Evangelicals, Facebook, Cultural Suicide | Overtime with Bill Maher (HBO) 

Al Franken got politically assassinated by all the Democrats who caved in to political correctness ... and the biggest shame was that Bernie Sanders was on that stupid list. The accusers of Franken never got to one thing in my opinion that he should have resigned for, and most of it was a farce. We lost one of the best Senators for women ... and for what ... to give Republicans another win so they will let the fake Democrats stay in office a while longer and continue the sham that we have two parties in America?

HC, shove your insults and go lie with a pig.

Rhonda Weber Same.

I feel that too. He made a stupid mistake, sexist one too. But he owned up to it. With him out of the picture, we lost one of the good guys.

Honorable Catsmeat hey, insult my looks too, please.

Then you should be in jail.

@@janbarrett4544careful snowflake it’s warm outside

No he groped 7 women. He wasn’t fired because of a picture.

Fuck Fuck allegedly.

@@fuckfuck4420 One of 'the gropes' including him giving a side-hug to a lady and the other one was he didn't know where to put his hand at while photographing with a woman and his hand ended up on the meatier part of her hip. That's some far-reaching if I ever did hear it. Most of them ended up retracting their story because they all were dumb accusations.

@@fuckfuck4420 he did not

I no longer open a car door for my date. I might touch her dress. When it comes to sex, I have videotape---not as any kind of trophy---but just in case she claims it wasn't mutual consent

Duncan Wallace yeah, something more often than not, conservatives don’t have. Republican base of course are highly uneducated for the most part and are extremely religious which has a strong correlation to stupidity.

Well that's a failure of all sides. Everyone should get a good education if the country is going to remain successful.

"something more often than not, conservatives don’t have. Republican base of course are highly uneducated for the most part and are extremely religious which has a strong correlation to stupidity." Have any data to prove that allegation?

I know multiple people who are educated, intelligent and capable of critical thought. They also voted for Orange Julius. The easiest person to lie to is yourself. The fact that one is capable of critical thought does not mean that one will always do so.

I'd love to know their reasoning. I've heard 'anything better than Hilary', but that argument doesn't stack up at all. How did they think Trump, someone who is pretty obviously a liar and full of hot air, was going to fix anything?

@ms wpwm Didn't SHE⁉️

Her comment about this and about due process are consistent and highlight the importance of due process outside of the court room

this should be top comment

Senators are not "the average person"

I’m a woman and I do think there should be a difference between a guy who molests his subordinates and a guy who takes a funny picture with them. Lumping them together minimizes the experience of the victim of molestation. I wished Bill had told her that.

Its really not a big deal. If ur broke ur probably not making much anyway unless you suck with money. Pretty easy to get another 15 buck an hour job.

Fuck a job. I hope never to be in a position where some other person or company has that much power over my life. If i'm gonna put in work, i damn sure should benefit 100% of that work. Fuck. A. Job.

He has a podcast now, and yeah I am shamelessly plugging it.

Right! The Franken thing was shameful, and I was sorry he had to give up without a fight. I'm thinking he was pushed.

I am particularly upset that the photo proved he never touched the woman sleeping on the plane. But he did pat a few tushies and gave a couple of unwelcome kisses. But the GOP cheers on steaming POS like Moore & Gaetz & applauds T=Rump (serial rapist - alleged [by only 2 dozen women ] - and KNOWN wife beater) as the Savior of Family Values...oh, the irony (aka HYPOCRISY).

Swnsasy _ : Agreed! But really, nobody KNOWS why Al Franken quit, but Al Franken !! Al Franken, Come Get Your Ass Back into Your Senate Seat !!

he resigned, he didn't lose his job. If you're considering this a joke then you better make the same argument for every person saying offensive things and then having it come out years later. I love free speech and fully support the 1st amendment. I just don't see the picture as a joke. There was no punchline. It was a picture of a man groping a woman. He was called by his own party as well to resign.

@@Flaccid_toast Well if the woman was into it an thought it was funny then it shouldnt be a problem.Its interesting how some view women as special snow flakes alot of women like to goof off to an will pose for those types of pitcures.

BoomStick Critique she was asleep, how was she posing for it, not to mention the other claims of forcing a kiss on her. I would have preferred she came out with it earlier, but at least there was actual physical evidence of groping

I agree, actually. I never cared for Franken, but he shouldn't have lost his job for that stunt. Maybe it's time for dems to stop being so extreme.

Savis Mom Guilty of what, you need to be more specific.

Of course. She’s a feminist

that's most women and men by proxy of the women (fear of speaking the truth that will offend whamen).

Savis Mom "I grab them by the pussy... I don't even wait" - Trump Hmm he's probably not guilty

Savis Mom of course, we have proof, witnesses and he himself has said it. You don't think so?

Wendy Testaburger yea I would normally agree with you but this particular episode was these guys hocking their books. They spent more time talking over each other about their ridiculous books than they spent trying to engage in any meaningful dialogue. Farrow seemed on point and interesting. Bill seemed stoned. The female guest seemed affected and the “Catholics” seemed unfocused on anything but plugging their book. I liked what the “Jewish” guy was saying until he got caught up with the “books” and wasted more of our time without making his point. If he even had one other than selling his book.

Yep just get one side of ideas , everyone is a lefty on the panel.. great diversity

@@amant7963 What? Nope!

@@amant7963 Que ? Wtf are you smoking ? Send some of dat skunk dank ass bud my way. If you even remember your own name still. 😉

I'm glad that insufferable asshat got canned.

@@Aeimos = GRU troll bot. Mention a degraded Den and it posts the same BS e dry time. Mention Trump being a dreaming POS and it accuses you of TDS.

I completely agree. I hate hypocrisy more than anything.

+Claire Knight 100%, but Matt Damon made a similar point - "You know, there’s a difference between, you know, patting someone on the butt and rape or child molestation, right?" - and he got crucified. This is where some elements of the left are shooting themselves in the foot.

This has always been the case with sexual offenses in this country. Nobody wants to put sexual acts on a spectrum and judge which ones are dangerous, which ones are a problem, and which ones are just part of human relations gone bad. Law enforcement, judges, and politicians would be crucified if they used mature, responsible, adult judgement. There are no longer any adults living in America.

When I see Ronan all I see is his mom. He looks just like her.

???? Clinton

Trump still became president, what that tells y'all about America.

@@bessieking3797 bc his accusers ended up being full of it. Just bc a woman accuses doesn't mean she's telling the truth. Just bc more jump on the bandwagon doesn't mean they are either. We are living in the times of emotional currency and there's a lot to be gained by joining in and claiming to be a victim.

@@lolasmom5816 They impeached Bill Clinton for lying about a consensual relationship. Bill Cosby went to prison for something that happened 30 to 40 years ago. Trump caught on tape admits he assault women by grabbing them by PRIVATE PARTS. Trump was also sued for libel for saying he didn't rape a woman. She wanted him to admit he rape her because it was to late to file charges.

@@lolasmom5816 hear hear

Cosmic Rogue, I totally agree with you. I also left the social media site for my own personal well-being, thus missing out on how the 2016 election played out on FB. Through word of mouth from friends who use the sight, I was frightened to hear about so much disinformation being spread on FB (can you say "pizzagate"), that rational people actually believed during the election cycle. Now the truth light has shone on FB and we actually have to confront it's impact on our democracy.

Well said!

Your comment is my me too! Left all social media 2 yrs ago.....and never been happier!!! 💖🏄‍♂️👏 I now spend that "lost" time volunteering for charities and political campaigns! Plus, my kids come with me...and we LEARN SO MUCH MORE about community and LIFE! #IRL

I have to ask where is that quote from?

You're still on RU-vid though... just saying

Al Franken would have never survived in the toxic soup that is Washington today. I don't think he needed to resign, but maybe it was for the best. He could still run for President and win, I think. What he did was a joke -- it's not like he didn't know they were taking a picture of him.

Except for his dysfunctional family. The whole Woody Allen Mia Farrow Frank Sinatra mix. I don't like Ronan Farrow. I'll listen to him but he seems like an opportunist that only got this show because of who his parents are. To excuse what happened to Al Franken is like trying to excuse what happened to Anita Hill ... you have it backwards ... which by the way Joe Biden participated in.

justgivemethetruth for someone with that handle you sure don't care that much about truth. Maybe do some research about Ronan Farow's life and you will understand why he got ti the show.

justgivemethetruth Ronan Farrow isn’t building his brand off of continuing tabloid-like stories about his family life. He’s doing it by conducting great reporting and great work. He could’ve cashed in by playing up Woody Allen over and over again. But he chose not to. He chose to do something meaningful. In that context, I don’t give two shits about his past.

_Except for his dysfunctional family. ... I don't like Ronan Farrow_ Why tar him? Yeah, there's some craziness in his family, but he's proven to be an outstanding journalist. he's poised, well spoken, polite, and astute. Wrong to hate someone because of his genetics.

ehh barely

He's right about the dangers of generalizing offenses for sure.

Yet he was a pussy for not asking Farrow about his own father marrying his step-daughter. No respect for him for letting that shit slide.

What does that have to do with Ronan Farrow? Bill didn't ask that question because it wasn't necessary.

I disagree. He's on the show because he is being given credit for the #MeToo movement...a movement about sexual harassment/assault and predatory behavior by powerful men. Farrow's own father is the poster child for that person. It has EVERYTHING to do with Ronan. A) because it's his father and sister. B) because he wrote the article that started the whole ball rolling (and won a Pulitzer for it. That question was 100X more necessary than Maher's snide comment that questions who his father really is.

Mini-Mia? Yuck!!

He's got the second most punchable face behind Martin Skereli

Those blue eyes and swarthy looks....just like his father

You can bet that homely little neurotic, Woody Allen, had no part in Ronan’s face (or personality)!

me too

I was about to write a comment here, but you cut me off 🙈

That's a bulletproof vest . Never once has the news media commented that is a bulletproof vest that the woman is wearing. That bulletproof vest is a couple of inches thick

@@budbuddybuddest ?

John Matthias she makes big news. When the Comey thing happened she said “white male” on NBC. If I said “black female” anything, what would happen? “We have lost to reason itself.” No we haven’t. They have.

Of course she differentiates she’s not an idiot. It’s a shame we lost Franken but she has a right to feel how she feels.

That's sad you think it's a prank

CWG90 cry me a river fuck face incel, men get decide if what happened to them is not appropriate and women do too. NOT SOME RANDOM TINY DICK THAT CANT TALK TO WOMEN POSTING ON RU-vid.

That's not what I got when she said to use timesup instead.

I really don't like that woman!

except he isnt! #Bremmer

carcillian I was just about to say that. He does look like a young Frank Sinatra.🤔

carcillian: I always insisted that he had to be Sinatra’s son too, because considering the circumstances and his uncanny resemblance how could he NOT be? But then I got to thinking: first of all he does look like Mia very much. Secondly, Ronan does not care for Woody Allen because of the molestation allegations and other things against his sister, and his mother’s feelings about Allen. Therefore, if Ronan really KNEW he wasn’t Woody’s son and WAS Sinatra’s, he would have no problem admitting it. So he must know that he is Woody’s son but enjoys people assuming he must be Frank’s. Mia probably enjoys it too, just to spite Allen.

Actually, admitting that Sinatra was his father would put Mia in a very bad light, seeing as she cheated on Woody.

SoaringTrumpet: Which is why she DIDN’T admit it. She simply suggested or planted the seed of curiosity in people’s minds to get back at Woody Allen. Both Ronan and she know who the father is and if it was definitely Frank Sinatra it would’ve been proven and announced because there’s nothing that Ronan would’ve liked more than to have that help his career and image, since he does not like his father Woody due to issues with his mother Mia. But since he knows he is Allen’s son he would rather the public speculate that he might be Sinatra’s. After all, that’s the second best thing.

No his father is woody Allen. Sinatra’s wife came forward to say Frank had a vasectomy a few years before Ronan was conceived.

Yes, she made that very clear.

John Tuya - I was thinking the same thing. She's obviously scarred and so it's understandable why she's so uncompromising. That doesn't make it right, it's just the reaction of someone who is traumatized. Unfortunate that many with the same perspective don't have her excuse.

Ryan Baker "Excuse?" Lol. Why does anyone need an excuse to take a hardline on sexual assault? It's so rampant that if you haven't had a sexual assault experience you *absolutely* know someone who has. You probably know a man or woman who has been held down or grabbed hard enough to bruise or verbally threatened from a car window because they wouldn't smile. You know someone who's been terrified for what will happen to them or had to live with what has. Is that not enough of an excuse? She takes a hardline when there's proof and promotes investigation. That's not radical.

Gracie C. I knew the word "excuse" was going to draw some vitriol and be sensitive, I perhaps could have used a less loaded word. That said, I still think that this so-called hardline is inaccurate, and that she's going overboard and labeling as sexual abuse when not appropriate. Sure, I've known plenty of people who have suffered and even been subject myself to all sorts of unfortunate situations and abuses, but someone taking a picture of themselves hovering over me and "pretending" to touch my privates is hardly something I would be upset by, nor would I call it sexual abuse and demand their resignation. In his case, the only thing I could call it is unprofessional, but at the time he was a comedian so it was actually a part of his profession...

John Tuya Nazi? Really?...

Haha I thought the same thing

Can he sing?

Jayo I dont. Some women do it for motives of their own. Money, revenge, or desire for attention. They do a disservice to the women who have suffered.

Of course, if you simplify things to that extent, then you'll conclude with something as basic as what you've just stated. I'm curious as to who exactly you're fighting against; a group of people who are 'fans' of sexual assault? Not likely (at least without a large amount of sophistry and defamation). Perhaps we could consider then, that one can simultaneously be against sexual assault and also be a fan of the principles of due process? I could accuse you of groping me right now and you'd be on the list of those accused. Everything we have in civilization that is worth keeping, rests on making distinctions. Conversely, everything worth fighting against will tend to espouse a low resolution view of the world that fails to make distinctions between and within groups and ideas. The clumsy and at times willfully dishonest way that the "me too" and "time's up" movements handle issues set a very dangerous cultural precedent. We should analyse the validity of the claims being made by the accusers (which is why your statement of women accusing Franken means almost nothing to me, without accompanied analysis), coming to conclusions a-postiori.

Mit Sat I love the way you brought your ideas to the table. Do you have some suggestions for good literature or reading material for me so I can get a better grasp on the idea of distinguishing things?

"Perhaps we could consider then, that one can simultaneously be against sexual assault and also be a fan of the principles of due process? I could accuse you of groping me right now and you'd be on the list of those accused. " And there's the straw man. No one has lost their job or their reputation on ONLY a mere accusation. NOT. ONE. PERSON. If you can point to an individual who has been unjustly accused during the me too movement based on ONLY an accusation, please, enlighten me. All of these claims have been thoroughly investigated, corroborated and substantiated. Your insistence for "due process' in cases of sexual assault and harassment is a dog whistle. You know damn well outside of violent rape, it is incredibly difficult for a person to press charges against a predator. Especially in cases harassment. You insist on "due process' because it derails the conversation of the unjust social acceptance of sexual abuse and keeps people from openly discussing and shaming perpetrators.You essentially want women to keep their mouth shut and not rock the boat. By the way, your entire post reads like an overwrought college freshman just discovered John Locke and is now trying to apply his gross misunderstandings of philosophy to justify his pathetic fear of women. Well done, asshole.

Preach it Dan T! As a survivor of egregious sexual assaults, Dan T has a lot of insight to offer.

Tara Fitzgerald, your hostility and confrontational attitude is breathtaking, and ordinarily I would ignore that level of unpleasantness. I think I do need to change on that though, it's much better trying to understand what inspires such vitriol (especially against someone you don't know anything about). The speed at which many people switch to anger has always fascinated me, and I often think it's probably extremely unhealthy (mentally and physically). Lets begin with your accusation of me concocting a strawman. I hope this isn't the first time you've heard of the 'cases' of Aziz Ansari and Louis Ck? Contrary to your proposition that "all of these claims have been investigated, corroborated and substantiated", these instances have not involved anything illegal whatsoever. Creepy and indecent behavior perhaps, but the fact that these both became aspects of the "me too" movement only goes to illustrate my point about failing to make distinctions. As can be easily verified, a number of tabloids and social media narratives would lump these names in with cases like Harvey Weinstein's and Kevin Spacey. Furthermore, there are a VAST number of false rape cases that are very easily found over the internet. I was going to compile a list of them, but I've decided that you should do yourself the favor of looking them up yourself. The most credible estimates of false rape accusations put the number anywhere between 2-10% (most US analysis finds the number hovering around 5% though it is notoriously hard to quantify these things en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape#Journal_of_Forensic_Psychology_(2017)) If insistence for due process in the cases of rape and sexual assault is a "dog whistle", then I suppose insistence of it for murder is also a "dog whistle" for potential murderers to get behind? Come to think of it, following that logic, the mention of due process in every case is a secret call for sympathy towards the crime! Oh well how elegant, I suppose that allows you to dismiss the call for due process without assessing its merits, on the basis of your ability to read the minds of people who stand by it. If you're so good at reading between the lines that you know all I want is for women to "keep their mouth shut at not rock the boat", perhaps you should be using this stupendous ability for good. Come to think of it, I think you would be extremely useful in court, where your mind reading abilities would no doubt be of use in solving the most complex and tricky cases of all. I am slightly flattered that you chose to attack my prose and character, if only because it indicates how hard you find it to deconstruct my reasoning. It shouldn't particularly matter to this discussion, but it may interest you to know that I am a male victim of (quite brutal) rape and assault. I do think I understand the suffering of survivors of rape, and I've really tried my best to do everything I can for those who have been victims of such horror (without conceit, probably more than most). I think it's precisely because of this experience, that I truly do detest the idea that there are people who profiteer from the severity of this type of issue. It seriously hurts the credibility of those who have genuinely suffered, if they are diluted by any percentage of false narratives. It doesn't matter though, the idea is that it wouldn't matter what my past experience was at all, in terms of the validity of my points. I can assure you that I don't view this issue with the prejudice of a "pathetic fear of women", but I doubt this will have any effect on your bias against me. If you take nothing else, please at least consider that the way in which you approach differing viewpoints is extremely unhealthy for yourself. I can admit that there was a time where I used to be almost as hostile as you, and it wasn't good for me at all. There's so much to learn and so many avenues to explore, you'll end up hurting the people around you and yourself if you're this confrontational. I know I may sound patronizing and I apologize if this is the case, but I see this level of tension too often and it makes me sad. We're all just human beings trying to make sense of an impossibly complex world at the end of the day. We might as well try to enjoy the process :-)

/// "Religion is socially acceptable psychosis" Living in Danger

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Kelly Clark, who is this imaginary friend god you speak of? No such thing here in reality.

There go the chrisins blaming everyone for their own crimes... BECAUSE JESUS DIED FOR THEIR SINS... NOT FOR THE SINSOF THE JEWS...

Savis Mom. If there is a god He's a total prick. Have you watched babies and kids suffer and die? I think not.

I'll gift you some. Am moving and don't want to take them with me. You can send me a check for postage or something. Let me know. Have history books and incredible eastern philosophy books

Thank you for your generous gesture. But seeing that I live half way across the globe (in a 3rd world country), shipping will be expensive and also a bother for you to pack. But you made my day just offering. :)

Buy my book.

Shadow Heart what are book?

Shadow Heart no, just ......need to READ more books.

99% of men behave like Al Franken, groping numerous women when he took pictures with them? Wow I just encountered the biggest man hater on youtube, what a low opinion you have of men.

Avocadog the Great Milo isn't a journalist, and doesn't claim to be.

MrShaneVicious he might not be one but he does claim to.

Avocadog the Great I,ll make the assumption that ronan is gay,( I dont know much about him) and he is the product of a fatherless upbringing? more interesting analysis which reaffirms existing data. he is mia farrows son? nepotism can be such advantage in achieving big goals!

Not really. Ronan Farrow is a child genius who got a degree aded

homebrandrules All the gay people I know lived in homes with both mother and father. There’s no connection, if that’s what you’re implying.

Great points. Especially the one on EI. We're clearly still evolving as a species. We'll look back at this point in our history and wonder "what we were thinking". Just like other points in our 200,000 year+ history where our self-awareness and/or newly discovered 'tools' (technology) dominated our focus.

see but the people who have no emotional intelligence or integrity believe too much, and the technology is extremely harmful to someone like that. And children who grow up with Facebook will be bombarded with absolute garbage info to the point they WON'T grow into intelligent people with integrity. So ya, the tech is a huge problem

Yo Mamma...you're right. Kids need to start from a strong base (parenting, education, etc) or they're susceptible to over exposure to anything, be it technology or rapid societal changes. We can apply this same principle to past generations.

Nina Kupchenko He’s weirdly pale and has tiny, tiny hands and feet. He sort of creeps me out.

Googley Eyed what if he is secretly the bastard son of Trump?

Bruno Garcia is he a transgender GYM or just had a bad hair cut? it is tragic he obviously did not inherit the sense of humor

Those Sinatra genes really help.

Woody Allen is not his father. It's pretty obvious who is.

+Judith Bisson He had Jordan Peterson on the show just last week.

I missed last week. I was studying for my exams. Haha

Judith Bisson He needs more good Canadians but not embarrassments like christya freeland

it would be fun to see elisha cuthbert and her perspectives on the world :)

LMFAO!

Backed into a wall by a jerk!!!? What?!

The BIG GAY ME wants to pull her hair back and spray the rest in place.

Thats all I could think!

I came to the comment section just for this. I couldn't focus on anything else while she was talking. Sadly, it almost appears it was "styled" like this...

He truly laughs. Watch other shows.p

Yeah, you cannot tell me half his DNA comes from Woody Allen.

Jimmy loveboat Yes. Mic drop.

Jimmy loveboat: It's always been said that he's Woody Allen's son, but try as I might, I don't see a bit of Woody Allen in his face, just Mia Farrow and Frank Sinatra. I suppose it's nobody's business.

Jimmy loveboat I rather be Sinatra's son, that Woody Allen's for far! 😈😈😈

Ronan Farrow's father is Woody Allen.

Democrats are so eager to eat their own, but scared sh!tless to say anything against Republicans. SAD!

GOP know that Dems will eat their own in a fit of self-righteousness, and LOSE their objectivity and credibility -- and the GOP KNOWS that the GOP NEVER has to be either objective OR credible.

1) I'm an Independent that leans left; not a Dem. 2) Using Trump speech makes you look stupid.

No. Both of them did something wrong. Maybe at different character levels, by all means, Roy Moore was worse, but just because one is in your political sphere, doesn't exclude that what he did was wrong. The GOP establishment currently just doesn't really care what their politicians do. That is the point of my argument. In the long term, it will bite them in the rear end.

Which claims?

Spot on

true ... can you imagine how fucked up it is that Mia Farrow lied to Woody Allen and demanded Woody Allen pay child support for another man's son. That is what her whole thing was ... extortion.

justgivemethetruth - You need to read Ronan's comments on this.

Kent Brockman - Woody Allen married his step-daughter, Soon-Yi Previn.. Their physical relationship started after she turned 20. So how does that make him a pedophile? I don't agree with what he did but I don't abide false information, either. Karma will catch-up with Allen at some point.

justafanintexas Ronan

Dan T - I'll help all of you here. Ronan took a DNA test and it showed Woody to be his father. So put your own glasses on and get a copy of the DNA panel and read it.