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Europe's $45BN Mega Tunnels through the Alps 

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The EU is building a record-breaking network of tunnels beneath the Alps. Today we will look at the construction behind the top 6 longest tunnels in the Alps!
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0:00 The $45BN Tunnels Cutting Through the Alps
0:25 The Alps
2:18 The Trans-European Transport Network
4:01 The Longest Tunnels in the World
5:15 Lötschberg Base Tunnel
7:37 Gotthard Base Tunnel
10:01 Mont d’Ambin Base Tunnel
11:56 Koralm & Semmering Base Tunnel
12:34 Brenner Base Tunnel
Brenner Base Tunnel (BBT)
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@MegaBuildsYT
@MegaBuildsYT 2 месяца назад
What do you think about Europe's new mega tunnels? 🤔 Thank you for your support for our recent videos! 💛
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 месяца назад
Long overdue and will probably be well used soon enough. It's Europe. I hope you do a video on all the newly announced crazy projects for Saudi Arabia added since NEOM and The Line including the 2 KM tall RISE Riyadh Tower designed by the same architect behind the now restarted Jeddah Tower and of course Burj Khalifa over in Dubai...
@NightWarp
@NightWarp 2 месяца назад
Over time, those are great investment for the next 100 years... it hurts now.. but will pay off 1000 fold
@th4fl4sh4
@th4fl4sh4 2 месяца назад
As a senior engineer, I have detailed insights in what is required to make such projects possible and I'm always amazed at what my colleagues are able to achieve. You have my respect. Thank you!
@felixtheswiss
@felixtheswiss Месяц назад
The first two were not built and payd by the EU but Switzerland
@aphextwin5712
@aphextwin5712 Месяц назад
They are however part of a TEN-T corridor, the Rhine-Alpine Corridor. The list of corridors was announced in 2013, at that time the Lötschberg base tunnel was already in operation and the Gotthard base tunnel well advanced already, construction start in 1999, installation of rail infrastructure finished by 2015. Both Norway and Switzerland are mentioned in EU documents on the Scandinavian - Mediterranean corridor and the Rhine-Alpine Corridor, respectively. For example in regard to train control systems (ERTMS). I don’t know if there is any joint funding, but there is cooperation. Switzerland has officially agreed to implement the European Union Agency for Railways (ERA)’s procedures and authorisation processes set forth in the EU's Fourth Railway Package.
@toninodagostino9328
@toninodagostino9328 2 месяца назад
It is so great to see how much Europa had evolved. Just a few generations ago, those countries were at war with each other. Look what you can achieve with cooperation. I believe that the positive impact of these tunnels will be astronomical.
@andreasryf
@andreasryf Месяц назад
Gotthard and Lötschberg were by no stretch of definition built by the EU, but by Switzerland, which is not a member of the EU. Nor did the EU pay for them. Actually, Switzerland is still waiting for the proper connections in Germany and Italy. The EU is years and decades behind on those agreed upon parts of the corridors.
@philipkudrna5643
@philipkudrna5643 Месяц назад
The only thing: both the Lötschberg and the Gotthard base tunnels have been built by Switzerland, not the EU. (As Switzerland is not a member of the EU). (But I don’t know, if some co-funding was coming from the EU…)
@clee79
@clee79 Месяц назад
There was no co-funding by the EU. Switzerland paid for all the Lötschberg, Gotthard and Mt. Ceneri base tunnels completly by itself.
@Flex2212
@Flex2212 9 дней назад
@@clee79 Everybody knows the Swiss have lots of money and not only from their admittadly great professionalism and work culture.
@alansimpson2371
@alansimpson2371 2 месяца назад
Love your videos! Presented really well and you can tell all the work that was put in. Thanks for them!
@mrburnz884
@mrburnz884 2 месяца назад
The thumbnail has changed 3 times within 25 minutes lol.
@MegaBuildsYT
@MegaBuildsYT 2 месяца назад
We are using RU-vids split testing feature 😌
@besenvraca
@besenvraca 2 месяца назад
The real reason is that the video is not performing very good 😢
@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon
@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon 2 месяца назад
​@@MegaBuildsYTit's cringe. Don't do it. I've unsubscribed for less
@TechDiffuse
@TechDiffuse 2 месяца назад
Bye, bye ​@@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon
@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon
@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon 2 месяца назад
@@TechDiffuse awww, bye bye my adorable little boy. Love you
@Virtualversatility1
@Virtualversatility1 2 месяца назад
Hi MegaBuilds thanks for the video
@guillegilcriado6879
@guillegilcriado6879 2 месяца назад
This video is so well produced! I love it. Thanks for such a great explanation and presentation!
@jaki7512
@jaki7512 2 месяца назад
Great video! A video about Terzo Valico’s tunnel (part of the Rhine-Alpls corridor) would be great
@MassiveBuild
@MassiveBuild 2 месяца назад
really EU is building a record-breaking network of tunnels beneath the Alps. Thanks for video
@Slithermotion
@Slithermotion Месяц назад
Half of the mentioned tunnels are build by a country that isn‘t even in the EU. Plus the construction planning started before the TEN network was even a theory. Lötschberg, Gotthard and Cenneribase tunnel are neither planned nor financed by the EU.
@urbanstrencan
@urbanstrencan 2 месяца назад
Another great video, keep up with great work 😊❤
@secondpulse5728
@secondpulse5728 2 месяца назад
Amazing Video!
@JavadVF
@JavadVF 2 месяца назад
Great video!
@robert11845
@robert11845 Месяц назад
ottimo lavoro ........ complimenti
@philipmurphy2
@philipmurphy2 2 месяца назад
MegaBuilds being awesome
@Twinflameascending
@Twinflameascending 2 месяца назад
Love these videos and I been looking forward to your uploads, what’s your schedule for videos Very well done and the facts and figures are helpful too xx
@MegaBuildsYT
@MegaBuildsYT 2 месяца назад
Thank you, we aim for a video every Saturday :)
@jimbobbob9063
@jimbobbob9063 2 месяца назад
Great video thanks
@ezioauditore1522
@ezioauditore1522 20 дней назад
There is no mention of the "Direttissima" line which crosses the Apennine mountains and connects Bologna with Florence and is already operational. It has a discontinuous total of 73 km of tunnel on 78 km of total route. When you travel along it by train it seems like you are going through a single tunnel.
@pegit_purple
@pegit_purple 2 месяца назад
its a great day when megabuilds posts a video
@MegaBuildsYT
@MegaBuildsYT 2 месяца назад
Thank you! 💛
@RRacel
@RRacel 2 месяца назад
You learn something new everyday
@alexg4015
@alexg4015 2 месяца назад
Blows my mind drilling from either end and they line up perfect. If you try drill through a wall or bit of wood each end they rarely line up !
@Deivil007
@Deivil007 Месяц назад
definelty worth
@christophermarshall527
@christophermarshall527 2 месяца назад
Nice overview! I am sure the economic benefits are most worthwhile.
@FootyFablesFB
@FootyFablesFB 2 месяца назад
Cool video!
@FeeNixBeech
@FeeNixBeech 2 месяца назад
Now all they have to do is unscrew the ticket network. XD
@mohiuddinahmad1792
@mohiuddinahmad1792 2 месяца назад
Nice video ❤❤
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 месяца назад
I'm most excited about the under construction tunnel linking Hamburg to Copenhagen. I also hope one day the competing project via Rostosk to link Copenhagen to Berlin more directly is also built! That whole stretch from C-Malmo to Kiel is probably the most important stretch of water and land in Europe barring the Strait of Gibraltar or perhaps Istanbul...
@apveening
@apveening Месяц назад
Both of the latter two are not in Europe but on the border of Europe.
@suspiciousafternoon
@suspiciousafternoon 2 месяца назад
these people protesting need to look at the bigger picture
@iichikun8189
@iichikun8189 2 месяца назад
that's the drill fire nation use to break Ba Sing Se wall
@djfmitv
@djfmitv Месяц назад
Regarding the North Sea-Med Corridor (like the North Sea Corridor), the line doesn't run through the UK anymore, but instead goes on by sea through the English Channel to Ireland directly
@nevecenere
@nevecenere 2 месяца назад
Wooow Italy is doing so good
@sohopedeco
@sohopedeco 2 месяца назад
I like the nickname for TBMs we use in Brazil: tatuzão, which means "big armadillo".
@aidanclarke6106
@aidanclarke6106 Месяц назад
That's a cute name 😊
@Pablo_Toulouse
@Pablo_Toulouse 2 месяца назад
Très bien, continuez. Et les Pyrénées ?
@clee79
@clee79 Месяц назад
The basetunnels not only are built from the portals at the ends but even from several point between too.
@Quinna78
@Quinna78 2 месяца назад
45 billion dollars is little cost compared to the infrastructure we get. California high speed rail is belived to cost beetween 88-128 billion or it might be cancelled. This is great for EU.
@Armaantyegreatxm
@Armaantyegreatxm 2 месяца назад
Hi, can you make a video about upcoming megaprojects in asia, theres many and i want to know, especially about the dubai train underwater from dubai to mumbai?
@andrebatchelder-schwab
@andrebatchelder-schwab 2 месяца назад
probably should reconsider your use of "European Union" completing the Swiss tunnels considering the EU had nothing to do with it. Also, the Ceneri base tunnel (chenery) is already completed...
@prabhushankar8520
@prabhushankar8520 2 месяца назад
Good 😊
@BrownieDove
@BrownieDove 2 месяца назад
AT 2:10 nice shot of the Canadian Rockies. or are those grain cars marked Alberta and Canada really in the Alps?
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 месяца назад
That's definitely on the CP line between Lake Louise and Golden or possibly near Banff or Canmore. I'm a 4G Albertan and that's definitely B-roll from 'Burta!
@LV-426...
@LV-426... 2 месяца назад
To make these videos you sometimes need to use some stock footage. That's how it works.
@dennis2376
@dennis2376 Месяц назад
@@LV-426... We know. :)
@Siranoxz
@Siranoxz 2 месяца назад
Some tech companies in Europe are working on a magnetic levitation system that are compatible with our current European Rail network. If it becomes feasible and safe, then Europe will implement them into the pipeline standardization.
@Joey-ct8bm
@Joey-ct8bm 2 месяца назад
In my country the Netherlands that research got canceled. Soon we have self driving electric cars anyway.
@FlaviOT0115
@FlaviOT0115 Месяц назад
Search 'IronLev', is an Italian project to create a levitation train using the existing railway network.
@MilesManners-qr7nl
@MilesManners-qr7nl 2 месяца назад
To good HOW DO YOU CREATE THIS
@user-jd2tr9vn6v
@user-jd2tr9vn6v 2 месяца назад
Count Alexander Suvorov (1729-1800) was a Russian field marshal who commanded Russian-Austrian forces in Italy in 1799. Having received orders to help Russian troops in Switzerland, he made the famous march through the Alps. Memorable date in military history: September 24, 1799, troops under the command of Suvorov completed the crossing of the Alps
@sootingwhitenoise2254
@sootingwhitenoise2254 2 месяца назад
Europe is rich. They can afford it. They have even money for an underground tunnel from Gibraltar to Morocco. That will be the next MegaBuilds :)
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 месяца назад
I sure hope so. Morocco is fast becoming the most influential country in North Africa...
@cjlmoni
@cjlmoni 2 месяца назад
This project will remain at the level of a dream.
@klausolekristiansen2960
@klausolekristiansen2960 2 месяца назад
Gibraltar is not a member of the EU. The UK does not even want to spend money on their own HS2. It is very unlikely that they would fund such a tunnel.
@apveening
@apveening Месяц назад
@@klausolekristiansen2960 So start the tunnel from Tarifa, just south and west of Gibraltar.
@tiborsaas
@tiborsaas 2 месяца назад
I like you rebranded from TopLuxury, it was a bit pretentious :) I subscribed anyways, but this new name fits you much better.
@ConstantChaos1
@ConstantChaos1 Месяц назад
Just so you know the hyphen in the abbreviation means it is pronounced 10-T not tent
@TylerR909
@TylerR909 2 месяца назад
FWIW This video is the 27th video in my Watch Later playlist and its volume is really, really low compared to everything I've been watching so far.
@ricardow9281
@ricardow9281 2 месяца назад
3:24 pointing at Rotterdam in the Netherlands and saying Belgium?
@milanrastislavstefanik1918
@milanrastislavstefanik1918 2 месяца назад
The Medditerian corridor goes from Spain to Slovakia*, and no, I am not saying this to piss of Hungarians. If you look at the map of all the corridors, you can see that the Mefditerian corridor ends in Košice
@LouisWaweru
@LouisWaweru Месяц назад
Do they ever find valuable deposits along the way, like copper or heavy metals?
@markusstudeli2997
@markusstudeli2997 Месяц назад
No, apart from some bank vaults with gold bars! 🙂
@Franlol_Copilot
@Franlol_Copilot 2 месяца назад
Yo top luxury long time no see
@baystated
@baystated 2 месяца назад
What happens to all the solid rock that they drill/blast out of the tunnel's paths?
@Braun30
@Braun30 2 месяца назад
Recycled in part to make the tunnel walls with cement. In Switzerland many disused open mines have been refilled and renaturalised. There is also the reconstruction of islets in lakes where dredging for sand and gravel has ruined shorelines, so here too natural environments have been rebuilt.
@funnymime123
@funnymime123 2 месяца назад
How the hell do you transport a TBM? It seems like a massive undertaking
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 месяца назад
Assembled on site from smaller modular pieces. Same way some are taken apart in the end. Others though are left in place buried forever like some modern fossil. I find that fascinating onto itself!
@funnymime123
@funnymime123 2 месяца назад
@@stickynorth Wow, that's super fascinating. I feel like those buried TBM's are a supervillain plan waiting to happen.
@namenlos40
@namenlos40 Месяц назад
In pieces?
@lewisjames4268
@lewisjames4268 2 месяца назад
0:11 , what the heck was that line coming out of Ireland??
@LV-426...
@LV-426... 2 месяца назад
It may be a dedicated ferries line.
@MrSouthernginga
@MrSouthernginga 2 месяца назад
I like how you used mount Cook as the mountain example ;D
@arxligion
@arxligion Месяц назад
the ten-t offensive
@ShivamGhosh-cn5pt
@ShivamGhosh-cn5pt 2 месяца назад
❤❤❤
@rhino_force7679
@rhino_force7679 2 месяца назад
are you the Shivam of Caspian report?
@vinny7114
@vinny7114 2 месяца назад
In the U.S. these Tunnels would cost 400 billion dollars and take 50 years to complete while finishing and stopping at around 65% of the project.
@Joey-ct8bm
@Joey-ct8bm 2 месяца назад
No they wouldn't. You think Switzerland is a cheap country? Everything but the tunnel would be more expensive. In some places they would. In California you got earthquakes. You don't have those in the alps. You got to build earthquake proof in California. It highly depend on where you build. Don't build where you've earthquakes and it will save you some cash. The prices are just for the tunnels. It doesn't include everything else. Places like Mexico and below also bad railways, so the really have the profit of railways you need outside connections for trade.
@petterbirgersson4489
@petterbirgersson4489 Месяц назад
Lessons learned from these projects will cheapen tunnel construction further in the future.
@markusstudeli2997
@markusstudeli2997 Месяц назад
Until now, costs went always up, regardless of the learnings! I doubt the Brenner will end up being cheaper than the Gotthard.
@petermetero1180
@petermetero1180 2 месяца назад
Is this Top Luxury New?
@LV-426...
@LV-426... 2 месяца назад
Yes.
@somerandomguyonyoutube6433
@somerandomguyonyoutube6433 2 месяца назад
Top luxury to Megabuild???
@user-cl2my7sw4v
@user-cl2my7sw4v 2 месяца назад
yeah top luxury was dumb name anyway they dont review jewelry or yahts
@fh_faysal
@fh_faysal 2 месяца назад
Kireh😕
@udzifzxj
@udzifzxj 2 месяца назад
This isn’t belgium 3:20 its rotterdam in the netherlands
@joshgamingvlogs5203
@joshgamingvlogs5203 Месяц назад
Put it in MILESSSSS
@syeddaniyal7526
@syeddaniyal7526 2 месяца назад
Dragon ball z theme park in saudi arabia nexf.
@superlight575
@superlight575 2 месяца назад
Hi
@MegaBuildsYT
@MegaBuildsYT 2 месяца назад
Hi :)
@LeagueofJay137
@LeagueofJay137 2 месяца назад
Meanwhile the train sysytem in the USA...
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 месяца назад
Like nuclear power plants, the upfront costs may seem shockingly high but over the lifespan of the project? Peanuts! All tunnels that help link Earth together are wanted and needed including the Tangiers-Gibraltar tunnel and potentially bridge and tunnels connecting Indonesia to Singapore and Malaysia as well as the Bering Strait tunnel if and when Russian leadership changes, that is...
@patrickr7668
@patrickr7668 Месяц назад
Disappointing that there was no discussion of the economics
@user-sn4nm7go3r
@user-sn4nm7go3r 2 месяца назад
Just hope you don't get buried in one, if something happens.
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 2 месяца назад
Funny to show the Gornergrat rack railway which is for tourist traffic and has nothing to do with the EU corridors.
@markusstudeli2997
@markusstudeli2997 Месяц назад
There were other similar shots that have nothing to do with the corridors, like the Albula line with the Landwasser viaduct.
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 Месяц назад
@@markusstudeli2997 Yes, usually they make a long sermon and play nice takes that have nothing to do with the sermon. The outcome is a YT video. Btw: The Albula line is in some way an Alpine corridor as it has been replaced by a long tunnel that provides a much more weather-independent connection to the Engadin.
@shehan-394
@shehan-394 2 месяца назад
What if they didnt meet in the middle😂😂
@namenlos40
@namenlos40 Месяц назад
Then they have 4 tunnels :-)
@jimbaker2039
@jimbaker2039 2 месяца назад
Shot of Canadian national rail, just saying..
@BertMeuwis
@BertMeuwis Месяц назад
Switzerland isn’t part of EU so technically it’s not EU who planned the Swisss base tunnels. Altough it was sort of a compromise: higher road taxes on trucks and in return the tunnels would be built. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRLA
@mylo_vis
@mylo_vis 2 месяца назад
Monaco? Really
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 2 месяца назад
You could also inform yourself how to pronounce 'Lötschberg Tunnel' instead of 'Lotschberg Tunnel'. The two dots are not for neglect.
@groskouike2972
@groskouike2972 2 месяца назад
Looking4 youtube vidéo 🤔
@MartinStottele-ye3nw
@MartinStottele-ye3nw Месяц назад
You might want to revise the video since some of the information is not correct. All 3 tunnels mentioned located in Switzerland - the Loetschberg, Gotthard and Monte Ceneri tunnels - were entirely financed by the Swiss Federation and the EU did not contribute a sigle Euro to it.
@Joey-ct8bm
@Joey-ct8bm 2 месяца назад
The problem with the passenger trains is that flying is way cheaper and faster in Europe. They are making train travel way too expensive. Especially outside the summer vacation months i would never take the train for long rides. I flew from Brussel to Hungary and back for 35 euro's. There's no way i'm getting into a sleeper train for 22 hours and pay close to 200 euro's on a deal. You can find deal for flights all across Europe for under a 100 Euro's. Flying is always cheaper. Do not take the train from Switzerland to Italy through the tunnel in Switzerland as a tourist. You'll miss the prettiest views in the world. That would be the biggest mistake you'll ever make.
@FlaviOT0115
@FlaviOT0115 Месяц назад
The choice is influenced by: the wetness (the larger the luggage, the more convenient the train) the time (there are waiting times at airports, while those at trains are almost nil). Speaking of Italian trains (FrecciaRossa and Italo) The seats are much more comfortable even in economy class than in the plane. There are charging points and free internet (WiFi), you can continue with your project or stay on the pc without much problem.
@defcut87
@defcut87 2 месяца назад
I like this chanel but but Lötschberg and Gotthard tunnels are in Switzerland. We are not in the EU!
@LV-426...
@LV-426... 2 месяца назад
You are de facto though, especially economically.
@nachbarslumpi7093
@nachbarslumpi7093 Месяц назад
Well done, but I would have preferred footage of European railways, no us and no Russian. Thanks.
@superlight575
@superlight575 2 месяца назад
First to comment
@SwissPGO
@SwissPGO Месяц назад
Video author keeps mentioning the european union in the first 5 minutes (when I write this comment) but most of the video pictures Swiss trains, bridges and tunnels. And Switzerland is not part of the european union. The swiss actually stated most of this because they wanted to reduce the amount of trucks going through and polluting their country, so most of them are now transiting switzerland on trains through those tunnels.
@superlight575
@superlight575 2 месяца назад
And first to like
@clee79
@clee79 Месяц назад
To the editor: This video is extremely superficially researched and is full of hair-raising errors that could be corrected even by simply reading the Wikipedia.
@cdracing
@cdracing 2 месяца назад
JOVIAL JARROD AND THE KIDS CHOIR
@neeallsevak
@neeallsevak 2 месяца назад
Man you guys haven't checked in INDIA tunnels in Leh-Ladakh & in Manali tunnels. Not sure you guys have checked, ✌🏻😅
@jimbobbob9063
@jimbobbob9063 2 месяца назад
All these tunnels are cheaper than money for Ukraine
@FarhanArsyah1212
@FarhanArsyah1212 2 месяца назад
First😊
@truthseeker1278
@truthseeker1278 Месяц назад
If U wanna B taken more serious U should not wildly mix up rail lines. Especially not show one-way ones, made 4 tourist sake only, while talking of outdated transit-networks!
@RTSRafnex2
@RTSRafnex2 2 месяца назад
Ah.. Switzerland. famous for being a member of the EU... 🙃
@cdracing
@cdracing 2 месяца назад
LOL. HIS NAME IS REGINA.
@ajvhan
@ajvhan 25 дней назад
South of Europe? Really?
@RVDL
@RVDL 2 месяца назад
Wonder if The Boring Company is helping out with better tunnel boring machines?
@diehardDanny
@diehardDanny Месяц назад
This video is so riddled with inaccuracies I'm mad I can give it only one thumbs down. At the time Switzerland started building its base tunnels the EU was forcing them to accept more truck transits or face severe economic consequences. There was no european rail initiative. Those base tunnels, which were all built for freight and not people transport in the first place, were sort of a leverage against even more truck transits congesting all the alpine roadways and polluting the air. To make it worse, some of the transmodal infrastructure in Northern Italy had to be paid for with swiss tax payers money (eg. rail hub Novara, Luino line) because the Italians couldn't get their shit together. We're talking 9 figure grants, not loans. Also no idea what the cog railroads shown should have to do with alpine transit (actually nothing). A lot of the stock footage clearly from NA, not Europe and as such adding to the confusion.
@jeancompte5848
@jeancompte5848 25 дней назад
Quit your yammering, nobody cares
@godfreygalea8181
@godfreygalea8181 Месяц назад
It hurts me to hear you misprounce the word 'route'. Is it possible that at school you do not learn the correction pronouciation?
@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon
@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon 2 месяца назад
You forgot to put a space between Mega and Builds. I was expecting more from you guys. Unsubscribed
@kategf1999
@kategf1999 2 месяца назад
Free Palestine ❤🇵🇸
@___MilkMan___
@___MilkMan___ 2 месяца назад
🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
@kategf1999
@kategf1999 2 месяца назад
@@___MilkMan___ Cry harder 😂
@___MilkMan___
@___MilkMan___ 2 месяца назад
@@kategf1999 I don’t need to cry, I’m not the one needing to comment “free paliland” on videos that have nothing to do with it. Sorry you’ve bought in to the rhetoric and fail to realize Palestine is terrorist state
@kategf1999
@kategf1999 2 месяца назад
@@___MilkMan___ Palestinian only killed like 20 Israel soldier and Israel kill 20k people and you still support it?! Whats wrong with you. u need to open your eyes
@___MilkMan___
@___MilkMan___ 2 месяца назад
@@kategf1999 Israel weren’t the ones that came over the border and killed over 1200 civilians for nothing but hatred. They’re killing able bodied men who are armed. And unfortunately civilians die in every war, it’s unavoidable, but it isn’t Israel’s goal. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about
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