I hope Secret Wars ends in a soft reset that allows the main Avengers, Spider-Man, X-Men, and FF to all exist in the same world at the same time like in the comics.
@shaneadams8165 I have a feeling that that may require some recast that people won't like though. Unless Disney just keeps up with the dump trucks of money
X Men 97 should stay as their own universe to tell more grand and complex stories that can't be wrapped up in a two hour movie. They would really have no limitations.
97 is its own thing, I get the whole multiverse thing, but even Feige and the creator of 97 have said its a standalone. The fox X-men are currently Canon until it is changed by the reset, LIKE IT OR NOT. Deadpool 3 was Canon, and they made Logan, the end of the X-men timeline, Canon
Honestly i really liked the frist fantastic four movie i was a kid when it came out of course but ive went back and watched it sure it has issues but didn’t deserve the hate it got
@ph03nixr0s3 IT REALLY WOULD, Fun fact. James Marsters who played Demon King Piccolo in Dragon Ball Evolution was actually cast as Zamasu in Dragon Ball Super and in games ever since. He himself was given a redemption arc in the best way possible. Granted he himself a fan of Dragon Ball, did try to fight for his character to be as faithful to the manga as possible but I digress, if a redemption can happen to James then the same could be said about Miles
If the demon in an armor story didn’t exist, then I’d agree that this doesn’t work. If No Way Home and Loki didn’t exist either, then this REALLY wouldn’t work.
Why it wouldn't work? it can just be considered as classic MCU character recycling, turning them into another character by adding layers to their previous character. Example is White Wolf and Mordok. Questionable virtue, high Ego and Intellect is already present on Tony Stark so it wouldn't be so hard to make him the Doom. Just add some trauma and send him to Kamar-taj and he's basically Dr. Doom
I'm sure RDJ will totally kill it. But can't help feeling like it's a bit of a disservice to the OG Victor Von Doom. He deserves a proper origin set up. But hey it's multiverse now so they can make anything they want now.
@@kane7173They should just make and call him evil Superior Ironman Tony Stark which is what he will be. Save the real Doom after they Reboot the MCU after Secret Wars
I personally LOVE the idea of Miles Teller’s Reed Richards back as The Maker. I would also love to see Nick Cage’s Ghost Rider, Thomas Jane back as The Punisher or War Machine Punisher, 03’ Hulk back or even as version of Maestro. My last wish is obscure but it could be so cool… Toei Spider-Man (Japanese version). Him coming into battle with the other Spider-verse characters and his robot Leopardon would be EPIC.
If they do bring out the animated characters for big movies, either keep the scene small and keep them in their style or give them an actual real design if they have a bigger role.
@@mythic6632 I did and what didn't make sense to me was why Wade says he was digging up Wolverine from his grave in North Dakota, but in the movie Logan they said he was buried in Canada his home country. why??
@@mythic6632 I think they say or imply that the Logan that died was in the same universe as this Deadpool. I believe he says to the new Wolverine that his Wolverine died saving those kids. maybe it could be a 4th wall break moment, saying North Dakota as the actual place it was filmed in, if it was. that would be kind of funny
Maybe I’m stupid, (my wife says I am sometimes) idk how people can’t tell the difference between RDJ iron man & RDJ Doom. Like I can tell the difference between Chris Human Torch & Chris Captain America, as an example. Now yes years passed an different studio. However if they had been same studio an not many years I still don’t see the problem. It’s a different universe 🤷♂️
People can tell the difference. The problem is that RDJ's Tony Stark is genre defining. It's going to be very hard to not look at him and just see Tony. Chris Evans was a good Torch, but that role isn't even close to as famous.
I’ve been saying Teller as the Maker for Secret Wars would be amazing. Sadly we’d be unlikely to see the full original FF team because…..well if you know you know
You know there's a way it could work. If instead of doom being a variant of Iron Man. This world's Iron Man is a variant of Dr doom. In the comics Tony Stark was adopted by Anthony Stark. What if on the majority of worlds It was Tom Cruise that was Iron Man. But on the prime Earth Anthony Stark instead adopted a little baby from a gypsy family in Lavaria?
@@blackdynamite_5470 I really do wish they hadn't brought him back but here we are. Either way, the fact that Wolverine, Deadpool, Spider Man, Doctor Strange and the Fantastic Four will be in the finale of the Multiverse Saga is enough for me to give a shit. Also, Doom is great. I have a feeling they will rehire Jonathan Majors or recast Kang, and wrap up his storyline. They've simply referenced it too many times to just drop it like that.
You're wrong, Marvel's contract with Sony says Marvel has control of how Spider Man is presented in film and Sony has to adhere to those set guidelines or the film rights to the character revert back to Marvel. Sony can't change anything in regards to how Peter is portrayed, his sexuality etc. They have to stay consistent to how the character has always been presented.
Sony has certain final authority over casting and the script when it comes to Spider-Man which is one of the issues behind the lack of news of what the next Spider-Man film will be about. Marvel it seems wants the next Spidey film to be street level and feature Daredevil,The Kingpin, and the Punisher. Sony wants to duplicate the success of No Way Home (and set up additional Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield produced Spider-Man films)by having another crossover Spider-Man film which Marvel sees as stepping on Secret Wars. It seems that Marvel and Sony are heading towards a compromise where elements of both storylines will be used.
I think its very telling of the drop in quality of the kang arc, that they brought back rdj like this. They needed him to save marvel with iron man 1, and now they need him as a dr doom
Reedwas also iin the void until only Johnny wasleft. If the 1st F4 will bein Avengers, it would include Johnny sincethey would come from a different pointin time
Top 10 cameos Id love to see in Secret Wars. Even if they’re tiny: 1. Howard the Duck from 1986 2. David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury 3. Thomas Jane as Punisher in War Machine’s armor 4. Ben Affleck’s Daredevil 5. Matt Salinger as Old Man Captain America 6. Ioan Gruffud as Mr Fantastic 7. Nicholas Cage as Ghost Rider 8. Jared Leto as Morbius 9. Michael Fassbender as Magneto 10. Lou Ferrigno as Hulk Honorable Mention: Phil Coulson as portrayed in Agents of Shield.
RDJ is the real Marvel Jesus Look at his stance at comic con. He knows he's a Disney God He about to bring Disney some bread by selling an unholy amount of tickets 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
That was such a underwhelming death. I enjoyed MOM but that ending really messed it up a bit for me. I hope they bring her back and give her arc a better end
@@shrekshrek8307 Wanda has to return in secret wars because having her death be in Dr strange movie is terrible and the way she died was so anticlimactic
Bring in the badass character actors that did the heavy lifting in the Roger Corman F4 from the 90s. Whole lot better than what we got in the 2010s that's for damn sure.
I hope they bring in the darker side in as well. Werewolf by Night, Elsa, Moon Knight, Man Thing. All great and there's room to grow them (especially Moon Knight)
I can tell you right now, Wanda Maximoff went to that void in Deadpool and Wolverine. There is a Statue Of Wanda I think it is in the underground base of Blade, Gambit , Electra , and X 23. I suspect that was why Dr Strange went into the Void and was killed by Cassandra Nova.
Your previous video has been trending like crazy, alot of people seem to grasp the idea now Although I still believe rdj will play the original doom, and he just so happens to look like Tony stark😂
Regarding Spider-Man characters in the MCU, I'm hoping they largely keep them separate from the Spider-Verse series - for now. What I mean by that is that Miguel may be - intentionally or unintentionally - trimming the connections in the Web of Life and Destiny to keep his branch of the multiverse separate from the rest of the MCU. The only event we've seen bridge the gap so far was No Way Home - with Miguel mentioning "Doctor Strange and that little nerd back on Earth-199999" and both crossing over with Venom's universe (which would make that part of the Spider-Verse side). This would keep the movies largely isolated from anything Marvel decides to pull, and _might_ even preserve it across an event like Secret Wars. It's a branch that's overall less stable than the rest (-> glitching outside your own universe) - however, in turn they managed to develop stabilization tech that may stave off the effect of incursions. So it could be a branch that Loki didn't manage to grab, but isn't immediately unraveling either. This way you can set up a more contained live action roster of Spider characters in the MCU. Possibly with variants of some Spider-Verse characters. I'd love to see the scrawny nerd variant of Miguel from the original Spider-Verse comics for example. Then you can later bring those over into Spider-Verse later. Something along the lines of them exploring the Web of Life and Destiny from their end, and managing to open a connection across the division, raining on Miguel's parade and proving him wrong by example...
A cool idea with the Loki dies thing is: The new life for a singular timeline universe could just be a seed from the multiverse-tree that Loki creates as a safeguard or it "sprouts" from the tree towards its end to spawn the new universe. Thats my take with the whole tree motive the multiverse has atm.
@@prospersikhwari5289 I suppose I could see them doing a quick flash of a universe where everyone in that universe is animated or something. Like how in the 2nd doctor strange they were quickly going through universes But even that is highly unlikely And 100% guaranteed for sure not going to be on the same screen like in rodger rabbit...
I will gladly take a Who Framed Roger Rabbit scene if we get Alison Sealy-Smith as Storm reminding an army of doombots about their place in the picture.
Ok i have the perfect theory for RDJ as Doctor Doom (Not based off previous comics) 1. RDJ is playing a Tony Stark Variant from the new Fantastic Gour Universe. In this world, Tony from the 1st Iron Man Movie never escaped out of the cave and the original Mach 1 Iron had a misfire and accidentally disfigured Tony. Stark enterprises never progressed from that point due Tony never returned to his birthright. Instead he creates a new identity as Doom based off being an Arms Dealer. He makes a sizable fortune from his endeavors. Since stark enterprises stalls without Tony at the head, a new smartest man steps up as Reed Richard’s and they move into the tower and rename it Baxter Building and the story writes itself
Tom is 100% getting the black suit in SM4. How? Who knows, there could be a bunch of decent explanations on how he ends up with it. BUT, It's going to be cool to see the reunion of Tobey and Tom, and then when they suit up Tobey see's that Tom has succumb to the Black suit. Even just a look of "oh fuck" will be epic.
Do you really think Tobey and Andrew are going to return lmao. I’m not against it or anything, I’d think it would be cool, but I don’t think there’s a high chance they’re returning
@@JorgeGomez-hx5uu I mean if Tom’s spider man has the black suit going in to avengers 5 then that would explain why tobey and Andrew would come back to kinda help take back control of Tom’s spider man I could be wrong tho 🤷🏾♂️
Man, don't you miss waking up Saturday mornings, sitting in front of the TV, eating some Frosted Flakes or Cap n Crunch or Cookie Crisps watching X-Men, then Spider-Man cartoons?
Rob refusing to be miserable with the "gatekeepers" is why he's the best comics channel. Y'all continue to whine at anything marvel does while we eat over here. I have faith in RDJ
This x1000. I immediately wanted to see what Rob would cook up with this news. I've never seen so many people be up in arms while simultaneously say they don't care about the MCU anymore. Also I've seen so many people say this casting is desperate and was done because the MCU is "failing" which makes no sense. This Doomsday movie and RDJ as Doom is only a reality because Jonathan Majors got in trouble. if Majors stayed clean we would be talking about Avengers: Kang Dynasty right now not RDJ.
@@mr.l5783And Marvel clearly has a plan with RDJ as doom. They knew this would be the reaction, but it’s gonna make sense when we finally see it on screen
People saying "he can’t play two characters! What are they doing?" Seem to forget that Chris Evans played Johnny Storm and then killed it as Captain America. People can play multiple characters. It can work. Let's calm down and remember that RDJ has amazing range and the talent to pull this off.
Not in the same franchise, and don't try to talk about Deadpool because Evans in that was a meta joke not a major villain with a whole Avengers movie named after him.
A lot of people played 2 characters in movies outside of the MCU continuity, and for everyone who's played 2 characters in the MCU they were pretty minor roles that are hardly memorable. The closest you get to this in the MCU is Gemma Chan playing Minerva and Cersi.
Imagine if we get Galactus’ origin story happening in the background as the multiverse collapses and he’s reborn into the new singular universe as the new big bad.
I’m not sure about this. There are so many great actors Marvel/Disney could have enlisted, but they went with RDJ. RDJ is the embodiment of Tony Stark…10 years no less. It just feels lazy but time will tell.
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Imagine if Kevin Feige just fires everyone at Marvel Studios and brings in completely new people to start a new marvel cinematic universe. That would be absolutely crazy and an absolutely new and fresh unicerse 😂😂😂
They should just make and call him evil Superior Ironman Tony Stark which is what he will be. Save the real Doom after they Reboot the MCU after Secret Wars
Dead Franchise 😂It it such momumental BAD decision,theres just no hope whatsoever they could save the future of the mcu with colossal failure like the marvels and bad decision like Pedro pascal ,female silver sufer and bring this guy back for anything else than iron man.Dr doom was one the ONLY element still of interest and now its DOOM
How bout a doomsday post credit scene of Seth green Howard the duck and Howard the duck from the 80s just sitting at a bar having martinis, while in the background outside the windows is a huge battle going on
10:52 MCU logic already gave us this answer in Multiverse of Madness. If they make X-Men '97 canon and bring them in Secret Wars, the moment they leave their universe, they'll become live action
I firmly believe the animated Xmen will play a pivotal role in Doomsday and Secret War. Wouldn't reboot it otherwise. They don't need to be animated, it'd be off-putting, just bring them into live action