This takes me back to when my guy friends were talking about golden showers and I thought it was just a shower made out of gold and searched it up and all the results were about pee
Have medium approval with him and am romancing Wyll for a playthrough. Gave Astarion the Book of Thay and he said to the book he might be up for dispatching Wyll when he fought the book. I wonder if medium approval gives him a crush, too....
@@Sabrina-ju6uv I think medium and high do too. If you don't romance him and go to the drow twins and have high enough approval (I think medium included) they can suggest he join and he says he Tav made the mistake of not sleeping with him and he wants to correct that. At that point you are already invested enough to keep him safe and depending on how you play, yelling him he doesn't need to seek himself any longer, so it's something he genuinely wants, it seems.
My tav was in a relationship with Halsin at this moment, and I had him, Astarion and Karlach with me. Halsin was like "oh yeah, both drows and my lover? I'm in!" And Astarion just decided to say "I wanna join too! TAV made the mistake of not sleeping with me, I wanna correct that!" So my tav said "okay, join us." And I had an 'Halsin and Astarion approves' 😂 And while we were all 'busy', Karlach was just outside the door, all alone and had to wait for us to be done 😂
This is especially funny because if you try to get her in on it she's super weirded out about them being siblings. Poor innocent Karlach, sitting in the lobby, trying not to picture the debauchery.
This one is actually really sad... Romanced Astarion makes it clear that he doesn't actually want to be seen as a sex object and sleep with people with whom he is not in relationship with. He even has problems if he is in a relationship... That scene here is sex scene from act 1 all over again. He pretends to want you so he can gain protection from you... I know that healing is not linear etc but this scene is just so very sad
@@helheimhellhound Protection from the evil world, monster hunters and self righteous heroes with no empathy for example. Astarion until Cazador has extremely negative view of the world and he considers every person as either a pathetic victim, naive idiot, evil perpetrator or evil bystander. He can start healing after but it's not a magical switch and healing is not linear. Furthermore a lot of people still vilify him (just look how the gurs dehumanize him at every possible occasion). Astarion's deepest desire is to be safe and he has been conditioned to believe he can only achieve it by letting himself be used for pretty much his entire life. Just killing Cazador won't automatically change his fears, habits and worldview in an instant. A comparison of what he says in his romance route when he trusts you with this scene kinda also confirms he is not being honest here. It gives act 1 romance scene vibes. Also if you play as durge you get a confirmation that it's not just Cazador that he is afraid of but pretty much everyone and everything.
@@pixie3803 indeed he is not. He's also not a little baby in act1 or act2 and yet it's clear he's only using his body to gain protection. Besides he is still a former slave and sa survivor with body autonomy issues who straight up tells you in his romance route he doesn't want to sleep with people he is not involved with anymore and that he has problem saying no. There is a reason why romanced Astarion asks the player not to make him do it but "friendly"Astarion in the same scenario propositions. He obviously is more honest with romanced Tav which means the scene above is just him acting and using himself like in act1. He doesn't need to be a baby for me to find it sad.
After you kill Cazador and get the final romance scene, he’ll be interested in trying it and will go through with it, but the narrator says that as you gaze into his eyes, he seems a million miles away implying that he’s not enjoying himself. I feel like before the final romance scene, he declines bc he and Tav have discussed not basing their relationship on sex bc he explained being forced to use his body as a manipulation tactic and sex is tainted for him. Meeting and propositioning the drow twins makes him feel insecure, like Tav is sexually frustrated and tired of waiting on him. Afterwards, I think he’s more open because he has found clarity in enjoying pleasure but with someone he loves. He finally found the reason he wants to sleep with Tav isn’t through manipulating an alliance, or because he’s horny, but because he loves them and likes that type of intimacy. That’s why I never sleep with the drow twins regardless because the way they fawn over him and treat him during the scene seems to bring back the tainted memories, even if Tav is there with him
I haven't killed Cazador and I didn't romance Astarion and I had this dialogue option anyways. So it seems to happen when the approval is high (he drinks my stupid Tav's blood)
@@MarinaCorbiWow, getting this dialogue with an unromanced Astarion will be a different level of hurt for me. It’s like he’s still so desperate for protection that he’ll do anything to ensure that you sleep with him.
@@katiatall I do feel like it could be both. While it seems to lean toward the protection angle, he might also want to try this as a means of regaining control and knowledge of himself.
that's how I accidentaly slept with him. It was late, I didn't read text carefully and when he said about correcting mistake I assumed it was about him setting boundaries like earlier with Araj (I had this scene day before).
You can make astar join in??! In my playthrough i was romancing him and halsin and he said he wasnt comfortable because of his history and to ask someone else 👀
He‘s faking it because he needs Tav‘s help/protection, basically act 1 again. If you romanced him, he’s already being honest with Tav AND himself, and everything about the situation stresses him out. He doesn’t mind you and Halsin going, though. After you disposed of Cazador, he is open to try. He hates every moment of it, but at least the decision was his own.
