EV or Gas, What Pollutes More?

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A lot of misinformation out there about pollution generated by Electric Vehicles, I spent over a year researching this and was shocked to find out what actually goes into producing the gas we burn in our cars every day.
Thanks to The Fully Charged team and Robert Llewellyn for the narration and for helping with the script.
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@h8GW Год назад

The tanker truck running over the fish was a great touch.

@slyaid2019 3 месяца назад

Electric cars emit more pollution than ice cars due to tire an brake dust particulates, I would measure a guess that it is worse for health as well. WSJ just had an article about this. And Canadians rioted last week over increasing fuel tax, which is hurting low income families, NO MORE TAX, WAKE UP PEOPLE, you're being sold a bill of goods that are damaged

@chrismayer3919 2 месяца назад

Keep on troutin’ 🐟🚛

@ThorfinnurPetur 3 года назад

Missing the part that refineries use a lot of cobalt.

@Neojhun 3 года назад

There is variants of Lithium Ion which use ZERO 0 Cobalt e.g. LiFePO4.

@jocodashcam295 3 года назад

@@Neojhun He's talking about the refineries. A lot of cobalt is used in desulfurization of diesel fuel.

@Neojhun 3 года назад

@@jocodashcam295 Yep I know, I'm a chemistry nerd who has worked Refineries installing automated and networked volumetric and weight systems. I was just explaining how the contrast between between Fossil Fuel consumption and Future BEV consumption of Cobalt will massive difference.

@mikaeloverby 3 года назад

Tesla fatcells don't use cobalt. And if everyone complains about cobalt, then I recommend them to throw away all your electronics. There is cobalt in everything and your phone which I reckon everyone use everyday. And specifically choose tesla as the only ev manufacturer for not using cobalt.

@steven8148 3 года назад

@@Neojhun not for tesla batteries

@Jemalacane0 2 года назад

Yet electric cars are still *not* the cleanest mode of transport. Bicycling, walking, and electric trains are. I thank you so much for including nuclear energy in clean energy! Well done!

@catguy4996 2 года назад

Well obviously. Cars in general are never going to be the cleanest. But between petrol and electric cars, electric is the winner

@Mark3nd Год назад

Yet they aren't alive. Soon, children will not appreciate the vehicles of electricity

@smoothmusicful 3 месяца назад

Nuclear energy is not as clean as you might think

@Slim333yBoi 28 дней назад

nuclear energy is the cleanest conventional energy

@notfamous649 2 месяца назад

This is the best video i have ever seen on youtube till now about this topic, also the animation is simple and easy to understand. Great video!

@IrishPhysicist70 3 года назад

Love the animation and have arrived to you from Fully Charged. I would like to share the animation with my linked in community. Keep up the good work.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Yes share it please

@mylifepopo1042 3 года назад

9:12 I love how in the end it just starts a fire in the car

@vanessaoelmann4211 3 года назад

I love it. People say EVs are more likely to catch fire. But actually, the probability of an EV catching fire is 20x less than that of an ICE car lol

@jaanjuurikas8112 3 года назад

@MagicStick absolutely not true. No 'high chances' documented about EVs and snow. Millions of people driving with EVs in the winter, including myself, in heavy-snow areas.

@jaanjuurikas8112 3 года назад

@MagicStick about 260km in the winter and 350km in the summer. Never needed more. I like warm interior, so heating is always up to 21C. The car warms up several times faster than any ICE, btw. Why don't you go and try one before rambling here?

@jaanjuurikas8112 3 года назад

@MagicStick How often do you drive 800kms straight?

@cornelbogdanmacrineanu7962 3 года назад

@@vanessaoelmann4211 because they now calculate them by the number of cars, not by the number of EV's.

@PonteDeAmbiente 2 года назад

Hola, según algunas fuentes, este video es de código abierto y puedo obtenerlo para traducirlo y subtitularlo para mi canal, por favor me pueden indicar si esto es cierto y de ser así, ¿Cuáles son los pasos para hacerlo? Gracias

@matteovalenza 6 месяцев назад

hi, i am an italian youtuber that talking about ev’s in my language. can i get the original video to translate it in my language and publish it on my channel? thanks

@GasTroll 5 месяцев назад

Contact me, you go through my youtube channel about page. We have some Italian versions already done that i linked below. Italian ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AhvdHqYpLBw.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bIzjvELWiuc.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GeSlOR6FCK0.html

@matteovalenza 3 месяца назад

@@GasTroll Email sent! thanks ^_^

@rickcollins2814 2 месяца назад

Thank you. It is a huge task to find all this information,, I've tried. Your efforts are appreciated.

@itsmehi1999 3 года назад

hey, I wanted to thank you for making this video, it has helped me a lot for my assignment. Also I wanted you to know that their might be a mistake... at 1:58 you say 20-30 m3 of diesel produces 300,000 kWh of electricity a day and that would be 13 billion kWh a month. And that's a BIG number.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Yes, this is noted in the video description.

@tiberyus28 2 года назад

Hello! How do I download the video, to create the same one but in Romanian?

@restarts1 6 месяцев назад

Hi. How can I contact you to download a video for voiceover. I would love to translate it in Latvian. We have huge misscknsepton about this issue here.

@GasTroll 6 месяцев назад

Through the channel page

@jasoncatt Год назад

Be great to see an update including the production of the batteries themselves.

@emmanuelgutierrez8616 Год назад

It's now came out, the battery of a model 3 takes 7 months of average U.s. driving to break even on the carbon footprint of the battery production when compared to an old stylecombustion car. California has reach 50% of it total energy use from renewables, so even the charging aspect will die off soon enough. Meanwhile gas still requires energy to refine from oil, and burns into the air from the exhaust. Just wait for the numbers on 4680 batteries!

@jasoncatt Год назад

@@emmanuelgutierrez8616 Link? That's a lot quicker than I've been reading.

@emmanuelgutierrez8616 Год назад

@@jasoncatt "Using this model, Reuters found that, in the United States, a new 54-kilowatt-hour Tesla Model 3 must be driven 13,500 miles before it becomes cleaner than a Toyota Corolla achieving an average 33 mpg over its lifetime. However, if the same Tesla were driven in Norway, it emissions "break-even point" would come at just 8,400 miles, according to the analysis."

@jasoncatt Год назад

@@emmanuelgutierrez8616 Do you have a link to the Reuters article?

@thomasswainson2047 Год назад

Most battery pollution is due to the diesel chuggers mining the minerals.

@markschraider 3 года назад

What percentage of the oil pumped out of the ground is actually refined and turned into fuels for vehicles vs other uses ? and what are the energy / environmental impacts of mining cobalt ? It's a pretty one dimensional video.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

One dimensional only if you believe the lies that have been spreading. All oil is refined. Cobalt is a nonissue, many times more cobalt is used for oil refining and catalytic converters than is used in batteries. Please realize there is a lot of oil company propaganda out there that has confused this issue.

@markschraider 3 года назад

@@GasTroll Nice selective answering of both of those, admittedly rhetorical, questions. I think there are similar levels of propaganda and hype around electric vehicles - and no amount of me driving around in a plug in electric vehicle will offset the carbon footprint of the “developing” countries. I don’t disagree that gasoline is not the best or most efficient source of energy now or for the future, but I also don’t subscribe to the view that plug in electric vehicles are answer. The current generation is the first iteration and will, in time, be replaced by something better - hydrogen, or synthetic fuels. Remember VHS and Betamax ? That’s where we’re at right now.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

@@markschraider In those developing countries the pollution per capita is many times less of what it is in the west, and you have the audacity to say your actions will not help while you point fingers at the less fortunate. absolutely unconscionable! You are a great example of why we are in the situation we are in.

@markschraider 3 года назад

@@GasTroll 😀 Troll by name and by nature ! Best of luck with your crusade, not everyone will be as susceptible to brain washing as you were.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

@@markschraider Thank you, but I am referencing facts, I do spend a lot of time researching this, and believe it or not, it is worse than I expect. It seems you have bought into the oil company propaganda. I really hope you can wake up from this and look at the facts with fresh eyes, we will all benefit from this. the amount of natural resources we use in the west, especially the wealthy, is pure gluttony. The research I am doing on my next video will show how bad it really is. 😃

@itomlj17 2 года назад

would like to download for croatian voice over :) how to contact you or where to download?

@arolttx Год назад

excellent video, what is the editing software you use?, thanks

@Screwycummings Год назад

Yes, EV pollutes less than gas cars, but public transit pollutes even less! The priority should be making public transit better.

@Shocker8MTA 3 месяца назад

Public transport just waste people’s time Too expensive to travel anyway Is cheaper to own a car and schedule your time as pleased Not wasting time waiting in a station for a bus or worse missing it and not arriving to destination

@Screwycummings 3 месяца назад

@@Shocker8MTA In many cities, like Tokyo or Berlin, traveling by public transit is actually cheaper and faster than by car. Trains and buses come every 5 minutes. Asian and European public transit is superior because those countries invest in public transit. Owning a car may seem cheap in the US, but there are negative externalities that you are indirectly paying for. For example, you have to waste your precious time in traffic congestion. Also, spending your tax money on building more roads to relieve traffic congestion is much less cost-effective than spending it on public transit.

@Rudenbehr Месяц назад

@@ScrewycummingsI’m not taking a train next to a crazy homeless person. Someone got stabbed in Portland

@Screwycummings Месяц назад

@@Rudenbehr You can be hit by a drunk driver or be shot by s road raged driver when you drive. I agree that public transit needs to improve its security, but no modes of transportation are absolutely safe. If mental health and homelessness are the problems, they require different solutions. The debate is about pollution and public transit pollutes the least.

@inercia_3 29 дней назад

Public transportation only works in condensed cities. Any rural area you NEED a car

@davidperry4013 2 года назад

The drive to the grocery store during COVID lockdown is a small sample if everyone’s daily drivers are either all electric or hydrogen fuel cell. There is nothing more satisfying on a drive than rolling down those windows on the highway on a 70 degree day and actually smelling grass.

@oisiaa 2 месяца назад

Some of my very best memories are during the COVID lockdowns.

@nickchillphoto 2 года назад

This is great. Do you know of a good source for a photo infographic covering this information?

@irlapes 2 года назад

Do you have this video in 9:16 versión for tiktok?

@othmane767 3 года назад

Hello . Thank you for the great work, I’ve seen it on fully charged where I learn that I should ask permission to use if I want it to post! which is what I’m asking actually. Im a car RU-vidr who just started here in Morocco and I assure you that Morocco is one of the countries who signed for a the change, encouraging renewable energy for better future. I hope to get answer thanks

@GasTroll 3 года назад

You can contact me through my channels about page

@bmagnus2729 5 месяцев назад

Take public transport whenever you can guys. That is the most efficient way. Tax both ice and bev and fund public transport.

@Beard1974 2 месяца назад

Brilliant. Should be shown in schools around the world, and a summary should be stuck to every fuel pump, just like health warnings on tobacco.

@MatthewEng2593 2 года назад

What about embedded emissions? I've seen a lot about this and would like to see your take on it.

@sonalfernando2342 6 месяцев назад

At least one RU-vidr talking Truth ❤

@calmeilles 3 года назад

This needs to be brought to more people's attention. Share the heck out of it every place you can.

@sevencostanza3931 3 года назад

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@versailles9412 3 года назад

If you believe this, you need to do more research and stop letting people lie to you. He cherry picked the supply chain and only showed you certain links of the chain and also did not explain how cars are build and how these batteries are recycled. He also compared the entire oil industry to an electric car. The world mostly uses Oil not renewable energy by aa huge margin.

@MrRentageek 3 года назад

@@versailles9412 The US is approaching 50% renewable energy for power plants. That is an incredible change in the past decade.

@bitten4life78 2 года назад

This video is highly inaccurate and no I'm not a hater I own a Tesla it's just I believe in truth and facts and it ain't in this video

@hungryhunter7158 2 года назад

@Mark A that’s because nuclear power is by far the most efficient. However it needs to become no-risk for people to trust it not to fail and blow up

@SergioRodriguez-rg2dj 2 года назад

Excellent video!!!!!. What software do you use to create the video?

@verelevelanthe200 3 года назад

How to download the video.i want to translate this vedio in my language.please share the link.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Contact me through my channel "about" page, this is where ll youtube contact links are.

@ZesPak 3 года назад

How often I've said: So you think that building an island in the middle of the ocean, pumping up oil, shipping it to land, refining it, putting it in a truck and getting that into a small pump you can drive to is better? Now I can just point to this video, thank you!

@GasTroll 3 года назад

That is exactly why it was made. Hope to have more coming in the future to address the other lame excuses to not go electric like "what about the windmill blades".

@benurm2390 3 года назад

But for the amount of fuel you get from that, if you take a lot of it to land at once, doesn't it allow to power many more gas cars than the energy used?

@GasTroll 3 года назад

@@benurm2390 No, especially when you consider the energy used to Refine and transport the oil and gas. and when you consider one is constantly polluting and one is not there is no denying that EV is many times cleaner. here is an article that helps explain, cleantechnica.com/2021/03/02/electric-car-batteries-need-far-less-raw-materials-than-fossil-fuel-cars-new-study/

@sz7568 2 года назад

@@GasTroll I agree with most of the things you said, don't get me wrong. but from the underground till the refining, whether you use petrol or not, you have to do it all the time! for several reasons & we use some of those "reasons" to make cars (regardless of fuel) EVs are better in long term; no doubt. but first of all, we should put the efficiency first; and secondly, we should change the way of our living. without trying to use less energy, we will waste it in some form and in long term, that does not really matter what form it is. auto industry is not even #1 among pollution sources!

@sz7568 2 года назад

@@GasTroll and one more thing... if you want to dig that deep, there are some diggings for the EV part as well! don't be a bigot, please! dig both sides! (again... no offense! as I said, I'm with you on many things that you said)

@afterburner94 3 года назад

Mark, I came directly from the Fully Charged version. Wanted to just tell you how brilliant it is. Absolutely fantastic script, facts and figures and animation. How can we help you get subtitles in other languages?

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Contact me though my channel page

@StomperQ88 4 месяца назад

How do I get it translated to danish?

@hsmsails 3 года назад

Great work Mark and Robert. Suggestion to improvements: Add info on Cobalt mining (so many think all cobalt comes from Congo and is done by small children, and have no idea how much is mined for tooth fillings, tire studs, laptop/smartphone batteries, used in refining oil, etc) and the russian and saudi oil mining too.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Will do!

@emilioagudelo5787 Год назад

No cobalt in the new battery LMFP

@km6xu 11 месяцев назад

The use of cobalt in EV batteries is going away, but sadly, it's use in the desulfurization of transportation fuels continues with no end in sight. The use of cobalt is no longer much of anti-EV talking point.

@mako2741 6 месяцев назад

i can finally hope the gas and diesel cars come to an end in 2030 or later but car manufactuers can move on to an refreshing electric that is more enviroment friendly and brings an shiny brighter future

@karlvhilst 4 месяца назад

Indeed and Congratulations for the film makers! The only critique I would like to add is about “renewable” energy! Nowadays there is a lot of criticism about environmental impact of f.I. windmills and solar panels as not being recyclable etc. wish is used in anti EV criticism!

@TheLeapinleopard 3 года назад

you have to factor in the energy it takes to clean-up abandoned pump jack wells... So many have been left uncapped because the regulations and bonding requirements, the money that companies pay ahead of time as insurance, for those wells are so minimal that it’s nearly impossible to hold drillers responsible or to pay for cleanup. Some companies simply walk away from wells, meaning they are still liable; when firms go out of business, they are not.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Something I did not think about.I have heard about this though. Thanks

@daytonbill1 2 года назад

@@GasTroll ...and for gas wells that fuel our electricity production.

@jtlanden9771 2 года назад

You should BOYCOTT all fossil-fuel starting right now. And that includes everything delivered by truckers to the store.

@daytonbill1 2 года назад

@@jtlanden9771 that includes plastics, so no autos of any kind, and no phones or computers...

@jtlanden9771 2 года назад

@@daytonbill1 If these knuckleheads knew how much diesel fuel a container ship from China uses to get their Chinese garbage goods here. They would all run to their safe spaces with their emotional support animals.

@jdaggett007 Год назад

I love the random oil trucks clapping the people throughout the video it was funny

@maybepumpkins 5 месяцев назад

"The best car is no car. We need better infrastructure to move a majority of people out of their car dependency." - CT

@ChrisJenkins60 3 года назад

Fabulous video & very informative! I shall enjoy sharing this everywhere, especially when I encounter the inevitable nay-sayers.

@Stef.Cata051 3 года назад

To be honest oil is used for more than fuel

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Yes it is. dit the vast majority of it is fuel.

@tmeyer2000 2 года назад

Can you give your source for the percent of energy from renewable energy sources? The EIA says 20% for the US for 2020

@svkmahesh Год назад

@GasTroll Why not change the number in the video if de Tesla model 3 2021 is more efficient than the one from 2019?

@rickagfoster 5 месяцев назад

In Ontario where I live, 8% of our grid emits GHG of any kind. Thank you hydro and nuclear!

@WJCTechyman 2 месяца назад

Well, it's our CANDU attitude that does that. I live about an hour's drive from one of the largest nuclear generating stations on the planet: Bruce Nuclear Generating Station.

@t83rg 3 года назад

This is just brilliant video, thanks for making it!

@hkad6252 Год назад

I am missing an important key fact that it turns out is quite hard to find online: How many kWh does it take to produce one liter or gallon of gasoline? Well to pump. Any sources? The only number I found was around 1,58 kWh per liter. Could that be correct?

@HCkev Год назад

The figure I've seen is 6kWh per gallon, so that's about the number you given

@fredo8480 Месяц назад

3:34 I tried searching for some of the countries that have this regulation but i didn't find any info, i've been trying to make a presentation on this topic, however I don't know if a can trust it or not

@nicklasilli8796 3 года назад

Great Video! Just one question... how much Oil/Energy does it take to ship lithium to the factories where the batteries are produced? Is that even a big factor?

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Well, considering that cars don't run on Lithium I don't see how it could be anything close to as bad as endlessly feeding our fuel tanks. Tesla is working on mining in the same location as some factories so in some cases there is no shipping.

@alanmay7929 3 года назад

@@GasTroll uhm nonsense, lithium has to be mined, processed, transported, shiped to China where its mostly transformed. We still have very few EV on roads compared to ICE but where is the lithium to make 80 million cars a year?! Dont forget that lithium is mined in Australia, Argentina, Chile..... and they aren't always made in the best conditions.

@alanmay7929 3 года назад

@@GasTroll that tesla mining process is still under development and still won't solve the problem of lithium availability/production.

@riche.6660 3 года назад

@@alanmay7929 Don't worry Alan, in the future only the very rich will be able to own their own vehicles or travel outside their own towns.

@alanmay7929 3 года назад

@@riche.6660 thats what she said....

@teslatrekker9496 3 года назад

I love this video, your argument is so well made!

@danyeo 2 года назад

But it’s not an argument, it’s just plain facts.

@evilnick2885 4 часа назад

im confused, if we arent pumping the oil out of the ground to power the plants and pumps to pump then where are you getting the oil to power your electric car?

@Sebastian-ph3dx Год назад

Very Nice, well done! Is it in german (subtext) available?

@James-xr7pb 3 года назад

You forgot about the Cobalt. Like the Cobalt catalysts used to filter petroleum to create low sulphur fuel. Or the few percent of Cobalt used in billions of tonnes of steel alloys, and the amount of batteries in portable devices beside EVs.

@Neojhun 3 года назад

LiFePO4 as the chemical formula dictates has ZERO Cobalt. It technically has no exotic metal at all. Except for Phosphate which natural ore form is controversial to mine, but can be chemical process produced.

@jtlanden9771 2 года назад

Cobalt is currently used in the cathode of a lithium ion battery because it allows a high rate of lithium

@karlgunterwunsch1950 2 года назад

@@jtlanden9771 It allows a high lithium rate while providing a safety margin. Without that safety margin we could go for metallic lithium cathodes and have much higher charge capacity (IIRC 9 times higher than current cells) - but probably nobody would risk that cell type.

@GerardoMartinez-er7ni Год назад

Cobalt is used specifically in LCO, NMC and NCA type Li-batteries due tu is high specific energy. However, the technology roadmaps for Li-batteries move towards Low and zero cobalt alternatives like NMC 811, LFP, LiNa, LiAl, LTO etc. as well as solid state batteries.

@ronlong9685 Год назад

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@MsTiggytoo 7 месяцев назад

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!!!!

@ArndSteinmetz Год назад

Thanks for this video. I'd like to see a German version to share. Is there one already? If not, how can I help to produce one?

@backmanperez Год назад

Anyone know where I can find this video in Spanish?

@GasTroll Год назад

Spanish ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lVWcAtAxDP0.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xsU5dRhD3Fo.html

@johnwikkerink1 3 года назад

this is great! thanks for making this!

@markusstevens9547 8 месяцев назад

CLEAN POWER??---you understand this EUROPEAN SOURCES OF POWER image above is purposely vague. Nuclear power and hydro are considered to be CLEAN power. And, a country official from which country may even include NATURAL GAS as clean power. Misleading and not totally unexpected coming from the pro-renewable energy extremists pushing their intermittent, unreliable, non-dispatchable and weather dependent industrial wind and solar power plants.

@acmefixer1 3 года назад

Great video for making the viewer aware that there is a major downside to ICE vehicles. Thanks for allowing everyone to spread it all over. What we really need to do is get rid of coal fired power plants so there will be much less pollution from EVs and anything that uses electricity.

@gostandinostheodossiou6727 2 года назад

Crazy it takes the same c02 to produce electric car batteries as running average electric car for 15 years and the batteries don't last and need recycling electric cars also cause cancer miscarriage autism from EMF of the motors kill off bees as this effects Thier navigation

@markusstevens9547 8 месяцев назад

@WJCTechyman 2 месяца назад

Yeah, but he left out the other hazards related to EVs like the stock piling of black mass. I think that if there was a way to utilize an older battery technology, the better off we can be. Specifically I am talking about lead-acid. These batteries, unlike Lithium-based batteries, are actually recyclable. You have your plastic casing, the lead electrodes and sulphuric acid. That's it. Besides, EVs have these as well.

@acmefixer1 2 месяца назад

@@WJCTechyman There is no "stockpiling of black mass." It is recycled and the lithium and rare metals in it are recycled. Lead-acid batteries are too heavy for the amount of energy they store. And they can't be charged rapidly.

@jbanken3 11 месяцев назад

Thank you very much for all your research! I am including your video in the newsletter I write for PluginNCW in Washington State.

@Tiffanyiv 6 месяцев назад

This is awesome, thank you so much for making this informative video and keeping it entertaining 👏

@AIDRIVR 3 года назад

Seriously top notch stuff here. Amazingly put together and edited, thank you so much for making this!

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Thanks, love your stuff as well!

@AIDRIVR 3 года назад

@@GasTroll Thanks! Any plans on releasing your app on Android? It looks awesome!

@cesarpegado69 3 года назад

@@AIDRIVR I love your content so I’ll give you buddy advice, get an iPhone 😁🤣

@AIDRIVR 3 года назад

@@cesarpegado69 I'LL NEVER JOIN THE DARK SIDE, NEVER!!

@jbbuzzable Год назад

Simple and comprehensive at the same time. Thank you!

@Muzeishen 3 года назад

So glad I found this again

@TommyboyGTP 2 года назад

Another problem is cost. Many people can't afford an EV. Many people buy older used cars for much less and drive those. Until you can get a used EV for near the cost of a used gas car, you won't see widespread adoption of EV's if the masses can't afford them, or to fix or maintain them.

@wonderwalls3565 Месяц назад

SO the fuel in the power plants that generates electricity magically appears. it does not get drilled and transported to the power plant?

@Luke_Starkenburg 3 года назад

Great short documentary.

@sleekitwan 3 года назад

The quality of this information video is extraordinary. Really well done, and Robert’s cleaned up his speech a bit or you’ve beautifully produced it, because I was not sure it was him at first, very professional. I first saw it on Lars Stranridder’s channel, and I previously considered myself more well informed than the average Volvo diesel 5-pot owner. Don’t worry, it’s broken-down, with three of its five radiators leaking. And the automatic transmission failing. Question: I cannot find a place on the ‘community’ to ask, so can I post this video and if so, how, other than put a link up? I didn’t know if apart from gaining your permission, I would then screen-record it, or as someone with a youtube channel, do i just insert a link and it magically appears?! I have put up plenty of videos includingone about driving to Scotland and back in a Leaf - a challenge at that time. Again, this is great, schools ought to have access to it, would help ease students/pupils back in gently. The fossil-profiteers really held a grip, it’s slipping, we just need to stomp harder on their fingers...!

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Go to my channel page to contact me.

@elixier33 9 месяцев назад

yet he missed out how many children die every year minng lithuim. He also tralked absolute twoddle, ev batteries end up in landfill. What bs

@EWAYOSKI 3 года назад

Hi ! Thanks for the video, is that possible to get the video to translate it in French for my youtube channel ? It's so well made, we need to share it everywhere ! If not, thank's a lot for this, i'm so happy with my kona 64kwh.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Contact me through my youtube Channel About page.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Here is a french version someone else did,

@dan.m.e6259 3 года назад

I’d like to share your video on Facebook but I can’t see your contact details on the ‘channels’ or ‘about’ tabs on RU-vid for permission. Thanks

@GasTroll 3 года назад

You cant? It is there, go to the "about" and there should be a button to press to get my email. I have been swamped with requests so it does work.

@StevepaddydrivingschoolCoUk 3 года назад

Great video! Straightforward and clear explanation of the subject. Thanks for making.

@prjmax 3 года назад

This is great! let's share it!

@SinbadCarey 3 года назад

I would liked to have seen the production costs for the gas used in gas fired power stations that produce over 40% of the electricity in the UK, used to charge my EV. Is it the same as oil?

@GasTroll 3 года назад

I would too, if you have access to data on this I would like to see it. i am restricted by the data avalible.

@SinbadCarey 3 года назад

@@GasTroll Well you did an incredible job with the data you have! When considering an EV, I explored the Co2 output for the UK energy mix, but didn't consider the energy used to produce the fuel or electricity, so this video is really useful, and an eye opener.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

@@SinbadCarey Thanks

@vbrogdon 2 года назад

Ship sulfur emissions are now being regulated. James Hansen states: " regulations have been imposed by the International Maritime Organization starting in 2015 and becoming stiffer in 2020." Excellent video!

@landl190372 3 года назад

Best demonstration I've seen on the subject. Excellent. Now if they can just bring the initial cost of vehicles down a little more...

@pHD77 2 года назад

In terms of total running costs, it's been said that if you buy an ICE car at 20,000 or buy an EV with an upfront cost of 30,000, you'll still end up paying the same in running costs, but you'll have a better ride with the EV. I've tried to provide a source, searching RU-vid to find that video again, where this claim was made, but was sadly unsuccessful. So right now, it's just my word for it. But I am sure there are plenty of EV owners outthere, who can support the claim.

@jimmyers8167 2 года назад

Yeah, just a little🤣

@buscseik 3 года назад

Just one slight note. Everyone think nowadays, the ice engines has 30% avg efficiency, but this is actually the maximum, the average is around 12 percent%, so 88% of the petrol and diesel being burned for nothing.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Where are you getting this number? I think 30% is peak, it degrades from there.

@buscseik 3 года назад

@@GasTroll Yep, 30% is the peak, when engine runs on 4500rpm, and the load torque are in perfect ratio (do not ask what is that ratio.), air is on the right temperature with the right humidity and so on. Cars usually are not in this perfect conditions, so the real world average efficiency around 10-12%. Just think on it. For example. Better cars can do 100km from 4L of diesel. If you accept this as a base line, and you say that has 30% efficiency average, than just take a look on the VW 1XL car, which can go 100km from 1L, so that car has 120% of efficiency? (thermodynamics' law says the theoretical maximum is 50%) Possibly the 1XL 's average is close to 35%, but if that is the 35% then a car which consume 4L will be around 9%

@buscseik 3 года назад

The 30% efficient ICE is just a myth on the internet. You will see everywhere on the internet, but you won't find any proper test. Other myth on the internet is the 99% efficient battery. This also only happen in lab condition. It is closer to 80% in real life. (Just think on it, where the heat come from when a battery is overheating? When a battery got 20 Celsius warmer, than actually 500KG of battery got warmer, that is a crazy amount of energy. Tesla's consumption will probably go down to 11kwh/100km just because of the new battery design which has significantly less internal resistance)(raw calculation: 6kwh just to heat up the battery once with 20 degrees Celsius)

@GasTroll 3 года назад

@@buscseik 10-12% sounds low to me. Do you have sources? I know an ICE starts everyday cold, it is less efficient until it heats up. Also as the parts in the engine wear the efficiency drops.

@buscseik 3 года назад

@@GasTroll Sorry, I have no link to source , it is only common sense. I have link to to VW 1XL: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_1-litre_car Just think on it, if 4L is 30% than 1L is 120%?

@2000funrice 2 года назад

Just one question, is it possible to propel a 21,000TEUs Container ship by EV battery on 20 to 30 days passage now?

@lindam.1502 2 года назад

Hydrogen would be the better choice for a while, the battery would be too big unless there were solar panels on the deck

@russellkeeling4387 5 месяцев назад

How about Air Force One as an ev. Let's send biden up in the very first one.

@mmckeown503 5 месяцев назад

@@russellkeeling4387 ah, your true colors are bleeding through. Your expressed views indicate a notable absence of cognitive awareness regarding the topic at hand.

@russellkeeling4387 5 месяцев назад

@@mmckeown503 I'm sorry you got sucked into buying into the ev scam. Drink some more kool aid.

@russellkeeling4387 5 месяцев назад

@@mmckeown503 That's what I could also say about you. Have another drink of kool aid.

@Feanor393 2 года назад

Great video! Thanks and congratulations for the effort.

@ricardojesus3412 3 года назад

Well done. Very clear.

@Hurtone 2 года назад

I feel that you really missed the huge impact of flaring during extraction. This is done in much of Middle East, and remote locations in North America.

@rd264 2 года назад

24/7 uncontrolled flaring emissions pollution is routine US refinery operation also, which results in many tons/hour of air emissions of CO2 and probably other GHGs and toxic air pollutants.

@CTimmerman 2 года назад

@@rd264 Flaring also wastes more than enough gas to power Germany.

@juliogonzo2718 3 года назад

How good is the range in -35°C ambient temperature?

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Latest Tesla's are getting better at this, it is obviously improving and is currently not an issue. Live in a cold climate or are you just trying to point out negatives with the cleaner more sustainable option here?

@juliogonzo2718 3 года назад

@@GasTroll I live in a cold climate. It was -39°c pre windchill every morning for a week last winter. It's usually below -20° for 3-4 months and below 0 for 5-6 months. In the 7 years I've lived here I have seen -30° for pretty much a month straight more than once. -39 was ridiculous though. It was +30 today so let's not think about winter

@juliogonzo2718 3 года назад

@@GasTroll ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wMng0gQuXQM.html To be fair most machinery does not work good in the cold. Here is a video of me starting a diesel truck in -29° and the bad sounds it makes. I swear in the video so hope that doesn't offend you. Not shown in the video was the power steering hose failing due to oil thickness.

@MrRentageek 3 года назад

@@juliogonzo2718 Your reality probably reflects 0.1-0.5% of the worlds population, so it's a valid exception, even if 99.5% irrelevant to the world as a whole.

@juliogonzo2718 3 года назад

@@MrRentageek ok so we don't matter then. I guess it's ok to discriminate when it's not you

@LUCKYLUKECZ 4 месяца назад

Hello, it seems that it is possible to use this video of yours for free and translate it into your own language and publish it. Is it possible and does it work? And how do I do that? Thank you for the information, best regards LUCKYLUKECZ

@robri 2 года назад

I understand that company’s like Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, etc are only interested in making large Four-Wheel Drive electric vehicles. Does this mean we are back to where we started, because these large vehicles create more pollution to create the larger body, larger wheels, tyre’s etc larger electric motor, and larger battery.

@hvicenteioux 3 года назад

great job. just a small feedback. can you indicate how many liters of oil is pumped by each pump on 2:35? would make the comparison by liter of oil, that could be further calculated to a fraction of a liter of petrol down the line. At that point it could be calculated the actual "work" (kwh) that a liter of petrol can do in a ICE.

@cornelbogdanmacrineanu7962 3 года назад

he cannot because that value of electricity he calculated there as being a lot of EV's is not even 10% of the necessary for US where you have 270 million vehicles. It is a tactic of enforcing a point by omision.

@xchopp 3 года назад

@@cornelbogdanmacrineanu7962 But that figure was only for pumping out of the ground. What about pipeline pumping, shipping, refining, and the ultimate waste: burning the fuel in a machine that is only 30% efficient (vs EV motors that are up to 90% efficient)? You were saying something about omission?

@patrickmann6116 3 года назад

the EPA says that a gallon of gas is roughly 33.7kwh of energy

@d00mch1ld 3 года назад

Lol help us depose the government we have in Australia right now.

@crhu319 3 года назад

Destroy #Smoko. The world wants him in prison.

@victorsvoice7978 3 года назад

Australian government is environmental criminals. Scott Morrison said EVs " can't tow". He is not telling the truth. EVs can tow.

@colinelrick2070 3 года назад

How to I get permission to share this as I want to add to my web site and have it on the large screens at the EV show I am arranging

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Contact me through the about section on my channel.

@garretts3619 7 месяцев назад

Interesting video. Have any of you reading this used (or attempted to use) an electric vehicle at -25c (-13f) or colder? How was your range (% of normal range in miles or km’s)? Any difficulties charging?

@russellkeeling4387 6 месяцев назад

This winter in the San Luis Valley of southern Colorado I know of people that had to buy generators to haul around because their ev's will only get about 35 miles on a full charge. Wow, what a great deal.

@GasTroll 6 месяцев назад

You say EVs, what EVs? Maybe the old 2013 Nisson leafs but new EVs now loose very little range in cold, especially Teslas. If you are going to spread information make sure it is accurate in has context!

@GasTroll 6 месяцев назад

-25 is very cold, but newer EVs are hendling this much better and each generation is getting better still. here is an article on the topic. www.greencars.com/expert-insights/which-evs-lose-the-most-range-in-winter?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAy9msBhD0ARIsANbk0A8j0ck8eyWrl9qCYg4_GvARrHtjtZyUPdMVbhcbgSu5ZuKGdb1zJ0IaAss1EALw_wcB

@Joel-Lindstrom 6 месяцев назад

I live in the south of sweden, so far the coldest wether i have driven in is -20c and i had about an reduction of 25% of range in my id3, for my daily driving this reduction has not been a problem, i would even say its the best winter car i have ever owned.

@russellkeeling4387 6 месяцев назад

@@GasTroll Send this to the people in the north east that have broken robots sitting in charging stations that are useless.

@fritzhopper5145 2 года назад

Very intuitive video with creative animation and clearly logical calculations. Thank you for the hard work. 😊 I now understand why it takes over 200 dollars to maintain a gas car and only 40 plus for a electric car based on gas and electric price in my country.

@andyh8239 Год назад

1 gallon of gasoline = 33.7KWh of energy 50 gallon tank / barrel / drum = $5 - $150 ? How much does a 1,685KWh (1.685MWh) battery cost? Derp.

@fritzhopper5145 Год назад

@@andyh8239 Do you replace battery every maintenance?

@andyh8239 Год назад

@@fritzhopper5145 What does replacing a battery for maintenance have to do with a 1.685MW battery costing $1.685 million dollars. vs a 50 gallon tank costing a few bucks.

@fritzhopper5145 Год назад

@@andyh8239 I am only talking about regular maintenance cost here. Are we still talking about the same thing?

@andyh8239 Год назад

@@fritzhopper5145 I know if I park my Volt outside when it is -20 it costs $0.13 / hr to maintain the battery. The tank of gas stays the same though. If you own a Tesla and it gets salvaged for any reason (e.g. hail damage) you get a lifetime ban from the supercharger network. Will be interesting to see how dangerous negelected / rusty EV's become here in 10+ years for service techs, or even Fire/rescue / salt spray / accidents / dry rot high votsge cables.

@darthos9804 3 года назад

Excellent watch! Thanks for doing such thorough research and presenting it in such a digestible format.

@Aundrich 2 года назад

What about the means transportation for the items for lithium and the mining equipment used for extracting the lithium?

@rps1689 2 года назад

There will always be the need for transportation. Good news is, not only is the technology improving at a fast rate, less and less cobalt is being used for batteries; sodium and redox batteries don't use any plus it is highly likely in less than a decade, sodium will overtake lithium. The amount of petroleum needed to provide fuel for mining and how much CO2 it will dump into the atmosphere is minuscule compared to the amount private vehicles use. Fossil Fuels raise serious risks for our grandchildren, but mining metal for batteries does not. One nice thing about EV battery cells is, they find a second use in stationary grid storage. When there are enough of them to create a market, they will be recycled to reclaim the valuable metals just like any other high volume appliance does nowadays.

@daineramosquitco5816 Год назад

@@rps1689 even aluminum batteries dont use cobalt

@jp2en 6 месяцев назад

what is the efficiency of delivering the electricity? where to get the oil to run the electric generator? hm...

@GasTroll 6 месяцев назад

Electricity is 90% but if it is from wind or solar it does not matter much, it is still clean. oil and gas can never be clean, it is a product that has mass/ wight and needs to be transported and processed. I don't think this is very complicated, i hope you understand. it should be very clear if you watch the video.

@jp2en 6 месяцев назад

@@GasTroll electricity has no mass but still a huge loss on transportation, because of the resistance of the wires

@youseflatif796 4 месяца назад

@@jp2enThere's a reason why we use thick cables. Only 10% of the electricity gets lost during transmission.

@EVPeasy Год назад

Hi Mark. What a great animation and explanation. I’m fed up with responding to the ‘dirty electric’ EV issue. Would I be able to share this on my own EV channel. Many thanks. Ed Ps I’ve subscribed so can’t wait for the next one.

@andyh8239 Год назад

lol... Why are people so easily manipulated... How many gwh + diesel + mining + smelting + infrastructure does it take to make a 100kw battery * millions of cars? derp.

@andyh8239 Год назад

I love how Co2 = Pollution... Right up there with water vapor.... This push to EV's is very idiotic... Makes so much more sense to oush for plug in hybridization.

@markusstevens9547 8 месяцев назад

Don't want to respond? How about to this? CLEAN POWER??---you understand this EUROPEAN SOURCES OF POWER image above is purposely vague. Nuclear power and hydro are considered to be CLEAN power. And, a country official from which country may even include NATURAL GAS as clean power. Misleading and not totally unexpected coming from the pro-renewable energy extremists pushing their intermittent, unreliable, non-dispatchable and weather dependent industrial wind and solar power plants.

@devinthreethousand 3 года назад

I love this video but I think you need to clarify that this only represents the generation of energy to power the vehicle. If you add manufacturing emissions of either, gas powered vehicles still lose, but it's important to note that each does have emissions that add to the total lifecycle emissions (I live in a large city that primarily mines nickel so I know first hand how bad it used to be with SO2 sirens, etc). Maybe that could be your next video :) The mining industry is accelerating their own transition to BEV mining equipment so the gas camp arguments are dwindling at such a rate they won't hold up much longer.

@lisboaluk 3 года назад

I think you should ve taken into consideration that the demmad for energy will increase with eletric cars and new wind and solar parks will be constructed, not mentioning, the material for recharge points. That wouldnt pollute more? Furthermore, the internal combustion cars are becaming more and more efficient.

@devinthreethousand 3 года назад

@@lisboaluk gas vehicles, no matter how efficient, start off polluting and only get worse. There's no argument here, you are wrong.

@lisboaluk 3 года назад

@@devinthreethousand a radical change will pollute more I think. I think using gas, flex, hibrid and eletric all together is more rational

@MrRentageek 3 года назад

@@lisboaluk Why would demand for power increase just because we don't use gasoline/diesel? Super large power plants represent the best in technology at maximizing efficient conversion of fuel to energy, and it's already cheaper to build/use wind and solar than coal or oil. There are thermodynamic limits on the efficiency of ICE engines, particularly since ICE engines are most efficient under consistent loads, not under the full power-near idle-full power profile of cars.

@MrRentageek 3 года назад

@@lisboaluk Some of the first automobiles ever built were electric, so it's not really all that radical.

@diegomatter69 2 года назад

@gas troll You wrote: 'One of my calculations was not correct 70,250,400 cars can be powered by the energy used to pump oil out of the ground in the US and offshore!!! not 19,500,000 in the video. ' You should update the video to reflect that fact to keep your credibility. That's a massive error. It's not enough to mention it in the video description. Otherwise brilliant video. Thanks, D.

@logicking3765 2 года назад

The arguement is never about not going green. We want to go green, but how and when? Plus affordability is also a issue. This is where the right and left disagree when the left aims for a much aggressive approach and the right prefers a change at a much slower pace.

@jonkeren 7 месяцев назад

Great video for every tesla hater that wants an argument to hate EVs.

@timorum 2 года назад

This is brilliant, Id love to see a summary of the Co2 output for the life cycle of a EV vs ICE - including manufacturing - which is apparently higher for an EV?

@nathanginos7895 Год назад

Engineering Explained has a video where he goes into the data that I find pretty useful. Here's the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6RhtiPefVzM.html&ab_channel=EngineeringExplained and in case you are suspicious of links in the comments Engineering Explained is the channel and the title of the video in the link is Are Electric Cars Worse For The Environment? Myth Busted

@GasTroll Год назад

Tesla released this in their quarterly earnings report, could not find it right now but did find their environmental report for 2021, but keep in mind EV production is still in its infancy and has much potential to become more efficient, this combined with the recycling of metals used in the batteries, a cleaner global electricity mix, the fact that many of these EVs will far outlast ICE vehicles, we will soon see the difference between ICE and EV will be much greater when it comes to CO2, but there are many other benefits as described in the video, like the impact to human health and well being. www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2021-tesla-impact-report.pdf Lifetime fuel consumption and use-phase GHG emissions 4 30,000 litres (~8,000 U.S. Gallons) of fuel burned per car 70 tons of CO2e released into the atmosphere Burned fossil fuel is extremely difficult to decarbonize as carbon capture is not economically viable today. 70 MWh of electricity charged per car 30 tons of CO2 released, assuming current global grid mix Production and lifetime use of EVs is possible to decarbonize using well-established technologies Battery pack is recycled at the end-of-life and used to build a brand-new battery pack, over and over again

@olly7248 Год назад

So much wrong here, conveniently forgetting the carbon used in production compared to petrol cars that gives no equivalence until 100,000 miles driven, so misleading 🤬

@timorum Год назад

@@olly7248 100,000miles? where did you hear that?

@Joel-Lindstrom Год назад

@@olly7248 From what i have been able to find an EV battery releses from 40-100 kg of CO2/Kwh, asuming a 60kwh battery that is 2.4-6 tons of CO2 comparing this to an gas car that consumes 8 liters/100km (3kg co2/liter included combustion and production) it will take 10000-25000km before the eletric car is cleaner(asuming a swedish grid to charge the car) on avrage in sweden people drive 15000km/year wich means this point will happen after 0.7-1.7 years asuming an avrage lifetime of 250000km for these vehicles the gas vehicle will have relesed 60 tons of co2 during its lifetime, this is 10-25 times more CO2 emissions than the eletric car

@iuscoandrei17 3 года назад

i will use some info from here to make my thesis. it's too awesome!

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Hope you share it with me

@matybe4904 6 месяцев назад

Great video! Did I miss it, or did you skip the conclusion...? Total emissions per driven km or something like that?

@GasTroll 5 месяцев назад

That is not in the video because every car, refinery, drilling field, there would be a different result. I would like to get this figure, but it is beyond my capabilities here.

@kendallthompson3586 3 года назад

GasTroll, I learned about this video while listening to you on "The Tech Guy" podcast today. Very well done. You have me looking at EVs more seriously and I'm certain my and my wife's next cars will be an EV. Still not sold on adding solar to my house simply because of the high cost to install on clay spanish tile roofs. Thanks so much for enlightening people. Do you plan to make the app available for Android users at some point?

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful! I hope to make an android version if the app becomes profitable in the future.

@jaybui7506 2 года назад

If you are living in the sunshine states then Solar will help, for instant, if you live in Seatle?? you are doomed.

@markusstevens9547 8 месяцев назад

@russellkeeling4387 6 месяцев назад

You my friend are an uneducated fool if you believe ev's are an answer to anything. Follow the money and you will learn all you need to know of this con.

@NEOmnius 3 года назад

Absolutely amazing video. But you should definitely put the correct number in there and publish it again. With this discrepancy, many people who need to be convinced will just use it as an example of fake information.

@GasTroll 3 года назад

Thanks, but 99% of the people don't read the about section of the video and don't know there is a discrepancy. The kind of person that goes looking for information is not someone who would be against EVs, anyone taking even a little time to look into it can see how obviouslybad burning oil is.

@podasarath0808 Год назад

That's a great video, and also an effective one....addressing the current day problems.... thanks

@Carl_in_AZ 2 года назад

🔌🔌I like that some new *apartment developers in Arizona* are adding Level2 smart charging stations. In some cases, it is up to 160 stations per apartment complex. The price to add a charger is $1,500/ea for the developer and the utility incentives are up to $4,000/ea with a maximum amount of chargers per complex based on the number of units.🔌

@138porsche 3 года назад

This is fantastic, well done. Saving this link to share with anyone who comes up with these rediculous arguments against EVs.

@jeepxj 3 года назад

Is all the oil extracted going towards transportation? the numbers are biased towards that assumption. what happens if its factored correctly to transportation use?

@MrCalistarius 3 года назад

Tim, where is the assessment of the carbon contribution for EV’s from extraction of the minerals, shipping of raw materials, conversion of raw materials into the batteries themselves, and then the shipping of the batteries to the manufacturing facilities where the batteries eventually end up in vehicles. We can’t ship lithium batteries on planes. So they’re transported using the same bunker fuel as petroleum is.

@gaborborsodi5802 3 года назад

@@MrCalistarius exactly. That's the part I was missing too. Minerals also needs to be shipped and are shipped with the same ships. And also needs processing too. We are roughly the same pollution wise after the end of the whole process.

@williamarmstrong4328 3 года назад

@@gaborborsodi5802 oh dear me. Yes but is that going to exceed the amount used shipping oil needlessly around the world?? Think about that for 1 second and you will realise no it's not. Also it is expected that by 2050 or sooner no more lithium or Cobalt Nickel etc will need to be mined at all for battery use. By then there will be enough in the system that with recycling no more will need to be mined. It is I. Possible to include every si gle fact and calculation in a video of 13 min long and it still be understandable and still get the point across.. #stopburningstyff

@williamarmstrong4328 3 года назад

@@MrCalistarius shipping is rapidly switching to EV use however the big switch will happen when hydrogen fuel cell technology is scaled up for shipping. The only real safe use for that technology anyway. I know that ships moving oil from Venasuala burn the stock unrefined crude oil! Which has a very high sulpher content and also contains sufficient vanadium metal that issues with the engine exhaust stack blocking up with condensing vanadium Metal is a serious problem for any ship burning it. Engineers have to hammer the sides of the exhaust flues to break up the 2 or 3" thick vanadium metal and drop it down the flue every day! If it's not done it gets too thick to break up and the ship becomes stuck with blocked flues