And people constantly underscaling him and his verse lately. Beginning of super they were already at our blows will destroy the universe levels of power. And shit's grown wildly since.
@@Brainman43512 He did have a point though. There's nothing compelling about massively overpowered main characters that just overpowered for the sake of it. There's an anime about an isakai that gets insta-death powers. It was a funny watch but I'll never be tempted to watch it again.
Why not bring Veldora to. (Or I wasn’t clear Rimuru has 12 Gaurdian lords and the 4 above are part of the 12 the other 8 are Kumara Shion Alman ( or something like that) Bengimaru Zeigon Geld Gabiru Ranga.)
I seriously love these, it’s the ultimate form of “Shut.” And that’s it But also to answer Vegeta, I would also like to throw Noir’s hat into the ring (aka the primordial demon in “That time I got Reincarnated as a Slime” or maybe even someone like atomic samurai from “On Punch Man”?
@@fernandonazario3210 well, my thought process was this, Atomic samurai is someone who can cut through basically anything because he cuts at an atomic level, but someone like Genos can only fight from a physical standpoint, and I don’t think he could crack a planet in half even at full strength (I haven’t seen the manga yet so maybe he can idk) Tatsumaki? She could probably just throw massive meteors at Vegeta until he died
hit surpassed that shit and can go 10 or 20x the amount he used to do and that was in that one match with goku 10 seconds aint shit but besides shinra and those 2 gods who else in that verse is fw current manga goku as for slime it isnt done yet but neither is dbz
Get up, Kakarot. We dbz fans will not tolerate failure. Akira Toriyama intrusted everything to you, his legacy, his life. Surpass all main characters. DO IT KAKAROT!!!!!!!
Nah bro, Toriyama didn't write Dragon Ball so people would wank his character beyond everything just for being strong. That's why he had to make Dragon Ball Daima. He didn't want Dragon Ball to be unbeatable verse or anything, just a fun adventure for everyone to enjoy but the fans ruined that for many people including me. Y'all are the who are disgracing Akira's work and pushing everyone away from it by that mentality you have
And thats the problem: All of you always say can he beat goku thought? You never question how is goku? How does he take the loss of toriyama? Is he in a fighting shape after THAT kind of loss? Think that first, THEN you can try hypothesising if characters can defeat goku
Lowkey, it’d be dope if Sun Wukong, just pulled up and started comforting Goku like he’s his son. Kinda sad Sun Wukong doesn’t get as much recognition as he deserves, instead of ‘Can He Beat Goku?’ How about we ask, ‘Can They Beat Sun Wukong?’ Although, this is all just a suggestion if you make another goku video, love ya vids btw!❤
@@The_original_oneLook, let’s be real IF WE USE ACTUAL cosmology calculations they ain’t winning. Beside they don’t even have anywhere near Rimuru’s feats lmao.
@@marioblaze2723 just like how basketball, baseball, soccer animes explain their moves before shooting you don't have to be op to talk fast in anime bruv
@@coo1gam3r49 Yeah i Just wanted to make a joke that the the guy was really slow but that scene was in real time and if It wasn't then that Just shows how fast Hit Is and plus the thing with players telling their move Is just to show us their toughts in slow motion otherwise every anime character would be like Super Sonic+ at least
The thing about that, Saiyans learn as they fight opponents, yeah Vegeta lost to Hit but since he fought him, he knows how to deal with people with time powers...so chaos control MIGHT work but not so much.
@@bonziforest52it gets worse because knuckles has full control over the master emerald which is infinite power and becomes a literally god that can do whatever he wants. In canon the emeralds can also bring back the dead, but was only used once
Strongest character: we will destroy you and your verse goku! Goku: ok fine...but who is the strongest actually? All strongest character: duh me😏 *All the strongest characters look at eachother* Goku: finally... let the war begin😈
@@andyo5554 he quite literally does that on a daily basis …everything they can and will do superman faces and one shotted someone 10 times stronger then them
Not necessarily. Super Sonic and etc yes, but even Base Sonic without emeralds can go against most of DB By Sonic 06, Sonic, Shadow, AND Silver all hit 4-D and only grew since while DB didn't even have ONE character hit 4-D until the TOP, mind you DBS is 2018, SONIC 06 is 2006. Do the math 2018 2006 2012 This means a 12 year difference, before DB Characters even hit SONIC 06 levels, so yes current day Sonic Characters in Base can Solo DB Also in 2018 Sonic Forces, Sonic confirms he gets stronger EVERY SECOND and this is in his BASE FORM
@@ShadowGamerBrothersthey already went 4D when they gotten the passage to go into the kai realm. No one except those chosen by the kais or extremely strong warriors can make it to the kai realm. The realm is separate from earth's and other planets heavens and is above the plane of the heaven of heavens. All those I mentioned are all infinite in size.
@@Thecor13doesn't make it a higher dimension or a higher dimensional structure, if 3D beings that canonically can't survive in outer space, can exist there. Same thing with the Kais being able to travel to earth and exist with no problem. No higher dimensional being can just move from a higher to a lower dimension without any complication or staying the same, that's not how it works. It is a separate dimension, I'll give you that. But they are NOT higher dimensions
Itd be funny if for Tensura he chose Veldora as the side character and hes a disembodied voice as dragonball is fiction to him in the series, as he learned the kamehameha from manga hes read in Rimuru's memories
@that1guy712 Hahaha Wait, you're being serious? Hahahahaha, look bro, I've watched and read the novels and manga of both series, vegeta ain't touching the cardinal world let alone the verse, same applies to Zeno let alone vegeta
Goku black ain't even the stronger version of Goku at this rate he's gonna call on xeno and cc goku because apparently that's the final debate from the one who says can he beat Goku or can he beat xeno or cc Goku.
@@gabrielcharles4235 maybe but I don't think Goku blacks mindset is gonna change anything thou. He would need cc Goku or xeno Goku and it'd s big maybe.
@@ZakariaM16 1 no 2 doesn’t matter if he isn’t canon tell anime shinra to fight anime goku who wins then? DEFINETLY NOT FUCKINF SHINRA doesn’t matter if he’s not canon people can still use him in debates and he shits on everyone here
@@ZakariaM16 no he doesn’t demigra said he was gonna destroy all of dragon ball and even the real world and he got one tapped by base xeno goku base xeno goku is outerversal honestly with the real world feat xeno goku is boundless he can’t even transform into super saiyan blue or it would destroy the whole entire infinite multiverse
@@CarinoIvan-bk4ir Hes not half human. you are thinking of trunks, goten, and gohan. (Children of vegeta and bulma, goku and chi chi respectfully) which are human hybrids considering their parents are human and pure blooded sayains. PURE BLOODED
Gokus not part human butbut there's one thing bout Goku ya need to know, even if he can't beat em, he's still ready for them, he don't care if he was fighting God himself, he'll want to fight, Goku likes to fight strong people out of curiosity really, to see how strong they really are too him, he doesn't fight someone to prove something, he wants to fight someone to just fight, nothin else, but if your his enemy, he needs to test out how strong you really are too see if he needs to fight at full power, typical Goku fashion fr@@CarinoIvan-bk4ir
No bro it wouldn't be a battle, Zegion will Shrade Vegita in less then a nanosecond. In one second we gonna see Zegion lecturing Vegits's Shraded dead corpse.
Sailor Saturn (to Vegeta): define beat. Are we talking a straight fight or in general? Vegeta: lets talk in general Sailor Saturn: I'll evisterate the planet and be fine. Vegeta: I know instanteous movement. Sailor Saturn: I'll be where you are in a few seconds.
Fun fact, ANY Archie Sonic character that's imbued with the power of Chaos can solo most of Dragonball. Archie Sonic verse is not the one to mess with.
@@dony1716 He isn't. Archie Sonic characters are time and reality warpers. Vegeta can't even beat the heavy hitters in his home verse, he and you should stay in a second class sayins place. DBZ Dick riders really don't get that that verse is nowhere near the strongest in anime. Or fiction period.
