I loved Halo4 why don’t same pattern mjolnir armors make sense? Trainers couldn’t tell the boys from girls. Halo Reach armor doesn’t make sense. Something that cost the equivalent of a space ship didn’t have verity and you couldn’t add hubcaps to it like George
@@malevolentntt8005 Mjolnir is fitted to the specifications of the wearer. This is where the customization comes in, lore wise. It makes sense, given that a Spec Ops unit like Spartans are the best of the best of the best. You give them the best gear to get the job done, not mass produced crap that doesn't fit them correctly.
"irrelevant dead ones" said the guy showing spartan Stone, who literally saved all of humanity (or at least made it possible for chief to do so in infinite)
@@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial well you might just not know because what she did was in the most recent halo book, if you're find with spoilers tho i'll tell you
@@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial Its not really a spoiler, Stone had died corrupting data which denied the Banished access to the Rings security stations. It bought the UNSC enough time for the Master Chiefs luck to kick in and save the day. Its story is in the audiologs and the book Rubicon Protocol
@@thevgmlover Yeah you should def play it, as an RTS and shooter/Halo fan I enjoyed it, tho it is a bit "basic" as an RTS but there is really nothing wrong with that imo, I still play the original Command and Conquer games LOL. Basic isnt bad. And it nails down the Halo feel perfectly despite not being a FPS. It really makes me wish Halo could get a wider variety of games/genres, sorta like Star Wars where you have shooters, strategy, RPGs, action games etc.
Spartan Sorel took out an entire fireteam of Elites, grunts, jackals, and brutes. His final kill was an elite he killed with damn screwdriver and had to be killed by Hyperious and Tovarus, two of Escharum's Spartan Killers. He alone kicked more ass than Majestic and Osiris together.
Then Noble 6 overshadows them by single-handedly hold back the covenant to make sure the pillar of autumn gets off planet and then take over 3 days to die while constantly fighting everything the covenant throws at them
@servellion it was an advanced blade and if it was the the armour would be destroyed so it might be blademaster because he said I like to leave art or something like that for the master chief to see
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Those dead Spartans in Reach were awesome. Really sold the we’re not getting out of here alive atmosphere. The ones in Infinite were in the Rubicon protocol and it was sad seeing them dead in game. If only we had actually seen them die. Like he could’ve taken out their helmet chip like he did in CE and watched their final recordings
Seeing Stone’s final combat recording of her fighting Jega and the Brute he was with (I forget the name but I’m pretty sure he was one of the Bloodstars or Hand of Atriox) would’ve been an incredible way to set up the confrontation with Jega. Same goes for helmet cam footage of Griffin being interrogated by all the members of the Hand, and of Sorel and Mako being killed by members as well. It would’ve added a lot more weight to killing each of the targets. Chief expresses that he’s avenging the dead Spartans but it would’ve been so good to actually see what the Banished put them through that needed avenging.
You can actually find dead Spartans before the final mission in reach. After jorges death. You can find several dead Spartans in the city level. In fact a few rangers will comment saying they thought all the Spartans in the area were dead.
You can see Linda in the og halo 1 as well not just the anniversary edition. Linda is from the books incase someone was curious. Right before pillar of autumn chief and Linda and a few other Spartans were on a mission and Linda got hit with a charged plasma rifle so chief threw her in the cryopod to try and save her one day
Linda-058 was clinically pronouced dead after being hit by a charged plasma rifle round to the back of the head, when John is in the Longsword at the end in lore he retrieves Lindas Cryopod via a tracking beacon in the pod
The final cutscene on the longsword only shows one spartan and Cortina says all that's left is dust and echoes. The second spartan is "Dust and Echoes"
oof. honestly, the UNSC in 4-5 were extremely just.. unprofessional? and Palmer perfectly explains my point in that scene. she- a Spartan 4 who could have her spine torn out of her back in a second by Chief- was throwing shade at Chief and disrespecting him. keep in mind, this guy saved the entire galaxy like 2-3 times over, was seen by like.. everyone.. as a literal LEGEND, was propagated even further by ONI to a state of godhood, and Palmer's just an asshole to him, like..
Wanted to see more of her in halo 5 as I thought 4 was pretty good.. she did nothing in 5 and wasn't even in infinite like what the hell same gose for locke could of had a little something in infinite
@@Bloodfangmh no, in the book Johnson escaped with a group of ODST's and a few Marines in a pelican, meanwhile, about 2 days before, all the occupied cryotubes we're ejected into space so they could be collected later, because they didn't have enough time to wake everyone up, and Linda was in some sort of twilight, between life and death in the cryotube. (She was killed by an elite before the escaped reach) (not to mention if she had stayed on the Autumn we would have had to deal with a flooded Spartan and that would suck). Chief actually picks her up and then reunites with Johnson and the others in space, then they hijacked a covenant flag ship, made it back to Halsey and red teamand Fred and kelly on reach. Halsey revives Linda, they merged the covenant flagship and another UNSC ship (I forgot the names), then they went and made a temporary aliance with insurectionists hiding in an asteroid field. Then they leave them to die, by the covenant. and then they go and destroy 75% of regret's fleet before making it back to earth and warn them about the upcoming covenant attack, also (Johnson is immune to the flood, thats y he survived.) That is a summary of the book "operation first strike", you should go read it it's good. And that's basically where halo CE ends and halo 2 starts.
@@periwinkle2486 oh ya i forgot about that, she split herself and left part of her on the merged Unsc/hijacked covenant flag ship. and then she accidentally split herself like a thousand times? i think i don't remember. thanks I forgot about that.
Adding. She was severly wounded by plasma fire during the invasion of reach while on an orbiting ship to destroy nav data that someone failed to purge as per the cole protocol
@@jaredbarnett7947 I think Jerome is the only Spartan 2 that has the buildup to take Chief's main character mantle. Only rivaled by Buck's well liked ODST pizazz.
The dead ones in Infinite are actually VERY relevant. Not only do they build suspense for the Jega and Hyperius/Tovarus fights, but if you read 'The Rubicon Protocol'.. well.. it'll make more sense.
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 no? there's also a novel version. if you had more than 3 iq and looked it up, i'm sure you could find one. but i'm sure the coloring book would appeal to you, wouldn't it?
@@sierra121cyan why you being so rude, all I’m saying is that I wish the story they told in the colouring book was on the game. Like for real I didn’t do anything to you and your calling me a reee tard? That’s very angering
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 1. i'm not calling you that. sorry if it came off as super rude, i only intended it to be a joke poking fun at you (i assumed your 'coloring book' joke was sort of a poke at me, as well) 2. there are non-'coloring book' options available. 3. it'd be hard to incorporate into the game, but you get the important stuff you really need to know in-game, so i really have no complaints- if you want to dig further, there are the SPARTAN audio logs and, obviously, the Rubicon Protocol available
@@sierra121cyan No I just thought it was funny to suggest that 343 would put the lore in a coloring book instead of the game. I don't think the lore is bad or the book is. I am sorry if I was angry in my response, Thank you for explaining what you meant.
the disrespect to Red team, not even a mention to how badass they were. going into hell, first to fight the flood, and kick ass on the remnants of the arc if the chief were to ever fall, or they wanted to pick a story to tell from another spartan i think Red team would be the best choice, they have a bit more personality then chief but are still quiet badasses that can solo armies
Jerome is best suited to take the mantle of chief ever falls. Hell he was originally one of the 4 Spartans they considered making a Master Chief Petty Officer
@@ShadowCompany01 yeah, but leaving out alice and uh, damnit i forgot the third Spartan, but leaving the other 2 out would just be an insult to the teamwork and bond of red team
@@ShadowCompany01 i ment it more like, they shouldnt just make the other 2 dissappear if Jerome becomes the protag, they should be part of the supporting cast
I was kinda surprised there was no mention of buck from ODST becoming a spartan, I know we got a nod to Osiris team but it would have been interesting to point out
The Spartans that spawn dead at Lone Wolf are mentioned by Carter and Kat during New Alexandria. Fun fact, there's 13 Spartans there so that when Noble 6 dies they become 14, which is double for, you guessed it, number 7.
Spartan Linda was mortally wounded just before the events of Halo, during the first encounter against Covenant Brutes. Spartan Linda’s cryo-pod was jettisoned, as per protocol, before Keyes brought down the Pillar of Autumn manually onto the Halo Ring. After the ending cutscene to Halo, Cortana picked up Linda’s transponder beacon from her cryo-pod, Master Chief retrieved her, and brought her back onboard. During the events of First Strike, Linda received medical attention and was revived. After recovering other Spartans (including Dr. Halsey, however, it was learned that Spartan-Jun was MIA after delivering Dr. Halsey to the ONI facility and a covenant scouting party attacked the facility) from within the underground ONI facility on Reach, Master Chief was re-United with other members of his fireteam that survived on Reach. After Cortana learned how to manipulate a covenant cruiser’s laser weapon system to properly dissect another covenant cruiser that was attacking them, albeit in an awesome way, Master Chief and his Spartan team (Linda included) made it back to Earth for Halo 2. But before docking with UNSC Orbital Station CAIRO, the UNSC Command requested Master Chief’s Spartan team for another mission. Which is why Master Chief was the only Spartan on the UNSC CAIRO station for the start of Halo 2.
the dead spartans in halo reach give such a brutal vibe, it's like all the remaining spartans contacted eachother to group up and hold the covenant as best they could in a last stand so the rest of the unsc could make a run for it
Spartan 4's are not Spartans. You have to earn this title. Take away their Mjolnir and every Spartan 2 will fold those clowns into pieces. They are inferior in every single way.
@@bobsemple9341 Yes I read the lore. More then you. That is exactly how it works. Look what the Spartan 2's and 3's have gone through. They are forged in fire basically. Spartan 4's are clowns in power armor
Reach also had mention Echo, Red and Gauntlet Teams in New Alexandria as being ‘redeployed’ from Jun, and given the names it’s save to assume they’re Spartans and not Marines, Soldiers, or ODSTs as they’d end in Squad, Platoon, or something along those lines
The dead spartans in the Halo Reach mission Lone Wolf is fireteam Beta Red if you listen to the radios on certain maps in Halo reach you will hear mention of this team. They all died defending the Pillar of Autumns evacuation.
This actually makes me think about how rare a Spartan was before they managed to create Gen 3 and Gen 4 and it's still not like mass production, but at least humanity manages to make Spartans a more common asset than before
Jerome. Douglas. Alice. Agryna. Dinh. Ecklund. Davis. The Warmaster from Spartan Strike. Demarco, Madsen, Hoya, Grant, Thorne. Fireteam Crimson, sorta. Fireteam Castle, in a Pelican. Dinh's dead fireteam. The spartan that saved Agryna as a kid.
Fun fact: If you've seen the Halo Legends short "Prototype" that armor that Ghost wore was a Prototype to the spartan program and was meant to be mass produced for people like Sergent Johnson and all the Orion 1s but "Project Yggdrasil" was scraped in favor of Project Mjolnir. Love the references to Norse mythology bungie included in the original lore way better than this shit 343 is forcing us to grit our teeth through.
The Spartans in the opening scene of halo 4 are canonically sound Halsey at the time was talking about the Spartan II program and how in humanity's darkest hour the sparten II's came to combat the threat. Keep in mind that all the spartn II's were given the same mjolnir armour with the only exception for some having different helmets or colours. so with that information in mind it is completely rational to assume that this was a deployment of spartan II's wearing what was at the time the standard issue mjolnir armour at the start of the human covenant war.
I think it's pretty easy to explain the mass amount of Spartan 2 in the Halo 4 armor. It's just a stylistic choice. In the Halo universe it looks the same to them they see literally no difference
Johnson was from the spartan ones meaning he was of the first so he definitely does count, if he can go toe to toe with an elite or a brute he’s definitely worth being on that list