One thing I'd consider- failing a Cetus bounty means you can start the same order of missions again. So if you find a suitable mission order that you fail and repeat constantly, you can exploit bounty stages that have a duration similar to Ukko, while getting rewards of tier 2 and 3, perhaps even 4. Doing lvl 40-60 stage 1,2,3 in 4 minutes (1 minute buffer to fail and restart etc) is 60/4=15 rounds so 15 × (0 + .3304 + .3304) = 9.912 per hour. (Mix of capture, escort, and cache finding) If you are really fast and do stage 1,2,3,4 in 5 minutes then 60/5=12 rounds so 12 × (0 + .3304 + .3304 + .2568) = 11.011 per hour. (capture, escort, cache, and one fast stage)
I wonder if the zarimon bounties are more efficient given the new archon Titania nuke build exterminate missions in roughly 1-2 min even with low drop rates it has double the chance at the same speed of ukko
Don't let Ken fool you. He will absolutely stop you from buying relic packs with Plat. Its said if you do it in the dark aside from your monitor, he'll appear behind you like the candy man.
One thing to consider is that whilst lower tier bounties have worse droprates, they can still be more efficient for two reasons: 1: They are faster to complete 2: They are easier, which in turn increases your odds of securing the bonus. Each open world has like one specific bonus objective that is a pain in the rear to get: Keeping zone control up in Cetus, not getting detected on solaris espionage, getting twice the amount of kills of the Grineer in the Necralisk Grineer support thing. The longer a bounty, the more likely you are to have one of those objectives and the higher the odds that you lose your bonus due to bad luck, failure or just plain BS.
True, the last one for the Necralisk Grineer bounty, you can go Mesa to spawnkill the enemies and give no change to the Grineer. It's always my pick when farming Aya.
Only objetive more of a pain in plains than area control.... capture the target without killing anyone else. In a game where aoe is king, you are with 4 seperate people who all have at least 1 ability that is meant for killing active the moment the stage starts. I have even on solo without companion NEVER achieved this secondary objective. It sucks. Giving it a 5 second "immunity" so you can shut off things like redline safely is a must QoL imo
It's been like, a year since I did the biggest aya farm I could (1230 total) so I want to chime in on the conversation here. Each bounty is determined by its name, that is to say, if you choose a bounty with the same icon & name, you will get the same objectives in the same order. Of course, the one I used the most on deimos escapes me, but it avoided the grineer support stage completely and was the most efficient farm I could make, averaging 11 aya per hour. You can apply the same knowledge to other open worlds and optimize from there, hope it helps! EDIT: Forgot to add this, but you can set your open world to a 'tier' by choosing a bounty with the tier you want, and go to specific bounty givers that show 3 bounties (i believe) that will ALWAYS be the tier you chose beforehand. Good luck farming!
Kengineer, what about which bounties you should actually be doing? Here's my rundown. *Plains of Eidolon* Assassinate: bonus demands 15 kills in 1 minute. This is pure RNG. Cache Recovery: bonus demands it be done in 3 minutes. This is pure RNG. Capture: bonus demands no extra kills. Your own pets or (armed) sentinels will fail this for you. Drone Hijack: bonus demands a healthy drone. Difficult without Wisp. Exterminate: just kill enemies. Easy. Liberation: bonus demands keeping over 50% control. If enemies refuse to spawn (happens often) or you kill too fast, bonus fails. Easily the hardest objective in PoE. Rescue: kill guards, unlock collar, jump over to delivery zone. EZ. Resource Theft: just keep the console healthy. EZ with Wisp, maybe difficult with others. Supply Sabotage: bonus demands 30 enemies dead before the last crate. This is pure RNG. In summary, it's a nightmare, but at the same time you get some respect from seeing how capable the Grineer are of being extremely destructive. They'll fugg you up. *Orb Vallis* Assassinate: get 1000 credits in time. Easier than cake, as you can run into the bunker for free crates. Cache Recovery: find caches in 2 minutes. Hard if they're in the facility, easy if they're airdropped. Case Capture: don't let Corpus get crates. You can easily cheese this by using Operator to grab another crate, or even grab 2 at once if they're close enough. Easy... Unless it happens in the Orokin Cabbage Field. Then it's hard. Coildrive Hack: bonus demands not much damage to the coildrive. Very difficult if you can't spot and kill the enemies fast, and the coildrive can't be healed by Wisp. (you might have noticed I main her) Drone Hijack: kill enemies nearby. Somewhat RNG if you can't keep up. Excavation: it's excavation. Just do the normal excavation. Cakewalk, but harder if you're not alone. Exterminate: it's extermination. Just exterminate enemies. 2 EZ. Rescue: bonus demands getting 3 timer keys. 2 EZ. Spy: bonus demands stealth. 2 EZ (once you learn the correct routes and have Operator to do them) In summary, quite manageable, and the stages happen in so few zones you'll get routing memorized quickly enough. *Cambion Drift* Assassinate: keep the cauldron healthy. Just use Wisp for easy times. Cache Recovery: destroy tumors with at least 40 seconds remaining. With archwings for aerial view, this is a cakewalk. Excavation: it's excavation. Just do the excavation. Use Wisp for easy times. Extract Samples: gather enough samples in just 5 activations. Start collecting from the outside and make way inward. Tricky to learn, but simple. Hive Extermination: it's more extermination. Exterminate the things. EZ. Liberation: keep control over 50%. Unlike the Grineer one, this is much more manageable. Like really manageable. Protect Latrox Une: keep his drone alive. EZ. Compete against Garv: always have at least double their kill count. Real challenge, as you have to wait for the big eggs to open before shooting, and you have to shoot them within 1 second as Garv's team will get them in 2 seconds. Also Garv must survive. Deimos Delicacies: keep the Juggernaut healthy. Easy if you're killing enemies fast enough. Infested Research: use only 3 sacs. Be patient and wait to use the sacs on at least 5 enemies. Cracks in Deimos: don't break more than 2 bottles. This is only doable with Operator cheesing: grab a bottle, Transfer, Transfer again on the objective. It's impossible otherwise. In summary, once you learn how to do it, the only bad part is Garv. Everything else is consistent. *Conclusion* Not only is Cambion Drift the place with the highest rate of Aya, it is also the easiest place to get it, with the least RNG and external intrusiosn. Please attach this to your report.
Good summary! Just wanna poit out that lately the excacation on fortuna seems bugged. I have 3 full shielded, full HP excavators, all 100% filled and within 10 seconds of each other. As soon as 2 of the 3 are done, the third one just exlodes. No enemies need to even be present it just self destructs ad you fail the objective. Really sucks and has happened everytime I did a vallis bounty
Tip for Deimos bounty where you have to beat grineer kill count - use Mesa. When using her 4 you can auto kill them as soon as they pop out. I used to hate that bounty but when I switched to Mesa it became easy mode
Difficulty really comes down to opinion. I agree that the liberation on Cetus is trash so I usually avoid Cetus missions. But imo Fortuna has the easiest missions by far and the rates are the exact same when doing a T5 bounty. So I think it’s tied between Fortuna and Entrati.
@@toobigtoobathe9087 Yes, they're mostly tied, but the Garv stage really is the only hard one in Cambion Drift. Oh, and my observations are for single player. If you can get a team, it's easy to have one player suited for specific scenarios, yet at the same time most stages scale in time and difficulty with more players around.
I've been having a lot of luck running t3 bounties in the open worlds, mostly the orb vallis. It's not the "most efficient" method, but it's one that nicely balances difficulty and reward in a way that I can just autopilot my way through it without having to think at all.
A tip on getting the fastest bounty from Deimos called brute force 1 get a t5 bounty from inside of Deimos get put and abandon mission 2- search 4mothers outside one of them will have the mission find it and redo it as much as you can
As someone who has almost every prime item in the game, I find it nice having Zariman giving kuva, plat, and endo on top of Aya for later use. Gotta love the Zariman.
@@Praneeth_- yeah, for real. Unless they mean giving rewards you can trade for Plat? But...what rewards can be traded? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but my memory is garbage so don't hold me to that.
Cetus may have the best drop chances, but has the worst missions by far. And also those are the most likely to bug out. Imma keep doing Deimos cuz they are funner and actually less buggy than Cetus. And Deimos solo bounties is quicker than with a squad
I would have loved to have a chart comparing them all at the end. It is as if the video had ended soon, there are no conclusions that you usually give us at the end of each video
I dont know if it was calculated in but doing bounties also gives you standing, which you can then turn around and hand in for relic packs. Might not be much but sure sounds like efficiency to me. Part of the reason why I prefer doing void fissures in the void; getting new relics as I use up older ones.
It's a negligible difference, especially due to standing caps. Either you hit the cap too quickly for it to be useful, or you're gaining so little standing it doesn't matter.
Thanks for confirming that I was doing the right thing running open world bounties. I usually do the bounties in Cambion Drift because in my experience they are the fastest (the Infested die fast). If you are having trouble with the bonus objective during the Garv stage, just use an AOE weapon. I tend to use my trustworthy Xoris.
Tier 4 Necralisk bounty. The reward pool is smaller and there usually is a bunch of people doing it so you can fet about two or three aya every 5 bounties, i have gotten 4 in one mission before.
Disappointed DE didn’t decide to change aya source locations. Imagine if they considered creating an arena game mode to earn it . That any player can access, has small raid mechanics and the better you work together the faster you get to final boss encounter.
This is just a return of Prime Resurgence. It's being released along with Veilbreaker and while Duviri development is in full team. They don't have the time to make new gamemodes besides those things right now. That's why even the discussion on whether raids should be released was delayed till next year
Also don't forget to check the prices for the prime frame or weapon before starting the Aya farm for them... no point spending hours grinding Aya to get a prime frame you can get for low plat because you could just farm other things to get plat and trade it with someone instead of farming aya
oh my god i thought this would only go for a month but it goes until this months and then changes to different primes holy shit thanks for bringing that up
can i just say i think i was just in the weirdest trade in the history of warframe? so a guy in trade chat (ps4 EU btw) wanted garuda's "blending talons" augment, so i pm'd him that id give to him. i really wanted volts "capacitance" augment and because i wasnt max rank with a syndicate who had it, i asked the person for it. he said he didnt have it and shoved a whole GARA PRIME set into my face and accepted the trade..... im not complaining though, her parts are crafting in the foundry as i type this bizarre comment that probably only 3 people will bother to read... all in all.... *W A C K*
When you see a survival steel path void relic mission, do it. The rewards are fantastic the longer you last. 2 hrs the other in day in Mot got me over 300 steel essence, 4 aya, tons of credits and resources. Bring your Smeeta!
@Swift BMF In void fissure endless modes you get a bonus after every relic opened. One of them is a resource drop chance bonus and these apply to steel essence. The bonuses go up to 100 percent after 18 (I think) relics opened. So you're progressively getting more and more steel essence. With a resource drop chance booster it will cap at 8 per acolyte. Smeeta buffs act as usual, so one will get you 16, a double 32 etc. And after every relic opened you get 1 extra steel essence just for being you (the boosters and bonuses don't apply to that one extra though). So after you cap the bonus you're guaranteed at least 9 steel essence every 5 mins. Maybe 17, rarely 33 and even more rarely 65. With a bit of luck with the smeeta buffs 300 in 2 hrs is perfectly doable. With some real good luck maybe even 400 or more. The key with smeeta buffs is that steel essence disappears after being on the ground for about 4 1/2 minutes, so you want to find a good spot to camp where you can kill the acolyte quickly somewhere around 40 meters from where you're camping, then let the steel essence sit there until you get a buff. If no buff happens after 4 1/2 mins then pick it up. Acolytes will always spawn close to where you're standing, so right before they appear just move away (but not too far) from your campsite. Then when he appears jump back to your campsite and kill him from a distance. Of course, you'll need to CC or be invisible for this to work. I use Loki (ez mode) but Ash, Octavia, Ivara ... For me survival in the void is the best because there are good campsites and you also get relics every 5 minutes.
An important aspect that needs emphasis regarding using standing to buy relic packs is that that your calculations were for Legendary 2 players. Most players who 'need' aya the most for progression will be sub L2, meaning they will be even slower at generating aya via those relic packs. I would imagine many L2 players have all or nearly all Prime MR items already, meaning their Aya will probably be focused on getting relics they can use to generate plat either by selling hte relics themselves, or selling parts farmed from them. Something I'v been doing regularly for about a year now is using faction standing to buy a relic pack or two every day, so that I always have plenty of relics. Even when I'm not opening relics or looking for anything, having plenty of spares I cna take to generate ducats or void traces is always great, and when a clanmate needs a chance to get something, chances are I got a few can radiant, even if it's vaulted. One thing I think you shoudl mention, however, is how it is NEVER worth it to use aya on Ducats. the lowest ducat item from a reclic is 15 ducats, meaning you're 'paying' 10 ducats to NOT open a relic by spending aya on ducats.
It is also worth to note that some bounties (Name of the bounties) are extremely fast while beeing the same tier. For example the mission core samples on deimos is slower than the mission Brute force. So it is worth doing the steel path version if the better mission is the steel path one. Otherwise doin steel path has the same drop chance per reward.
Imo, Entrati and solaris bounties are the way to go since I had to farm aya solo I could do tier 5 with bonus in 10-12 minutes (thanks to Octavia) and get 2-3 aya per bounty. Just make sure in solaris that the bountie has 6 rewards not 7 because I keep getting 1 or 2 aya when it's 7 rewards.
@@redjumping with haloman's method you don't have to travel to the relay to visit Varzia. It just instantly brings you to the screen where you purchase stuff
Farm is all about efficience, so if you still need to level up your ranking in any open world, that would be the better choice, but if you are already maxed out on all off them just go for the better rewards.
Greetings Can you please make a video of the Wukong and Umbra bug. As far as I understood what DE Pablo said, the clone uses our ammo to shoot, but I have been at full ammo and the clone doesn’t shoot or even use melee when I’m shooting. It just stands there like Loki decoy eating bullets. this bug essentially destroys 25% of Wukong abilities. And there is no AFK involved. The clone will attack (gun or blade) for like a minute then it just freezes. Umbra is having the same issues.
NOTE ON PS4 (maybe PC) SIDE: There is a ongoing issue with Orb Vallis bounties with stages that involve +1-2 excavators where if one finishes will cause to force end the stage prematurely as a completion successful but fails the bonus as a result. There are many other bugs on the PS4 side (maybe PC) ever since Veilbreaker like swapping between operator and warframe may end up locking the warframe from swapping to operator, cast abilities, or shoot at all... Another one is basically the game crashes for no reason, which is something I did not experince before veilbreaker.
I prefer doing T5 deimos bounty since it's much easier for me and I get a lot of aya. I got lucky one time getting 4 aya in one run doing T5 bounty on deimos.
also, if you're doing open world bounties and getting standing for that, you'll be able to buy relic packs for more aya too if you do exclusively T5 Deimos bounties and trade all the mother tokens for relic packs, is that more efficient than the other open worlds?
You'll hit the daily standing limit before it matters. Either you max out quickly (32,000 standing at most, 1.5 packs, around 0.3-0.4 Aya) or you don't max out quickly and it just doesn't matter.
I still believe the ayatan statues should be tradable for aya. Maybe possibly one aya for each star in each treasure traded in. Itd certainly give them a new use.
But the Prime vault rotation used to be multiple months. The most we ever got was 5 in 1 year. Going back 12 vaults is the middle of 2019. This is a huge improvement.
WOW i cant believe they implemented this, this totally fucks over vet players hoarding long vaulted frames to sell. I quit the game many months ago myself but i know many who are probably not happy about this including myself because I hoarded tons of uber rare relics when they implemented the aya vendors the first time a while back. This really sucks for sellers but is great for general playerbase.
I managed to spend 250,000 standing on relic packs(I stacked up on the syndicate statues) and got 5 aya from it. Is it worth it; I say yes 100%. (Debatable also my opinion) Me personally I have no use for the mods/guns because what I need I have. Decorations are decoration, and if your the person that sell the mods for plat then keep going. I think it’s worth because all the reason above and you also get relics and don’t have to actively farm for standing it’s passive. If your full in standing use it.
I do think it's worth noting that if you need/want Endo at all the Zariman bounties are probably a very good way to farm that as you farm for Aya. And if course it's also quite good for farming Focus. Zariman bounties aren't the best purely for Aya, but they are letting you farm multiple things at once you're likely to have need for. Obviously if you also need some token for the Entrati or debt bonds, go with those bounties instead, but the Zariman is a fantastic general purpose bounty pool.
If this is accurate and they aren't just ratcheting up the chances at the beginning of every prime resurgence, then I have been having some absolutely terrible luck today
My only "I'm too lazy to read into it" question is do we still have relic unvaulting or is the only way we're getting volt prime relics now aya farming?
Question: steel path void survival w/ resource booster, use the steel essence from each 20min run to buy a relic pack. Can anyone who’s good at probably help me with the stats here?
Mot survival on its own you're looking at about 1.5 Aya/hour with 20 min runs. A tiny bit more with endurance runs. As I showed, it's about 68 steel essence per aya from packs. You'll need to see for yourself how much essence you're making. Assuming 10 acolytes an hour with a resource booster, that would be 40 essence/hour as a starting point.
Void capture is by far the best option despite the lower chance to get aya. Not only is the lower chance gets compensated by lower mission duration, but you are also guaranteed to get a relic if you don't get aya. A price of a single neo or meso relic is at least 1p, which is also your minimum platinum income per mission. A single aya relic right now costs between 3 and 5 platinum, so as long as you can find a buyer for either the relics or the prime junk you'll get from them, you should be able to afford buying an aya relic every 3 to 5 capture runs. Obviously enough if you're unsatisfied with the trade chat prices, you can use warframe market website, where the prices are a bit higher.
Hi, you might be watching in audio-only. While I didn't explicitly say it, I show on screen the Tier 5 bounty for each open world has the highest return.
Most convinient way is start highest rank bountry than you go mine or fish or treasure hunt Or afk right outside the gate Then suddenly you get some ayas in the end of mission
The BEST way to farm AYA is by waiting for a Void Capture FISSURE and double dip opening relics and getting AYA at the same time. You never farm 1 thing at a time in Warframe. In this case you will be farming AYA, Prime Parts and Void Traces (that will be used in your traded aya relics!**). That being said, its ok to check there are fissure missions on the void and do them when available and if there are none just farm Aya on bounties. Please pin this comment if you agree. ** having to farm void traces later to upgrade your aya traded relics will take you time in fissure missions.
A lot of people would be furious if Regal Aya became tradable... People were ticked off just because Vaulted frames became easy to obtain during resurgence. Just imagine how every prime accessory owner would react when their premium items became free.
I am so done with the grind. I don't know why I assumed a Void capture would give a guaranteed Aya instead of a random unvaulted relic in the past. I thought this would a system to help players catch up on old Primes, and considering it would take over a yearř to cycle through them all, still time consuming. But 10 Aya per hour assuming the god damn bounties do not bugg out? With how long it takes to farm Aya and how many of them you need in the first place to get the full sets? Like hell naw, I'm out, I don't want to spend my time on this. The drop chances in this game are horrible, I'm still never letting go of COndition Overload that took me over two years to get. I'd rather farm FFXIV mounts
"i thought this would a system to help players catch up on old Primes" you realize its far faster than it was previously now that prime resurgence is here to stay? Some frames have been vaulted for YEARS. Now the longest you have to wait is 14 months. Cope kid.