing system than you do. The first cable was unlistenable at reference volume. The second one was better, but still bad. The Cinnamon was the best. Actually not that bad of a song on the Audioquest. I was also able to adjust my system so that I could easily hear that the reviewer had quite a few cars passing on the street. Could you hear them?
@Ceko
@Ceko 2 года назад
@@davidluke3289 unlistenable 😂 You’re a funny man David.
@davidluke3289
@davidluke3289 2 года назад
@@Ceko I wanted to turn the volume down, but I stuck it out, as that would alter the tests for me. It paid off in the form of seeing how much more listenable the same tune becomes when certain frequencies are not a shrill or overbearing. I’m going to rewatch it with my son to see what he thinks. I did some things to stimulate his hearing when he was in the womb and it resulted in him being born with oversize eardrums. He has remarkable hearing, much like an animal that needs it to survive in the forest.
@Smood47
@Smood47 9 месяцев назад
You don't like tube gear ?
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 9 месяцев назад
Not as a power amp...
@gzubeck3
@gzubeck3 4 года назад
Digital data is digital data...unless you have some kind of EM interference I can't see how such a short run would have any impact at all. What happens if your out in the middle of nowhere with very little interference? I think data cables are the least of anyone's worries and I would be more worried about the signal once it turns into analog after the dac. No? Once wifi and internet get really fast this will become even more ridiculous. LOL!
@krancan25
@krancan25 3 года назад
Great, no difference as expected... save your money 💵
@Tinez87
@Tinez87 3 года назад
Audio science has all the proof anybody needs to prove many of these manufacturers are just taking people for a ride. I still like to come and watch videos like this because I find it amusing.
@Flightsimmovies
@Flightsimmovies 3 года назад
It will make a difference if it’s expensive and look premium enough Placebo effect will take care of it.
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 2 года назад
The first one sounded a big crappier but not a lot. I thought all the others sounded about the same as each other. I checked the price of the one with the filter, over $2,000. Bugger that, but I will by something a step up from a cheap standard cable. Should not need to spend more than $100 though.
@kobush18
@kobush18 Год назад
Great 👍 for i don't hear any difference between cables, they all sound exactly the same!
@gmachine1370
@gmachine1370 Год назад
I know one great ethernet cable made by 7notes audio. More open, faster and precise than audioquest
@elkeospert9188
@elkeospert9188 Год назад
If you use this "great ethernet cable" to look RU-vid videos does it also improve the quality of that videos? Or is at least the sound of that videos better?
@gmachine1370
@gmachine1370 Год назад
@@elkeospert9188 I only use this cable in my audio rig, no video at all. My intention are share my discovery, regardless you believe or not in cables.
@elkeospert9188
@elkeospert9188 Год назад
@@gmachine1370 Give it at try and check if does also improve video and/or audio quality of video streaming. Or do you fear that your great Ethernet cable suffers in some way when it is transmitting video or other "non pure music" stuff?
@fidelizer.
@fidelizer. 2 года назад
Standard cable seems to be the most musical one to my ears. The rest seems to trade the soul of music for audiophile enhancements. I hope he can demo better than standard but won't lose musicality one in future too in future.
@jmp622
@jmp622 3 года назад
What do you hear as you are hearing it live. I hear no difference
@Ricardo-fs1xe
@Ricardo-fs1xe 2 года назад
Man, I can hear no difference at all...
@victormartell5705
@victormartell5705 2 года назад
your system is not resolving enough! :D HAHA - what they mean is not expensive enough! :D . Basically is that when you have spend as much money on the things as believer have, this kicks in: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
@hakki1999
@hakki1999 3 года назад
I think i heard something
@Tinez87
@Tinez87 3 года назад
The sound of an empty wallet being dropped and nothing to show for it.
@user-go8qz2gk5d
@user-go8qz2gk5d 10 месяцев назад
The only remotely interesting "test" here would be to see if anyone could tell a difference if you did NOT disclose what cable is being used. Once you tell people what they are listening to, the comparison becomes meaningless.
@TheAlphaAudio
@TheAlphaAudio 10 месяцев назад
We did loads of blind tests already.
@user-go8qz2gk5d
@user-go8qz2gk5d 10 месяцев назад
So you say, but no doubt there is no video record or any other independent evidence to confirm that a true, proper double-blind test was done and/or that anyone was able to distinguish different ethernet cables a statistically significant number of times. This is old, very old story. SNAKE OIL!
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