@@robsimer9296 Errrr? Ummmm? It'll come to me in a minute. It's right on the tip of my tongue. No. Ask me one on advanced thermo nuclear dynamics. It's not rocket science, is it?
No one elected the damned EU beaurocrats to dictate matters that belong strictly to the sovereignty of the EU nations. DO NOT PAY THE FINE! That fine is unconstitutional!
Yes but crying on internet won't help either we literally are watching this f politicians running our countries completely to the ground and potentially in war with Russia and here we are crying in RU-vid 💀 we let this ppl do whatever they want as it seems
They gave up their sovereignty when they joined the EU as all EU member states did. They didn't like being under the heel of the Russians when they were part of the former Soviet Union and the first chance they got of real freedom they swapped Russian masters for EU masters. Now the EU masters are telling them what to do just like the Russians did and will the EU use military force to bring Hungary back into line like the Russians did. If you join an exclusive club then you have to obey that club's rules and you don't get a choice. Freedom that they longed for, for so long would allow them to make their choice free of any constraints like the EU but Hungary doesn't seem to like true freedom.
Hungary should join the BRICS as soon as possible, no point to hang around, this sick EU leadership all together. Europe is finished, they good for nothing, with this unelected leaders, they all can only go lower, and deeper in the mess.
@@MrReubenTishkoff They are sovereign, but only partially, they agreed to relinquish partial control over many areas such as border control, there's still some leeway though, as seen during covid, so it's not really as extreme as you're saying, it's just that there's a balance and that really varies depending on the matter at hand.
I am Irish. We should all leave the EU. It was set up for trading within the EU but has turned into a dictatorship where individual countries have no power within their own countries. LETS ALL LEAVE NOW
Absolutely. The Trade deals and One monetary unit are the ONLY things that should be talked about, ALL other matters are for the Sovereign Countries to Discuss, NOT EU "Stand over Bullies". THIS is why Britain Got Out.
@@yvonneforsman8649 Then they could set up their own European Economic Community as the UK voted for in1974 before the political power grab which we didn't. The UK might even vote to join it.
@@keithhutchins8966 And then start it all over again, setting progress back 5 decades! Can´t you see that what starts as a EEC has no other option but to evolve into EU, or else colapse and be eaten by US, China, and all the other EU-hating, envious, racist, dictatorial Nations of the world?
I am in an EU country at the moment, and it is appalling to take Hungary's voice away. That is not a democracy nor the EU we were promised. We did not sign up for a single centralised dictatorial rule. EU is hijacked.
Exactly!!! U von der Liar needs to be gone to destroy something else! I am from Europe, what I am watching, online, is really upsetting!!! Europe needs to free itself!
I have news for you : I have never met anyone who voted to be part of the EU. quite the contrary, everyone voted against it in the early '70s. politicians were bribed with yachts to sign us up against our will #FREXIT
As a Hungarian, I take that 200 mill as a long term investment into my country's future. EU parliament will change soon anyway, then let's fine those who let illegals in.
@@avrilclelland3379 yes, that is a real possibilty, Turkey joining Bricks is gonna make the dollar fall even faster! EU is corrupt and the gloBalists have their hands all over it! I hope Hungary and Poland will stand up to them, and give them nothing!
THAT'S JUST IT?!!! AS THE HUNGARIANS - DO PROTECT - THEIR OWN COUNTRY, MEAN WHILE, THEY ARE PROTECTING THEM - EUP. - MEMBERS TOO!!! SO WHATS THE PROBLEM? G E O R G E S O R O S IS AGAINST HUNGARY, UNDER HANDEDLY, UNDER MINES HUNGARY, THROUGH - EUP. - A TRATOR SOROS IS!!! - !!!
@@jerry36852 to be fair Brussels, or as we call it, New Mecca is already full of Muslims, hell a Muslim party even got a seat in the parlement. So as a belgian I moved to hungary and can I must say life is better for me :D
This is one of the few clear instances where the EU showed its true colours, and why it should´ve never grown beyond its original purpose as the European Economic Community.
BEFORE THEY WOULD, HUNGARY SHOULD BRING THE - EUP. - TO T HE INTERNATIONAL COURT! BE - CAUS, THE - EUP. - OWES, A HUGE / GREAT DEAL OF MONEY, TO HUNGARY!! THEY PAYED THE PROTECTING FENCES, ALL BY THEMSELVES, PROTECTING THE - EUP. - BURECRATIC ASSES, FROM VIOLANT, ILLEGAL MIGRANTS!!! TO PUT IT INTO MORE STRONGER WORDS! WELL?! - EUP. - PAY UP, AND STAY PUT, FOR YOUR IN A VERY DEEP - DEEP KAKA OF DEBT. AGAINST THE HUNGARIANS! IF THEY DONT PROTECT YOU DO NOTHINGS, NONE OF YOU COULD GO AGAINST HUNGARY!! - !! ALL OF YOU SHOULD T H A N K H U N G A R Y, SO YOU BUREACRETS STILL EGG - SIST!! = OH, YOUR WELCOME!! =
are you out of your mind? Orban, with the right of veto, has been bothering the EU stopping a lot of major rulings that are shared by most countries, and all of that while being the head of one of the smallest, weaker state. The right of veto should be abolished, it should be dicided out of majority. And I say that as a european.
@@purplerobin92 I'm truly astonished that Europeans seem to have forgotten what happened the last time a bunch of elitists got together in Germany with aspirations of global domination. Yet there are so many spineless sheep in Europe that are falling over each other to let it happen again.
@@purplerobin92 You are crazy. I'm sick and tired of these scumbags. We the Dutch never wanted to be in the EU, it was forced on us by deceit and lies. (We actually had a referendum about this and voted AGAINST joining the EU, same goes for we not wanting to support Ukraine)
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@@NeraBuffy So Hungary, which is the external border of the EU is fined for patrolling the external border, so the money could be spent on patrolling the external border, right?
@mariatereziagallo5302 yeah the fines of a country doing a job the union was supposed to prevent are very suspicious. It's like it's all on purpose to destabilise the union and make it more manageable for the taking between russia,china and middle eastcaliphate.
Yes fining a country for something the existence of the union was supposed to prevent is very suspicious. It's just motivating destabilising the union to make manageable smaller pieces easier to share between the two eastern communist countries and middle-estern returning caliphate.
YES - YES WALK AWAY! I AGREE! BUT N O T U N T I L THE - EUP. - PAYES UP, THE DEBT OF MONEY TO HUNGARY! THEY , THE - EUP. - BETTER SHUT UP, INSTEAD THREATENING??!
I was in Brussels 7 months ago and the 'multicultural' neighbourhoods I saw on the train ride in were as graffiti-covered, ominous and ghetto as anything I've ever seen- a look that extends well into historic downtown areas. My local Brussels guide had warned me not to get off at two particularly dangerous stations "at any cost" where announcements warned "pickpockets and luggage thieves may be in both the stations and the trains". THIS is the nightmare Brussels wants to dump on every other country in the EU. Orban is right.
The EU is totally self serving. Well done to Hungary for not taking the crap that the EU tries to push on them. Maybe they should keep their contributions instead of giving it to the likes of Von de layen. We never got back what we paid in. Keep your country safe and immigrant free
Poland will pay EU some how managed to scam Donald Tusk in as prime minister or president he has done everything up to now that EU wanted he is communist EU agent .
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Oh, no, they deserve much worse. The eastern European countries Karma is the destroy the EU from within. We are witnessing History right now. Orban is playing Chess, The EU is playing Checkers.
Refuse to pay the fines. Let the EU kick you out and watch it unravel. Let the world see what totalitarian bullies the Eu really are. Hungary was very wise to keep it's own currancy - others not so fortunate and trapped fiscally by joining the Euro even if they do not like what it has morphed into.
The anti democratic EU are still doing their best to make us pay for leaving their politburo and believe me, they will persecute Hungary relentlessly until they are broke if necessary
Seems to me Europe is moving to the right just as we are going to have a Labour government but I suppose we never seem to ever be in line with what the Europeans do
Poland and Hungary have it in their own hands. Refuse to pay the fines and depart from the EU forthwith along with what our cowards and traitors won't do. Leave the ECHR.
Unfortunately for Poland, we got a traitor Donald Tusk as our prime minister now. He has been sent from EU by Von Der Leyen with a special mission to stop our economic progression, something Germany didn’t like too much.
Traitor Donald Tusk, currently our prime minister has been sent by Von der Leyen with a mission to stop Poland’s economic progression, because Germany doesn’t like it. 😬
This is practically open blackmail. It's a joke when this court is afraid of the rule of law, when it itself goes beyond the legal framework. I would like to know on what basis the amount was calculated, and what other countries will receive as punishment after this. The checks and balances disappeared from the EU, it became an open dictatorship. If Russia subjugates Ukraine, they will be in big trouble. Not because they would be attacked, this is simple false propaganda, but because they receive Russian raw materials and energy carriers through us. And then we won't forget...
NATO should actually remain, as if there's no NATO then you exactly KNOW what Russia is gonna do afterwards. I and many others want to be at least somewhat protected from an invasion.
The EU came into being as the Common Market, not in itself a bad idea. But what it has become is a monstrous, many-headed Hydra that will strike at all comers from all directions. Time to put it to sleep.
Belgium is over run by illegals. Brussel has 70% more illegals then own residents !!!!Hague has 58% more, Rotterdam has 60 % more then their own people. !!! I hope Orban and Poland will not allow that to them !!! And the rest of the small counties. !And that is happening on North America too. !!!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully. The EU either needs drastically reforms to turn it back into the economic group it was supposed to be, or it should be disbanded. They have no right to tell us to take in illegals, especially considering how they are destroying Western Europe
Eastern Europeans should become allies with Russia and then look what happens in Europe. They will lose their buffer zones and that will make them look weak. Weaks make always mistakes! All those Slavic nations should realign with their relative countries.
Sadly Poland not as strong as Hungary. They now have Tusk as their PM. I think they still have their own currancy though which could leave them an escape route when the Ukraine fiasco comes to an end , unless Tusk forces them to adopt the Euro.
@@phosphoros6193No, no we should not. The Russians are, and have always been, our primary oppressors and enemies. We need to be able to defend ourselves against Russia. Speaking similar languages doesn’t mean anything when your neighbours perpetually invade you and kill your people for hundreds of years.
@@iainreid9822 He knew what he was talking about if he was the first to understand that the Soviet Union was not working. Pretty amazing that they managed to shut down the crap without it being a revolution.
Even less of democracy than Russia and that is saying something. The EU is run by unelected members of the commission and the judges of ECHR. The parliament is just a rubber stamp with no power. And this is what Starmer and Sunak to a lesser extent want to take us back too.
As a Pole - I think that protecting the country's borders is way more important than what any European judge or panel of judges has to say about this. If the EU officials do not allow us to protect our citizens, I think it's really about time to say goodbye to the EU. Yes - it will have a terrible impact on our economy, but at least we will keep our country.
Not very democratic, is it? Hungary should stick 2 fingers up at the EU and just pull out and not pay the fine. Do you know the EU has never had its accounts ratified EVER, that is illegal!
Hungary must refuse to pay this so called fine. What an outrage. It may be easier for them to leave the EU by being kicked out than by applying to leave. How dare the EU order a nation state how many immigrants to bring in? They should tell the EU where to get off. They're meant to be a trading bloc, nothing more.