... and your country vote this year as every other year for the best song only, besides any political or social reasons. Just a reminder here, it's the ESC you are talking about... The best song almost NEVER wins.
@@orpheaslivitsanos Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey exchange twelve points and vice versa.
Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
@@sotiq3883 Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa. Scandinavian countries aren't one people two nations.
@@benthewheel30 the judging committee gave 4, the Greek public gave 12p. And indeed it became an issue in Greece 🇬🇷 all this. No Greek agreed with this.
I know right? Let's not talk about voting blocs. We'll be here all night. Hello Soviets. Hello Yugoslavs. Hello Nordics. Hello Albania-Italy. Hello Spain-Romania. Hello Turkey-Azerbaijan (older one). I can go on.
It’s because we are all Greeks, it’s one nation but two separate countries. We even have the same national anthem. If Kosovo participated the same thing would happen with Albania
@@thegattostareng2588 Noone votes according to the songs. 90% of the juries and people vote according to political and neighbooring or historical issues. Why Greece and Cyprus shall have an exception from it? Also it is a matter of culture. The same do the scandinavian the ex soviet, the ex yugoslavian states, Romania and Moldova, Turkey and Azerbaijan, and so on...
@@ΙωάννηςΕλ because you ALWAYS give each other 12 points, is embarrassing. Other states at least give 12 points to other states. But I agree with Scandinavia as well, they always help each other every year
@@thegattostareng2588 OK I got it. But have look on the list please.... Greece gave 12 points to... 2006 Finland 2007 Bulgaria 2008 Armenia 2009 UK 2010 Cyprus 2011 France 2012 Cyprus 2013 Azerbaijan 2014 Austria 2015 Italy 2016 Russia 2017 Cyprus 2018 Cyprus 2019 Cyprus 2021 Cyprus
If Turkiye hadn't invaded the island to prevent the union, protect its 18% minority, expel the christians from their houses and divide the island, most propably we would have been one nation by now
@@ahsuniverseslaysnaaaah... why to be ashamed? Have you ever watched the contest? It is a contest where countries win for political reasons (Ukraine for being at war, Sweden/Finland when they applied to NATO etc) - most nations vote their neighbours in blocks like the Nordics (Sweden,Finland,Norway,Denmark,Iceland) , the Balkans (Serbia- Montenegro, Croatia, BAH, Slovenia), Albania-Italy,Romania- Moldova, the Baltics(Lithouania, Estonia, Latvia), the Eastern Slavics etc. When all of those are ongoing to the contest, it's hypocritic to focus just on two small countries exchanging votes between each other and mocking them - they are the same country after all, with the same artists and the same music industry. If an artist of your country that you listen to often was representing another country you would vote for him/her, so why not?
@@athlitikosomateioanth4567 Nah, you guys are fucking cringe. Germany, Austria and Switzerland don't do this and they pretty much speak the same language. Pretty much all western countries at least have the decency to be relatively unbiased.
@@mermaidgurl the whole point of the contest is for the best song to win. If every one acted as balkan and tribal like you idiots then every year the results would be the same and there would be no point in holding the contest
I see your point. But at least the situation with Scandinavian countries is not 100 % predictable because it changes more. Greece and Cyprus are so predictable that it seems to be only about giving points to the country no matter which song it is
@@MrCph2200 look, we all know about friendships and neighbors. Nordic countries support each other like Balkan countries etc do. Greece and Cyprus is like one nation and not just friends that's why Greece and Cyprus give 12 points each other.
@@MrCph2200 Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa. Scandinavian countries aren't one people two nations.
Η Ελλάδα και η Κύπρος είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και άλλες χώρες ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο όπως η Μολδαβία και η Ρουμανία που είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη αφού αυτές οι δύο χώρες έχουν τη ρουμανική ως επίσημη γλώσσα και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο. Το Αζερμπαϊτζάν και η Τουρκία είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα βαθμούς και το αντίστροφο. Οι Σκανδιναβικές χώρες δεν είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη.
But the Nordic countries don't exchange their maximum points at such a great level, in 2019 the Norwegian jury gave their 12 points to Czech Republic, in 2021 to Malta and in 2022 to Greece (the singer lived in Norway so I don't know how subjective that was), the Swedish jury in 2021 didn't give Finland any points and the Danish jury in 2022 gave their 12 points to Greece and their 10 ones to The Netherlands, although many other countries gave Sweden 12 points that year.
I mean, we are supposed to be one nation. Other countries do the same thing, like Turkey, and Azerbaijan (or did because we haven't seen Turkey sinve 2012, hope they'll return eventually), or the entirety of Scandinavia trading 12 points (mostly to Sweden) It is what it is.
There is a difference between partly politics or entirely politics. And if Greece and Cyprus should be one nation, they should have one entry in Eurovision, not two.
Η Ελλάδα και η Κύπρος είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και άλλες χώρες ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο όπως η Μολδαβία και η Ρουμανία που είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη αφού αυτές οι δύο χώρες έχουν τη ρουμανική ως επίσημη γλώσσα και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο. Το Αζερμπαϊτζάν και η Τουρκία είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα βαθμούς και το αντίστροφο. Οι Σκανδιναβικές χώρες δεν είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη.
Yes... Kinda true but Greece betrayed us and gave us 4 points instead of 12 that gave them to Belgium and i think they did that just because they didn't get into the finals but when we didn't get into and Greece get into the finals years ago we put them 12 that just don't feels right...
Wdym "betrayed"? Giving each other 12 points for 15 years just because the countries are similar "don't feel right", I hope that this year was the dealbreaker
@@ola7540 we are not similar we speak the same language have the same history we're family and no it's not because they want to stop it we all Cypriots know it's because they get jealous that they didn't get to finals and we did
The greek committee of five "experts" gave 4 points to Cyprus. The greek people who voted allover Greece gave 12 points to Cyprus. Greeks loved the song of Andrew.... We gave 12 points...
I can't understand why some people have problem with that, while happens exactly the same thing with 1) Russia - Belarus 2) all the Scandinavian countries 3) all the countries from ex=yugoslavia 4) Germany - Austria 5) Turkey - Azerbaijan 6) central Europe countries and many more "allies" Almost every country votes according to its politic allies, it is not that big deal anymore
As a greek I feel ashamed that our jury gave them 4 points, if those idiots gave Cyprus 12 points, they would be in the top 10, in Twitter,every greek and Cypriot person is angry with that decision
What about Azerbaijan and Turkey, Romania and Moldova, Serbia and the other ex-yugoslavian countries?? Then why your problem is only Greece and Cyprus??
Η Ελλάδα και η Κύπρος είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και άλλες χώρες ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο όπως η Μολδαβία και η Ρουμανία που είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη αφού αυτές οι δύο χώρες έχουν τη ρουμανική ως επίσημη γλώσσα και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο. Το Αζερμπαϊτζάν και η Τουρκία είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα βαθμούς και το αντίστροφο. Οι Σκανδιναβικές χώρες δεν είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη.
We're practically the same people! Every country would do that if they had the chance to vote for their own country, or at least someone very close to them. Good for us! 😉
A question : I noticed that Greece's and Cyprus's televotes always give each other 12 points (except from 2022 when Cyprus gave Ukraine their 12 points, but they still gave Greece 10 points), do you guys in these countries vote for the songs because they come from these countries even if you don't like them? If the song was in the Greek language with elements of Greek/Cypriot traditional music I would understand it, but if it's a ballad in English pretty similar to many other countries' entries would you still vote for Greece/Cyprus?
Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa. Scandinavian countries aren't one people two nations.
ONLY from 2017 to 2021? hahaha 🤣🤣 I cannot remember a year when Greece and Cyprus juries DIDN'T give each other 12 points!!! 😂 Only the jury participants change, the final result for them is always the same.
Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
Η Ελλάδα και η Κύπρος είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και άλλες χώρες ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο όπως η Μολδαβία και η Ρουμανία που είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη αφού αυτές οι δύο χώρες έχουν τη ρουμανική ως επίσημη γλώσσα και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο. Το Αζερμπαϊτζάν και η Τουρκία είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα βαθμούς και το αντίστροφο.
So the point here is that in the ESC contest Greece and Cyprus are the ONLY countries that vote with political criteria besides the value of the song? Lol... Wake up!
@@Losowy The disapproval in the stadium every time Greece or Cyprus will give 12p to each other speaks by itself. Hypocrisy from the side of the haters.
Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
I don't understand what's the problem about it. All the years north Europe and Slavic countries support each other even if their songs are bad. So what's the problem with this?
Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa. Scandinavian countries aren't one people two nations.
Where is your problem? I can't understand. We are the same Cyprus and Greece. THEN MAKE A VIDEO WITH THE SCADINAVIAN COUNTRIES GIVING EACH OTHER 12 POINTS AND MANY POINTS IN GENERAL EVERY YEAR. SO DONT BE JEALOUS AND MEAN TO US. BECAUSE ALL COUNTRIES DO IT AND SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRIES HAVE REACHED THE LIMIT.🤮
Η Ελλάδα και η Κύπρος είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και άλλες χώρες ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο όπως η Μολδαβία και η Ρουμανία που είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη αφού αυτές οι δύο χώρες έχουν τη ρουμανική ως επίσημη γλώσσα και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο. Το Αζερμπαϊτζάν και η Τουρκία είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα βαθμούς και το αντίστροφο. Οι Σκανδιναβικές χώρες δεν είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη.
I find this 12 points exchange between Cyprus and Greece stupid, because there are songs from both Greece and Cyprus that may not deserve 12 points. If a song is good, that's ok, but there were times when was like why did Cyprus gave 12 points to this song, or how could Greece give 12 points to this song. Yes, this is a comment from a Cypriot, and I have friends from Greece who say the same thing.
To all those people claiming that it is not political, I want to remind you Ukraine won because of politics, Russia was expelled because of politics, Sweden and Finland finished first and second the very same year they applied for NATO membership... but I guess the Ukrainian song was a masterpiece🤣, the Russian song had a copyright infridgment and that's why it was expelled (and not because of any political thing like war for instance🤣)and Finland and Sweden winning had nothing to do with Russia or NATO🤣... Also neighbouring countries never vote for each other🤣 like the Scandinavians never really vote for eachother but they are super objective and the same applies to Romania and Moldova, the Baltics etc. So the only problem in this so OBJECTIVE contest which is clearly about the best song, is two small countries voting each other on a stable basis. 🤣 So no it isn't an objective contest but even if it was, almost every artist that participates for Cyprus is Greek/Cypriot and vise versa. Greek music industry and Cypriot music industry are actually almost the same. So when Foureira for instance is a famous singer that lives in Greece and has its base and fans in Athens, when she is representing Cyprus of course she will get 12 points. Same with every artist as many artists that live in Greece are Cypriots (like Eleftheriou which sang Aphrodisiac in 2012 or even Anna Vissi who represented Greece in 2006). So Cypriots are representing Greece quite often and Greeks or Cypriots that have their base in Athens represent Cyprus quite often as well. My point is that when you see artists from other countries they are foreign to you, but when Cyprus and Greece have the same artists in their industries. Almost every Greek artist is known in Cyprus and almost every Cypriot singer is known in Greece.
Lmao y'all can stay pressed but we'll always be exchanging 12points😂😂 y'all just jealous. Greece and cyprus are the same nation, y'all wish to have such awesome brother nations like we do😎 cry harder
Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
This is such a meme I'm surprised Greece didn't end up giving Cyprus 12 points in a year when Cyprus didn't even qualify just for the lols (or the other way around).
By the way Turkey and Azerbaijan always gave their 12 points to each other between 2008 and 2012, they don't do it anymore because Turkey stopped participating in 2013.
Yeah most people here in Turkey complains about the political voting in Eurovision but we were doing the same thing with Azerbaijan 😂 (before them it was Bosnia who got a lot of high points from Turkey) And this year the juries of neither Greece or Cyprus gave 12 points to each other which was a little surprising (especially Cyprus only gave 7 to Ellada)
Yeah i really dont like this i mean i am from Greece but it doesn't make sense i mean 1 time ok 2 times ok 1900000000000 times no i mean i dont like it anymore 😥 I know that we are kinda the same countries but that dont means we only vote Cyprus or Greece The Cyprus.... So yeah thats my opinion too😄
Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
Tengo un plan es separar grecia y Chipre en las semifinales eso que da fuera en la competencia y en la final da una votación que no son los ambos. Una va la final
Judging us is a joke at least You need to know THAT Greece and Cyprus are one Nation And what about the same thing Norway-Denmark-sweden-finland Or Russia-Belarus-georgia-armenia-ukraine(before the war)-estonia-latvia etc
Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
The real problem here is that the votes of the Turkish Cypriots are not counted. İf Europe could count these votes. Greece never take 12 points from Cyprus.
Turkish Cypriots have the same rights as all everyone else, so they are entitled to to vote in every election in the Republic of Cyprus. This includes the right to elect the vice president of the country, as well as the right to elect a proportional number of Turkish Cypriot representatives in the parliament and municipalities. The can also vote for the ESC if they so please. All services of the Republic of Cyprus are available to them, such as free medical care and getting an EU passport, despite the fact that they do not pay any taxes nor contribute to the economy in any way, as they live in the part of the island that is under illegal military occupation. And as a reminder, Turkey won the Eurovision song contest in 2003 thanks to Cyprus. Up to that point Cyprus and Turkey had never given each other a single point, but in 2003, Greek Cypriots gave 8 points to Turkey which was enough to give Sertab the win by 4 points over second placed Belgium.
@@NYAndreas If you look at him, he gave 12 points to your competitor in Turkey in 2005. He gave 10 points to Sakis Rouvas last year. So what you're saying doesn't make sense from that point of view. If you see the north of the island illegally, you will not say the republic of cyprus, you will change its flag. If you think that Cyprus is the only country, you have to count the votes of the Turkish side. You already know the TRNC politically by not counting the votes on the Turkish side. If the votes on the Turkish side will not be counted, you will not use the flag of the island of Cyprus in one piece. This thing is that simple. Don't act like it's your business.
@@yasin_gokmen3754 Not sure what you are talking. Turkey has given Cyprus a grand total of 1 (one) point, which was in 2004 for Lisa Andreas. Beyond that single time Turkey never voted for Cyprus.
@@yasin_gokmen3754 There is only one country in Cyprus. You ask for representation when TCs can also vote and are counted towards Cyprus. Maybe you don't understand that even if we don't like the song we still vote for Greece. Our votes don't resemble a natural distribution at all. Also there are waaay fewer TCs in Cyprus not including Turk settlers who shouldn't be there. I bet a fewer percentage watch eurovision in the north too.
Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa such as Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
Η Ελλάδα και η Κύπρος είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και άλλες χώρες ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο όπως η Μολδαβία και η Ρουμανία που είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη αφού αυτές οι δύο χώρες έχουν τη ρουμανική ως επίσημη γλώσσα και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο. Το Αζερμπαϊτζάν και η Τουρκία είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα βαθμούς και το αντίστροφο.
@@fyr_og_flamme_vasil evet hatırlıyorum ama sözde kıbrıs devletiyle bir tutamasın... Kıbrıs türklerinin haklarını savunuyorum sen burada yunan yalakalığı yapıyorsun azerbaycanlıya hiç yakıştıramadım
@@meltemdagl7994 Slaves? The only ones who enslave the people north of Cyprus is Turkey that doesn't let them unite with the rest of the island and illegally occupies them. Not to mention there are barely any Turkish - Cypriots left in the north because of Turkey's actions, sending Turks from the mainland to live there, Turkish Cypriots who support their nation are forbidden to show the Cypriot flag or say they are cypriots - in the end they are forced to move south. Also many Turkish Cypriots participated in Cyprus' national finals for Eurovision and can vote if they are using a Cyprus' phone, but Turkey doesn't allow them to have that either, so better blame your nation buddy.
Η Ελλάδα και η Κύπρος είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και άλλες χώρες ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο όπως η Μολδαβία και η Ρουμανία που είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη αφού αυτές οι δύο χώρες έχουν τη ρουμανική ως επίσημη γλώσσα και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα πόντους και το αντίστροφο. Το Αζερμπαϊτζάν και η Τουρκία είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα βαθμούς και το αντίστροφο. Οι Σκανδιναβικές χώρες δεν είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη.
