EV Basics: How to preheat your EV

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Cold mornings (or extremely hot days) are no match for an EV. Most can preheat (or precool) your car on a timer or from the comfort of your home using an app.
I show how to do it in a Hyundai IONIQ 5 and old Nissan Leaf but the concept works for any EV with functionality (sorry, original MG ZS EV and MG 5 EV owners).
Here's how it works!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:28 - Setting a climate control timer (in IONIQ 5)
01:51 - And now a Nissan LEAF
02:18 - Starting climate control using an app
02:58 - Setting the climate control timer using the app
03:56 - Subscribe, like and all that

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@tonybkent 2 года назад

In the e-tron we just use the app from indoors about 10-15 minutes before departure time. We don't worry about eating into range as journeys are mostly quite short, meaning we don't have to be plugged in to use it. It takes about 1 or 2 percent. Remote defrost without leaving an engine running on the driveway is one of the best things about driving electric. 👍

@wobby1516 2 года назад

I do mine from the house on the Kia app. Why, because unlike some we don’t have any set routine. 10 mins before we leave I turn the air on on and the car is toasty seat and steering wheel is warm. Simple.

@gordonbradford4054 2 года назад

I wish I could get Pre heat to work on my EV6!! I logged a call with KIA on 10th November, but KIA have been unable to rectify the problem!!

@therealjetlag 2 года назад

Same here. As I’m packing my bag, I kick off the pre-condition from my phone. I finish getting ready and, when I get to the car, the screens are clear and cabin is toasty. Takes about 1% of battery. I did have it on a schedule at first, but I don’t always leave at the same time.

@mikehedrick6544 2 года назад

@@gordonbradford4054 Check the vehicle time and see if the AM/PM is correct for the clock. Make sure other functions of the app are okay. Just suggestions and I hope you get it resolved.

@johnlester6113 2 года назад

Amazing! At 93 I remember when we had to go all the way across the room to change to the only other TV channel!!

@David34981 2 года назад

Those expensive lenses you bought are definitely worth their money!!

@Banyan314 2 года назад

Good to see you back on the Tube !

@KimBuckie 2 года назад

Thank you Andrew, really helpful

@jb-lu4vo Год назад

Amazing, thanks for the video and take care.

@judebrown4103 2 года назад

Forgot to admire the nature shots, they were lovely and much appreciated, well done that man!

@MrEV 2 года назад

Thanks Jude! I have to justify buying those lenses...

@briandowling8372 2 года назад

What a great video! thanks Andrew. I loved that you also included the older Leaf in it. I have an older Zoe and it has preheating settings in the car but I've never touched that. I usually set from the app, or lately I've been using an automation with home assistant based on the outside temperature.

@MrEV 2 года назад

Thanks Brian - that sounds amazing to automate it like that!

@briandowling8372 2 года назад

@@MrEV It sounds more complicated than it is really. There's a Kia/Hyundai integration for Home Assistant that should allow the same on yours. Also, Nikki over at Transport Evolved did a video recently on a similar setup with her Chevrolet Bolt.

@SebastianFleischhacker 2 года назад

Nice to see it in two different EVs.

@UntrainingUltrarunner 2 года назад

One of the many great features of my EV. I’m reminded every time I have to scrape ice off the inside of my ICE car.

@RoaldHemel35 2 года назад

We use this feature a lot with our 2016 Tesla Model S and 2017 Fiat 500e (via the My500e dongle). Even our “older” 2013 Volvo V60 PHEV can do this on electricity (or on diesel when not plugged in) with the VOC app. Great video!

@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 2 года назад

Thanks Andrew. As you know from owning one this feature is available on the e-Niro too...We’ve never used it though as the car lives in an open sided barn and with the weather here in the Poitou-Charente...Ah! the retired life...no school runs and no office to go to. 😊

@kash748 2 года назад

Great video,very informative..I've got a cupra formentor phev and do the departure time via the app and it's great to get up to a nice pre warmed car (and steering wheel!)

@zilspeed 2 года назад

I use the remote climate button on the app for our Kona all the time. Ideal for when leaving at random times.

@zilspeed 2 года назад

@@garysmith5025 - I'm sure I have that working but now you've made me doubt it.

@Bazbolly Год назад

Does the car have to be charging for this to work. Thanks

@davidcardus9088 2 года назад

Great video, I have to confess I haven’t a clue if my polestar does it, the app is limited but I keep it in a garage … I’m going to have a play 👍🏼👍🏼

@TheEVside 2 года назад

Got to love a Timelapse and a pre-heat

@MrEV 2 года назад

I'm going to find an excuse to do it in every video!

@bernardcharlesworth9860 2 года назад

Same on my electric builders van it's great .

@maak666 2 года назад

One thing I learnt is that if you do this whilst the car is plugged in even at 100% it'll use the house power to do the pre-heat to save the SoC.

@peebeenojay Год назад

The microwave 'ding' when it's done defrosting is everything.

@EVBrief 2 года назад

Great video! Thanks Andrew! Really wish Hyundai would see to making the app control available in markets like Australia, because it's a huge USP for brands like Tesla and Polestar.

@MrEV 2 года назад

I can't believe you don't have the app already?! Madness.

@BryanQA 2 года назад

Top tip, still waiting for my Ioniq 5, it's been delayed until March, luckily we're in no hurry.

@MrEV 2 года назад

It'll be worth the wait!

@johnwilkins2023 2 года назад

Great Video Andrew, keep the short tips videos coming as getting first EV on Saturday and need the tips. Here’s a question for you…is it better to schedule charging via car or via the Zappi? If by the car then what mode do you set Zappi to, FAST I assume?

@andrewdelamere5601 2 года назад

As a new and frustrated KIA EV6 owner this is interesting…I believe the KIA and this Ionic, in many respects to be a very similar car with lots of shared technology, however KIA as yet have not been able to solve some heating related issues particularly the remote heating through the KIA app…it doesn’t work ..the suggestion by KIA to date seems to be that the issue is software related. I wonder if any Ioniq 5 forums are reporting any similar issues. Great video by the way.

@krisstewart2036 2 года назад

I have a Kia E Niro 4+ but no home charger. I use the Kia UVO app to pre heat when necessary and because my car has a heat pump this has minimal effect on the range - result😎

@henrywakelin5162 2 года назад

Hi Andrew, am new to EV's and have found your youtube vids very informative. Have an Ioniq 5 on order, delivery not due till mid April. I was hoping for any suggestion you would have for the payment cards etc that I should have available. Notice on your trip to Scotland you had a collection of cards. Hoping the majority of charging will be at home. But need to be ready for long journeys. Any advise would be appreciated.

@bertvdl1178 2 года назад

Pro tip!

@paulkelly967 2 года назад

It’s great to see the pre-heating working properly on the Ionic 5 as it gives us owners of the Kia EV6, which has effectively the same car software and app, hope that Kia will make it work soon. I think I am far from alone in finding that nothing will induce the EV6 to pre-heat the windscreen and interior - only the rear window and mirrors. To help us track the level of success of Kia’s future fixes it would be helpful to know whether your car needs to have the car charging for the windscreen pre-heating to work, or is it adequate to have a charging cable attached with power available, or can it work just from the internal battery with no cable attached.

@MrEV 2 года назад

To be honest, IONIQ 5 is extremely glitchy with the timed pre-heating. I only have to look at it strangely or sneeze when I plug it in for it to not work! In answer to your question, it will do timed climate control as long as I don’t unlock the car for some reason after plugging in. I’ve also found it to fail on the charging timer if it starts and then I turn on the timer using the app. I’m trying to collate all this info to make a video about it but I’m hoping Hyundai fix all this before I get around to it!

@mortenkappers7743 2 года назад

Same problem for my EV6.. Remote heating start via KIA app not working… it been a long frozen month.. my old Skoda had diesel heater build in, I miss it in cold Danish mornings.

@1967dragonaxe 2 года назад

Looking forward to getting my I5 (mind you that might be in the summer at this rate 🤣)

@peterfrost9203 2 года назад

Do you have a lot of American subscribers that force you to say “sked”ule rather than “shed”ule"? Keep up the good videos.

@MrEV 2 года назад

It's just the way I've always said it. I'm going to be self-conscious now!

@evmurph5877 2 года назад

Nice useful video! Quick question, does this only work if the car is plugged in and charging? Or can it just be plugged in and for example have finished a scheduled charge?

@evmurph5877 2 года назад

Should’ve read the comments first! Question answered.

@ukcarver 2 года назад

I find I can do this with my I-Pace. What I find I’m struggling with is preconditioning especially as I’m on the Ohme charger which is set for Octopus charging . Could do with a simple way to bypass my Octopus settings and set it to come on for preconditioning as and when. As always great video from you.

@tonybkent 2 года назад

Version 1.22.0 of the Ohme app has just been released that allows for preheat in the charge schedule. 👍

@ukcarver 2 года назад

@@tonybkent yes I’ve just noticed I will have to try it thanks

@mikejacques 2 года назад

I also have the Ioniq 5 (Project 45) and you can also defrost and pre-heat the car without it being plugged in, but it will eat into 1-2% of the battery charge if not plugged into the home charger....

@martiangod 7 месяцев назад

Can you not just do it from an app or is it by schedule only ?

@derekharrison1110 2 года назад

Hi Andrew, thanks for your videos, very helpful. De-icing the car with pre heating is great but is it essential for the car to have a heat pump to do this? Thanks

@MrEV 2 года назад

No, it’ll work with or without a heat pump. It’ll just use a bit more energy.

@MovieViking 2 года назад

@@MrEV Potentially quite a bit though nothing to be alarmed by. My Ioniq easily draws 4 kW with the heat pump off, around 1 kW with the heat pump on and the resistive heaters off. If below 0 deg.C outside it starts heating the car approx. 20 minutes before set departure time.

@davidpearn5925 2 года назад

Hi Andrew, can you tell me what the servicing schedule is ie frequency and costs. Thanks Dave.

@honesty_-no9he 2 года назад

4K nice.

@MrEV 2 года назад

I’m running out of disk space quickly though!

@honesty_-no9he 2 года назад

@@MrEV Stop fussing buy a bigger drive.

@rogerford30 2 года назад

👍👍

@cawfeedawg 2 года назад

That beeping every time you touch the screen would drive me batty. 😒. But it’s a great video Andrew, thanks!

@helent9696 2 года назад

I'm patiently (not) waiting for my E Niro to arrive. It is a 2LR so no app. My question is, if you have your Zappi charger set to charge the car during the octopus go 4 hours in the night but you set the pre heat for a 8.30am schedule, and the car is plugged in will the pre heat run? Or does it actually have to be charging?

@howieb2001 2 года назад

Nice video although a bitter-sweet experience for me. The heating on my Ioniq 5 stopped working before Christmas and the car has now been in the garage for a week. It will be out of action for an indeterminate period as Hyundai UK try to source a part. Thanks for listening.

@MrEV 2 года назад

That's disappointing. I've not heard of any similar reports so you must be very unlucky. Do you know what part needs replacing?

@howieb2001 2 года назад

@@MrEV Thanks for responding. I only know it's a part required for the heating system and there isn't one in the UK. Yes I was just the unlucky one - as well as the heating failing there were other random occurrences like the regeneration switching off for a few minutes and the boot closing for no apparent reason. In my youth (a long time ago) we would have called it a Friday car.

@edenviews 2 года назад

Apart from that those with a garage could help if it wasn't full of junk but has space for the car. After the frozen rain of the other week, my Zoe window heaters melted it off in no time, the car having been out of the garage that day. The battery heating is a feature to be used and instructions say while charging. i wonder if there's a shortcut to that? The battery was flagged up to be cold for my whole journey one time. No discernible power constraint on the winding country roads to the Solway coast?

@eto2352 2 года назад

Need an update video review with your wife! :) I thought you would be uploading videos twice a week to pay for that Ioniq! LOL

@MrEV 2 года назад

Yes, we’ll do a video together after we’ve had it six months.

@m0taz99 2 года назад

Could you help me understand if it's better to use my Waitrose card or Morrison to scrape off the ice.

@MrEV 2 года назад

Morrisons for the Leaf, Waitrose for the IONIQ 5.

@richardh6756 2 года назад

On your Nissan leaf Have you put covers over the suspension top to stop them rusting.

@MrEV 2 года назад

I haven't, no - is that a common issue with Leafs then?

@no-oneman.4140 2 года назад

Hi Andrew, sorry to be dumb, does it have to be plugged in to achieve this ? Won't it always start charging as soon as you plug in ? By the way how does the Ioniq 5 compare with that Tesla M3 that you hired a while ago. The M3 seems to be a lot more value for money.

@MrEV 2 года назад

No, with the app you don't have to have it plugged-in. The Tesla is better in some respects (panoramic roof, sat nav, Superchargers) but overall I prefer the way the IONIQ 5 looks and V2L, which is amazingly good.

@arthurseval 2 года назад

Hi Andrew, i guess it works the same with left hand drive cars :p does it heat the battery as well ?

@MrEV 2 года назад

No, it doesn’t heat the battery as far as I’m aware.

@robertsinclair1007 2 года назад

On the Ioniq 5 have you come across a pre-heat problem when the car is plugged in and fully charged and then preheat is actioned. I currently have this problem and it does appear others experience this according to the Hyundai forum, but it is not a universal Ionic 5 problem.

@rustyjoints4857 2 года назад

Definitely one of the best things about EVs. Just out of interest what’s the minimum battery % needed on the ioniq 5 to use the function if unplugged? It’s 40% on the ZOE!

@therealjetlag 2 года назад

Yikes. It’s 1% on the Fiat 500.

@richieyyz 10 месяцев назад

So this morning I started the climate control from the app about 5 minutes before I was going to leave. I went to get in my car and the climate control was still running and I was not able to disconnect the cable I guess because the temp did not reach what I had programmed it for. Is there a way to cancel or over ride this? I had to cut the power of the charger by turning off my breaker in order for the charging/temperature to quit.

@ianjohnson477 7 месяцев назад

Do you have your plug the EV in after you have set up the timer to enable the ‘preheat’ system❓ Thanks

@MrEV 7 месяцев назад

Most EVs won't preheat unless plugged-in, so yes, plug in after you've set the timer.

@Gdank72 2 года назад

My 2016 Jaguar F-Pace had this feature ... it's not a new thing that only EV's can do. However a lot more eco friendly ;-)

@_TrueDesire_ 2 года назад

Volvo could preheat some years back on their ICE too it’s not an EV only feature. even third party vendors offer installation for around €350 and boom now you can preheat any car.

@patrickwalsh467 2 года назад

Flaviana should do these. With the dog.

@garden-Railway Год назад

Does the Ioniq preheat via app work if plugged in or not and if plugged in does it use mains power or the EV battery

@MrEV Год назад

Great question. Yes, it works when initiated from the app whether it’s plugged-in or not. (Although scheduled preheat doesn’t). I don’t actually remember whether it uses mains when plugged-in but I’m fairly positive it does.

@SirHackaL0t. 2 года назад

Do you not just go into your app a few minutes before you want to leave and turn on the heating? Seems much easier, especially as I don’t always know what time i want to leave and don’t use the car every day. :)

@MrEV 2 года назад

Yes, that's what I do most of the time actually - especially as I'm rarely plugged-in!

@jamesrobinson1141 2 года назад

@@MrEV I also just use the instant climate control in the app. Smart fortwo EQ

@NazzyAli 2 года назад

Wish kia had the heated seat on preheating mode too

@nigel4321 Год назад

last night pre heated my brand new kia nero, went to the car, refused to start! 235 miles on battery but red light on the 12 volt battery!!! did the pre heat flatten the 12 volt?

@judebrown4103 2 года назад

Andrew is it absolutely necessary to plug in the car for this to work? We will be unlikely to have home charging but it would be good to know we could preheat the car on a cold morning.

@roderickmain9697 2 года назад

Its not necessary to have it plugged in (at least not in my Tesla) but, of course, by having it plugged in you dont lose any battery charge.

@MrEV 2 года назад

I only plug the car in every couple of weeks so I generally just use the app (without it being plugged-in).

@ma40 2 года назад

It will just preheat via the battery. Usually only takes a few miles off the range for cabin heat, and a bit more if preheating the high voltage battery (VW ID.4 in my case)

@Danne89 2 года назад

I can’t charge at home and use preheat from app every day. It’s great! It gets toasty super quick. :)

@judebrown4103 2 года назад

@@MrEV ah thanks, that's probably as often as I'll ever need to charge so that is brilliant news.

@broadsword6650 2 года назад

Wife's first comment: what about at the other end of the day when it's been sat on work carpark all day, not plugged in, and it's frosty? Will it defrost automatically on a timer, or do I have trigger it via the app, or will it not do it at all?

@MrEV 2 года назад

You’d have to do it using the app in that case. Timers only work when plugged-in.

@Mathingon 2 года назад

Start pumping out more videos, we need you to earn more YT revenue so Flaviana won't get you to sell the car! haha I'm sure there is lots of cool content you can make with the Ioniq 5

@MrEV 2 года назад

I'm trying!

@apollodeancampbell4272 Год назад

do you have to plug in the car after you set it?

@MrEV Год назад

It depends on the EV. I was surprised to see that a Fiat 500e I had recently would happily preheat on a timer without being plugged-in, but my IONIQ 5 and e-Niro needed to be plugged-in.

@MrPWalden 2 года назад

Does the ionic 5 have an Alexa skill? I do love asking Alexa to warm up my Leaf.

@MrEV 2 года назад

I don't believe so unfortunately. That would be great!

@paulkavanagh8240 2 года назад

I see you kept hold of your telephoto lens!

@AlanTov 2 года назад

Can you preheat the battery when plugged in ??

@MrEV 2 года назад

Yes - the climate control timer will only work when plugged-in. You can use the app to turn on climate control whether plugged-in or not.

@thomassommer7643 2 года назад

I use only the App for preheat. It's easier I think. The app software looks same to Kia.

@oykkh29 2 года назад

Does the charge cable be connected?.

@MrEV 2 года назад

For the scheduled climate timer, yes. For just activating climate control with the app, no.

@oykkh29 2 года назад

@@MrEV tnx still waiting for my Lucid blue AWD Advanced I5. One year delivery time. So hope in june! Have u seen the spec for the 77 kwh Battery. Its up on the danish Hyundai website now! Also Europe Will get the virtual mirrors

@cschekuru 2 года назад

Just a question.. there are some confusion on the whole battery heater or heat pump etc and the difference between them in US as we just started receiving the car more or like max 3 weeks.. And also on 12v battery (small battery to ignition ?) .. somehow in US, people are concluding that if we use heating the energy is drawn from 12v battery.. so we can assume that if we preheat/to pre cool with AC, whether plugged in or not, the energy is from main 77.4kw battery... ?

@jamesmgreen15 2 года назад

TBH on a crisp frost morn, I would be quicker with de-icer and a scraper. The car would be fine to get in by then too and I would be well up the road............I m able-bodied admittedly and happy walking dogs in all weathers...Each to their own though.....Saying that once in a every great while I guess touching a phone / car fob might be useful (might).................

@MrEV 2 года назад

I wouldn’t have time for that on a frantic school morning!

@jamesmgreen15 2 года назад

@@MrEV Fair enough. I have done my share of school mornings. Having had three kids all under 5 and two Labs (from puppies) at one point been through the wringer in that regard. I saw defrosted in 12 minutes and can say that in less than 5 I would have had the kids in the car, ice scrapped and be off even if that was with the Labs too (once kids out of prams). Even if the app always worked (assume they do now) I would still end up giving it a quick swipe to get runs off the side glass (whatever)...........Each to their own as say but I don't remember wrapping up particularly for the exercise and probably got told to turn to turn the heating up going along..............Worth the vid as probably end up using it if had it (maybe) but personally no biggie to say the v least, for me.......

@niceboy60 5 месяцев назад

How long does battery preheating takes 🤔

@MrEV 5 месяцев назад

I show it in the video? This took 12 minutes but it depends how cold it is.

@niceboy60 5 месяцев назад

@@MrEV I think we are talking about different Preheating 🤔 I m referring you start your car in the morning and you need to charge how long preheating takes before you can fast charge

@MrEV 5 месяцев назад

@@niceboy60 Ahh - you edited your comment to add 'battery' so that does make more sense now! To be honest, I don't know how long it takes as they added that feature after I'd sold it. If it's like Tesla, I think about 20 minutes before you reach a charger is ideal.

@tubelator Год назад

12minutes at 3kw/h? 500w usage?

@nbstreet0631 2 года назад

Where is Flavianna?

@MrEV 2 года назад

She'll be back soon!

@dudley7540 2 года назад

Or...You could suggest that Mrs. EV scrape the windscreen for you. Then you might see some real frost!

@shithead4767 2 года назад

Such a zadddy😫

@gordonbradford4054 2 года назад

This does not work on a KIA EV6!!! You can get HRW, mirrors and steering wheel to heat, but the HVAC will NOT heat the car!!!! The KIA crApp looks very similar to the Hyundai one you were showing.

@therealjetlag 2 года назад

Maybe he learned to say it that way in shool.