There is no need to close borders, until there is a need, but by that time it will alreeady be too late. Anyone here with a memory longer than 4 years?
This disease doesn't spread the same way covid does. Mpox isn't airborn, so it usually spreads via open wounds and then throughout a household. Thus it's hard to catch it from a stranger without physical contact, and people don't tend to touch people they don't know.
"too late" for what? The disease is infectious but just the fact that it's not respiratory, means it's far less dangerous than COVID was...Ebola is deadly too, yet all we hear is crickets 🦗 because it's way of infection is easy to contain. Also, COVID was infectious BEFORE symptoms began aka it was silently infecting. Mpox infects when visible symptoms start, making it even easier to contain.
@@xena2559For this disease it's not necessary. It will spread to Europe yes, infect more than the previous strain yes, not nearly enough to strain healthcare systems. That's literally all that will happen. People are anxious because of COVID but they need to read a bit about viruses.
Close off the country from where this originates, and then concentrate on getting their whole population vaccinated. Is this so difficult? Why do we have to let it spread and then ramp up production and vaccinate the whole world?
It's already spread to six countries in Africa including Kenya... impossible to lock down very large African countries from one another...the borders are long and porous. Nairobi is a major transit hub to North Africa and Europe, and people can be asymptomatic for up to 4 days while shedding virus...not easy to screen for. Here we go again!
Because that costs money and the countries where the outbreaks are happening are poor. The global northwest just doesn't care enough about other peoples - even when it would benefit ourselves (once again) to do so. So nothing of use will be done to stop this early.
The current outbreak in DR Congo is in an area close to the border with mining and a lot of labor migration afaik. Not an area where borders can be fully closed as I understand.
Screen all travelers that are from Africa. Quarantine is effective. I hate when public health official lie to the public. It is known that you need to isolate infectious people from non infectious people.
😷 *Treat countries like people.* If someone has an infectious disease, that person is recommended to stay home and quarantine until it's over so why not countries??? In this case, *the country that Mpox started and where most cases are now should be the one shutting down their borders,* NOT everybody else. Imagine if China had admitted to COVID and shut down its borders earlier, the rest of the world and millions of people would have been spared much death, suffering, grief, and financial losses.
@@AlltagundsoAnd there's no reply to your comment, obviously. Because "treat countries like people" only applies to countries that are not in North America. It's this kind of person.
@Alltagundso: 😷 Sounds like you were born only yesterday since you don't know that *348 countries on every continent closed their borders* in mid March 2020 due to pandemic.
@@frusia123 : 😷 Sounds like you didn't know that countries can easily shut down its borders to goods and people from other countries all the time. It's called *sanctions* and all it needs is political will.
@@emilysigmund1255 agreed that there is conflict in the DRC along with mass displacement but the WHO response to any humanitarian health crisis in the African continent seems lethargic at best
This disease is spread through physical contact, and humans don't tend to touch people they don't know, so an infected stranger can not infect you without touching you.
@@emilysigmund1255 Skin to skin...ehm... but also animals and umm surfaces (andumm EVERYTHING) but ye, skin to skin. he said that , right?? ye, started in DRC teleported to "surroundings countries" OO maybe I'm just over reacting...but I'm in Portugal, sooo ehhm... 🙃
I am disappointed with this video. All the guests in one way or another downplayed the severity of the current outbreak and the fact that airborne transmission does exist in clade I.
@@nicb5557 No, you're wrong. MPOX clade IIb was the predominant one spreading worldwide since 2022 while Clade I was the one spreading locally in Africa for several decades. Now clade I has mutated to Ib, as a result, the virus is more transmissible and virulent than it was before.
still trying to grasp what's the meaning of the expressions " EU says " and " EU warns " - who is this EU ? is it like a small group of people who can be collectively named so ? is it a dozen interns cramped in an office somewhere ? or is this abbreviation now used to cover any mentalism whose real producers won't put their names on it , not even the name of the branch / committee they're working in ? or is this "news" the result of an interdept effort that every single part of the "EU" worked on ? well i suppose this "EU" must be the Spanish Inquisition , that nobody expects , or the Ministry of Truth , that nobody needs .
Yaa, this is when you shut down flights out of Africa. Honestly, did we learn nothing from covid? You can catch it if they have touched something and you go touch it . Why they are not telling people this is beyond me . Gloves long sleeves and jeans thats what you need to wear .
Africa is a whole big continent with 54 countries, they keep saying it is spreading in Africa like it's one country. you can say it's spreading in central Africa at least.
Why didn't we in the U.S. and Europe act sooner to get vaccines and other aid to the DRC? Mpox has been an ongoing problem and the West ignored it. Why didn't gov'ts use incentives to have more companies make vaccines?
@@ToldYouSo18they are superpowers and they looted those countries of their natural resources and enslaved the people from Africa so this is the least they can do to help the continent and its people who they have wronged.
Should totally not allow any people having recently visited from entering the EU or North America or any and all other countries unless they are quarantined.
the treeclimbers don't matter unless their govt can get more indebt to pay for some new genetech or smth . the others will definitely get more indebt to buy 10x more than they need of that
Why is comment censorship so bad particularly on this channel? Is skynet out of control or do you have moderators that think this is a kindergarten where nothing remotely controversial can be said? Saying someone should be fired was not allowed, but then saying they should not be earning a salary was ok. It is getting ridiculous and if there are manual moderators doing it, they should be replaced with people with common sense.
🥴😵💫Skin to skin...ehm... but also animals and umm surfaces (andumm EVERYTHING) but ye, skin to skin. he said that , right?? 🦻 ( it's like a very bad horror-parody 😵)
I can see certain businesses being limited to how many people they can have in them at a time if this thing really gets out of hand. It means people will be buying ticket for venues more often, if it goes that way. That said, due to how it is not airborn, it's not going to spread as rapidly as covid did and thus is less likely to get out of hand like that.
@@emilysigmund1255you seem to know many things.👍Have you heard how long the virus remains active on surfaces like doors, door knobs, etc. Seems this would be helpful info, yes? Thanks.
@@emilysigmund1255 Just read some studies have shown mpox lives up to 15 days on surfaces, but fortunately most sources are saying low risk of transmission this way. 👍 🤞 Thanks and best regards.❤️
Or the fact that we still live in a world where millions of people can travel anywhere on the planet in a few hours, and this is inevitable. We either put in disease monitoring systems everywhere people travel (which they won't want), or we shut down long distance *rapid* travel systems (which people also won't want).
Some people are *REALLY* excited about that idea of "borders are discriminatory", "borders shouldn't exist", "borders are impossible to enforce", "borders are a thing of the past"... 🤔🤔🤔
Covid-19. On the one hand, every time you get infected, it leaves you with low defenses and on the other hand, it has killed millions of people over 60 years old with antibodies against MPOX, upsetting the established balance of infectious epidemic diseases.
Clearly they have to wait for the European countries to stock up on vaccines before they get a look in - they'll get the surplus once profit margins have been hit.
1. It can spread before symptoms appear. 2. It can spread from touching surfaces, but unknown how long it stays there. 3. Let's hope and pray things go better this time. Edit: *some* , repeat *some* , studies say it can live up to 15 days on surfaces, but there is conflicting info regarding how transmissable it is this way. Most, at this point, are saying *low risk* .
It's not airborn, so it is limited to how quickly it can spread. If things get really out of hand I can see certain businesses having a limit to how many people are in them at a time, so you may have to buy more tickets for venues etc. But generally, people don't lay hands on strangers, and when covid popped up a lot of businesses took up strict cleaning rules to avoid the spread, and could pick those up again.
@@emilysigmund1255 0:17 All good points but most reports I've seen are minimizing or omitting that surfaces can easily transfer virus. Details needed. Reminds me how they waited to inform about c19 aerosol transmission and the need for masks. I'm just trying to promote better access to, and early dissemination of, correct info for everyone's well-being. Edit: All set. Sounds not too bad. Latest read info posted in original post. Thanks! 👍
@Charlie-Oooooo 🙄 they didn't know everything about the covid virus right away, so they didn't announce information that they weren't sure was true. There is nothing suspicious about that. Same goes for this infection. Not much is known about it yet.
@@emilysigmund1255 It depends on the airline and the type of ticket, business class is not the same as economy class. That just means that there are people with privileges. Also not touching is secondary when The disease is transmitted not only by contact with mucous membranes and secretions but is also transmitted through the air.
@fanatla3195 from what I understand, this skin disease is not airborn. Economy class can also be forced to space passengers too 🤷♀️ and for once it might actually be tolerable
Only found outside of Africa in Sweden..? I thought we (Canadians) got a few cases in Toronto... Maybe I've misunderstood something and it was a different strain..?
@@Alltagundso I doubt it's everywhere simply because it has a much harder time traveling than diseases like covid does. But it likely is further afeild then what is being reported at this point, simply because the powers that be simply don't have the data yet.
Cope...DW is literally one of the best unbiased sources around according to third party analysis, if you think it's biased like CNN, I have some news for you, the bias is not on DW.
@@Alltagundso You're right 👍 'Mpox spreads from person to person mainly through close contact with someone who has mpox. Close contact includes skin-to-skin (such as touching or sex) and mouth-to-mouth, or mouth-to-skin contact (such as kissing), and can also include being face-to-face with someone who has mpox (such as talking or breathing close to one another, which can generate infectious respiratory particles). During the global outbreak that began in 2022, the virus mostly spread through sexual contact. More research is needed on how mpox spreads during outbreaks in different settings and under different conditions".
Hopefully this std can be brought under control. Last time it came, it mostly affected the LGBTQ community. If this happens again, I employ people in that community to use protection and to stop this disease from spreading. The responsibility will likely be yours to control.
You mean things like that are typically only reported globally when there's a high likelihood it's about to spread globally? I'm impressed with your insight.
In chengalpate district, TN, Indiae we have a vaccinee plant which is currently not operational may be the WHO can take over the plant to manufacturee vaccinee, you need a MOU with the Gov. Of Indiae, and HLLe bioteche 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Unlikely. I used to be an antivaxxer (grew up as one and only started to doubt in my 20s) and I can tell you they will likely either blame the vaccine or claim it's not worth the risk of vaccination even if it works.
Fear coming back to manipulate, and the big business of the pharmaceutical industry. Perhaps the preamble to the threat of global recession that seems inevitable.