EUROVISION 2024 - Grand Final Review 

Disappointed with the winner,relatively happy with the overall results.

A complete circus. With Netherlands out 🤡 Israel 2 on televote 🤡🤡 Angelina 7th(?????) 🤡🤡🤡🤡

Relatively happy with the winner,disappointed with the overall results

Very disappointed for Lithuania, kinda disappointed for Italy but so proud and so happy for Switzerland 💗

Dissapointing ending, people's choice didn't win again and this was a perfect time for Croatia to finally win, I'm resenting Eurovision now and it's given me a major heartbreak

😂😂😂

Yes. Not a massive fan of the interval entertainment in general.

😂😂😂

I have anches and pains just for have watched her 😂

Hahahahaha 😅 So funny beacause it’s so true.

Love him. He's the real deal, the proof that industry cannot look beyond the ends of their own noses. People respond to him and his music globally but he couldn't get arrested industry wise until a basic accident propelled him into the public sphere.

they literally gave him 210 points though

​@@kevanmcdougallmph22 countries gave Swiss 12 points while the ones that didn't give 12 still gave something while only 2 countries gave Croatia 12 points and some of them gave nothing, and Croatia was clearly fan favorite while Swiss would be 5th according to people. Rigged and there's no way to make this whole LGBT propaganda and their whole ordeal to make any sense other than promoting their ways, period, people chose their winner, juries chose politics, thats about it

​@@darkoperisic2958 Lmao what the fuck are you on about? The format has been the exact same since 2009 (except that in 2023 and 2024 there's no jury vote in the SF) - since then, with the exception of 2015, 2023 and 2024, the televote winner has placed at least as high or higher than the jury winner in the final result. If anything, the SFs being televote only could be making jury-friendly songs like Denmark, Belgium, and maybe even Australia fall by the wayside while sending televote-friendly songs through to the Grand Final - so countries like Switzerland which are OK in the televote and have good vocals (one of the best vocals of the night, compositionally ambitious and well-put together) get a huge jury boost because there are so few jury-friendly songs remaining, while televote votes are shared among the many televote-friendly songs! Croatia also placed 3rd with the juries; it's not as if the juries totally ignored Croatia...

@@Kernel15 rofl you literally said everything yourself with that "huge jury boost", nothing else to talk about here

You should be super proud!

Interesting to see if the Swiss entry gets the same treatment in his home country, I kid, we know he won't. Nothing about that carefully constructed jury bait speaks to people because it is simply not genuine,

Yesss my friend send me videos of it and he said even he cried in the crowd lmao

@@Ryan-mm1oj happy / proud tears

❤ from 🇺🇦😼🤩

Rim Tim Tagi Dim will live forever in our hearts, you can be sure of that !

Yess!!!!

I agree and I’m happy with this result but I’d like to push back a little on the idea that art is completely separate from politics, at least as far as Ukraine’s popularity is concerned (I’m not going to talk about Israel). Like if you look at art history and how we understand it, there’s politics everywhere. Baroque art doesn’t make sense without all the religious wars and upheaval at that time; romantism doesn’t make sense without the national liberal revolutions; realism without the social consciousness; dada and surrealism are one reaction to world war one; post-war abstract art is obviously shaped by world war two etc etc. Politics is part of our world, it shapes everything and art reacts to it. I guess just because a country like Ukraine is undergoing war, it doesn’t mean it can’t produce good art. On the contrary, I’d say that its art will probably be more powerful, deeper and more important to Ukrainians. And other people will probably be better able to resonate with Ukraine’s art as a result. Popularity is about how well your work resonates with people. And you can’t deny that Ukraine’s performance was top class. And one of the things that made the performance so strong was the fact that it wasn’t just frivolous, the lyrics and visuals had deeper meaning because they were supported by real life events, they weren’t empty. Not to say other entries were empty but everyone could understand what Ukraine was singing about, all over the world. However, it’s not just that, Ukraine have consistently been top class - the only country that qualified every single time. It’s also one of the poorest countries in the competition, so that forces them to be creative and smart. Plus their culture is really at the intersection of many other cultures, east, west, south, north, they have a bit of everything and I think that’s why they are so good at speaking to everyone. Last but not least, last two decades are the first time in history that the rest of the world takes them and their culture seriously and that gives you a certain inner strength, inner fire. So I think it’s not just “political support” when people like and vote for Ukraine. They have liked it and voted for it since it joined the competition. I think there’s certainly something political but to strip that away from art would render a lot of art meaningless.

Yes, I think the same

Yes as a Brit I was so happy that he did so well. A strong song and even stronger vocals. Well done Germany.

@@yodenmanand his emotion! Like he put himself into the song when he performed. And his flag jacket too 😂

We are so happy with the 12th place...most germans think we are 24-25- like normal Thank you giving us this joy:-)

I voted for Germany!! Love from Portugal 🎉

I think he may get his own statue for this. Bless him.

Seems like it’s the season of hate right now, people can’t seem to tolerate someone else being happy

Yes music is very taste based and this year the public taste showed clearly Nemos song wasnt rly their taste as he finished 5th. Instead of the music being for people it is a music for fellow musicians who are part of the jurys. Music for musicians is perverted. I am sorry but you cannot finish 5th in public vote and still end up 1st by a mile. It happened last year aswell when Finland got snubbed even though they heavily outperformed Sweden in public vote and yet it wasnt enough due to jury having wastly diferent taste. But atleast Loreen was still second in public vote. Eurovision have massive jury problem and its only gonna get worse.

Loreen was 2nd in televote. But Nemo was 5th in televote. Of course majority don't like the outcome because majority didn't vote for Nemo. If Nemo was 2nd or eventually 3rd in televote, it would be ok, but 5th? I believe that this outcome is not good for Eurosong. Too much politics and winner as 5th in televote doesn't sound good.

How does the rank matter? Its about points. Eventhought he was fifth, there were many years where the third had less points by tele, so rank is only secondary (especially when we see, that Israel only got telepoints cause of the situation, so you can consider it 4th most popular)

Uuuuh wow

Thats a great piece of trivia!! Thanks! 😊

What a coincidence! I didn’t think of that

And Yugoslavia won the year after Celine 😉

@@MM-tz2bs A couple more Johnny/Loreen coincidences: 1. Both times they won, the host venue the following year was the same (Malmö Arena in 2013 and 2016, RDS Simmonscourt in 1981 and 1988) 2. A close neighbor country won in the year following their first win (Denmark in 2013, United Kingdom in 1981)

Haha well put

Because you could vote from the start. So did they really?

Ukraine was amazing

@@mariarucci78 Ukraine definitely has their own style and vibes that can magically grab the attention and hearts of eurofans. I like this year melody, message and performance as well.

@@YPl2143 so did I, even better than last year 💪♥️🇮🇹🌟🇺🇦

Exactly my opinion. Last year I had the impression that Sweden has to win over Finland since Sweden prepares some huge homage to Abba and at the end we saw the avatars. Really sad.

I hate those stupid avatars. Just a tacky money grab. They fall flat to me, I would rather just play a record at home than watch that robotic mess. ABBA could have bothered to show their faces, even just one of them would have been nice.

After the success of the Liverpool Song book last year I was expecting an ABBA songbook. Conchita doing Winner Takes It All. Carola doing Mamma Mia. Schlarger Charlie doing .....well ...Waterloo I guess since she kinda won with a rip off it and at least she couldn't be worse than Eli and Nicki were in Baku. Bring back Mans for Does Your Mother Know. Loreen with something. Serteb Erener with Dancing Queen.

He didn't deserve it and I hope Croatia boycots the contest.

@lemonstealinghorse go away, nobody needs your negativity. Croatia still achieved their best ever result and can be proud of that!

@@alittlechese2567 Negativity is a great Slavic way be better. In spite of the others.

No sad no tears He IS are prince, King 🫅

Hi from Italy, all my family voted for Baby Lasagna❤

I still feel icky from it 😅 can't believe that Croatia didn't win 💔

Yesss, countries not in Western Europe would have to rely on the sponsors of the show heavily.

No, just don't compete, send a message, boycot.

​@@lemonstealinghorsethat's dumb, in all honesty

Yes I hope you turn the interest and enthusiasm into gold

I hope next year we won't participate.

@@FatherStomach No, not at all. When all of Balkans withdraws from this clown show, then the rest of them can ask themselves why. Most of the Balkans is already not competing, withdraw the rest of us so western Europeans can have their preferred club.

Thank you so much!

Bravo😻😻😻👏👏👏🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷

Yeah, i like history repeating itself😅

Only under Yugoslavia.

why not!!!

we need Baby Lasagnia epic comeback

Yes!! I am so happy for these countries!! I wish we could have more variaty each year so that each year we have different countries shine and qualify, like this year. This was refreshing. Probably my favorite thing that happened this year 😊

as it is every year, nothing new

​@@TMPOUZIThis year was much worse, including harassment and severe censorship...

This year convinced me maybe the juries should stick around after all.

True, I heard that a few countries crew were harrassed by the Israeli,. Why? Well I guess they got their way, because they got Europapa disqualified.

Great song and very well staged

Thanks for your kind words

Portugal really surprised me in the best way. They really showed that you can have simple staging and yet make it so impactful.

I think the post-Sobral renaissance is something Portugal should be immensely proud of, Festival De Cançao produces huge quality every year but it’s always something that feels very representative of Portugal rather than something that is sure to have huge broad appeal (like Sweden for example who have been sending a radio-friendly pop song year after year and doing pretty well with it). I’m CERTAIN that with this approach Portugal will have another win in the near future, but I’m just so happy that they do consistently quite well and always send something they can be proud of. Grito was in my top 5 this year, I think Iolanda is an inspiration and a star (vocals perfect EVERY time, never once saw her underperform) who stood up for her beliefs and values in the face of criticism and harassment. I’m so glad Portugal chose her. Keep sending top 5 material, Portuguese voters!!

@@MintyDragonfly I got goosebumps reading your commentary. Thank you. I think Festival da Canção provides the right structure to select its representatives to Eurovision and there’s an overall sense that the Portuguese want to be represented with authenticity. If it wins like with Salvador Sobral did in 2017 - still holding the record for most points by a winner at Eurovision - great. If not, at least it is something we Portuguese feel proud of. Sooner or later, Portugal will win again! Iolanda did a great job! Like you said, she was consistent at all times.

Angelina ha pagato l errore della tv italiana Rai che ha mandato in seconda serata le votazioni del pubblico Italiano e le percentuali di votazione che dovevano essere segrete fino alla finale un errore grave da regolamento errore da squalifica peggio del Belgio la cosa strana è che il pubblico Italiano aveva votato per quasi il 50% Israele il secondo votato solo il 9% troppo stacco. Comunque Angelina ha pagato questo errore.. Vedendo quella votazione si prevedeva una vittoria di Israel quindi la giuria a indirizzato tutti i 12 punti verso un cantante per garantire una vittoria che non fosse Israele Nemo avrebbe preso molto anche dal pubblico ma c'erano almeno 5 cantanti allo stesso livello ma i 12 punti stranamente non sono stati distribuiti equamente.. Come con la Russia altri paesi con situazioni politiche delicate non dovrebbero partecipare per non crearsi queste situazioni poco chiare a mia percezione. Mi spiace non avere visto Norvegia Austria Spagna e Georgia dalla parte sinistra del cartellone

best song this year but the performances in sanremo were better imo

Same I was so sad that he wasnt at least 2nd😢

which songs you dislike?

@@FilippRodovilski in fact only the one at 5

@@zebras54 how nice and fair of you

The stage and princess's matching earrings were impressive.

​@@olterigoi agree

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Who was being harassed? I only know that the hairdresser from Israel was fired bc of bullying other contenders.

@@i_am_human76 Joost was harassed by that ebu camera person, who wasn't supposed to be there. Just weird that this happened to the guy who spoke at that press conference right?... Right?

​@@annebokma4637Harassed by a woman who's job was literally to film everyone as part of her job??? Interesting how no one else from any of the other 36 countries didn't react like Joost...

@@OlgaF-d7v yes others reacted too. There is content showing that.. do your research. And her job was not to be in that area full stop. Her employer should have prevented this happening. The ebu is responsible for all this

I thought they would have a video message. I read somewhere that they were going to as well

I agree! My favourite channel discovery this year!

On the other hand, I really appreciate that if already a top2, the worst song of the last year's contest at least didn't win.

In that case, probably israhell would have won this year. Sometimes juries save the situation.

@@elaifull If most people want it, why is it a problem if Israel wins? Unrelated to politics, but if the country competes, then they should be given a fair chance to win. After all, that would not have happened because Croatia received the most votes from the audience. What's the point of spending our money on voting if we can't pick a winner.

@@valis25 Because isn'treal spent money to buy votes. Their whole entry was political, KAN was extremely disruptive & having a broadcaster from a country that purposefully targets journalists, while the EBU claims they are for free press is just SHAMEFUL.

​Leaving that country win would have a big conflict. You only have to watch the news. Plus, it wouldn't been a musical, but a political winner and EBU Can't afford that for the good of the contest. Croatia was wonderful and Switzerland too. The jury had to assess the greatest difficulty of a song and that is what they did. Having a crystal microphone is not as important as the pride of having delivered the best and the applause of the people. Enjoy this great achievement!

I sincerely think that a lot that happened this year happened because of their participation :/

Thank you so much for always being so supportive! it was a lot of work but mostly fun to do this ;)

Hahaha yes hopefully

It depends on what actually happened in that incident

Besa said it best - if he did something wrong let him be prosecuted for it but even if they wanted to protect the lady he allegedly verbally abused. They could have let him compete with his SF 2 performance on video. The only thing they got right this year was the winner. Nemo's right they need to fix things - for starters find sponsors who aren't from a country that comitts genocide, tries to censor criticism, bullies other contestants or weaopnises its own dispora to hand them the win for a mediocre propaganda ballad. I hate that happened and my country was one of the places the last thing happened in. Ukraine was bottom up - a huge outpouring of sympathy, this year that so called vote was orchestrated and I hate it.

I get Why he couldn't compete, investigación and all that, but still felt harsh nonetheless😢

@@gabrielaanampaguzman328 Yup initially I thought ok but now I think Besa had a point. If Joost did something wrong he should take the consequences but it shouldn't stop him competing if nothing's been proven. If they want to ensure the safety of his accuser let him compete with his semi 2 footage. I think there are going to be some hard conversations between the EBU and some of the broadcasters to stop the wheels coming off the bus and the Dutch broadcaster will be one of those with some hard questions.

I ja mislim slično, to je bilo izgurano, da Izrael ne pobedi i to 100%. Mada mi je simpatičan i pjesma je dobra koliko i od Marka.

Oh sorry to hear that 🤗

😂😂😂😂 what more can he say?

Its crazy its party 😂

That‘s crazy, I didn‘t know that! Nemo deserved it so much!

Is it also the largest difference between the juries and the public? Because Croatia was nr 1 for the public and only received 12 points from one jury.

Thanks for the statistics, wonderful! I voted for nemo and croatia, but thought that such an arty song would not make it this year, and after all the sad and angry sentiments in the wake of the final i thought a happysong would be the winner in the end, but... i was so so so wrong. Congrats switzerland!

@@lukastemberger croatia got 2 12 points from the jurys but it still goes with your point

@@MatthewEade-hj6tf True, yeah...

As someone who has usually likes Croatia , it Hurt see that "horrible entries " 😅 My favorite in 2022 ,feel so bad for 2021 ,rooting for them in 2023 and well..this year I like them but with time 😅

If I was in charge of the EBU I would allow up to 30 votes per person but with a limit of a max of 5 votes for a country. More money for the EBU, more fair televoting results.

@@vaniacosta75 i don't think that would make it fairer. But it would definitely mean more Money for the EBU and that's obviously their Main goal in general

​@@ShinjiSings But would stop the block voting for 1 single country. In the UK voting only costs 15p. I am originally from Portugal so I can afford to vote 20 for Portugal, I don't do it because I like to vote on my other favourites as well so I always end up voting for 4/5 countries. But I believe that there are a lot of people that just vote for the flag x20 rather than the songs.

@@vaniacosta75 would it though? People would vote 5 times for the same country and just stop. Especially those who only want to vote politically. But imagine that, if you want to vote for one country you were forced to also vote for 4-9 others. It would mean that the end result would be a lot broader.

​@@ShinjiSingsthey'd still be limited to just 5 votes instead of 20 though so it's an improvement?

2022, 2021, 2019, 2018, 2016 off the top of my head

@@eurovisionhistories oh WOW. That’s a lot just recently. I had no idea because it doesn’t FEEL like it haha! Thank you!! 🙏🏻

Also in 2017 Portugal won both the juries AND the televote, so that year juries and the public actually agreed for once 😅

Best Swiss entry ever

Gjon's Tears staging was dreadful, though. Pity as it was a fantastic song. Nemo had it all - and more!

@@helensheridan4502 Loved the staging. It was so fitting. Gjon over Nemo evey hour of the day

Croatia was on the second level of the green room between Spain and Austria

Norway’s last place shocked me. I had them in the top 15.

Every country gets *votes* from every other country. It’s just that only the top 12 scorers from each jury/televote are converted into points. The current system strikes a good balance. Transferring all votes into Eurovision points for the entire starting field would only lead to a more chaotic broadcast and would result in the end of the iconic douze points to jury vote winners during the jury call-in.

The EBU can't force Sweden to rehost. It cost's a lot of money and would net far less.

Innocent or guilty, Joost Klein's appearance in the final (if allowed) would've hurt him and The Netherlands anyway.

This was one of the positives this year :) It also seems that more people watched the live streams of the national finals of other countries.

@@pnass1 Yes I think so. People watched more national finals due to several being streamed on RU-vid

And the recap in Semi Final 2

I believe because the police was involved that hurt his chances to be in the final 😢

I was really disappointed that Norway ended up last… I still don’t get it. Last year I had the same anger with Germany’s results. I’m half French & half Spanish by the way ( I didn’t get how Spain got more points than Norway… the lyrics were fun, but the song was not that great and the singer was disappointing).

This is shocking really, no one should receive zero, cmon

The performance was super cringe. The idea of staging was amazing, but the actual perfomance was super cringe. All my gay friends hated it

I love Spains song! Her performance just lacked energy sadly

Exactly!

Because people are relieved. This result means that there will be an ESC next year. Hopefully a better one without some of the top of the EBU. Had that horrible country won, loads of other broadcasters would've pulled out, which would nix the ESC. Also, Nemo is really, really, REALLY good. It was NOT a generic pop song & their vocals were absolutely ON POINT while they were standing on point on the balancing prop. This was a deserved win, although i might have preferred others. With Loreen, it was a generic pop song, i heard some off notes & to me it felt like the juries simply handed the victory to Sweden.

@@LeafHuntress I just think it’s stupid because if Israel was not in it people would be so mad but people are biased even to the point of being hateful

@@LeafHuntress I never said that Nemo didn't deserve it. They clearly are a very talented artist! Also I never talked about Israel? I was only talking about Finland and Sweden last year and Croatia and Switzerland this year. I agree that people aren't as outraged this year probably because they consider Switzerland's song better than Sweden's song last year. However this doesn't change the fact that Nemo placed worse with the public vote than Loreen did. The public's 5th place winning is way more disappointing than the public's 2nd place winning.

I am pissed. Music is all about how people respond to it, the end. Any artist who has longevity has something that the public across the globe responds to because it speaks to them across borders, cultures, and languages. BL was that guy this year. Nemo, sorry, was not. I wouldn't cross the road for that song, and it's not even a song that represents what he does outside the competition, as he is a rapper normally. It was disingenuous jury bait. BL is such a genuine presentative in his art and himself and people smell that and respond to it.

Agree I was 😲 when they finish last common.

I totally agree with your point.

For me it just didn't televise very well. His microphone seemed too quiet. I do feel bad though because Olly seems lovely.

@@CallistoTheWarriorQueen it’s not a question of microphone but the price paid for a too risque’ performance. In addition, the song was ok and the voice was ok, nothing outstanding

I'm against LGBTQ+ and dislike them. But I only HATE against a certain cult, the biggest cult in the world.

@@CallistoTheWarriorQueen

The live performance impressed me so much that I added it to my Spotify mini-playlist