It’s great to see more rapid/ultra rapid chargers being installed, it’s just a shame most of them don’t even provide basic shelter. This would protect the users and the devices from the elements. Thanks for sharing what is a positive update.
Yes, shelters is something that is lacking. But I guess it's a question of funds. They're all running at a huge loss. So would you prefer more chargers in the open or less chargers under cover?
@@GoGreenAutos Yeah, having spoken to a few CPOs while attending Everything Electric last week, they all said having the funding to do all the things they want is a big challenge. As you say, focusing on increasing the number of available chargers has to be the priority.
Lots of provision there for EVs. But I hope they put some Armco barriers between them superchargers and the slip road. That would make me nervous parking next to that.
Notable that the gridserve bays are bike trailer friendly; may help in summer. Outside of June-august the M5 is a sleepy road on a weekend -but those summer Saturday-queues backing up out the motorway slip roads, especially for caravans. Now they just need to do something about the services between Frankley and Bristol, and Bristol to Exeter….
@@GoGreenAutos they’ve got a few months left. Which is good as otherwise you can predict the daily Mail headlines “families STRANDED in electric cars on M5”.
Really interesting to see how Tesla needs to up their marketing so more drivers know their pricing advantage. All those cars paying 79p when they could save 29p+ in the same car park…did you speak to any of them to ask why?
I did tell the chap charging his new Audi e-Tron. He then said he wants to buy another EV for his wife, and realised he should have got a Tesla, but his wife wouldn't have one because of Elon!
The fact tesla are only slowly opening up their network means that generally you have to ignore them. The new ones are different-the ones which opened in Bristol last month means that they now offer the lowest cost DC charging in the city. Hopefully they’ll make their Portsmouth site public too when that opens later in 2024
@@h1jjy to date, yes. As they can use both the “exclusive access” and “one year free” as selling points on the cars. But in areas where there’s more competition (Norway) they seem to be opening to all. by doing the same in the US they not only help fund the (major) capital costs of expanding the network -they are making their connector design the defacto standard-which could be advantageous. Here I’m not sure why some new ones are open to all (m4 reading westbound) where an equally recent one about 80 miles east ( 4 Leigh Delamere eastbound) isn’t. That isn’t at all problem to me (new bank of gridserve and Ionity chargers just before -you just need to decide whether to go for GS or aim for the smaller Ionity bank and add 5-10 minutes of drive time. Long term -I don’t know. What I do see is that their Bristol eastgate/M32 are the cheapest chargers in the city, for everyone. Meanwhile shell emailed me yesterday announcing their variable pricing so it’s 85 p/kWh for them in town, 89p/kWh on the A34. So they’ll be losing my custom: we need to put price pressure on (actually, that’s another possible tactic of Tesla. They’ve got a lot more money and by pricing low on public chargers where there are adjacent competition-they may hurt the cash flow and so expansion plans of competitors…)
Thanks for the heads up! I'm heading through Birmingham later this month and want to stop at Tesla Superchargers for cost reasons but didn’t know about this location.
Thanks, another useful video. Just a couple of observations. The V4's look to be positioned differently to traditional V2 & V3 so the longer cable should reach both sides without blocking another bay. Also it's mindblowing that Frankley and Hopwood Park are only 12 miles apart and they have more than 80 chargers between them. Good news if like me you use the M5 / M42 on a frequent basis.
@@GoGreenAutos I think it will depend on whether it's a new installation like Frankley or an upgrade like Tottenham. I've got a Model Y and have used a lot of Superchargers and whilst some have been at the back rather than the side it's always been in such a way that the short cable will only reach the rear nearside. Pre launch the Tesla US videos all seemed to show the V4 chargers in the middle at the back. Anyway we will see as V4s appear at more new sites.
I think that the two bays at the old Gridserve are shared between the rapid charger and the fast AC. I'm pretty sure that the charger cannot serve both CCS and Chademo simultaneously.
Problem is that the 14 or so private companies who control and install the chargers around the UK are reliant totally on shareholders, and as we all know shareholders are after high dividends and if there not forthcoming then the shareholders will drop companies like a stone and reinvest in companies that make money. So the problem we are facing is the less electric cars that are around on the open roads the less likely they will be busy at the charging points. It’s convincing Internal combustion Engine Car owners to switch to Electric cars. Not a problem if they’re company car drivers but the greater general public are more difficult as the high cost of new electric cars are inhibiting. The Government are pressurising the car manufacturers to sell this year more than 22% of their sales otherwise if they don’t the manufactures must pay a penalty of £15,000 per ICE car they sell. In my mind this year is a make or break year for the electric car market and the private charging companies.
EVs are on price parity with ICE vehicles. Some are expensive, but if you look at the best selling, namely the Model Y and Model 3, they are on the same price as a similar spec ICE vehicle. When it comes to used vehicles, in the UK, EVs are currently cheaper. The big issue here is there is so much FUD and funding to delay the uptake of EVs. There's daily fear mongering in the press and social media and this is having an effect. These lies that people believe will take many a decade or so before their mind is changed.
@@GoGreenAutos Many thanks for your replay. Let’s see what the car market state is by December this year. So many second hand electric cars from fleet company ownership coming into this second hand car market.
Just looked and the Tesla chargers are 74p between 4-8pm and 59p at any other times...74p is by far the most expensive Tesla chargers I have ever seen🤯
Yes, I think Tesla is just charging variable rates here which are more 'reasonable' by comparison to the expensive 79p but I would expect to see all rates come down soon with more competition.
@@GoGreenAutos I would think it reflects their supplier cost. Like Octopus Agile, for home electric tariff, where peak grid usage (16:00h-20:00h has peak rates and much lower charges at other times.
The configuration of the charges looks odd 2 tight together one could be blocked out completely it seems depending on location of car charging port.4.12/4.47. Can't remember what blue and green bays mean assume rate of charger.
So if I was to turn up and find only the Tesla 4's were available how do I go about using them for a one-off charge? I'm a bit techno thick so could you answer in as simple terms as possible please!
I made a video on this when the first V4 opened and I charged a Hyundai Ioniq. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RJgThJtCR2g.htmlsi=krKLFcqxZAsC3gJa Just pay contactless on the charger.
@@GoGreenAutosoh great, thanks Matt, I'll give it a watch. I expect I already did but have a shocking memory and this one obviously didn't get filed properly!😅
It’s worth downloading the Tesla app in advance as the screens aren’t always on. We used the Cornwall Lifton ones with our Peugeot. They were great, cheap and fast but the touch screens weren’t available, so needed the app to choose the stall and pay.
Did you hear the problem with petrol cars. Idiots put the wrong fuel in them and ruin the engine. I’ve tried to put the wrong electric in my car and never done it. I’ve also never had an electrical problem. And I also have never had a battery problem. When stop reading the right-wing Tory press and try an EV you will be amazed
I've tried to misfuel my Leccy Van on purpose. It doesn't care . I've given it 230volts. I've even given it that old fashioned DC. Doesn't even run lumpy. And I've tried to spill electric all over the forecourt. I can't . I just can't do it.
